Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]

[Sloonei]

The good news is I've had a very productive day in terms of thesis writing.
The bad news is I'm drained of would-be mafia energy.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Bullshit. Show us your thesis.

[Dom]

:rolleeyes:

[Sloonei]

Bullshit. Show us your thesis.

it's not done yet.

[TonyStarkPrime]

The Monitor - You cannot be nightkilled by regular means. By the end of Day 1, you will choose two players to be Harbinger and Pariah. They will know who you are.

If Harbinger is alive, and has not been found by the Anti-Monitor at the start of Day 6, she will choose one player to resurrect.

If this happens I recommend nutella.

Suppose the Harbinger is mafia.

Then the Monitor, who I think is alive, can go ballistic.

Dizzy is the monitor, known by a mafia member harbinger and killed and janitored day 2 for precisely that purpose

I doubt this is true.

apparently it’s impossible but it’s a fun theory

[TonyStarkPrime]

JJJ lynch before sig. Do it.

okay

[TonyStarkPrime]

JJJ lynch before sig. Do it.

Epi I thought your avatar was a Lego minifigure but I’ve just realized it’s not.

[Sloonei]

I have been keeping an eye on the thread though and have a few general comments.

I get skepticism, but Jack's suggestion that one of myself, Jay, or juliets must be bad feels arbitrary. I'm not totally willing to write them off as suspects, but I have no urgent reason to regard them as suspects and can easily envision a world where they're both town.

The case against ted is the most intriguing new development I've seen today. The Jay case is paranoia bullshit at the moment as far as I can tell. I'm not sure why nanook has votes, but one of them is from sig which is goofy.

RIP Ghosts

[Sloonei]

alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.

[Sloonei]

Everything sig does today can only be viewed through the lens of wifom, if viewed at all. Does anyone care to analyze dat nanook vote?

[TonyStarkPrime]

alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.

Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes

[TonyStarkPrime]

Everything sig does today can only be viewed through the lens of wifom, if viewed at all. Does anyone care to analyze dat nanook vote?

memes

[speedchuck]

I scumread everyone with a vote right now. Ahhhhhh multiball.

Ok, why does multiball matter when you suspect everyone with a vote? In the purest sense, it’s still an either-or, black-white, good-bad situation if you are a civvie. This feels like it’s for show.

Because some of my scumreads are not compatible to be on the same team with each other.

I don't care if you think it's for show. I'm amused that all the wagons right now are lynches that could compete with each other, yet could also all be scum.

[speedchuck]

Well, I assume sig is dying, which is fine, but I don't think that's the smartest play. I'm not around much to cause a bit of noise, but oh well

Wait really.

Epi might be in bed but does any person here (other than Sig) know why it might not be the smartest play to lynch sig?

[Sloonei]

alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.

Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes

What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?

[TonyStarkPrime]

You call the case against Jay paranoia bullshit. I largely agree. But we’re paranoid. The rational side of me says we need to lynch someone on Mac’s team and I look at the sea of options and see nulls at best. So who do we lynch?

[TonyStarkPrime]

alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.

Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes

What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?

Mac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I have been keeping an eye on the thread though and have a few general comments.

I get skepticism, but Jack's suggestion that one of myself, Jay, or juliets must be bad feels arbitrary. I'm not totally willing to write them off as suspects, but I have no urgent reason to regard them as suspects and can easily envision a world where they're both town.

The case against ted is the most intriguing new development I've seen today. The Jay case is paranoia bullshit at the moment as far as I can tell. I'm not sure why nanook has votes, but one of them is from sig which is goofy.

RIP Ghosts

You can disagree but saying it’s arbitrary is uh....not good

[Dom]

Well, I assume sig is dying, which is fine, but I don't think that's the smartest play. I'm not around much to cause a bit of noise, but oh well

Wait really.

Epi might be in bed but does any person here (other than Sig) know why it might not be the smartest play to lynch sig?

blah blah strengthen other baddie team blah blah

[TonyStarkPrime]

Well, I assume sig is dying, which is fine, but I don't think that's the smartest play. I'm not around much to cause a bit of noise, but oh well

Wait really.

Epi might be in bed but does any person here (other than Sig) know why it might not be the smartest play to lynch sig?

