The Syndicate

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 am also jagged, i was a bit confused about how you felt that DOOM's reaction to my claim was "outing" - would you mind expanding on that? or did you just mean that me being confirmed town made DOOM a much more likely scum?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 amDk maybe too

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:35 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:31 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:31 am Good mornin sunshines whats cookin

Someone tried to shoot you probably

Dude i just woke up and i dreamt someone was trying to mug me and stab me and i ran away. Is that just fate? Im telling u man my dreams are prophetic

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:35 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:31 am

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:31 am Good mornin sunshines whats cookin

Someone tried to shoot you probably

Dude i just woke up and i dreamt someone was trying to mug me and stab me and i ran away. Is that just fate? Im telling u man my dreams are prophetic

scum reading this post but eeeeeee eiigneaoirghjaeo;gjharwelio

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:35 am something worth noting is that the scum are almost certainly feeling blindsided right now

coming into today, made, michelle, and myself were all viable chop options from the mafias perspective. i would bet that the mafia were banking on at least one of those three being chopped within the next two days

and within a few hours of the day starting, the scum have suddenly lost three very valuable consensus POE chops. this is going to make the scum scramble and force themselves into positions that they might not otherwise have

Yeah

Legit think Alison is frozen

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:37 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 amDk maybe too

have either DK or alison posted yet today? not sure i would perceive them as "frozen" when they could also just be AFK

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:35 am something worth noting is that the scum are almost certainly feeling blindsided right now

coming into today, made, michelle, and myself were all viable chop options from the mafias perspective. i would bet that the mafia were banking on at least one of those three being chopped within the next two days

and within a few hours of the day starting, the scum have suddenly lost three very valuable consensus POE chops. this is going to make the scum scramble and force themselves into positions that they might not otherwise have

Yeah

Legit think Alison is frozen

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:38 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:35 am something worth noting is that the scum are almost certainly feeling blindsided right now

coming into today, made, michelle, and myself were all viable chop options from the mafias perspective. i would bet that the mafia were banking on at least one of those three being chopped within the next two days

and within a few hours of the day starting, the scum have suddenly lost three very valuable consensus POE chops. this is going to make the scum scramble and force themselves into positions that they might not otherwise have

Yeah

Legit think Alison is frozen

I made the joke but I don’t think alison has ever been frozen in her life

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:39 am i'm confused about the claim that alison is "frozen" when she hasn't posted. if she hasn't posted isn't it possible that's asleep, or distracted, or etc?

i'm far from opposed to considering an alison scum!world, but that seems like a leap

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:39 am I am unbakable, unkillable, immune to poison dayvig arson and even unmodkillable. I have traveled through every plane in the multiverse ever since my spark ignited and all of my fights ended with overwhelming victory and crushing defeat for the wolves

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 amDk maybe too

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:39 am i'm confused about the claim that alison is "frozen" when she hasn't posted. if she hasn't posted isn't it possible that's asleep, or distracted, or etc?

i'm far from opposed to considering an alison scum!world, but that seems like a leap

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:40 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 amDk maybe too

Has he posted this late this game at all

I don’t remember any past like 10-11pm est but I might be wrong

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:41 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:40 am

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:36 amDk maybe too

Has he posted this late this game at all

I don’t remember any past like 10-11pm est but I might be wrong

they/them

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:43 am oh you meant this late like the time of day

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:24 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:20 am in light of me, made, michelle, and ellie all being town, it's obvious that the scum have been manipulating this game and pulling it into a certain narrative. i felt consistently throughout yesterday that something was "weird" about this game - and it's obvious now that the thing i found so weird was the fact that the scum was bruteforcing the POE into a specific direction

in my opinion, a reveal like this should make every town player here start their reads over from scratch & use that information to determine who's been pushing the game into a direction that's advantageous for scum

Or town have been hard pushing town

Either way I’m not starting from scratch lol

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:44 am alison, DOOM, koba, esooa, grogu, jagged, nanook, nutella, tutuu

there are almost certainly three scum in that pool.

this is not new information - but it helps me visualize my perspective if i lay the names out like that

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:46 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME gj ur obv!towning today btw

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:45 am Idk I don’t think “frozen cause they aren’t in thread” reads are that reliable usually, too many variables

More interesting to me is how people react, I agree with jay actually that doom had a weird/off kilter reaction, I wouldn’t go as far as saying outing but it definitely was uh

Not a matching vibe

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:46 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME gj ur obv!towning today btw

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:44 am alison, DOOM, koba, esooa, grogu, jagged, nanook, nutella, tutuu

there are almost certainly three scum in that pool.

this is not new information - but it helps me visualize my perspective if i lay the names out like that

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:47 am @esooa -

coming into today, you seemed especially certain that i was mafia

has learning that i'm town recontextualized your understanding of the game? has it made you consider a world where you could have been pocketed by someone pushing the same agenda?

it seems your focus is on tutuu, and that's a good avenue to explore today, but i'm especially curious about your thoughts in players like nutella/jagged/alison

