The Syndicate

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:09 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:58 pm Roxy

fingersplints
Lemonfairy

DrWilgy
Dennis

falcon45ca

SixStrings
Matahari

Neon

Epignosis

I'm not completely sure why Fingersplints ended up so high, but it is what it is. I'd like to see more from both SixStrings and Matahari because I feel like they are both pretty much null all this point.

Wait, what?



Why is fingers TR "is what it is"?



Why don't you question lemons placement as well?

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:14 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:37 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:24 pm Explain the 2 votes on me at start of day immediately

Your tail is showing.

Last time you said this I flipped town. How many more until you realize your reads on me are just bad?

Or perhaps you are woofin?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:20 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:14 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:37 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:24 pm Explain the 2 votes on me at start of day immediately

Your tail is showing.

Last time you said this I flipped town. How many more until you realize your reads on me are just bad?

Or perhaps you are woofin?

You said this... emulating my town play. This game. Your tail is showing.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:09 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:20 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:14 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:37 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:24 pm Explain the 2 votes on me at start of day immediately

Your tail is showing.

Last time you said this I flipped town. How many more until you realize your reads on me are just bad?

Or perhaps you are woofin?

You said this... emulating my town play. This game. Your tail is showing.

I'd love to play a game with you.

If I flip town you never get to read me ever again.

Wanna play?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:13 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:09 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:20 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:14 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:37 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:24 pm Explain the 2 votes on me at start of day immediately

Your tail is showing.

Last time you said this I flipped town. How many more until you realize your reads on me are just bad?

Or perhaps you are woofin?

You said this... emulating my town play. This game. Your tail is showing.

I'd love to play a game with you.

If I flip town you never get to read me ever again.

Wanna play?

Flipcup Neon edition as stated is currently one-sided, so the game theorist in me refuses to play. What do I get if I win?

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:16 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:13 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:09 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:20 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:14 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:37 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:24 pm Explain the 2 votes on me at start of day immediately

Your tail is showing.

Last time you said this I flipped town. How many more until you realize your reads on me are just bad?

Or perhaps you are woofin?

You said this... emulating my town play. This game. Your tail is showing.

I'd love to play a game with you.

If I flip town you never get to read me ever again.

Wanna play?

Flipcup Neon edition as stated is currently one-sided, so the game theorist in me refuses to play. What do I get if I win?

I will inform everyone of your greatness and sheep you for all eternity

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:34 pm So,

Who's the wolf between Epi, Splints?
Which one in Lemonfairy, Mata, Roxy?
And lastly which one in Dennis, SixStrings, or Seanzie?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm Bike mafia was my first game on TS, and so while it was awhile ago (not long compared to OGs but whatever), I remember it well. This is actually reminding me a bit of it. I think perhaps I gave epi too much credit early on.

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:24 pm Explain the 2 votes on me at start of day immediately

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:56 pm All right, time to head to bed.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:20 ammeh. Bedtime.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:28 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:34 pm So,

Who's the wolf between Epi, Splints?
Which one in Lemonfairy, Mata, Roxy?
And lastly which one in Dennis, SixStrings, or Seanzie?

Splints
This one is tough, kinda tr them all, but I'd go with Mata
Seanzie

First one is cause I think there's a difference check in epi/seanzie and I'm more confident in seanzie (see bottom)

Mata is just the lowest townread cause of lack of content. Also in Muppets they were like shining town in their first 4 posts and that isn't here, but I'm not holding that against them cause imagine having to do that

Between six and seanzie, they both kinda look bad to me. Six's vote in particular made me like genuinely gape because it was so vague, he hadn't expressed a suspicion on syn before, and as a newbie wolf it's just a way to place your vote for a miselim and hide in the crowd

Seanzie had a couple posts that really made me ick in D2 when they were fighting with epi, but this one in particular

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm Bike mafia was my first game on TS, and so while it was awhile ago (not long compared to OGs but whatever), I remember it well. This is actually reminding me a bit of it. I think perhaps I gave epi too much credit early on.