Allows for people to slink this day out, leaving Sig opens up some amount of control over scum actions, he’s fun to have around and is a known entity, we need to have some push on other leads, his role is probably a net plus for town even if it’s insanely annoying outside of the fact that he can use it to protect the AM tonight which gives one last shot at Harbinger.

[Sloonei]

alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.

Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes

What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?

Mac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.

The confirmed scum player has no reason to lie?

I’m interested in the high compatibility bit. Hopefully I’ll look into it myself one of these days.

[Sloonei]

I have been keeping an eye on the thread though and have a few general comments.

I get skepticism, but Jack's suggestion that one of myself, Jay, or juliets must be bad feels arbitrary. I'm not totally willing to write them off as suspects, but I have no urgent reason to regard them as suspects and can easily envision a world where they're both town.

The case against ted is the most intriguing new development I've seen today. The Jay case is paranoia bullshit at the moment as far as I can tell. I'm not sure why nanook has votes, but one of them is from sig which is goofy.

RIP Ghosts

You can disagree but saying it’s arbitrary is uh....not good

I mean, why pick those three names?

[Jackofhearts2005]

alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.

Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes

What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?

Mac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.

This is gonna sound stupid but...what if Mac doesn't know who the Antimonitor is?

[TonyStarkPrime]

alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.

Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes

What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?

Mac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.

The confirmed scum player has no reason to lie?

I’m interested in the high compatibility bit. Hopefully I’ll look into it myself one of these days.

I think it is highly likely that that scum team is aware or reasonably confident of the identity of the antimonitor. The rest of the team will be scared off because of what happened to Sig but Mac has no reason to be scared like such.

[TonyStarkPrime]

alright tony changes his vote off of nanook as soon as i mention it. sig is now the only one voting nanook. goofy.

Nanook probably AM and Sig along for the memes

What evidence is there for nanook as the anti-monitor?

Mac said so. He has no reason to lie. High compatibility when most of the field has been cleared.

This is gonna sound stupid but...what if Mac doesn't know who the Antimonitor is?

I think he does.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I have no guarantee that’s just what I’m picking up.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I have been keeping an eye on the thread though and have a few general comments.

I get skepticism, but Jack's suggestion that one of myself, Jay, or juliets must be bad feels arbitrary. I'm not totally willing to write them off as suspects, but I have no urgent reason to regard them as suspects and can easily envision a world where they're both town.

The case against ted is the most intriguing new development I've seen today. The Jay case is paranoia bullshit at the moment as far as I can tell. I'm not sure why nanook has votes, but one of them is from sig which is goofy.

RIP Ghosts

You can disagree but saying it’s arbitrary is uh....not good

I mean, why pick those three names?

Read his post again. He said why

[Jackofhearts2005]

I have been keeping an eye on the thread though and have a few general comments.

I get skepticism, but Jack's suggestion that one of myself, Jay, or juliets must be bad feels arbitrary. I'm not totally willing to write them off as suspects, but I have no urgent reason to regard them as suspects and can easily envision a world where they're both town.

The case against ted is the most intriguing new development I've seen today. The Jay case is paranoia bullshit at the moment as far as I can tell. I'm not sure why nanook has votes, but one of them is from sig which is goofy.

RIP Ghosts

You can disagree but saying it’s arbitrary is uh....not good

I mean, why pick those three names?

1) Because your reactions to the Mac case are similar
2) You all townread each other
3) You're all dangerous as town compared to the others on the Sig wagon D3 (no offense ya'll) and are still alive
4) Jay and Juliets have basically the exact same reads on the players on the Sig wagon D3

Which is not to go into smaller individual reasons for suspecting Jay and to a lesser extent, you and Juliets.

[TonyStarkPrime]

The argument is paranoid. There is a either widely townread or “writing a masters thesis” heavy hitter on the scum team. There has to be. Why? It feels like there has to be.

I agree that it feels like there has to be.
I think it’s Sloonei, not Jay, but that’s not the point.
I don’t think it’s rational by any means.

[TonyStarkPrime]

There are twoish groups of people who largely share reads and who don’t trust each other. They comprise maybe half the players.

The other half are MIA today, feels like.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Though I’ve been pretty MIA so I’m not sure I quite get the thread feel

[Jackofhearts2005]

The argument is paranoid. There is a either widely townread or “writing a masters thesis” heavy hitter on the scum team. There has to be. Why? It feels like there has to be.

