The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 1:46 pm**

ebwop to my list post- Golden's posts starting at 480 to 486, felt like classic Town Golden to me. I respect whenever a player decides to change their meta, Idk if that sounds right, I still say playstyle. But I needed to see that flash of Old Golden to feel the town coming through.

I looked up Soneji, They only made 2 posts, so they go in with the group of players I wish to hear something from.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:02 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:28 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:31 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:08 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:03 pm And at the time, there were 2 votes on you? Golden and scotty?
Yes, 2 votes and a few others casting suspicion. Wolves take lazy cheapshots in those situations. SVS fits that archetype perfectly.
Would you have thought svs more or less wolfy if she had voted for you at the same time?
I don't know. It would've depended on how they voted.

Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:08 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:00 am Golden seems inordinately concerned w/ my sus on their slot...noted

Yup that's definitely it.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:13 pm**

I'm quite happy with my vote for marmot right now. The way he reacted to it is not in keeping with what I'd expect from town marmot.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:15 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:52 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:49 am Sabi's a wolf.

SVS isn't.

Scotty still like 69% wolf.
Talk to me about Sabi
This:

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:24 am Checking in before work

This is the weirdest and quietest D1 ever esp for 18er
is a wolf.

Yeah, I didn't like that either...I'm never a fan of "oh jeepers, this game blahblahblah" kinda stuff

I'm more curious if you have a specific Sabi reason, not something that would apply to any player posting like that

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:16 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:13 pm I'm quite happy with my vote for marmot right now. The way he reacted to it is not in keeping with what I'd expect from town marmot.

How would you expect Town Marmot to react? How does that contrast with the way he has reacted?

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:17 pm**

Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:04 am Checking in, shaking off the rust.

How's the rust? Have you tried CLR?

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:20 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:16 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:13 pm I'm quite happy with my vote for marmot right now. The way he reacted to it is not in keeping with what I'd expect from town marmot.
How would you expect Town Marmot to react? How does that contrast with the way he has reacted?

Not particularly react to me having voted for him... especially before finding the vote itself/reading the thread.
Certainly not with a post that says 'golden has posted 75 times and his vote is on someone who hasn't posted yet'.

He was inordinately concerned about making me look bad for what was (know to him or not) a joke vote that he would ordinarily make himself.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:21 pm**

I think perhaps the most interesting thing is that when he got to my vote and saw it was essentially a joke vote he joined in on the joke and self-voted, but it hasn't changed his relative stiffness around me. I perceive a missing lightness.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:36 pm**

i’ll do some iso’s and make a readslist + further analysis after school

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:36 pm**

sorry for leaving for the night

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:40 pm**

lucy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:36 pm sorry for leaving for the night

Burnout is a real thing. Part of why I’m changing my meta.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:41 pm**

I don’t think a vote for Lucy is the way to go today.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:51 pm**

I really hate Seanzie reaction and push on me because

1) he's familar enough with me

2) he knows I'm used to more active games

3) I don't think he actually believes his push on me.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:58 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:52 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:49 am Sabi's a wolf.

SVS isn't.

Scotty still like 69% wolf.
Talk to me about Sabi
This:

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:24 am Checking in before work

This is the weirdest and quietest D1 ever esp for 18er
is a wolf.
Yeah, I didn't like that either...I'm never a fan of "oh jeepers, this game blahblahblah" kinda stuff

I'm more curious if you have a specific Sabi reason, not something that would apply to any player posting like that

@falcon45a did I not do the same thing during Anni g2 for D1?

Is this behavior normal or abnormal for me?

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:58 pm**

Ugh I'm going back to work. I finished up orientation

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:02 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:28 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:31 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:08 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:03 pm And at the time, there were 2 votes on you? Golden and scotty?
Yes, 2 votes and a few others casting suspicion. Wolves take lazy cheapshots in those situations. SVS fits that archetype perfectly.
Would you have thought svs more or less wolfy if she had voted for you at the same time?
I don't know. It would've depended on how they voted.
Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.

Explain.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:04 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:52 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:49 am Sabi's a wolf.