Made wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:50 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:44 am alison, DOOM, koba, esooa, grogu, jagged, nanook, nutella, tutuu

there are almost certainly three scum in that pool.

this is not new information - but it helps me visualize my perspective if i lay the names out like that

in the world where koba is mafia, mafia realized I was probably a powerrole (they soft claimed right before EOD).
This is a point against tutuu as it would mean mafia figured i was mafia and didn't try to kill me, and instead tried to kill tutuu(???)

so therefore koba & tutuu are probably not mafia together

I think it's also fair to expect a sloppy mafia at this point as if michelle, me, spf were all not cleared, it would not hard to get any of us lynched.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:45 am Idk I don’t think “frozen cause they aren’t in thread” reads are that reliable usually, too many variables

More interesting to me is how people react, I agree with jay actually that doom had a weird/off kilter reaction, I wouldn’t go as far as saying outing but it definitely was uh

Not a matching vibe

Made wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:43 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:24 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:20 am in light of me, made, michelle, and ellie all being town, it's obvious that the scum have been manipulating this game and pulling it into a certain narrative. i felt consistently throughout yesterday that something was "weird" about this game - and it's obvious now that the thing i found so weird was the fact that the scum was bruteforcing the POE into a specific direction

in my opinion, a reveal like this should make every town player here start their reads over from scratch & use that information to determine who's been pushing the game into a direction that's advantageous for scum

Or town have been hard pushing town

Either way I’m not starting from scratch lol

okay, i'm just gonna brain dumping and see if we can build it into anything that makes sense
two scenaros:
Situation . Mafia has been running train on thread: JJJ,nutella, alison
Situation . Mafia has just been going with that flow: tutuu, nanook, grogu, doom

i'm starting to have real doubt about it being nutella wolf because:
1. that means they didn't give nutella the kill day one, which means they have probably an even townier person to give the kill (or they vig'd night one. Is there reason not to vig n1?)
2. Mac, Nanook, JJJ, LC, Tutuu, and Alison have all consistently ruled her out till this point. she deserves the win if this is the case tbh

in Situation the confusion we've felt has come from dissenting voice that just didn't make sense. Alison is good at logicing, if she's town, hopefully there's enough here for her to win it for us. if she's not town, then boom, got one. basically, @Alison solve the game or we're baking you (if ur not too busy, thx )

Doom has also been saying she has felt super confused this game, so that's not a green check but a point to weigh in her. Especially if we're in Situation and not Situation

I feel like confusion vibes more with a Situation but, someone made the point that this game maybe the kind of game that needs to be supported by analysis, and not just vibes. so again, @Alison , u got this!!! unless you don't in which case

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:52 am

Made wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:50 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:44 am alison, DOOM, koba, esooa, grogu, jagged, nanook, nutella, tutuu

there are almost certainly three scum in that pool.

this is not new information - but it helps me visualize my perspective if i lay the names out like that

in the world where koba is mafia, mafia realized I was probably a powerrole (they soft claimed right before EOD).
This is a point against tutuu as it would mean mafia figured i was a power role and didn't try to kill me, and instead tried to kill tutuu(???)

so therefore koba & tutuu are probably not mafia together

I think it's also fair to expect a sloppy mafia at this point as if michelle, me, spf were all not cleared, it would not hard to get any of us lynched.

mafia figured I was mafia

Wat now

Made wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:53 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:45 am Idk I don’t think “frozen cause they aren’t in thread” reads are that reliable usually, too many variables

More interesting to me is how people react, I agree with jay actually that doom had a weird/off kilter reaction, I wouldn’t go as far as saying outing but it definitely was uh

Not a matching vibe

we can no longer rely on vibes. this is now officially a
~ n o V I B E z o n e ~
I'm sure this is as much a disappointment to y'all as it is to me

if matching vibes were reliable, we wouldn't be so far off course

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:51 am Anything Jay says or pushes, consider me on the oppo side of.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:54 am

Made wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:43 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:24 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:20 am in light of me, made, michelle, and ellie all being town, it's obvious that the scum have been manipulating this game and pulling it into a certain narrative. i felt consistently throughout yesterday that something was "weird" about this game - and it's obvious now that the thing i found so weird was the fact that the scum was bruteforcing the POE into a specific direction

in my opinion, a reveal like this should make every town player here start their reads over from scratch & use that information to determine who's been pushing the game into a direction that's advantageous for scum

Or town have been hard pushing town

Either way I’m not starting from scratch lol

okay, i'm just gonna brain dumping and see if we can build it into anything that makes sense
two scenaros:
Situation . Mafia has been running train on thread: JJJ,nutella, alison
Situation . Mafia has just been going with that flow: tutuu, nanook, grogu, doom

i'm starting to have real doubt about it being nutella wolf because:
1. that means they didn't give nutella the kill day one, which means they have probably an even townier person to give the kill (or they vig'd night one. Is there reason not to vig n1?)
2. Mac, Nanook, JJJ, LC, Tutuu, and Alison have all consistently ruled her out till this point. she deserves the win if this is the case tbh

in Situation the confusion we've felt has come from dissenting voice that just didn't make sense. Alison is good at logicing, if she's town, hopefully there's enough here for her to win it for us. if she's not town, then boom, got one. basically, @Alison solve the game or we're baking you (if ur not too busy, thx )

