Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
That's based on who voted against Drago and who is in this group. I hesitate to be more specific about which ones I'm leaning more towards.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:45 amtriggered.gifMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:36 pm Epi, Eva, Jack, Nova
^contains scum, maybe even more than one
Why? I townread everyone in this pile except Nova, who I don’t really have a read on.
There was mention of a 3P role in the old thread. I don't recall specific numbers on how many scum.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:45 am One other question, what are we thinking set-up wise in terms of team numbers? I’ve seen references to 8 scum but do we think 1 team? Indies, etc. ?
I mean I’m not calling for her head, just saying that I don’t think the normal logic necessarily applies.Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:36 amI'm assuming that this is still a mafia game, IE mafia have some way to prevent people from talking. Maybe that's selecting people for the new layer, maybe it's kills, IDK, but it remains the case that Lexi and I are in yhe same layer despite my suspicion of her D1 and in Finals she straight up NK'd me even when I was looking horrible just because she thought I'd tunnel her the next day.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:28 amIf Lexi is genuinely frustrated, she’ll post it as either alignment I think?Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 9:39 amYes, but I'd say it's still too early for you to have that kind of hard opinion on me.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:59 am Apparently fights happened, I haven’t read them and probably won’t if we’re being honest, but I will say anyways that everyone should cool their jets and take a deep breath, extended yell fests are not super fun usually. This format and posting restrictions are frustrating but if they’re so inhibiting just follow my lead and only reply to pings and do a semi-random pop in or two. It’s very freeing and sometimes helps you see the game a bit better from the 10,000 foot perspective.
@Evenstar if I said you’re town, would you agree?
Now if you were calling Lexi town I'd agree, because I sussed Lexi multiple timea D1 and I'm still not dead
also I don't think scum lexi frustration-posts like this, she leans back and lets us tear each other apart with a few carefully selected jibes
I actually think you’re easier to TR (based off associations with drago) here than Lexi—we don’t know how much if any control scum had over the division, so you being alive after sussing her D1 isn’t really a point that works either way I think? Not without some assumptions about the setup I’m not really prepared to make at this point in time.
Maybe I'm getting horribly outplayed, but I wanna go easy on Lexi anyway for non-play-related reasons. She doesn't need resolving right now IMO.
the setup is closed, i know nothing more than the flip and my own role.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:45 am One other question, what are we thinking set-up wise in terms of team numbers? I’ve seen references to 8 scum but do we think 1 team? Indies, etc. ?
Why would I talk to pawn when a) I’m already TRing you, b) I don’t need more reasons to, c) I prefer to make my own reads when I feel like I have a good read to make.
Drago asked iaafr if he's 3rd part in one post, i don't remember the answer.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:48 amThere was mention of a 3P role in the old thread. I don't recall specific numbers on how many scum.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:45 am One other question, what are we thinking set-up wise in terms of team numbers? I’ve seen references to 8 scum but do we think 1 team? Indies, etc. ?
Talk to me more about the other people on this list. I've read #45, but would like more details, particularly on Jack.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:46 amThat's based on who voted against Drago and who is in this group. I hesitate to be more specific about which ones I'm leaning more towards.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:45 amtriggered.gifMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:36 pm Epi, Eva, Jack, Nova
^contains scum, maybe even more than one
Why? I townread everyone in this pile except Nova, who I don’t really have a read on.
Because Pawn will tell you I have a hellbus meta and you probably shouldn't be confidently TRing me yet. I'm interested in you having a correct view of the game, not blowing sunshine up your ass.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:52 amWhy would I talk to pawn when a) I’m already TRing you, b) I don’t need more reasons to, c) I prefer to make my own reads when I feel like I have a good read to make.
*hugs*MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:58 am So I'm awake at 2am with a vomiting toddler how bout you guys?
Thanks Mac. I’ve got little to no clue what’s going on so if you’re bad and want to pocket me feel free.
Me bad? No. Never.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:00 pmThanks Mac. I’ve got little to no clue what’s going on so if you’re bad and want to pocket me feel free.
DankeEvenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:59 am*hugs*MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:58 am So I'm awake at 2am with a vomiting toddler how bout you guys?
10 am and avoiding studying for my midterm here
much luck
I guessed 8 because 30/4 = 7.5 and you round up for large games, but that's probably not a unified team. Right now I would be betting ~6 team scum with ~2 independents, given that there were six team members in the movie plus Mal as a 3rd party plus maybe the target as another 3rd party. There could be surprises in there: I for one can't wait for someone to suddenly get hit with a train from out of nowhereColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:45 am One other question, what are we thinking set-up wise in terms of team numbers? I’ve seen references to 8 scum but do we think 1 team? Indies, etc. ?
drago/mac sleaze team 2019?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:02 pmMe bad? No. Never.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:00 pmThanks Mac. I’ve got little to no clue what’s going on so if you’re bad and want to pocket me feel free.
You seem cute though.