SVS isn't.

Scotty still like 69% wolf.
Talk to me about Sabi
This:

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:24 am Checking in before work

This is the weirdest and quietest D1 ever esp for 18er
is a wolf.
Yeah, I didn't like that either...I'm never a fan of "oh jeepers, this game blahblahblah" kinda stuff

I'm more curious if you have a specific Sabi reason, not something that would apply to any player posting like that

No.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:05 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:51 pm I really hate Seanzie reaction and push on me because

1) he's familar enough with me

2) he knows I'm used to more active games

3) I don't think he actually believes his push on me.

Do you think my push on you makes me a wolf?

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:15 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:05 pm
Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:51 pm I really hate Seanzie reaction and push on me because

1) he's familar enough with me

2) he knows I'm used to more active games

3) I don't think he actually believes his push on me.
Do you think my push on you makes me a wolf?

Yes because town Sean would not be this limp and half ass with his push on me.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:24 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:02 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:28 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:31 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:08 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:03 pm And at the time, there were 2 votes on you? Golden and scotty?
Yes, 2 votes and a few others casting suspicion. Wolves take lazy cheapshots in those situations. SVS fits that archetype perfectly.
Would you have thought svs more or less wolfy if she had voted for you at the same time?
I don't know. It would've depended on how they voted.
Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.
Explain.

I think the Sean v svs issue was somewhat of a misunderstanding. Do you two play together often or ever? I understood svs's side of it (that is why didn't specifically ask you svs) but I've known her forever and a day at this point and I more-or-less less speak her language. I follow the logic of her argument, and not so much Sean's. That's not to say I think he is definitely lying. But that either he doesn't understand her particular playstyle OR he os fabricating his defense and then fabricating an offense against her. I definitely do not buy that she'd use a stereotypical baddie archetype on day 1.

My eye is more on Sean from this exchange. Not to mention the (unexplained? I'd have to go back and look) sudden switcheroo to svs is town? And why Sabi, is that just tunneling like you said you'd do when the game started. Yea, I think I just semi convinced myself.

None of this when looked at as a complete picture screams town to me. I'm putting my vote here, at least for now.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:27 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:02 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:28 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:31 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:08 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:03 pm And at the time, there were 2 votes on you? Golden and scotty?
Yes, 2 votes and a few others casting suspicion. Wolves take lazy cheapshots in those situations. SVS fits that archetype perfectly.
Would you have thought svs more or less wolfy if she had voted for you at the same time?
I don't know. It would've depended on how they voted.
Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.
Explain.

Your explanation for why SVS fits as mafia is something I feel like you only say if you believe it... it's a tightrope to accuse someone of trying to elim you, when they literally voted for someone who was voting for you BECAUSE of their vote for you. It took me several passes to actually understand your point, because it was convoluted. But when I understood it, I saw the core 'gut' feels of 'I think SVS doesn't care whether I'm elimmed' and I got it. And I liked your follow up answer too.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:27 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:51 pm I really hate Seanzie reaction and push on me because

1) he's familar enough with me

2) he knows I'm used to more active games

3) I don't think he actually believes his push on me.

Anyone out there who knows these 2 players better than I do who can weigh in on Sabi's statements?

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:29 pm**

Also I do like it when someone asks me to explain a town read on them lol. I'm not sure an under pressure mafia asks me to explain why I town read them.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:30 pm**

Could be wrong, but Lucy and Sean are two of my very few town reads and I don't like the way this vote is shaping up for now.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:32 pm**

Hehehehehe

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:33 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:30 pm Could be wrong, but Lucy and Sean are two of my very few town reads and I don't like the way this vote is shaping up for now.

I don't have any reason to suspect Lucy, but not so crazy about Sean's play on day 1. We just posted 2 very different interpretations of that Sean v svs dayonegate. Any thoughts on my post?

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:33 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:32 pm Hehehehehe

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I am cry laughing at this post.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:34 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:32 pm Hehehehehe

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Are we laughing in place of licking this game? You continue to be an enigma, Doctor Wilgy.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:34 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:33 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:32 pm Hehehehehe

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
I am cry laughing at this post.

