The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:58 am**

Aight it's time to look at my other games. Will be back later!

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:00 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:50 am
Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:40 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 1:53 am Jesus Christ I have four already

Quick someone make a joke and/or ask me a serious question I can deflect from with an annoying and/or obnoxious retort
I wonder what "four" is in the context

Try hard Joke 1 :

Oh nvm I can't make jokes would borrow one from the Internet later.
Four townreads

It was Hally/arete/tutu/Michelle IIRC

do you remember why for arete?

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:01 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:55 am Posting after uve said ur going to bed is a tried and tested towntell btw yall

Anyone who isnt townreading nanook is missing out

i already was

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:01 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:55 am Posting after uve said ur going to bed is a tried and tested towntell btw yall

Anyone who isnt townreading nanook is missing out

i already was

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:02 am**

also vul obv town

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:02 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:01 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:55 am Posting after uve said ur going to bed is a tried and tested towntell btw yall

Anyone who isnt townreading nanook is missing out
i already was

i know hally cuz ur one of the best mafia players ive seen in my life. one of the cuter ones too

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:09 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 6:41 am Tutuu
Vulgard
Nanook
Hally
Poison
Michelle
Ash

Others (the Others are evil) (or so i hear from this tv show im watchin)

this is a good list so far. still not entirely sold on ash but he’s had good stuff too. just more wary of his scum game

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:13 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:11 am <--- if u scumread this avatar ur a monster

pocketed

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:15 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:28 am tutuu's my first wolf read

now to catch up with other poasters

spicy

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:19 am**

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:28 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 8:25 am villa

Vulgard
Poison Chan (disrespect read)

villa, thin reason (wolves can slip here)

Michelle

tutuu
AshLael

Wdym disrespect read!?? Yo wtf!?!?
Ted I'll appear in your nightmare I swear!

lmao i love you

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:22 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:02 am
Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:01 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 5:55 am Posting after uve said ur going to bed is a tried and tested towntell btw yall

Anyone who isnt townreading nanook is missing out
i already was
i know hally cuz ur one of the best mafia players ive seen in my life. one of the cuter ones too

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:31 am**

town:
nook
tutuu
vul
poison
michelle

could be town but not trusting yet:

ted
ash

need more:
112
arete

not pictured:
wilgy
dunya
lc
tony
trip

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:33 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:31 am need more:
112
arete

out of these i feel better about 112 than arete. think he was townier in his brief time here than arete just for how he jumped on me for my entrance

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:37 am**

Talk to me about tutuu and Nanook, Hally. Why are they town?

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:44 am**

I have the last post in page 4 and i am still at work, when on Earth i will catch up?

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:44 am**

112 and Michelle have not done enough for me to have a read on them.

I have a theory that Ash could be mafia. There's something about his play I just don't like, and it keeps on nagging at me. He seems a little too... agreeable, if that makes sense. His NANOOK scumread surprised me, because Ash had never pushed NANOOK prior to making that read, and he has not pushed NANOOK since then, as far as I can tell. It is not mafia indicative, but it is something I am keeping in mind.

I'm currently conflicted on tutuu. On the one hand, I think my reasons for suspecting her are solid. On the other hand, she is still continuing a very bizarre play pattern I scumread her for (and I was not the only one!), she has not changed her play whatsoever to appeal to me, nor has she done anything beyond what I've already said that came across as scummy to me. I'm starting to wonder if I'm scumreading her personality instead of her actual play.

Hally's re-entrance into the thread did not ping me either way. The fact I'm called obvious town by Hally seems... weirdly dismissive, just like the way I felt when tutuu responded to me in that one post.

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:45 am**

i think 112 went with she/her pronouns but dunno, no idea

I am gonna sheep hally cuz (no offense to the others!) i think shes the best player on this table from my own personal experience (idc about MU) and im in a subservient mood

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:46 am**

I don't really understand the ted townreads. His posts have not pinged me as town whatsoever.
In general, I don't really understand how tutuu gets any of her reads, and the way she reacts to pressure has been less than stellar. The only thing that is towny about her from my perspective is how much she insists upon keeping up this bizarre play pattern.

