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Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:42 pm
by Kylemii
what happens if a misdirector targets someone who didn't choose to target anyone, nothing right? or would their target be chosen randomly?

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:54 pm
by sprityo
speedchuck wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:39 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:07 pm Where my boy speedchuck at
I'll tell you.

If you vote me in the poll.
tell me who you targeted last night and i will

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:54 pm
by sprityo
Kylemii wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:42 pm what happens if a misdirector targets someone who didn't choose to target anyone, nothing right? or would their target be chosen randomly?
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention]

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:59 pm
by Kylemii
as another datapoint, tonystarkprime wasn't able to use his power on the night he was killed. I think that's further evidence that the mafia has a block power.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:12 pm
by sprityo
Kylemii wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:59 pm as another datapoint, tonystarkprime wasn't able to use his power on the night he was killed. I think that's further evidence that the mafia has a block power.
i think they used that block on epi last night and killed mac

and then someone who has a misdirect has got to be lying or Long Con didnt target Quin

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:14 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
lapluie wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:48 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:02 pm Mac was right. We are doomed.
no, we are not DOOMED, let's stick togetehr now, youre my strongest town read, i think youre good. who have you voted for & think would be an ideal lynch right now? Name 2 people.
Ok fine. I had a moment of weakness.

For the record I'm horrible at reading people.

But right now I want to lynch Wilgy because he is the least contributive player in the game it's becoming more and more likely that mafia is laying low, since all the post heavy players have been falling like flies.

I'm also okay-ish with lynching Quin, though he's not as attractive a lynch.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:14 pm
by colonialbob
For the record I JKd Mac on N1 and attempted to RB Iron_Dwarf on N2 (failed, probably because I forgot about the weapon triangle in my haste to get the action in before the 12 hr mark). I did not feel like sharing because I did not want mafia to know what I had left. But they've all reset now, so I'm fine claiming.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:15 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:21 pm And Because you so gratiously asked, heres a rainbow list because "those solve games better"

sprityo
Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy

speedchuck
gwilikers6

lapluie
Kenway
colonialbob
Kites
Marmot
Kylemii

sig
Iron_Dwarf
rundontwalk

DrWilgy
Quin
I didn't say it had to be a rainbow. I just wanted reads based from post, not just night action guessing.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:15 pm
by sprityo
speaking of contributive players, i have not seen high nor low of epi all day

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:18 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Catching up. Give me a moment.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:18 pm
by sprityo
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:15 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:21 pm And Because you so gratiously asked, heres a rainbow list because "those solve games better"

sprityo
Epignosis
Dragon D. Luffy

speedchuck
gwilikers6

lapluie
Kenway
colonialbob
Kites
Marmot
Kylemii

sig
Iron_Dwarf
rundontwalk

DrWilgy
Quin
I didn't say it had to be a rainbow. I just wanted reads based from post, not just night action guessing.
fair enough

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:21 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Kylemii wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:32 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:32 pm
Kylemii wrote: Thu Feb 22, 2018 6:34 pm i have a question for everyone...

i tipped my hand yesterday to the fact that I'm using my magic to turn protections and pseudo protections into kills that only affect the mafia

do you think the mafia would have taken notice of that and also been concerned enough to block me, if they had the capability of doing so?
I think your role is block-bait.

Or misdirect bait.
okay but that's my question. my power failed last night.

my power being misdirected would only cause a fail if I ended up targeting Wilgy the pirate and even then it's possible my power would reverse his and make him easier to hit than more difficult. of the blockers that were active last night, there's Mac, who was civ and vocally townread me, then there's colonialbob who claims to have misdirected quin last night, and iron dwarf who, as of last phase, claimed he's never targeted me.

unless I'm missing something, there seems to be a contradiction in these claims
Mafia has more powers than the thread shows.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:22 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
gwilikers6 wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:34 pm I think the only town reads I'm genuinely confident on are Kites and speedchuck. Gonna look through Wilgy's and Quin's posts now.
Why do you townread Kites?