I agree that it feels like there has to be.
I think it’s Sloonei, not Jay, but that’s not the point.
I don’t think it’s rational by any means.

No, there has to be Mac teammates on the Sig train. With an s at the end. As in not just Colin.
Wait what.

[TonyStarkPrime]

The argument is paranoid. There is a either widely townread or “writing a masters thesis” heavy hitter on the scum team. There has to be. Why? It feels like there has to be.

I agree that it feels like there has to be.
I think it’s Sloonei, not Jay, but that’s not the point.
I don’t think it’s rational by any means.

No, there has to be Mac teammates on the Sig train. With an s at the end. As in not just Colin.
Wait what.

I agree. I think it’s likely that it’s two or three.
I don’t think there’s any reason why particularly besides that I definitely would’ve taken the easy vote.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The best evidence in this thread that I am not on Mac's team can be viewed in my Day 2 posts. Mac was in line to be lynched, and while I favored a Radish lynch I did nothing of consequence to prevent the Mac lynch -- because he was suspicious too. Folks can go read that. Confirmation bias is bound to flare up as it always seems to when people view me as a suspect, but I'm not Mac's teammate. And if you give the slightest sliver of a shit about figuring that out, then that's what you should review.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Has ted said anything about my beefs?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]tedxtr[/mention] you're mafia. Die.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Something comes to mind. In a world where people want to save Mac, the Day 2 lynch is the more interesting one. Mac led by at least three votes late before he was overtaken by a quick Radish push. I’ll look at it later.

That came to mind?

Nobody wanted to save Mac. Mac was doomed.

You may have felt that way. It'd explain your utter lack of conviction about Mac.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Colin voted Radishes D2 and sig D3. He's the clearest Master team suspect purely by voting pattern.

[tedxtr]

I have one more school busy day and then I’m free for 1 week cuz of corona.

Sorry for low activity peeps i’ll do better starting tonight

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Something comes to mind. In a world where people want to save Mac, the Day 2 lynch is the more interesting one. Mac led by at least three votes late before he was overtaken by a quick Radish push. I’ll look at it later.

uhh.... you?

No. What?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I have one more school busy day and then I’m free for 1 week cuz of corona.

Sorry for low activity peeps i’ll do better starting tonight

Hold him to this if I am not around.

[tedxtr]

I don’t need babysitters it’s fine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Colin voted Radishes D2 and sig D3. He's the clearest Master team suspect purely by voting pattern.

You can say the same for juliets and Sloonei.

And guess what? I don't care! They're town reads!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Turnip Head voted Radish on D2. Mac asked him for help.

He voted off-wagon on D3.

His votes are worse than Colin's.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I see more viable suspects on the Mac wagon D3 than on the sig wagon.

tedxtr - could be
TonyStarkPrime - could be
G-Man - doubt it
Jackofhearts2005 - doubt it
Michelle - could be
Nanook - doubt it
sig - confirmed nope
sprityo - confirmed nope
Epignosis - could be
Tranq - could be

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Master's team guess as of right now:

MacDougall +

Turnip Head
ColinIsCool
tedxtr

[TonyStarkPrime]

anecdotally, over half of all scum wins I’ve ever seen are “people who were almost on the chopping block and didn’t do much all game get barely not lynched” and much less than half are “scum masterminds run over town”. Almost all town wins are the former.
I’m still working through Jack and Jay’s alternatives today. But I see no reason outside of paranoia to accept Jack’s view that there must be mafia between JJJ, Sloonei, and Juliets and that scum must be on Sig etc even if I town read him and not Jay.

[Jackofhearts2005]

As long as you vote Jay, it's fine.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If y'all are truly this bananas, then remember the gifts I left you. I won't be able to spook you anymore.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

The best evidence in this thread that I am not on Mac's team can be viewed in my Day 2 posts. Mac was in line to be lynched, and while I favored a Radish lynch I did nothing of consequence to prevent the Mac lynch -- because he was suspicious too. Folks can go read that. Confirmation bias is bound to flare up as it always seems to when people view me as a suspect, but I'm not Mac's teammate. And if you give the slightest sliver of a shit about figuring that out, then that's what you should review.

And be sure to shame those who didn't at least pay me the respect of looking at this. ^