The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[Made]

Basing votes on wagon composition is almost always a mistake FWIW. It's confirmation bias and doesn't help accuracy at all

Survivors bias, maybe, but not confirmation bias because I wasn’t looking for a conclusion. I came up with this based on looking at the poll
I just noticed that marmot has been missing the chop again and again even tho Mac voiced wanted to go there, but created wagons to avoid doing so. That’s like the job description of a powerwolf

(This also probably spews Gavial)

[TonyStarkPrime]

I also hate the reasoning on the Tim wagon that I've read. We're wagoning him because he isn't town enough? Because people just aren't feeling it? Come on now

incredible

[Timsup2nothin]

if we flipped the below names

Enrique
lost monkey
made
master radiation
nacho

I'm calling 2 wolves at min and nothing of value lost.

Where's the mass kill button?

So town has chopped two relatively low posting / low presence players and missed twice.

But you want to keep trying that strategy.

This is never w/w right??

It’s gonna be hard for me to read into MR and even Vulgard in context with Mac.

In a vaccuum, sure that could be w/w. Especially since MR doesn’t actually continue that line of shade

I mean more Mac pushing that list of names and including Radishes on it. It’s clear that radishes came to thread fighting. do you say that about your teammate when they just came in with a blitz of post??

Not likely, but not impossible. Something I would probably do if bad

That's distancing 101...no one was gonna kill Radishes at that point, so if they are partners it is a fine time to lay some smack at him.

[Kylemii]

I wonder if wolves tried to save falcon or tim there

makes u think

yeah I definitely tried to save falcon and tim

[TonyStarkPrime]

If Kyle is right, and Mac CFD’d D2 the only person you’re protection here is marmot

@Timsup2nothin you really think it’s most likely that we were 100% off day 2?

[Scotty]

I also hate the reasoning on the Tim wagon that I've read. We're wagoning him because he isn't town enough? Because people just aren't feeling it? Come on now

Man I wish I could vote for 2 people

[Scotty]

I wonder if wolves tried to save falcon or tim there

makes u think

yeah I definitely tried to save falcon and tim

[Timsup2nothin]

If Kyle is right, and Mac CFD’d D2 the only person you’re protection here is marmot

@Timsup2nothin you really think it’s most likely that we were 100% off day 2?

No, but you seem to be getting nowhere pushing Marmot and there seem to be plenty of people saying "oh we never even sniffed a wolf all game, Marmot AND Falcon are town, time to just wildly chop into people who we never really even tried before at random."

[Kylemii]

why is marmot town again?

[Made]

If Kyle is right, and Mac CFD’d D2 the only person you’re protection here is marmot

@Timsup2nothin you really think it’s most likely that we were 100% off day 2?

No, but you seem to be getting nowhere pushing Marmot and there seem to be plenty of people saying "oh we never even sniffed a wolf all game, Marmot AND Falcon are town, time to just wildly chop into people who we never really even tried before at random."

why is marmot town again?

Haha yes. Here comes the cavalry

[Kylemii]

could you look at Marmot and syn and seanzie day 1. and look at after eod on day 1 , during twighlight. i think I saw something and maybe I am wrong.

just look. this isn't some wild goose chase either Kyle. this is serious. if you don't see what o saw rhen nvm. just let me know if you checked or not. and if you do, let me know what you find or don't find.

thank you in advancements

seanzie opens up with his team list gambit, syn is on the list. has a back and forth with scotty. down with ketchup with marmot, makes a read list with mac and syn both at the top. there's an unreadable conversation between tim using color highlighting uh ok this iso probably doesn't have what you're talking about it's mostly just tim

syn....... not much of interest regarding seanzie or marmot until...., marmot says scotty is probably twon for activity level. syn says marmot loses equity for trusting made's gimmick there's a little back and forth here

marmot does not really meaningfully interact with seanzie or syn until he.... accuses made for choosing to use a gimmick, wait. i maybe read this wrong earlier. whatever. back and forth between syn and marmot about gimmicks and whether or not made is solving, marmot does not really intereact with seanzie in any meaningful way

twilight:
syn wonders if maybe day 1 was a 'wolves attempting to save falcon or tim', and macdougall says "yeah i definitely trie dto saave falcon and tim" seanzie didn't pst during the twilight. interesting. i wonder if this is what you meant? it's an interesting possibly gloaty wifom piece but it doesn't involve marmot so i don't think this is what you meant

conclusion, i think maybe i'm not seeing what you mean with these three specific players? i assume it's about marmto cus the other 2 are dead but i don't see the intersection of syn and seanzie, i could use a hint maybe

[Made]

@Scotty hi, u should vote marmot to spite Tim. (We can go back later if you want)

[Timsup2nothin]

@Scotty hi, u should vote marmot to spite Tim. (We can go back later if you want)

sigh

leadership from the green check

this town man...

