Re: The Search for Quin [Night 2]
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 11:20 pm
Whoa, nice result. I was totally reading him as civ (though if I'd had time to read Epi's and MP's cases I might have reconsidered -- nice job guys)
Given sanmateo's role, this is a completely fabricated post. No confusion whatsoever.
speedchuck answered in earnest rather quickly but not too quickly. I like that.
I don't know what post is referenced here. MP?
This reinforces my view that birdwithteeth11 is good. Not focusing on the role material for a moment, I take notice of the pronoun: "they're." sanmateo might have subconsciously used a male pronoun here, but he used a plural one, which indicates unfamiliarity.
I am under the impression that sanmateo was distancing against his team rather than hunting down civilians. This was a prime opportunity to "suspect" bwt, but he didn't do that, even though he called bwt's plan (which was almost surely facetious) "a terrible plan."sanmateo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:59 pmyeah that seems like a terrible plan. none of what i've seen from the epi/LC thing moves me particularly. it's a bunch of tepid day 1 stuff. but more importantly, if getting into weird arguments in-game is really a recurring thing between them, then obviously we need to look elsewhere because anything coming from either of the two about the other one holds less weight.birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:22 amHow about this for a plan then? We lynch you today for your backtracking. If you flip civ, then we lynch Epig on Day 2 since he was clearly egging you on and trying to start something!![]()
This question is a small nod in Sloonei's favor. It didn't need to be asked.sanmateo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:04 pmwell there's already a bandwagon forming against long con so that seems like a great starting pointSloonei wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:02 pmwhere else shall we look?sanmateo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 5:59 pmyeah that seems like a terrible plan. none of what i've seen from the epi/LC thing moves me particularly. it's a bunch of tepid day 1 stuff. but more importantly, if getting into weird arguments in-game is really a recurring thing between them, then obviously we need to look elsewhere because anything coming from either of the two about the other one holds less weight.birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 10:22 amHow about this for a plan then? We lynch you today for your backtracking. If you flip civ, then we lynch Epig on Day 2 since he was clearly egging you on and trying to start something!![]()
Regarding the third box, we've already established that sanmateo knew LC was good. I do believe he was trying to distance from a teammate.sanmateo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 07, 2017 6:34 pm fuck it i'm just quoting every single post itt
alright, well this post is obviously an overreaction. that's approximately one half of the case against this guy, the other half being the meta stuff epignosis was talking about. i obviously don't know much about that but i think it's more important that this kind of conflict between these two has played out multiple times in previous games. i don't think there's much i can do by learning everyone's meta but i'd like to know more about the specifics of the previous installments of the epi/lc clasico.Spoiler: show
this is speedchuck's reaction to the post above, makes sense for a townie. sloonei also picked up on it immediately and questioned long con over several posts, because he's sloonei and he asks questions and shit. the otherfirst responder was mp, and he said epi was a town read, which i want him to elaborate on. i think epi's last post (the one about looking at other players) is very town-like but i'm mostly interested on why mp said that at that point in time.Spoiler: show
now this, *kisses fingers like chef boyardee* this is that sus shit. just piling onSpoiler: show
piling on... slightly more egregious because bwt said they think both are neutral reads. dragon and bird look scummier to me than LC based on thisSpoiler: show
This right here makes all of Sloonei, MP, and BWT look better to me.
Delicious.sanmateo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:57 am i think given what people have said about bird i wont vote for him today. sloonei threw out both of the posts that i singled out beforehand but he still seemed steadfast on voting for LC until i wrote that post. something doesn't really track there, i was taken aback by him being that easily convinced but it seemed like people were moving away from that bandwagon so it'd make sense that scum sloonei (scoomei?) would switch. if what he said about looking at bwt's claim in the same way as mp07 and epignosis is true, then why wouldnt he vote for dragon from the start?
that's less simple than the reason i suspect dragon, so it feels less likely to be true. thus im probably voting for dragon. but my uni canceled classes today so i have time to spare
If sanmateo's definition of "bandwagon" is to even mention suspicion of someone after someone else, then lots of us are guilty of "bandwagoning." Why single out DDL? And how would doing it twice make anybody suspicious?sanmateo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:23 pm i'm looking at this mp bandwagon and it just looks like bullshit. if he's scum spacedaisy is probably scum as well but it's not exactly a solid vote. wilgy's vote could literally mean anything. and ddl has once again gone on a bandwagon, i understand that he's sequestered meeting family, friends and loved ones and he can't yell at strangers online (aka the best thing in the world) or whatever, but am i going insane? he's done this twice
These posts are opening a window to abandon his DDL vote if the tally renders it necessary.sanmateo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:08 pm alright well, i might change it because at least ddl kind of said why they were voting for mp. i suppose i could be overlooking mp's tells but has anyone even made a case against him? voting for lurkers isnt really that sus. the LC bandwagon made more sense and that was pretty weak
You didn't call me honest. You called me logical.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:19 pmI've already explained my point. I don't need to agree with someone's read to think they are being honest.