Me too, and I'm not even sure why.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:35 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:33 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:30 pm Could be wrong, but Lucy and Sean are two of my very few town reads and I don't like the way this vote is shaping up for now.
I don't have any reason to suspect Lucy, but not so crazy about Sean's play on day 1. We just posted 2 very different interpretations of that Sean v svs dayonegate. Any thoughts on my post?

I agree that Sean's logic was hard to follow. Part of why I think it's not mafia, that's an awfully convoluted fake suspicion. I took some time trying to follow it, and once I followed it, I understood it on a gut level.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:36 pm**

I don't think Sean is right about SVS. Even if SVS is bad I don't think Sean's reason for why is right. I just get it on a deep level. Perhaps it's the vibing of someone who has spent many games tunnelling SVS for not getting her vibe/playstyle.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:38 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:35 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:33 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:30 pm Could be wrong, but Lucy and Sean are two of my very few town reads and I don't like the way this vote is shaping up for now.
I don't have any reason to suspect Lucy, but not so crazy about Sean's play on day 1. We just posted 2 very different interpretations of that Sean v svs dayonegate. Any thoughts on my post?
I agree that Sean's logic was hard to follow. Part of why I think it's not mafia, that's an awfully convoluted fake suspicion. I took some time trying to follow it, and once I followed it, I understood it on a gut level.

I understand it now, on an intellectual level...not gut. My gut feels the opposite. I'm not sure the actual suspicion was all that convoluted, just the explanation of it was.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:59 pm**

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:15 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:52 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 10:49 am Sabi's a wolf.

SVS isn't.

Scotty still like 69% wolf.
Talk to me about Sabi
This:

Sabiplz wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 9:24 am Checking in before work

This is the weirdest and quietest D1 ever esp for 18er
is a wolf.
Yeah, I didn't like that either...I'm never a fan of "oh jeepers, this game blahblahblah" kinda stuff

I'm more curious if you have a specific Sabi reason, not something that would apply to any player posting like that
@falcon45a did I not do the same thing during Anni g2 for D1?

Is this behavior normal or abnormal for me?

Yes you did, and that's why I'm curious if he has a read that's more specific to your playstyle

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:00 pm**

[VOTE: soneji] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:01 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:02 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:28 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:31 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:08 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:03 pm And at the time, there were 2 votes on you? Golden and scotty?
Yes, 2 votes and a few others casting suspicion. Wolves take lazy cheapshots in those situations. SVS fits that archetype perfectly.
Would you have thought svs more or less wolfy if she had voted for you at the same time?
I don't know. It would've depended on how they voted.
Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.
Explain.
I think the Sean v svs issue was somewhat of a misunderstanding. Do you two play together often or ever? I understood svs's side of it (that is why didn't specifically ask you svs) but I've known her forever and a day at this point and I more-or-less less speak her language. I follow the logic of her argument, and not so much Sean's. That's not to say I think he is definitely lying. But that either he doesn't understand her particular playstyle OR he os fabricating his defense and then fabricating an offense against her. I definitely do not buy that she'd use a stereotypical baddie archetype on day 1.

My eye is more on Sean from this exchange. Not to mention the (unexplained? I'd have to go back and look) sudden switcheroo to svs is town? And why Sabi, is that just tunneling like you said you'd do when the game started. Yea, I think I just semi convinced myself.

None of this when looked at as a complete picture screams town to me. I'm putting my vote here, at least for now.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I agree. looking back at old posts, I think it’s a little weird how Sean immediately switches blame on a dime like that. Seems suspicious.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:02 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:17 pm
Soneji wrote: ↑Sun Nov 27, 2022 12:04 am Checking in, shaking off the rust.
How's the rust? Have you tried CLR?

Laughed out loud at work.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:06 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:30 pm Could be wrong, but Lucy and Sean are two of my very few town reads and I don't like the way this vote is shaping up for now.

Can you give me a good reason for trying to limit suspicion to a small group of people for non thread reasons?

I can’t find a good civ reason for that focus on Lucy’s part, and her constant attempts to bring discussion back to a non thread related coincidence.