[Scotty]

@Scotty hi, u should vote marmot to spite Tim. (We can go back later if you want)

Sure ok
But first [VOTE: Tim] aubergine

[Scotty]

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[Scotty]

I still would like to petition nacho as the second wagon. Seeing marmot already voting there is a head scratcher, but marmot could still be town.

I don’t like that nacho popped back in just now just to say “nuh uh! Just cause wolves are voting both doesn’t mean you shouldn’t also vote with them! Also Tim is the Goodest of town! Kanye”

[Scotty]

I still would like to petition nacho as the second wagon. Seeing marmot already voting there is a head scratcher, but marmot could still be town.

I don’t like that nacho popped back in just now just to say “nuh uh! Just cause wolves are voting both doesn’t mean you shouldn’t also vote with them! Also Tim is the Goodest of town! Kanye”

That should read kbye but I don’t mind the typo

[Timsup2nothin]

@Scotty hi, u should vote marmot to spite Tim. (We can go back later if you want)

Sure ok
But first [VOTE: Tim] aubergine

If you have some kind of vote fuckery power and all these "vote Tim" things are piling up, tell me now so I can just tune out. I can overs=come the magic hammer and some wolf voting, but if you are piling on multiple votes I can just call it and go play video games.

Actually, I have about half an hour before real life beckons anyway, but I'll be back for EoD.

[Made]

Also the marmot/Mog chop: marmots voters were FAAARR more pure


Also also Tim’s “we gotta be 3 points up” while accurate is a bit of fear bait, especially since he was arguing for something that’s pro Tim, and anti town/fatalistic.
“Guise we have to be really right today. 3 votes up!!! Also we gotta vote falcon because he’s the best chance we have to prove me town, and the only way to prove me town is for me to get falcon pelt, specifically”

[Timsup2nothin]

I still would like to petition nacho as the second wagon. Seeing marmot already voting there is a head scratcher, but marmot could still be town.

I don’t like that nacho popped back in just now just to say “nuh uh! Just cause wolves are voting both doesn’t mean you shouldn’t also vote with them! Also Tim is the Goodest of town! Kanye”

That should read kbye but I don’t mind the typo

Kanye was kinda thought provoking there and I was admiring you for it.

So what happens if I

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

???

[Timsup2nothin]

Did I actually say "three points up" somewhere? That sounds way too specific for me. I am notoriously vague, except when I am trying to be vague.

[Made]

Did I actually say "three points up" somewhere? That sounds way too specific for me. I am notoriously vague, except when I am trying to be vague.

I think so? Maybe misattributing that, but someone definitely said something along the lines of “we must be up by 3 votes”

[Scotty]

Did I actually say "three points up" somewhere? That sounds way too specific for me. I am notoriously vague, except when I am trying to be vague.

I think so? Maybe misattributing that, but someone definitely said something along the lines of “we must be up by 3 votes”

I mean I said that. Could be what you’re referring to?

And I do believe we need to be 3 votes up so as not to get any shenanigans, but again...herding cats

[Timsup2nothin]

Did I actually say "three points up" somewhere? That sounds way too specific for me. I am notoriously vague, except when I am trying to be vague.

I think so? Maybe misattributing that, but someone definitely said something along the lines of “we must be up by 3 votes”

I mean I said that. Could be what you’re referring to?

And I do believe we need to be 3 votes up so as not to get any shenanigans, but again...herding cats

For the record, if I were a wolf and had a partner using the slammer hammer on my CW three votes up wouldn't be enough. I figure the slammer hammer is on me though so if you get that herd of cats up to three vote margin you should be fine.

[TonyStarkPrime]

What does a guy have to do to get a decent chop around here

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m good at reading Falcon he’s a wolf

[TonyStarkPrime]

Get him

[TonyStarkPrime]

Nacho, perhaps also a wolf, he can be a CW

[Timsup2nothin]

I’m good at reading Falcon he’s a wolf

Maybe if you had come with this sooner it would look less like just an attempt to save Marmot?