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:24 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Quin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:02 pm @sprityo

Was going to go through and nitpick your ISO of me, but then you called my nutella case a NO U and now I don't like you anymore. It's half-assed to say the least.

You're making these claims that I should be more responsible with my target choices when you don't even know who, or even if, I targeted. It doesn't even sound like you're trying to lynch me for being bad; you're after the vigilantes because for some reason we're more dangerous than scum. Sit down.
You are replying with an ad hominem and I don't like it.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:28 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Guys.

Gonna repeat it for emphasis.

MAFIA HAS MORE POWER THAN THE THREAD SHOWS

In addition to the promoted classes, which nobody except mafia and jack knows the content of, they also have their specific mafia flavors.

Of course they have roleblocks, and they may have misdirectors too.

You are not gonna nail everything that happened in the night by asking the pegasisters to say who they pegatargeted. Don't bother.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:29 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
With "flavors" I meant to say "backstory powers"

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:30 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Quin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:39 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:38 pm
Quin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:35 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:33 pm
Quin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:11 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:06 pm @Quin who did you kill? Why?
I didn't kill anyone.
Then. What. Did. You. Do. Last. Night???
slept, mostly.
Come on Quin, tell me your night action.

Let’s not feign ignorance
okay. i didn't submit. i didn't want long con redirecting me into a town read.
Bullshit. You need to submit to get a class promotion. Are you telling me you passed on a class that gets daily crits because you were afraid of a redirect from long con?

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:30 pm
by nutella
mmm mafia flavor

been thinking about running an ice cream themed game

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:31 pm
by Kylemii
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:28 pm Guys.

Gonna repeat it for emphasis.

MAFIA HAS MORE POWER THAN THE THREAD SHOWS

In addition to the promoted classes, which nobody except mafia and jack knows the content of, they also have their specific mafia flavors.

Of course they have roleblocks, and they may have misdirectors too.

You are not gonna nail everything that happened in the night by asking the pegasisters to say who they pegatargeted. Don't bother.
don't you think it's important to document the night actions that we do know about?

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:32 pm
by Quin
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:30 pm
Quin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:39 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:38 pm
Quin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:35 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:33 pm
Quin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:11 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:06 pm @Quin who did you kill? Why?
I didn't kill anyone.
Then. What. Did. You. Do. Last. Night???
slept, mostly.
Come on Quin, tell me your night action.

Let’s not feign ignorance
okay. i didn't submit. i didn't want long con redirecting me into a town read.
Bullshit. You need to submit to get a class promotion. Are you telling me you passed on a class that gets daily crits because you were afraid of a redirect from long con?
i did actually, yeah.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:32 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Kylemii wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:31 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:28 pm Guys.

Gonna repeat it for emphasis.

MAFIA HAS MORE POWER THAN THE THREAD SHOWS

In addition to the promoted classes, which nobody except mafia and jack knows the content of, they also have their specific mafia flavors.

Of course they have roleblocks, and they may have misdirectors too.

You are not gonna nail everything that happened in the night by asking the pegasisters to say who they pegatargeted. Don't bother.
don't you think it's important to document the night actions that we do know about?
I think it is. But I get goosebumps every time someone says they are going to "figure out what happened in the night".

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:33 pm
by sprityo
Kylemii wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:31 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:28 pm Guys.

Gonna repeat it for emphasis.

MAFIA HAS MORE POWER THAN THE THREAD SHOWS

In addition to the promoted classes, which nobody except mafia and jack knows the content of, they also have their specific mafia flavors.

Of course they have roleblocks, and they may have misdirectors too.

You are not gonna nail everything that happened in the night by asking the pegasisters to say who they pegatargeted. Don't bother.
don't you think it's important to document the night actions that we do know about?
im pretty sure Jack said the mafia has to kill in place of a their normal power. meaning unless they have a passive power as their back story they should only be doing the night kill

or at the very least their primary powers. meaning someone will have to lie

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:33 pm
by sprityo
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:32 pm
Kylemii wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:31 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:28 pm Guys.