I mean it’s not about bussing, it’s about the interaction between you and drago around his shitty joke that doesn’t read as w/w to me.Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:59 amBecause Pawn will tell you I have a hellbus meta and you probably shouldn't be confidently TRing me yet. I'm interested in you having a correct view of the game, not blowing sunshine up your ass.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:52 amWhy would I talk to pawn when a) I’m already TRing you, b) I don’t need more reasons to, c) I prefer to make my own reads when I feel like I have a good read to make.
A unified 8 feels like an awful lot for the Syndicate but it’s been a while since I was in a big game so maybe I am misremembering.Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:03 pmI guessed 8 because 30/4 = 7.5 and you round up for large games, but that's probably not a unified team. Right now I would be betting ~6 team scum with ~2 independents, given that there were six team members in the movie plus Mal as a 3rd party plus maybe the target as another 3rd party. There could be surprises in there: I for one can't wait for someone to suddenly get hit with a train from out of nowhereColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:45 am One other question, what are we thinking set-up wise in terms of team numbers? I’ve seen references to 8 scum but do we think 1 team? Indies, etc. ?
Nah, Mac is just pure dick jokes over sleaze every day of the week.Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:04 pmdrago/mac sleaze team 2019?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:02 pmMe bad? No. Never.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:00 pmThanks Mac. I’ve got little to no clue what’s going on so if you’re bad and want to pocket me feel free.
You seem cute though.
You think Jay invited a bunch of new players for a 30 player game and then killed like 10+ players with no flips on N1?Master Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:29 pmStop doing that thing where you sow chaos please. There's no evidence of another thread, there's certainly no 8-person scum team in here, there certainly are some scum in here, and anyway it doesn't matter because we have a game to play.Evenstar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 7:21 pm ... man, I really wonder what chaos is currently occurring in the other thread
The majority of players just vanished
Did someone die? Multiple someones? Were we announced as having moved or did we just vanish with no explanation?
Are there scum there? Are there scum here? Probably there are scum in both places, but idek what the point of... oh, duh, the voting rules and the power thing, those are relevant. Ok. And the scum are Leo and Co, so... they have to progress through the levels somehow? Did they set this up? Probably there's some limitation on what they can do...
Yeah I got nothing. I super want to see how this shit works behind the scenes.
Given that multiple levels exist and there were three in the movie, I think we can bet that this'll happen again tonight - some of us will move to a new thread, some of us will [whatever happened to the other 13 players]
is there even another thread
there is super probably another thread
that or we're on a ridiculous clock and half of us are dead, but I don't think the GM would do that to us
This is stupid and I should table it for now, I'm just making myself paranoid because "what if we're in here with an 8-man scum team", which... yeah lol not happening
Oof, I hard feel for you here. That's always horrible position to be in. Good luck with it, hopefully you'll ace it!Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:59 am*hugs*MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:58 am So I'm awake at 2am with a vomiting toddler how bout you guys?
10 am and avoiding studying for my midterm here
much luck
His pushes on Epi and Eva seem dishonest to me.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:34 amgot it thanks.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.
Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature
Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo
Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn
Maybe scum
Nanook
Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112
thoughts on Radishes?
So level one. Cool cool.Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:46 amThat's based on who voted against Drago and who is in this group. I hesitate to be more specific about which ones I'm leaning more towards.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 10:45 amtriggered.gifMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:36 pm Epi, Eva, Jack, Nova
^contains scum, maybe even more than one
Why? I townread everyone in this pile except Nova, who I don’t really have a read on.
Drago and I hatched the perfect scheme to be gross pigs and prosper. It was imperfect.Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:04 pmdrago/mac sleaze team 2019?MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:02 pmMe bad? No. Never.ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:00 pmThanks Mac. I’ve got little to no clue what’s going on so if you’re bad and want to pocket me feel free.
You seem cute though.
I am a seasoned vet. She won't keep fluids down though so might have to go to ER soon.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:08 pmOof, I hard feel for you here. That's always horrible position to be in. Good luck with it, hopefully you'll ace it!Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:59 am*hugs*MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:58 am So I'm awake at 2am with a vomiting toddler how bout you guys?
10 am and avoiding studying for my midterm here
much luck
take care of him, that's important rnMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:58 am So I'm awake at 2am with a vomiting toddler how bout you guys?
She's just asleep on me atm so no biggie.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:17 pmtake care of him, that's important rnMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:58 am So I'm awake at 2am with a vomiting toddler how bout you guys?
Oh dear.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:15 pmI am a seasoned vet. She won't keep fluids down though so might have to go to ER soon.Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:08 pmOof, I hard feel for you here. That's always horrible position to be in. Good luck with it, hopefully you'll ace it!Evenstar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:59 am*hugs*MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:58 am So I'm awake at 2am with a vomiting toddler how bout you guys?
10 am and avoiding studying for my midterm here
much luck
when in the game this happened? day one or today? (i know, i didn't catch up yet)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:10 pmHis pushes on Epi and Eva seem dishonest to me.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:34 amgot it thanks.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.
Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature
Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo
Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn
Maybe scum
Nanook
Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112
thoughts on Radishes?