Pretty much stabbed me in my heart and killed me. The way the last sentence reads to me is "someone's rejected my pockets they must die"

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 1:15 am *pokes thread with stick*

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:30 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:28 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:34 pm So,

Who's the wolf between Epi, Splints?
Which one in Lemonfairy, Mata, Roxy?
And lastly which one in Dennis, SixStrings, or Seanzie?

Splints
This one is tough, kinda tr them all, but I'd go with Mata
Seanzie

First one is cause I think there's a difference check in epi/seanzie and I'm more confident in seanzie (see bottom)

Mata is just the lowest townread cause of lack of content. Also in Muppets they were like shining town in their first 4 posts and that isn't here, but I'm not holding that against them cause imagine having to do that

Between six and seanzie, they both kinda look bad to me. Six's vote in particular made me like genuinely gape because it was so vague, he hadn't expressed a suspicion on syn before, and as a newbie wolf it's just a way to place your vote for a miselim and hide in the crowd

Seanzie had a couple posts that really made me ick in D2 when they were fighting with epi, but this one in particular

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm Bike mafia was my first game on TS, and so while it was awhile ago (not long compared to OGs but whatever), I remember it well. This is actually reminding me a bit of it. I think perhaps I gave epi too much credit early on.

Pretty much stabbed me in my heart and killed me. The way the last sentence reads to me is "someone's rejected my pockets they must die"

Idk man, you didn't see Epi come at me in Bike.

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:33 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:30 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:28 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:34 pm So,

Who's the wolf between Epi, Splints?
Which one in Lemonfairy, Mata, Roxy?
And lastly which one in Dennis, SixStrings, or Seanzie?

Splints
This one is tough, kinda tr them all, but I'd go with Mata
Seanzie

First one is cause I think there's a difference check in epi/seanzie and I'm more confident in seanzie (see bottom)

Mata is just the lowest townread cause of lack of content. Also in Muppets they were like shining town in their first 4 posts and that isn't here, but I'm not holding that against them cause imagine having to do that

Between six and seanzie, they both kinda look bad to me. Six's vote in particular made me like genuinely gape because it was so vague, he hadn't expressed a suspicion on syn before, and as a newbie wolf it's just a way to place your vote for a miselim and hide in the crowd

Seanzie had a couple posts that really made me ick in D2 when they were fighting with epi, but this one in particular

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm Bike mafia was my first game on TS, and so while it was awhile ago (not long compared to OGs but whatever), I remember it well. This is actually reminding me a bit of it. I think perhaps I gave epi too much credit early on.

Pretty much stabbed me in my heart and killed me. The way the last sentence reads to me is "someone's rejected my pockets they must die"

Idk man, you didn't see Epi come at me in Bike.

No I suppose not

How would you describe his game there, as I go and check it out

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:34 am Anways, Epi is old news. @Dennis what are your thoughts on Neon, girl of the 21st century?

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:34 am Anways, Epi is old news. @Dennis what are your thoughts on Neon, girl of the 21st century?

She's been her normal self, nothing significant she's done really comes to mind except for that "explain votes" post

I don't know why, but I'm not entirely sure town Neon worries about that. Kinda weirded me out, but overall town

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:46 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:37 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:34 am Anways, Epi is old news. @Dennis what are your thoughts on Neon, girl of the 21st century?

She's been her normal self, nothing significant she's done really comes to mind except for that "explain votes" post

I don't know why, but I'm not entirely sure town Neon worries about that. Kinda weirded me out, but overall town

Have you ever seen scum!Neon?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:36 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:33 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:30 am

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:28 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:34 pm So,

Who's the wolf between Epi, Splints?
Which one in Lemonfairy, Mata, Roxy?
And lastly which one in Dennis, SixStrings, or Seanzie?