I don't know 112's pronouns, so feel free to correct me. I know Hally's a they, though.

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:48 am**

If u ever figure out how i get my reads Freckles let me know cuz honestly i've no clue either

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:50 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:45 am i think 112 went with she/her pronouns but dunno, no idea

I am gonna sheep hally cuz (no offense to the others!) i think shes the best player on this table from my own personal experience (idc about MU) and im in a subservient mood

none taken

but be sure she’s a villa before doing it

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:50 am**

I just don't get it, tutuu. You have five (?) town and the majority of that list has just been people who agreed with you and/or called you town. The only people you have shown hostility toward have been the people who pushed on you and/or called you mafia, and yet you don't even have a mafia list despite the kneejerk OMGUS you've been displaying. Do you really think that everyone who's friendly with you has to be town? Because that's the impression I get from your read progression and your list of townreads in general.

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:51 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:50 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:45 am i think 112 went with she/her pronouns but dunno, no idea

I am gonna sheep hally cuz (no offense to the others!) i think shes the best player on this table from my own personal experience (idc about MU) and im in a subservient mood
none taken

but be sure she’s a villa before doing it

oh right hally's a they whoops. its hard to not call them a she with all these blushing emojis

i think they're villa yea!!!

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:52 am**

Ash Lael wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:37 am Talk to me about tutuu and Nanook, Hally. Why are they town?

it’s hard to point to specific things because it’s more a general impression but i get the sense they’re genuinely solving in a way that’s consistent with their town selves as i know them

ig to be more specific, for tutuu what i can say beyond just “vibes” is that i think her tr on me for using a spoiler in one of my posts is the kind of wacky read that scum just don’t think to fake usually but a villager will actually have thoughts like that. i thought the same about how she responded to vul’s push by saying he was doubting it to pocket her or something. it was again kinda out there and i don’t think it’s actually what vul was doing but i think it’s a towny reaction for tutuu to have because again, scum don’t often think to fake those kinds of micro reads especially under pressure

for nook, it really is more just a general vibe that he actually cares. like i kinda doubt scum!nook would write those posts about just having fun and not giving reads unless he wants to and then proceed to be highly involved and give lots of reads early on. it’s kinda like tutuus “says he’s going to bed but stays to post” read. it’s like he just can’t help himself but be here. and nothing he’s done while here has struck me as fake given what i know of him

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:52 am**

Tutuu, is there a single mafia member in this game? Hally briefly explained their lack of mafia reads (what I think about the explanation is another thing entirely), but I don't recall you ever doing that.

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:55 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:50 am I just don't get it, tutuu. You have five (?) town and the majority of that list has just been people who agreed with you and/or called you town. The only people you have shown hostility toward have been the people who pushed on you and/or called you mafia, and yet you don't even have a mafia list despite the kneejerk OMGUS you've been displaying. Do you really think that everyone who's friendly with you has to be town? Because that's the impression I get from your read progression and your list of townreads in general.

none of this is true lol

i am not only townreading ppl who r my friends and townread me

i have multiple times put u as my top townread

i also though ash was town despite him scumreading me

i also have ted as own despite him scumreading me

i dont have a kneeerk OMGUS in the sense of "if u scumread me ur mafia"

i have a knee jerk reaction to poke fun at ppl scumreading me for what i perceive to be silly reasons (since i already knwo the asnwer to my alignment)

if it helps i dont do it only for me, i do this to ppl who suspect my strongest townreads too. i poked a little fun at ash for scumreading nanook, and often times in past games id say stuff like that to ppl who scumread my townreads

me having a playstyle that ends up with a ton of townread and no scumreads is a separate thing, it isnt rly connecetd to how im reactional. if u skim my past games u will see i always end up with only townreads and no scumreads, despite nobody pushing me

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:56 am**

When dunya starts posting make sure to let her know I randed villager and as of this post nobody has “bullied” me

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:56 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:44 am 112 and Michelle have not done enough for me to have a read on them.

