The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:11 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:06 pm @Marmot has not made a single post that I can't see coming from a mafia member. That's not a very good look. I also don't really know where he stands on anything. He just keeps self-voting and making small observations here and there.

I mean, yeah. I could say the same thing about INH, LoRab, SpaceDaisy, Wilgy, and to a lesser extent Kyle.

Hey @Kylemii! Remember a few days ago when you were gung-ho about making ISOs for people in the immediate aftermath of your upchuck party? What happened to that?

I know you’re insanified for some reason and we’ve at least got GTH of people, but I’d really like to know what your strongest pull is.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:17 pm anticlimax Kylemii?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:17 pm @Scotty Lucy Saxon did you choose to plainspoken insertnamehere and anticlimax Kylemii?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 1:57 pm [quote=Scotty post_id=416847 time=<a href="tel:1520010705">1520010705</a> user_id=410]
[quote=Sloonei post_id=416845 time=<a href="tel:1520010374">1520010374</a> user_id=405]
@Marmot has not made a single post that I can't see coming from a mafia member. That's not a very good look. I also don't really know where he stands on anything. He just keeps self-voting and making small observations here and there.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:48 pmI haven’t the slightest idea what you mean.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:03 pm @scotty rephrasing, why athleticism you guinde insertnamehere was insanified? why do sudorific bea i Human insanified?

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:09 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:03 pm @scotty rephrasing, why athleticism you guinde insertnamehere was insanified? why do sudorific bea i Human insanified?

I’m sorry dude, I meant it as tongue-in-cheek.

I do understand you, I just don’t know what qualifies as infodumping. Ya dig?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:23 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:09 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:03 pm @scotty rephrasing, why athleticism you guinde insertnamehere was insanified? why do sudorific bea i Human insanified?

I’m sorry dude, I meant it as tongue-in-cheek.

I do understand you, I just don’t know what qualifies as infodumping. Ya dig?

i dig

we swartliness what your livret was and we know who you targeted, enthrall why you did so wouldn't Big Daddy (Bouncer) info dumping, how would bigsimpsin be info dumping?

if you're really concerned you could ask golden or MetalMarsh if it's okay

unshared gotta go to balloonery firstclass arr! i'll be back in 8 hours and 40 awestricken

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 23, 2018 10:50 pm I was the original Button Pusher in CC-123. It redistributed all the roles in the game. Pushing the button is a good idea any time, anywhere. Push it real good.

Oh yes... push that button real Good! OH~

Hi everyone. My name is DrWilgy and at long last... I'm finally a doctor.

How are we?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:32 pm JoH is civilian. Tell me why I think this.

Golden wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:29 pm People may speculate or assume, but it would be infodumping to outright confirm that any particular effect in the game was caused by your role, even if you have died and your former role is known publicly.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:55 pm Taking the easy way out on Wilgy, I see.

But yeah, that'll keep happening until he starts being the Wilgy I know our Wilgy can be. It's too easy but it's not necessarily wrong and I'm not really feeling my old reads that much.

I guess I'd lynch Spacedaisy as an alternative but that's probably an easy way out too.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:56 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:55 pm Taking the easy way out on Wilgy, I see.

But yeah, that'll keep happening until he starts being the Wilgy I know our Wilgy can be. It's too easy but it's not necessarily wrong and I'm not really feeling my old reads that much.

I guess I'd lynch Spacedaisy as an alternative but that's probably an easy way out too.

No one has said a word about suspecting spacedaisy. Where did this come from?

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:25 pm [VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine

Let's see that full townie effort.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:21 pm I speculate that the mafia killed Scotty.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:45 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:21 pm I speculate that the mafia killed Scotty.

Did you kill Scotty?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:32 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 5:25 pm [VOTE: JackofHearts] aubergine

Let's see that full townie effort.

Ugh.

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:40 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:32 pm JoH is civilian. Tell me why I think this.

Why you think this.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:29 pm Lynching wilgy when he's allegedly silenced doesn't feel right though. I'm gonna switch my aubergine to marmot.
vote marmot

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:44 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:29 pm Lynching wilgy when he's allegedly silenced doesn't feel right though. I'm gonna switch my aubergine to marmot.
vote marmot

What scenario do you see more likely? That the silencer forgot/chose not to use their power N1 or that Wilgy is faking it?

If the former, who in this group would be wont to hold off early? I guess so as not to stifle discussion?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:41 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:44 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:29 pm Lynching wilgy when he's allegedly silenced doesn't feel right though. I'm gonna switch my aubergine to marmot.
vote marmot

What scenario do you see more likely? That the silencer forgot/chose not to use their power N1 or that Wilgy is faking it?

If the former, who in this group would be wont to hold off early? I guess so as not to stifle discussion?

I don't know. But I'd prefer to vote for a person right now who's going to respond to me.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:44 pm I showed up at work, worked for an hour, and then we lost power. So now I'm just sitting around on my phone with nothig to do.