I mean, you ask what you have to do to get a descent chop...maybe try something other than just lying around nursing your reads. Act like you actually care about who is chopped.

[Scotty]

Ok. I’m not gonna be around much at eod. Will be able to pop in but won’t read what happens in the next 3 hours.

Would love a wagon on 2 people between Tim/falcon/marmot, none of this vanity wagon shit.

Consolidate

[Timsup2nothin]

Right now from my POV we have a Falcon/Marmot tie, and I am cool with that.

[DaisyCloud]

this game is too hard. my hand hurts.

[Scotty]

Right now from my POV we have a Falcon/Marmot tie, and I am cool with that.

Pretty confident one of jack/MR/Vulgard don’t have BK’s sword are we?

[Scotty]

this game is too hard. my hand hurts.

I don’t know what you want me to say

Wrist guard?

[Timsup2nothin]

Right now from my POV we have a Falcon/Marmot tie, and I am cool with that.

Pretty confident one of jack/MR/Vulgard don’t have BK’s sword are we?

Nope...I have enough juice to overcome that.

[Timsup2nothin]

this game is too hard. my hand hurts.

I don’t know what you want me to say

Wrist guard?

She got stung by a wasp.

It's a sign, since I am riding heavily on Telvanni Bug Musk

[Scotty]

this game is too hard. my hand hurts.

I don’t know what you want me to say

Wrist guard?

She got stung by a wasp.

It's a sign, since I am riding heavily on Telvanni Bug Musk

Oof missed that

Sorry @DaisyCloud ! That sucks

[DaisyCloud]

could you look at Marmot and syn and seanzie day 1. and look at after eod on day 1 , during twighlight. i think I saw something and maybe I am wrong.

just look. this isn't some wild goose chase either Kyle. this is serious. if you don't see what o saw rhen nvm. just let me know if you checked or not. and if you do, let me know what you find or don't find.

thank you in advancements

seanzie opens up with his team list gambit, syn is on the list. has a back and forth with scotty. down with ketchup with marmot, makes a read list with mac and syn both at the top. there's an unreadable conversation between tim using color highlighting uh ok this iso probably doesn't have what you're talking about it's mostly just tim

syn....... not much of interest regarding seanzie or marmot until...., marmot says scotty is probably twon for activity level. syn says marmot loses equity for trusting made's gimmick there's a little back and forth here

marmot does not really meaningfully interact with seanzie or syn until he.... accuses made for choosing to use a gimmick, wait. i maybe read this wrong earlier. whatever. back and forth between syn and marmot about gimmicks and whether or not made is solving, marmot does not really intereact with seanzie in any meaningful way

twilight:
syn wonders if maybe day 1 was a 'wolves attempting to save falcon or tim', and macdougall says "yeah i definitely trie dto saave falcon and tim" seanzie didn't pst during the twilight. interesting. i wonder if this is what you meant? it's an interesting possibly gloaty wifom piece but it doesn't involve marmot so i don't think this is what you meant

conclusion, i think maybe i'm not seeing what you mean with these three specific players? i assume it's about marmto cus the other 2 are dead but i don't see the intersection of syn and seanzie, i could use a hint maybe

okay yeah that stuff u mention, not neccesarily alignment indicative.

I can't give a hint. it's there or it's not. and I trust you to be town. so if you don't see what I thought I saw then it's not there. I just read wrong.

yeah,
if you couldn't see it then it doesn't exist. but just incase what about when kza was talking about her claim to an artifact?

I was around in rl during most of that time. reading back tho it looks a bit differently.

if you'll look back around that time too and tell me you don't see it then I will know for sure it doesn't exist. if you don't have the time before eod that is okay.

I realize I keep repeating the same thing. it isn't to convince you, but to convince myself, I think

[Long Con]

What if we had a separate 2nd wagon of..oh...nacho? Would anyone object to that?

I would not object to a Nacho yeet. I'm leery on the Marmot yeet. It would be nice to think we almost had a wolf in those other times that Marmot had votes but got away, but that's kind of Gambler's Fallacy, isn't it?

Y’all, if you’re NOT voting Tim, please tell me what parts of him scream town atm? I don’t want to hear comparative statements to falcon being ‘less town’ but concrete gut feeling on why Tim is town

I have just thought him towny all game, and I'll die on that hill. I don't have receipts to convince you. I've agreed with a lot of what he says, and I have had doubts about his detractors. If he's a wolf, he's got a big comfy pocket that I am in.