Splints
This one is tough, kinda tr them all, but I'd go with Mata
Seanzie

First one is cause I think there's a difference check in epi/seanzie and I'm more confident in seanzie (see bottom)

Mata is just the lowest townread cause of lack of content. Also in Muppets they were like shining town in their first 4 posts and that isn't here, but I'm not holding that against them cause imagine having to do that

Between six and seanzie, they both kinda look bad to me. Six's vote in particular made me like genuinely gape because it was so vague, he hadn't expressed a suspicion on syn before, and as a newbie wolf it's just a way to place your vote for a miselim and hide in the crowd

Seanzie had a couple posts that really made me ick in D2 when they were fighting with epi, but this one in particular

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm Bike mafia was my first game on TS, and so while it was awhile ago (not long compared to OGs but whatever), I remember it well. This is actually reminding me a bit of it. I think perhaps I gave epi too much credit early on.

Pretty much stabbed me in my heart and killed me. The way the last sentence reads to me is "someone's rejected my pockets they must die"

Idk man, you didn't see Epi come at me in Bike.

No I suppose not

How would you describe his game there, as I go and check it out

He went after LHF me in a wolfy way, which is what reminded me of this game, however I've kind of softened on this stance. I have my eye on him still, but there are some things this game that felt different than that game.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:20 pm

Spoiler: show

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 4:30 pm This game state is the worst I've seen in a while.

2 town wagons. People being too busy telling each other how amazing they are to look at the actual game state and realize the thread is in shambles. Town probably already lost there's no cohesion

So that's cool.

I'd love to build a town core but this is all I got

DrWilgy
Neon
S~V~S
Syn

I'm pretty confident in this town core. I'd love to solve a game of mafia.

Let's talk @S~V~S you are either mafia caught for the wrong reasons early and your team came with a hard defense of you early that every other town bought into OR more likely you are just thread spewed town.

If you are mafia that will become so easily and readily apparent so I'm happy to assume you are town for now. IF we assume that you are town than do you think it's more likely that woofers pocketed the fuck out of you by defending you? Or that woofers sit in the extremely limited voices that dared question a post in a thread in a game of mafia?

I know which one I dare say the woofers are in. Somebody is pocketing you SVS. Who is it?



And let's talk about reading into a post made in the thread. It is my duty as a player in this game to analyze the content of the thread. I do not regret and will never apologize for reading into a post. I still find it odd. I still find the extremely overly enthusiastic defense of SVS from 75 angles at once odd.

OK, this is where I left off when I got in my car. I haven't read past this although I see there are quite a few posts.

Like I said, I also think you and Wilgy are town.

As for the pocketing, oh yeah, there was a whole lot of that going on. Everyone except you and syn, for sure, and I might give it to Lemon too. It was gratifying but I don't think I much took it into account.

This was my last reads post, changes/modifications in pink:

S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Apr 06, 2023 6:10 pm I want to thank everyone for all the pocketing, and since almost everyone did it, I feel refreshingly uninfluenced by it.

Some things so far have not changed for me. I lean civ on Neon. I lean more wolfy on syn than I did this AM, mainly for the stated desire to go after low posters on Day One. Those folks have the same odds of randing civ as any of us, and if they're town, force the woofs to NK them if they want to win. Or sort them later in the POE.

Otherwise, my only experience with syn is Party Crasher, which is no experience at all. I'm sure they got a better look at my game than I got at theirs. So I'm more likely to rely on the opinions of others re syn.

I am conflicted on syn. That is kinda wrapped up in Lemon for me. I searched her iso for 'Syn" and there were 31 results; of those about 10 were clear statements of "I townread Syn".

I am going to reread Splints, her posts seem a bit ... I dunno, following the crowd a bit? I am still feeling a bit squidgy about Splints. Not towncore, but not convinced of wolfiness.