How is this one of your towniest reads?

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:08 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:32 pm Hehehehehe

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Tell me more.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:08 pm**

Ebwop, the whole thing seems opportunistic in the extreme.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:09 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:02 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:28 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:31 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:08 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:03 pm And at the time, there were 2 votes on you? Golden and scotty?
Yes, 2 votes and a few others casting suspicion. Wolves take lazy cheapshots in those situations. SVS fits that archetype perfectly.
Would you have thought svs more or less wolfy if she had voted for you at the same time?
I don't know. It would've depended on how they voted.
Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.
Explain.
I think the Sean v svs issue was somewhat of a misunderstanding. Do you two play together often or ever? I understood svs's side of it (that is why didn't specifically ask you svs) but I've known her forever and a day at this point and I more-or-less less speak her language. I follow the logic of her argument, and not so much Sean's. That's not to say I think he is definitely lying. But that either he doesn't understand her particular playstyle OR he os fabricating his defense and then fabricating an offense against her. I definitely do not buy that she'd use a stereotypical baddie archetype on day 1.

My eye is more on Sean from this exchange. Not to mention the (unexplained? I'd have to go back and look) sudden switcheroo to svs is town? And why Sabi, is that just tunneling like you said you'd do when the game started. Yea, I think I just semi convinced myself.

None of this when looked at as a complete picture screams town to me. I'm putting my vote here, at least for now.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

your loss.

Yes, it was unexplained.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:10 pm**

jack shepherd wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:01 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:02 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:28 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:31 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:08 pm

Yes, 2 votes and a few others casting suspicion. Wolves take lazy cheapshots in those situations. SVS fits that archetype perfectly.
Would you have thought svs more or less wolfy if she had voted for you at the same time?
I don't know. It would've depended on how they voted.
Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.
Explain.
I think the Sean v svs issue was somewhat of a misunderstanding. Do you two play together often or ever? I understood svs's side of it (that is why didn't specifically ask you svs) but I've known her forever and a day at this point and I more-or-less less speak her language. I follow the logic of her argument, and not so much Sean's. That's not to say I think he is definitely lying. But that either he doesn't understand her particular playstyle OR he os fabricating his defense and then fabricating an offense against her. I definitely do not buy that she'd use a stereotypical baddie archetype on day 1.

My eye is more on Sean from this exchange. Not to mention the (unexplained? I'd have to go back and look) sudden switcheroo to svs is town? And why Sabi, is that just tunneling like you said you'd do when the game started. Yea, I think I just semi convinced myself.

None of this when looked at as a complete picture screams town to me. I'm putting my vote here, at least for now.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

I agree. looking back at old posts, I think it’s a little weird how Sean immediately switches blame on a dime like that. Seems suspicious.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

You like two games deep, right?

If true, you're excused.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:11 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:09 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:02 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:28 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:31 am
Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:08 pm

Yes, 2 votes and a few others casting suspicion. Wolves take lazy cheapshots in those situations. SVS fits that archetype perfectly.
Would you have thought svs more or less wolfy if she had voted for you at the same time?
I don't know. It would've depended on how they voted.
Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.
Explain.
I think the Sean v svs issue was somewhat of a misunderstanding. Do you two play together often or ever? I understood svs's side of it (that is why didn't specifically ask you svs) but I've known her forever and a day at this point and I more-or-less less speak her language. I follow the logic of her argument, and not so much Sean's. That's not to say I think he is definitely lying. But that either he doesn't understand her particular playstyle OR he os fabricating his defense and then fabricating an offense against her. I definitely do not buy that she'd use a stereotypical baddie archetype on day 1.

My eye is more on Sean from this exchange. Not to mention the (unexplained? I'd have to go back and look) sudden switcheroo to svs is town? And why Sabi, is that just tunneling like you said you'd do when the game started. Yea, I think I just semi convinced myself.

None of this when looked at as a complete picture screams town to me. I'm putting my vote here, at least for now.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
your loss.

Yes, it was unexplained.

And you don't care to elaborate?