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 5:11 pm
Pls, @everyone, what do you think of my case on spacedaisy?
Bearing in mind that any of the above could be fake news, the standout clues to me are "turning up in a field" and "the air felt cool around Quin."JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 9:06 pm Quin Search
The team caught a break when a new witnessed emerge, or at least they hoped it would be a break. She reported being stuck under Quin's incredibly indecent gaze for some time, as though in a trance. After turning up in a field on her own, wandering aimlessly and tirelessly, her mind was not in a normal place. All she could remember for sure was that the air felt cool around Quin. She was terribly shaken by the ordeal.
Find Quin.
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Why didn't it occur to you to say this when he started trying to get you lynched?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:34 pm Isn't it just possible that sanmateo was latching on me because he wanted to have someone he could vote for over and over so péople thought he was scumhunting when he wasn't?
Someone who gets suspected by a lot of people often so that wouldn't draw much attention to him?
Not really. If that was his strategy, it's also just as likely that he could end up being accused of tunneling. And that one usually never ends well if the person is wrong.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:34 pm Isn't it just possible that sanmateo was latching on me because he wanted to have someone he could vote for over and over so péople thought he was scumhunting when he wasn't?
Someone who gets suspected by a lot of people often so that wouldn't draw much attention to him?
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:42 pmNot really. If that was his strategy, it's also just as likely that he could end up being accused of tunneling. And that one usually never ends well if the person is wrong.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:34 pm Isn't it just possible that sanmateo was latching on me because he wanted to have someone he could vote for over and over so péople thought he was scumhunting when he wasn't?
Someone who gets suspected by a lot of people often so that wouldn't draw much attention to him?
Or give him another sausage sandwich.
Because I didn't think of it at the time?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:39 pmWhy didn't it occur to you to say this when he started trying to get you lynched?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:34 pm Isn't it just possible that sanmateo was latching on me because he wanted to have someone he could vote for over and over so péople thought he was scumhunting when he wasn't?
Someone who gets suspected by a lot of people often so that wouldn't draw much attention to him?
Fine by me. Who's on the top, middle, and bottom between the 3 of us then?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:49 pmOr give him another sausage sandwich.
That was the clue that should have taken us to New South Wales in the first place.![]()
I've tunneled all the time as a civ. And in some of them survived until the end. Tunneling is hardly a baddie tell.birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:42 pmNot really. If that was his strategy, it's also just as likely that he could end up being accused of tunneling. And that one usually never ends well if the person is wrong.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:34 pm Isn't it just possible that sanmateo was latching on me because he wanted to have someone he could vote for over and over so péople thought he was scumhunting when he wasn't?
Someone who gets suspected by a lot of people often so that wouldn't draw much attention to him?
The only way I don't see that occurring is if you are connected.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:54 pmBecause I didn't think of it at the time?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:39 pmWhy didn't it occur to you to say this when he started trying to get you lynched?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:34 pm Isn't it just possible that sanmateo was latching on me because he wanted to have someone he could vote for over and over so péople thought he was scumhunting when he wasn't?
Someone who gets suspected by a lot of people often so that wouldn't draw much attention to him?
I am not constantly analysing every possible motivation for every person who accuses me.
This says "quarry." It should probably say "quarrel," but it doesn't.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Sep 06, 2017 9:00 pmDay 1
Australia's most dedicated investigators are on the case. Quin is on the loose, and it will take a coordinated national effort to track him down. The top minds came together at the newly established Headquarters of the Quin Search in Sunshine Coast. The discussion was heated from the start, passions elevated by the terribly indecent nature of their quarry and the necessity to determine his location immediately. Much time was wasted however when presenters promoted numerous leads in Queensland. They'd seemed promising at first, but it quickly became evident that there was nothing there. Eventually the team found their start in New South Wales.
It is Day 1. This phase will last 48 hours.
No, seriously.birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:55 pmFine by me. Who's on the top, middle, and bottom between the 3 of us then?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:49 pmOr give him another sausage sandwich.