I have a theory that Ash could be mafia. There's something about his play I just don't like, and it keeps on nagging at me. He seems a little too... agreeable, if that makes sense. His NANOOK scumread surprised me, because Ash had never pushed NANOOK prior to making that read, and he has not pushed NANOOK since then, as far as I can tell. It is not mafia indicative, but it is something I am keeping in mind.

I'm currently conflicted on tutuu. On the one hand, I think my reasons for suspecting her are solid. On the other hand, she is still continuing a very bizarre play pattern I scumread her for (and I was not the only one!), she has not changed her play whatsoever to appeal to me, nor has she done anything beyond what I've already said that came across as scummy to me. I'm starting to wonder if I'm scumreading her personality instead of her actual play.

Hally's re-entrance into the thread did not ping me either way. The fact I'm called obvious town by Hally seems... weirdly dismissive, just like the way I felt when tutuu responded to me in that one post.

i wouldn’t say i was being dismissive. idk you just seem like such an obvious villager to me that i see no reason to give any more thought to it at this point in time

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:57 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:44 am 112 and Michelle have not done enough for me to have a read on them.

I have a theory that Ash could be mafia. There's something about his play I just don't like, and it keeps on nagging at me. He seems a little too... agreeable, if that makes sense. His NANOOK scumread surprised me, because Ash had never pushed NANOOK prior to making that read, and he has not pushed NANOOK since then, as far as I can tell. It is not mafia indicative, but it is something I am keeping in mind.

I'm currently conflicted on tutuu. On the one hand, I think my reasons for suspecting her are solid. On the other hand, she is still continuing a very bizarre play pattern I scumread her for (and I was not the only one!), she has not changed her play whatsoever to appeal to me, nor has she done anything beyond what I've already said that came across as scummy to me. I'm starting to wonder if I'm scumreading her personality instead of her actual play.

Hally's re-entrance into the thread did not ping me either way. The fact I'm called obvious town by Hally seems... weirdly dismissive, just like the way I felt when tutuu responded to me in that one post.

First time I’ve been accused of being too agreeable, lol.

I’m trying to avoid getting myself too dug in on any one read or any one player too early this game, when we still have half a dozen players who haven’t posted and another couple who haven’t done anything very significant.

You might not have noticed but I actually started scumreading Nanook very early. He pre-announced that he was going to be using a different play style in a way that looked like asking for permission. Like I’m playing less aggressive than I normally do, but I didn’t feel the need to warn everybody about it.

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:57 am**

There are three main things that give me pause about tutuu being mafia.

+ Consistently playing the way she does despite all the pressure and scumreads she has been receiving.
+ The existence of some unique thoughts which looked complex and miscellaneous, and thus more likely to come from town rather than mafia.
+ The fact NANOOK claimed that "tutuu was either town or perfectly replicating her town game." Considering tutuu has allegedly not randed mafia for so long that she cannot remember her last mafia rand, this just might be the most important reason tutuu's town. It would be difficult to replicate your town game near-perfectly after such a long time of not randing scum.

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:57 am**

Tutuu your read on me was horrible but I think I can recover from it

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:58 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:56 am When dunya starts posting make sure to let her know I randed villager and as of this post nobody has “bullied” me

looool did she express concern as a mod on duty that u felt bullied and asked u to keep talking to her to work out the problems?

awww

adorable ^^

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:58 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:56 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:44 am 112 and Michelle have not done enough for me to have a read on them.

I have a theory that Ash could be mafia. There's something about his play I just don't like, and it keeps on nagging at me. He seems a little too... agreeable, if that makes sense. His NANOOK scumread surprised me, because Ash had never pushed NANOOK prior to making that read, and he has not pushed NANOOK since then, as far as I can tell. It is not mafia indicative, but it is something I am keeping in mind.