[TonyStarkPrime]

It’s not my fault we have to think about chopping marmot here, who I also think is probably a wolf

[TonyStarkPrime]

But wagon formation rn makes me less confident of that

[DaisyCloud]

I read Tony's iso.

conclusion. how come he reads scumbly. and how come he doesn't care.

y do I have so many nulls?

[TonyStarkPrime]

This is on you

[Timsup2nothin]

What if we had a separate 2nd wagon of..oh...nacho? Would anyone object to that?

I would not object to a Nacho yeet. I'm leery on the Marmot yeet. It would be nice to think we almost had a wolf in those other times that Marmot had votes but got away, but that's kind of Gambler's Fallacy, isn't it?

Y’all, if you’re NOT voting Tim, please tell me what parts of him scream town atm? I don’t want to hear comparative statements to falcon being ‘less town’ but concrete gut feeling on why Tim is town

I have just thought him towny all game, and I'll die on that hill. I don't have receipts to convince you. I've agreed with a lot of what he says, and I have had doubts about his detractors. If he's a wolf, he's got a big comfy pocket that I am in.

[Kylemii]

could you look at Marmot and syn and seanzie day 1. and look at after eod on day 1 , during twighlight. i think I saw something and maybe I am wrong.

just look. this isn't some wild goose chase either Kyle. this is serious. if you don't see what o saw rhen nvm. just let me know if you checked or not. and if you do, let me know what you find or don't find.

thank you in advancements

seanzie opens up with his team list gambit, syn is on the list. has a back and forth with scotty. down with ketchup with marmot, makes a read list with mac and syn both at the top. there's an unreadable conversation between tim using color highlighting uh ok this iso probably doesn't have what you're talking about it's mostly just tim

syn....... not much of interest regarding seanzie or marmot until...., marmot says scotty is probably twon for activity level. syn says marmot loses equity for trusting made's gimmick there's a little back and forth here

marmot does not really meaningfully interact with seanzie or syn until he.... accuses made for choosing to use a gimmick, wait. i maybe read this wrong earlier. whatever. back and forth between syn and marmot about gimmicks and whether or not made is solving, marmot does not really intereact with seanzie in any meaningful way

twilight:
syn wonders if maybe day 1 was a 'wolves attempting to save falcon or tim', and macdougall says "yeah i definitely trie dto saave falcon and tim" seanzie didn't pst during the twilight. interesting. i wonder if this is what you meant? it's an interesting possibly gloaty wifom piece but it doesn't involve marmot so i don't think this is what you meant

conclusion, i think maybe i'm not seeing what you mean with these three specific players? i assume it's about marmto cus the other 2 are dead but i don't see the intersection of syn and seanzie, i could use a hint maybe

okay yeah that stuff u mention, not neccesarily alignment indicative.

I can't give a hint. it's there or it's not. and I trust you to be town. so if you don't see what I thought I saw then it's not there. I just read wrong.

yeah,
if you couldn't see it then it doesn't exist. but just incase what about when kza was talking about her claim to an artifact?

I was around in rl during most of that time. reading back tho it looks a bit differently.

if you'll look back around that time too and tell me you don't see it then I will know for sure it doesn't exist. if you don't have the time before eod that is okay.

I realize I keep repeating the same thing. it isn't to convince you, but to convince myself, I think

with regards to marmot?

[TonyStarkPrime]

what’s a scumbly

[TonyStarkPrime]

Though wow is that marmot wagon pure

[DaisyCloud]

this game is too hard. my hand hurts.

I don’t know what you want me to say

Wrist guard?

She got stung by a wasp.

It's a sign, since I am riding heavily on Telvanni Bug Musk

Oof missed that

Sorry @DaisyCloud ! That sucks

yeah it really hurts. I have been icing it and thdn let my hand rest.

the wasp is still somewhere in the apartment. idk where it flew to.

[Timsup2nothin]

But wagon formation rn makes me less confident of that

From my POV the Marmot wagon is pure. Does not have a great track record for being right, but is pure. You make the Falcon wagon look kinda sketch, and if there isn't AT LEAST one wolf on me then I have never seen a wolf.

PS: I have caught wolves.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think Tim is town because he’s played less aggressively and more contrarily and I think that’s a good sign