That was the clue that should have taken us to New South Wales in the first place.![]()
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Maybe but my day doesn't have 36 hours so I can't play it perfectly.birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:56 pmThe only way I don't see that occurring is if you are connected.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:54 pmBecause I didn't think of it at the time?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:39 pmWhy didn't it occur to you to say this when he started trying to get you lynched?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:34 pm Isn't it just possible that sanmateo was latching on me because he wanted to have someone he could vote for over and over so péople thought he was scumhunting when he wasn't?
Someone who gets suspected by a lot of people often so that wouldn't draw much attention to him?
I am not constantly analysing every possible motivation for every person who accuses me.
Isn't that the point of what mafia is about?![]()
So uncultured.birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:55 pmFine by me. Who's on the top, middle, and bottom between the 3 of us then?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:49 pmOr give him another sausage sandwich.
That was the clue that should have taken us to New South Wales in the first place.![]()
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THIS IS VILEQuin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:45 pmSo uncultured.birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:55 pmFine by me. Who's on the top, middle, and bottom between the 3 of us then?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:49 pmOr give him another sausage sandwich.
That was the clue that should have taken us to New South Wales in the first place.![]()
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And it's not a sausage sandwich, it's a sausage in bread.
what are you doing instead?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:54 pmBecause I didn't think of it at the time?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:39 pmWhy didn't it occur to you to say this when he started trying to get you lynched?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:34 pm Isn't it just possible that sanmateo was latching on me because he wanted to have someone he could vote for over and over so péople thought he was scumhunting when he wasn't?
Someone who gets suspected by a lot of people often so that wouldn't draw much attention to him?
I am not constantly analysing every possible motivation for every person who accuses me.
Harmless jab, playful retort.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:57 pmHow are we supposed to lynch people without bandwagons?sanmateo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:23 pm i'm looking at this mp bandwagon and it just looks like bullshit. if he's scum spacedaisy is probably scum as well but it's not exactly a solid vote. wilgy's vote could literally mean anything. and ddl has once again gone on a bandwagon, i understand that he's sequestered meeting family, friends and loved ones and he can't yell at strangers online (aka the best thing in the world) or whatever, but am i going insane? he's done this twice
Besides I like to think I started this one.
Follow-up inquiry. The interaction in these two posts can easily be read as two scum partners trying to put a little bit of distance between themselves on Day 1. I don't sense much urgency in DDL's questioning here, but that could be the tunnel vision.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2017 6:59 pm And it could be arfued that you [sanmateo] are taking part of this ddl bandwagon that is looming over us. So what about that?
This is the sirengif post. I just spent my entire time in Street Fighter using this exact line on my partner in Simon. "I have no idea how to read himDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:46 pm I have no idea how to read sanmateo. He did accuse me a few times and I argued that back, but other than that he has been kind of a non factor in this game, so I don't remember him really much. I usually suspect people who are like that tbh. But I'm sticking with Nutella.
This also is not a great look for DDL. The same sort of timid shrug is being reciprocated by sanmateo here. "I could be suspicious of DDL, but meh."sanmateo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:08 pm alright well, i might change it because at least ddl kind of said why they were voting for mp. i suppose i could be overlooking mp's tells but has anyone even made a case against him? voting for lurkers isnt really that sus. the LC bandwagon made more sense and that was pretty weak
This is not great, but I don't suspect her for it either. Sanmateo was not really on anyone's radar prior to the final hours of yesterday, and making an incorrect guess early in a game is hardly incriminating. That said, I would like to know what prompted this town read on sanmateo, nutella?
Hey Serge, no sweat. All I care about is hearing what you have to say. Even if your thoughts aren't fully formed or if you're not caught up yet. Any slight impressions you get when you look out over the thread would be hella cool right now.
Daisy was on this DDL/sanmateo thing before it was even a thing. Good look, I think. Or a super early busser. I'm gonna go with the former, but not dismiss the latter entirely.Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:55 pm I'm looking at a sanmateo/DDL teammate pairing with that last post by DDL.
birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:45 pm I'm sticking with my vote fwiw.
F**k you MP. Fine, I'll do a rainbow read even though I don't care for these things.
Moderate Town:
MP
BWT
Slight Town:
Epig
Sloonei
SD
Null:
Dom
DDL
Wilgy
NewTraditionalist
Nutella[
sanmateo
Serge/b]
Slight Scum:
LC
Moderate Scum:
speedchuck
Quin, I'm nking you 1st next time I can.Quin wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 9:45 pmSo uncultured.birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:55 pmFine by me. Who's on the top, middle, and bottom between the 3 of us then?Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:49 pmOr give him another sausage sandwich.
That was the clue that should have taken us to New South Wales in the first place.![]()
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And it's not a sausage sandwich, it's a sausage in bread.