I'm currently conflicted on tutuu. On the one hand, I think my reasons for suspecting her are solid. On the other hand, she is still continuing a very bizarre play pattern I scumread her for (and I was not the only one!), she has not changed her play whatsoever to appeal to me, nor has she done anything beyond what I've already said that came across as scummy to me. I'm starting to wonder if I'm scumreading her personality instead of her actual play.

Hally's re-entrance into the thread did not ping me either way. The fact I'm called obvious town by Hally seems... weirdly dismissive, just like the way I felt when tutuu responded to me in that one post.
i wouldn’t say i was being dismissive. idk you just seem like such an obvious villager to me that i see no reason to give any more thought to it at this point in time

The way I interpreted your post was "alright, I accept you as town, I am not going to bother solving you for the rest of the game." And it felt... cheap.

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:59 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:45 am i think 112 went with she/her pronouns but dunno, no idea

I am gonna sheep hally cuz (no offense to the others!) i think shes the best player on this table from my own personal experience (idc about MU) and im in a subservient mood

112’s profile said he/his but if that’s out of date feel free to correct me 112

and lol pls no, i don’t wanna have that kind of responsibility. like im aware i may be perceived as one of the stronger players in the game but that doesn’t mean everyone should just follow me. i don’t think that’s healthy. everyone should feel free to be their own leader of sorts. its a team effort

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:59 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:58 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:56 am When dunya starts posting make sure to let her know I randed villager and as of this post nobody has “bullied” me
looool did she express concern as a mod on duty that u felt bullied and asked u to keep talking to her to work out the problems?

awww

adorable ^^

Bullied as in I am not being scum read or threatened to be voted

It’s in commas

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:00 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:57 am Tutuu your read on me was horrible but I think I can recover from it

ted i am not sure if u are reading my posts

I DID NOT HAVE A READ ON YOU

wtf!!!

i said wanted to make a joke about how ted is scumreading me, he's wrong, he might be town lol. it was 10% real read, 10% me wanting to make a joke, 80% just me posting whats on my mind without putting much thought about it ,as i usually do

THEN i rememberd last game where i wrongly townread u for the same stuff. "ted is town cuz hes wrongly pushing macdougall"

and thats it. i rescinded the TOWNREAD, i didnt CHANGE it to a SCUMREAD

wtf

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:01 am**

That exchange / thought was still pretty horrible

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:01 am**

I'm starting to come around on tutuu, and growing to accept the fact we simply approach the game in two completely different ways.

Ted's posts, by comparison, do not inspire much confidence in me.

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:01 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:46 am I don't really understand the ted townreads. His posts have not pinged me as town whatsoever.
In general, I don't really understand how tutuu gets any of her reads, and the way she reacts to pressure has been less than stellar. The only thing that is towny about her from my perspective is how much she insists upon keeping up this bizarre play pattern.

I don't know 112's pronouns, so feel free to correct me. I know Hally's a they, though.

the thing that could potentially be towny about ted is that he actually looks worse than he does as scum. scum!ted is capable of crafting a townier image but here he’s more chill, which may indicate he isn’t trying to be tr

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:02 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:52 am
Ash Lael wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:37 am Talk to me about tutuu and Nanook, Hally. Why are they town?
it’s hard to point to specific things because it’s more a general impression but i get the sense they’re genuinely solving in a way that’s consistent with their town selves as i know them

ig to be more specific, for tutuu what i can say beyond just “vibes” is that i think her tr on me for using a spoiler in one of my posts is the kind of wacky read that scum just don’t think to fake usually but a villager will actually have thoughts like that. i thought the same about how she responded to vul’s push by saying he was doubting it to pocket her or something. it was again kinda out there and i don’t think it’s actually what vul was doing but i think it’s a towny reaction for tutuu to have because again, scum don’t often think to fake those kinds of micro reads especially under pressure

for nook, it really is more just a general vibe that he actually cares. like i kinda doubt scum!nook would write those posts about just having fun and not giving reads unless he wants to and then proceed to be highly involved and give lots of reads early on. it’s kinda like tutuus “says he’s going to bed but stays to post” read. it’s like he just can’t help himself but be here. and nothing he’s done while here has struck me as fake given what i know of him

How well do you know them, and how confident are you? Because this is my first game with either.