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:11 pm**

S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:06 pm I can’t find a good civ reason for that focus on Lucy’s part, and her constant attempts to bring discussion back to a non thread related coincidence.

As we've previously discussed, I don't agree with your take on Lucy in the thread.

And I think even if you do think she had inordinate focus on those three people, this framing of it is over-egging it substantially. Lucy did not make 'constant attempts to bring discussion back to a non thread related coincidence'.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:13 pm**

@Golden what way are y9u leaning on me and the two spawn?

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:16 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:13 pm @Golden what way are y9u leaning on me and the two spawn?

Most likely town to least likely town

Kate
Jack
Dennis

But none of those reads are particularly strong yet. I'll be interested to see whether today's outcome gives insight.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:17 pm**

Also all three of you are in 'town range' for me... Dennis is just more 'autumn grass' than 'broccoli'

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:18 pm**

Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:11 pm
S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:06 pm I can’t find a good civ reason for that focus on Lucy’s part, and her constant attempts to bring discussion back to a non thread related coincidence.
As we've previously discussed, I don't agree with your take on Lucy in the thread.

And I think even if you do think she had inordinate focus on those three people, this framing of it is over-egging it substantially. Lucy did not make 'constant attempts to bring discussion back to a non thread related coincidence'.

Hard disagree. Once she realized these were teenagers, and the kids of another player, pretty much every one of her posts were about them.

But you didn’t tell me why your town read is so strong. What are you seeing that I’m not?

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:19 pm**

Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:11 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:09 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:02 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:28 am
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 12:31 am

Would you have thought svs more or less wolfy if she had voted for you at the same time?
I don't know. It would've depended on how they voted.
Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.
Explain.
I think the Sean v svs issue was somewhat of a misunderstanding. Do you two play together often or ever? I understood svs's side of it (that is why didn't specifically ask you svs) but I've known her forever and a day at this point and I more-or-less less speak her language. I follow the logic of her argument, and not so much Sean's. That's not to say I think he is definitely lying. But that either he doesn't understand her particular playstyle OR he os fabricating his defense and then fabricating an offense against her. I definitely do not buy that she'd use a stereotypical baddie archetype on day 1.

My eye is more on Sean from this exchange. Not to mention the (unexplained? I'd have to go back and look) sudden switcheroo to svs is town? And why Sabi, is that just tunneling like you said you'd do when the game started. Yea, I think I just semi convinced myself.

None of this when looked at as a complete picture screams town to me. I'm putting my vote here, at least for now.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
your loss.

Yes, it was unexplained.
And you don't care to elaborate?

I changed my mind. Decided what I was seeing was not as significant as I thought, and let other people's opinions persuade me. I don't really have anything to add, aside from the fact that my feelings changed.

Posted: **Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:21 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:19 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:11 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 4:09 pm
Kate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:24 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 3:02 pm
Golden wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 2:02 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Nov 29, 2022 7:28 am

I don't know. It would've depended on how they voted.
Sean's approach to SVS gives me town vibes.
Explain.
I think the Sean v svs issue was somewhat of a misunderstanding. Do you two play together often or ever? I understood svs's side of it (that is why didn't specifically ask you svs) but I've known her forever and a day at this point and I more-or-less less speak her language. I follow the logic of her argument, and not so much Sean's. That's not to say I think he is definitely lying. But that either he doesn't understand her particular playstyle OR he os fabricating his defense and then fabricating an offense against her. I definitely do not buy that she'd use a stereotypical baddie archetype on day 1.

My eye is more on Sean from this exchange. Not to mention the (unexplained? I'd have to go back and look) sudden switcheroo to svs is town? And why Sabi, is that just tunneling like you said you'd do when the game started. Yea, I think I just semi convinced myself.

None of this when looked at as a complete picture screams town to me. I'm putting my vote here, at least for now.

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine
your loss.

Yes, it was unexplained.
And you don't care to elaborate?
I changed my mind. Decided what I was seeing was not as significant as I thought, and let other people's opinions persuade me. I don't really have anything to add, aside from the fact that my feelings changed.

Ok TY.

The Syndicate

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