Jack feels town to me. His suspicion of me feels genuine. He's not overdoing it and he's not straining to manipulate others to see his point of view; he's just stating his concerns and talking about things. He's probably my strongest town read in the thread.
Daisy and I mind-melded a couple of times early on and that also got me feeling good about her. She's been absent for a while now. I don't necessarily hold thay against her, but it's prevented any of us from developing our reads against her.
Scotty's first role feels indie to me. I'm still not sure what that would mean for his second role, but I've liked his presence today. He feels like he's solving the game.
I wanted to focus on Kyle today, but he's insanified so that can't really happen effectively.

Marmot and INH are the two players I should probably turn my focus to next. With a gun to my head, I'd call INH a civilian and Marmot scum, but I've done minimal homework on either of them.
Blooper died Night 1 and I've kind of been giving her a pass since then. Her death leads me to believe that she was town in her first life and would presumably come back the same alignment (maybe), but she hasn't said a whole lot either. She could be looked at some more as well.

I could vote for wilgy. I also still have lingering doubts about sig, boomslang, and LoRab, but none of them jump out as strong suspects.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:36 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 7:44 pm I showed up at work, worked for an hour, and then we lost power. So now I'm just sitting around on my phone with nothig to do.

Jack feels town to me. His suspicion of me feels genuine. He's not overdoing it and he's not straining to manipulate others to see his point of view; he's just stating his concerns and talking about things. He's probably my strongest town read in the thread.
Daisy and I mind-melded a couple of times early on and that also got me feeling good about her. She's been absent for a while now. I don't necessarily hold thay against her, but it's prevented any of us from developing our reads against her.
Scotty's first role feels indie to me. I'm still not sure what that would mean for his second role, but I've liked his presence today. He feels like he's solving the game.
I wanted to focus on Kyle today, but he's insanified so that can't really happen effectively.

Marmot and INH are the two players I should probably turn my focus to next. With a gun to my head, I'd call INH a civilian and Marmot scum, but I've done minimal homework on either of them.
Blooper died Night 1 and I've kind of been giving her a pass since then. Her death leads me to believe that she was town in her first life and would presumably come back the same alignment (maybe), but she hasn't said a whole lot either. She could be looked at some more as well.

I could vote for wilgy. I also still have lingering doubts about sig, boomslang, and LoRab, but none of them jump out as strong suspects.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 28, 2018 7:51 pm Hell, if we keep it up spreadin the vote, we may never lynch anyone until the merge.

May not be a bad idea...I would like to at least make the merge with you fine people

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 8:17 pm If we ever want to lynch someone we will need more votes than the other tribe, which means more consensus. I’d still treat this as a D1. I hate D1s but someone should go, cause someone be killing and I’m pissed

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:50 pm Wilgy self voting telling us he is silenced.

Huh.

Didn’t know we had a silencer. Where was the silencer D2? Did someone not post in D2?

I don’t buy it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 03, 2018 12:06 pm Game balance thought:

Golden has said the tribes are randomly split- whether or not that incorporates mafia randomly splitting or not is to be seen. If so, and they’re all over here, then garshnoodawump.

But a bigger dilemma lies in the 2nd role payout. The rules state that if a mafia member dies in the 1st role, then they retain their win condition. But this isn’t necessarily the reverse...which means it should be no surprise that a dead civ in the first role can then become mafia. This brings up a lot of questions balance-wise that I’m sure golden has accounted for:
-would this influx be accounted for in the beginning?
-Does it even iself out towards end game?
-Would the 2nd role iteration be a separate mafia faction?

If there are, say, 4 mafia split between 23 people with 2-3 indies thrown in for extra measure, that seems like a pretty good 2nd Role split.
So where do the 1st role alignments stand? Are there perhaps 3 mafia at the beginning with the potential for a guaranteed mafia member to be recruited via their second life? And what if there were just as many civs as indies in 1st role? So like 7-8 LMS roles where if you die it’s like ‘oh well, I tried, now I’m a fucking stump.’
I don’t foresee 2 different mafia teams, but weirder things have happened. So far we haven’t even seen alignments and won’t for some time unless we (nijuu and I) are lynched.

So I’m broadening my horizons here with this 2 life mechanic. I think there are less mafia now to make up for an addition of 1-2 more along the way. There’s no real way of knowing from one role to the other aside from good ole fashioned vote analysis and tonal discrepancies.
I don’t see is having a serial killer type role yet, seeing as 2 night’s Gabe gone by with only one kill apiece. I’m not sure a SK would have kept it in their pants this long (maybe I’m wrong). This is NOT to say that an SK won’t be assumed in the 2nd Role phase..this might also be a balancing mechanism to outweigh a burgeoning mafia team of, say, 5.

It’s going to be quite unfulfilling to have to wait through all these roles being killed without alignment shown.