Like about as dishonest as ifaar and 112.
awww <3MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:18 pmShe's just asleep on me atm so no biggie.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:17 pmtake care of him, that's important rnMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:58 am So I'm awake at 2am with a vomiting toddler how bout you guys?
If our votes are too diffuse then scum can literally just stack votes to ML the towniest player. I want to avoid the situation where the unseen votal looks something like like:MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:11 pm Jackofhearts2005 You asked me to name three players. I don't think we should be too liberal with this type of thing. I was thinking (as I was falling asleep ironically) about the mechanics of doing so and think our chances of randomly lynching a scum here are better if the scum don't know who the town are misreading. ie. Our chances are better if the scum stack votes on a player who gets few to no errant townie votes.
Feel free to demonstrate why I'm wrong here.
#readslistsarescummyMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:11 pm @Jackofhearts2005 You asked me to name three players. I don't think we should be too liberal with this type of thing. I was thinking (as I was falling asleep ironically) about the mechanics of doing so and think our chances of randomly lynching a scum here are better if the scum don't know who the town are misreading. ie. Our chances are better if the scum stack votes on a player who gets few to no errant townie votes.
Feel free to demonstrate why I'm wrong here.
- oh, you're betting that 112 is scumMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:28 pm I dunno I tend to think that if it was left unsaid that most or at least a good portion of us would vote along similar lines if twas simply the objective to "vote for whomever you think is the most objectively scummy". If that person happens to be scum then voila.
You’re wrong because if we don’t say where we’re voting we aren’t going to vote together and mafia will vote together regardless. Hidden vote mechanics are very pro mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:11 pm Jackofhearts2005 You asked me to name three players. I don't think we should be too liberal with this type of thing. I was thinking (as I was falling asleep ironically) about the mechanics of doing so and think our chances of randomly lynching a scum here are better if the scum don't know who the town are misreading. ie. Our chances are better if the scum stack votes on a player who gets few to no errant townie votes.
Feel free to demonstrate why I'm wrong here.
Today. I barely remember Radish’s D1.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:20 pmwhen in the game this happened? day one or today? (i know, i didn't catch up yet)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:10 pmHis pushes on Epi and Eva seem dishonest to me.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:34 amgot it thanks.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.
Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature
Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo
Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn
Maybe scum
Nanook
Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112
thoughts on Radishes?
Like about as dishonest as ifaar and 112.
Not convinced.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:57 pmYou’re wrong because if we don’t say where we’re voting we aren’t going to vote together and mafia will vote together regardless. Hidden vote mechanics are very pro mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:11 pm Jackofhearts2005 You asked me to name three players. I don't think we should be too liberal with this type of thing. I was thinking (as I was falling asleep ironically) about the mechanics of doing so and think our chances of randomly lynching a scum here are better if the scum don't know who the town are misreading. ie. Our chances are better if the scum stack votes on a player who gets few to no errant townie votes.
Feel free to demonstrate why I'm wrong here.
Okay but considering a few others said the exact same thing I did, you’re overruled.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:01 pmNot convinced.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:57 pmYou’re wrong because if we don’t say where we’re voting we aren’t going to vote together and mafia will vote together regardless. Hidden vote mechanics are very pro mafia.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:11 pm Jackofhearts2005 You asked me to name three players. I don't think we should be too liberal with this type of thing. I was thinking (as I was falling asleep ironically) about the mechanics of doing so and think our chances of randomly lynching a scum here are better if the scum don't know who the town are misreading. ie. Our chances are better if the scum stack votes on a player who gets few to no errant townie votes.
Feel free to demonstrate why I'm wrong here.
then you can quote and give me details.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:58 pmToday. I barely remember Radish’s D1.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:20 pmwhen in the game this happened? day one or today? (i know, i didn't catch up yet)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:10 pmHis pushes on Epi and Eva seem dishonest to me.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:34 amgot it thanks.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.
Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature
Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo
Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn
Maybe scum
Nanook
Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112
thoughts on Radishes?
Like about as dishonest as ifaar and 112.
I’m going to finish reading the day and then I’ll give you details. Casing people on the first three pages of an 11 page thread is a poor idea. You could easily iso Radish and take the first 8 or so posts to see what I’m talking about.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:03 pmthen you can quote and give me details.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:58 pmToday. I barely remember Radish’s D1.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:20 pmwhen in the game this happened? day one or today? (i know, i didn't catch up yet)Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:10 pmHis pushes on Epi and Eva seem dishonest to me.Michelle wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:34 amgot it thanks.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 11:22 am Here’s where I’m at as of mid page 3. I’ll fill in the rest and move them about as I go. Players are in no particular order with the groups.
Town
Nutella
Mac
Epi
Creature
Maybe town
Benson
Eva
Michelle
Sprityo
Null
Nova
Quin
DF
Juliets
LC
Pawn
Maybe scum
Nanook
Scum vote pool
Radishes
Ifaar
112
thoughts on Radishes?
Like about as dishonest as ifaar and 112.
on D1 i was more focused on the interaction between Radishes and Elephant and i came after reading it with town read of radishes and SR on Elephant.