Gonna repeat it for emphasis.

MAFIA HAS MORE POWER THAN THE THREAD SHOWS

In addition to the promoted classes, which nobody except mafia and jack knows the content of, they also have their specific mafia flavors.

Of course they have roleblocks, and they may have misdirectors too.

You are not gonna nail everything that happened in the night by asking the pegasisters to say who they pegatargeted. Don't bother.
don't you think it's important to document the night actions that we do know about?
I think it is. But I get goosebumps every time someone says they are going to "figure out what happened in the night".
of course you cant figure it out, you can only speculate

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:34 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
nutella wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:30 pm mmm mafia flavor

been thinking about running an ice cream themed game
Do it.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:37 pm
by speedchuck
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:54 pm
speedchuck wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:39 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 8:07 pm Where my boy speedchuck at
I'll tell you.

If you vote me in the poll.
tell me who you targeted last night and i will
Marmot. He cool.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:38 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:33 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:32 pm
Kylemii wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:31 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:28 pm Guys.

Gonna repeat it for emphasis.

MAFIA HAS MORE POWER THAN THE THREAD SHOWS

In addition to the promoted classes, which nobody except mafia and jack knows the content of, they also have their specific mafia flavors.

Of course they have roleblocks, and they may have misdirectors too.

You are not gonna nail everything that happened in the night by asking the pegasisters to say who they pegatargeted. Don't bother.
don't you think it's important to document the night actions that we do know about?
I think it is. But I get goosebumps every time someone says they are going to "figure out what happened in the night".
of course you cant figure it out, you can only speculate
Dude for all we know mafia used their triple roleblock misdirect combo one-shot that forces targets to post in haikus next day if they happen to begin the day with a smiley.

You guys need to play more heavy role madness.

Vote for Girl Genius next queue and I'll fix that for you.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:40 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Quin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:32 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:30 pm
Quin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:39 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:38 pm
Quin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:35 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:33 pm
Quin wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:11 pm

I didn't kill anyone.
Then. What. Did. You. Do. Last. Night???
slept, mostly.
Come on Quin, tell me your night action.

Let’s not feign ignorance
okay. i didn't submit. i didn't want long con redirecting me into a town read.
Bullshit. You need to submit to get a class promotion. Are you telling me you passed on a class that gets daily crits because you were afraid of a redirect from long con?
i did actually, yeah.
I don't believe you but I really want Wilgy dead.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:44 pm
by speedchuck
[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine
[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:46 pm
by sprityo
we have until 7pm CST tomorrow i believe to vote, so weve got time for everyone else to make an appearance and go "eh yeah we can lynch wilgy"

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:47 pm
by speedchuck
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:46 pm we have until 7pm CST tomorrow i believe to vote, so weve got time for everyone else to make an appearance and go "eh yeah we can lynch wilgy"
Good. Maybe if we're freaking unanimous, we can actually lynch the person we want lynched.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:47 pm
by Kylemii
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:32 pmI think it is. But I get goosebumps every time someone says they are going to "figure out what happened in the night".
but the thing is, you're at this very moment questioning quin on his lack of power usage, which was only found out because of the exact line of questioning that you implied isn't worthwhile. B)

it's possible the mafia has a secret block or misdirect ability. I'd assumed their secrets abilities would be passives or one shots or other things that aren't already duplicates of role powers they could have drafted. but even if they have a secret block of some kind there's too many players with pro town abilities who failed their actions last night, even if we account for the mafia having a secret block.

that said.... this is starting to feel like a dead end.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:48 pm
by Dragon D. Luffy
Kylemii wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:47 pm but the thing is, you're at this very moment questioning quin on his lack of power usage, which was only found out because of the exact line of questioning that you implied isn't worthwhile. B)
I hate you.