Doom has also been saying she has felt super confused this game, so that's not a green check but a point to weigh in her. Especially if we're in Situation and not Situation

I feel like confusion vibes more with a Situation but, someone made the point that this game maybe the kind of game that needs to be supported by analysis, and not just vibes. so again, @Alison , u got this!!! unless you don't in which case

i am vibing with this post a lot, my friend. i love it

gun to head, i feel that situation is more likely than situation . we know that the town had a consensus POE that has been, more or less, 100% incorrect. it's possible for the town to have self-destructed and fallen into a bad consensus position, but occam's razor would tell us that the more likely situation is that there have been multiple active scum steering the game into a bad direction.

which means that, gth, the "go with the flow" world contains two scum at most, but my gut would tell me that it only has one.

the point about nutella is a good one, and i hadn't considered that at all. i would very much like to re-assess nutella today - she's been my strongest townread for the entirety of this game, and i would like to either catch her or be able to confidently lock her in as a "legacy" name that i can remove from my POE

since we only need to remove 3 names from that pool of nine, perhaps our time would be better spent today solidifying town names that we can feel confident about, as opposed to searching for scum teams

Esooa wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:53 am btw Grogu is turbo scummy now, cause one thing I liked about him was he had no care who died in "wifom valley," and that's suddenly become not so much a non-agenda where he doesn't care to push away from the mafia in there, but an extremely strong agenda, where he doesn't give a fuck cause everyone being scum read is town

Made wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:50 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:44 am alison, DOOM, koba, esooa, grogu, jagged, nanook, nutella, tutuu

there are almost certainly three scum in that pool.

this is not new information - but it helps me visualize my perspective if i lay the names out like that

in the world where koba is mafia, mafia realized I was probably a powerrole (they soft claimed right before EOD).
This is a point against tutuu as it would mean mafia figured i was mafia and didn't try to kill me, and instead tried to kill tutuu(???)

so therefore koba & tutuu are probably not mafia together

I think it's also fair to expect a sloppy mafia at this point as if michelle, me, spf were all not cleared, it would not hard to get any of us lynched.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:56 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:54 am

Made wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:43 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:24 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:20 am in light of me, made, michelle, and ellie all being town, it's obvious that the scum have been manipulating this game and pulling it into a certain narrative. i felt consistently throughout yesterday that something was "weird" about this game - and it's obvious now that the thing i found so weird was the fact that the scum was bruteforcing the POE into a specific direction

in my opinion, a reveal like this should make every town player here start their reads over from scratch & use that information to determine who's been pushing the game into a direction that's advantageous for scum

Or town have been hard pushing town

Either way I’m not starting from scratch lol

okay, i'm just gonna brain dumping and see if we can build it into anything that makes sense
two scenaros:
Situation . Mafia has been running train on thread: JJJ,nutella, alison
Situation . Mafia has just been going with that flow: tutuu, nanook, grogu, doom

i'm starting to have real doubt about it being nutella wolf because:
1. that means they didn't give nutella the kill day one, which means they have probably an even townier person to give the kill (or they vig'd night one. Is there reason not to vig n1?)
2. Mac, Nanook, JJJ, LC, Tutuu, and Alison have all consistently ruled her out till this point. she deserves the win if this is the case tbh

in Situation the confusion we've felt has come from dissenting voice that just didn't make sense. Alison is good at logicing, if she's town, hopefully there's enough here for her to win it for us. if she's not town, then boom, got one. basically, @Alison solve the game or we're baking you (if ur not too busy, thx )

Doom has also been saying she has felt super confused this game, so that's not a green check but a point to weigh in her. Especially if we're in Situation and not Situation

I feel like confusion vibes more with a Situation but, someone made the point that this game maybe the kind of game that needs to be supported by analysis, and not just vibes. so again, @Alison , u got this!!! unless you don't in which case

i am vibing with this post a lot, my friend. i love it

gun to head, i feel that situation is more likely than situation . we know that the town had a consensus POE that has been, more or less, 100% incorrect. it's possible for the town to have self-destructed and fallen into a bad consensus position, but occam's razor would tell us that the more likely situation is that there have been multiple active scum steering the game into a bad direction.

which means that, gth, the "go with the flow" world contains two scum at most, but my gut would tell me that it only has one.

the point about nutella is a good one, and i hadn't considered that at all. i would very much like to re-assess nutella today - she's been my strongest townread for the entirety of this game, and i would like to either catch her or be able to confidently lock her in as a "legacy" name that i can remove from my POE

since we only need to remove 3 names from that pool of nine, perhaps our time would be better spent today solidifying town names that we can feel confident about, as opposed to searching for scum teams

You have to remove four from nine. We have to get three mafia in five shots