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:02 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:50 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:45 am i think 112 went with she/her pronouns but dunno, no idea

I am gonna sheep hally cuz (no offense to the others!) i think shes the best player on this table from my own personal experience (idc about MU) and im in a subservient mood
none taken

but be sure she’s a villa before doing it

what is my alignment ted?

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:02 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:01 am That exchange / thought was still pretty horrible

your read that my avi change was scum motivated and i was >rand scum for it was 10 times better, i hope i can learn how to utilize such great reads myself in the future!!!

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:03 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:51 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:50 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:45 am i think 112 went with she/her pronouns but dunno, no idea

I am gonna sheep hally cuz (no offense to the others!) i think shes the best player on this table from my own personal experience (idc about MU) and im in a subservient mood
none taken

but be sure she’s a villa before doing it
oh right hally's a they whoops. its hard to not call them a she with all these blushing emojis

i think they're villa yea!!!

im fine with she/hers pronouns too

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:03 am**

I also think NANOOK is more likely to be town, unless he is exactly w/w with tutuu. The way he cleared her felt natural. The clear was also very unlikely to come from mafia, because tutuu was not considered "clear"; there were still several players suspecting her.

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:03 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:01 am I'm starting to come around on tutuu, and growing to accept the fact we simply approach the game in two completely different ways.

Ted's posts, by comparison, do not inspire much confidence in me.

I am slightly irked by the fact that you said I claimed wolf when I didn’t

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:04 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:02 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:01 am That exchange / thought was still pretty horrible
your read that my avi change was scum motivated and i was >rand scum for it was 10 times better, i hope i can learn how to utilize such great reads myself in the future!!!

I was being sarcastic

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:04 am**

Most of the reason I'm starting to scumread Ash is because his posts look designed to be good. There's nothing offensive about any of them, few controversial things, nothing really out of place or inconsistent. It's too perfect.

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:04 am**

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:02 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:50 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:45 am i think 112 went with she/her pronouns but dunno, no idea

I am gonna sheep hally cuz (no offense to the others!) i think shes the best player on this table from my own personal experience (idc about MU) and im in a subservient mood
none taken

but be sure she’s a villa before doing it
what is my alignment ted?

Idk I’m not bothering atm

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:05 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 9:57 am There are three main things that give me pause about tutuu being mafia.

+ Consistently playing the way she does despite all the pressure and scumreads she has been receiving.
+ The existence of some unique thoughts which looked complex and miscellaneous, and thus more likely to come from town rather than mafia.
+ The fact NANOOK claimed that "tutuu was either town or perfectly replicating her town game." Considering tutuu has allegedly not randed mafia for so long that she cannot remember her last mafia rand, this just might be the most important reason tutuu's town. It would be difficult to replicate your town game near-perfectly after such a long time of not randing scum.

bolded is exactly what i was saying in my longer post just now

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:05 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:04 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:02 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:01 am That exchange / thought was still pretty horrible
your read that my avi change was scum motivated and i was >rand scum for it was 10 times better, i hope i can learn how to utilize such great reads myself in the future!!!
I was being sarcastic

how was i supposed to pick up on it ???? lol that was insanely hard to pick up on that u werent serious there imo

Posted: **Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:07 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 06, 2020 11:05 pm Ok so after I made the woofie post now I’m going to make an even woofier now

Expect low activity and like no live interaction at all

Ted, this post is pretty much indirect openwolfing. "Hello, I am scummy and I am going to continue being underwhelming, kill me now."

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