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:48 pm
by nutella
AUBERGINE

[5] DrWilgy - Dragon D. Luffy, colonialbob, nutella, sig, speedchuck
[1] Quin - lapluie
[1] nutella - Iron_Dwarf

No vote: DrWilgy, Epignosis, gwilikers6, Kenway, Kites, Kylemii, Marmot, Quin, rundontwalk, sprityo

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:49 pm
by Kylemii
did the votes at the end of the last phase end up confirming iron dwarf as civ cus of math and monks, or did something fuck it?

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:49 pm
by sprityo
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:48 pm
Kylemii wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:47 pm but the thing is, you're at this very moment questioning quin on his lack of power usage, which was only found out because of the exact line of questioning that you implied isn't worthwhile. B)
I hate you.
hee hee

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:50 pm
by nutella
Kylemii wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:49 pm did the votes at the end of the last phase end up confirming iron dwarf as civ cus of math and monks, or did something fuck it?
we can't really be sure

but sprityo's double vote claim brought it back to more likely?

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:50 pm
by Kylemii
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:48 pmI hate you.
whatever dad, i'll be in my room :guitar:

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:52 pm
by sprityo
Jay had 2 bonus votes on him

one from me and one from mac

so he had 8 unless other people had shenanigans going on

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:53 pm
by sprityo
is it worth nothing Jay had all town voting him +DrWilgy?

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:53 pm
by nutella
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:52 pm Jay had 2 bonus votes on him

one from me and one from mac

so he had 8 unless other people had shenanigans going on
well speedchuck also claimed that he stole DDL's vote so that brought it to 7-7 I think? :keys:

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:54 pm
by nutella
wait what was mac's bonus vote :confused:

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:55 pm
by sprityo
nutella wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:54 pm wait what was mac's bonus vote :confused:
his backstory

he gains a level and a bonus vote when someone votes immediately after him

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 3]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:55 pm
by sprityo
Hence
sprityo wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:52 am
MacDougall wrote: Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:51 am [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine
:shrug: [VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:56 pm
by Kylemii
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:53 pm is it worth nothing Jay had all town voting him +DrWilgy?
huh?

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:57 pm
by sprityo
Kylemii wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:56 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:53 pm is it worth nothing Jay had all town voting him +DrWilgy?
huh?
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2018 3:02 pm Day 3

[6] JaggedJimmyJay - Dragon D. Luffy, McDougall, Epignosis, sprityo, Marmot, DrWilgy
[6] Iron_Dwarf - colonialbob, speedchuck, nutella, gwilikers6, JaggedJimmyJay, Kylemii
[1] sig - Kenway
[1] DrWilgy - Long Con
[3] nutella - Iron_Dwarf, Quin, lapluie
[1] rundontwalk - Kites
[1] gwilikers6 - rundontwalk

No vote: sig (but a good effort)

Much vote manipulation. Very unexpect
assuming speedchuck is telling the truth and marmot is town

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:57 pm
by sprityo
i mean [mention]speedchuck[/mention] by "he cool" you mean marmot was town right?

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:57 pm
by speedchuck
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:57 pm i mean @speedchuck by "he cool" you mean marmot was town right?
yeh

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:58 pm
by nutella
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:55 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:54 pm wait what was mac's bonus vote :confused:
his backstory

he gains a level and a bonus vote when someone votes immediately after him
huh, I don't remember him saying this

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:00 pm
by sprityo
nutella wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:58 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:55 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:54 pm wait what was mac's bonus vote :confused:
his backstory

he gains a level and a bonus vote when someone votes immediately after him
huh, I don't remember him saying this
:shrug: probably didnt. like how i didnt mention mine

Re: Fire Emblem Draft Mafia [Day 4]

Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:01 pm
by nutella
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:00 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:58 pm
sprityo wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:55 pm
nutella wrote: Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:54 pm wait what was mac's bonus vote :confused:
his backstory

he gains a level and a bonus vote when someone votes immediately after him
huh, I don't remember him saying this
:shrug: probably didnt. like how i didnt mention mine
wtf am I missing here