I always think Dennis is bad, lol, but I'm warming up to his game here. @Dennis , I saw you posted on Splints, on the fact that she is posting at all being AI. What do you think of what she is saying? Dennis has moved to civ side for me

I saw Sixes reply, and I'm still processing it. It seemed sincere, but I'm not sure it answered my question. So not my likeliest vote as of now, but not my least likely either. I saw his response to my "?", but not sure I believed it

No real opinion on Falcon yet, I misread him alot when I first started playing with him so i'm fairly cautious about him, and i haven't found any hooks or tells that help me sort him as of yet. @Neon I would have to rely on your read here, and possibly Seans, as he always looks exactly the same to me

I feel pretty good about Sean, mainly tone, no other reason. He seems very laid back, relaxed. Not the same as he felt in GOC where we were bad teammates. Samesies

Epi had zero reason as a baddie to point out what he did about my reaction to a host post. He can fool me better than most, but as of now, as I said, I don't see why he would bother making the post he did if he was bad. Also same

Same for Wilgy, and his level of solve is good, and he isn't posting go along to get along opinions. I'm not as sure about Lemon as he is, I still think Lemon was sincere in his reasons for pushing me. Lemon doesn't know me, and in addition to being OG, I have always been a bit quixotic even back in the day. I learned my lesson about judging people based on stylistic differences in the Anni game. I am more conflicted on Lemon than I was, all those overt defenses of syn for pretty much 'vibes' ; I think I need to sort this out.

Mata is incredibly insightful, and i hope she brings some of that. @Matahari come play with us. I haven't read her more recent posts, but when she answered me earlier, I was not thoroughly reassured. Her answer re Splints was a bit slippery, but historically, Mata is a hard read for me.

Roxy is also a bit of a question mark for me; she graciously defended me, but I am looking forward to hearing her suspects, or her town, or her reads in general. I find she is very insightful and gets to the crux of the matter, without pulling any punches. I feel better about Roxy, her reads seemed genuine and she didn't seem to be pulling back.

At this stage, I most want to sort how I feel about Lemon/Syn. I personally suspected Syn more, but i also don't want him to feel 'mean girled' out of the thread. So if he really wants out, I'm OK with that. I would like to see what Neon is seeing re Syn to townread him, as I would think she has experience there where I don't .

I don't understand the case on Falcon; can someone explain it to me? Of the other people with votes, I won't be voting for Epi or Neon.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:09 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:58 pm Roxy

fingersplints
Lemonfairy

DrWilgy
Dennis

falcon45ca

SixStrings
Matahari

Neon

Epignosis

I'm not completely sure why Fingersplints ended up so high, but it is what it is. I'd like to see more from both SixStrings and Matahari because I feel like they are both pretty much null all this point.

Wait, what?



Why is fingers TR "is what it is"?



Why don't you question lemons placement as well?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:09 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:58 pm Roxy

fingersplints
Lemonfairy

DrWilgy
Dennis

falcon45ca

SixStrings
Matahari

Neon

Epignosis

I'm not completely sure why Fingersplints ended up so high, but it is what it is. I'd like to see more from both SixStrings and Matahari because I feel like they are both pretty much null all this point.

Wait, what?



Why is fingers TR "is what it is"?



Why don't you question lemons placement as well?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:19 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:16 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:13 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:09 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:20 am

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 12:14 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:37 pm

Your tail is showing.

Last time you said this I flipped town. How many more until you realize your reads on me are just bad?

Or perhaps you are woofin?

You said this... emulating my town play. This game. Your tail is showing.

I'd love to play a game with you.

If I flip town you never get to read me ever again.

Wanna play?

Flipcup Neon edition as stated is currently one-sided, so the game theorist in me refuses to play. What do I get if I win?

I will inform everyone of your greatness and sheep you for all eternity

Deal.

Everyone, we need to flip Neon.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:34 am Anways, Epi is old news. @Dennis what are your thoughts on Neon, girl of the 21st century?

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:59 am Oh yeah and the NK

I mean who doesn't kill SVS there

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:46 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:59 am Oh yeah and the NK

I mean who doesn't kill SVS there

Me

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:04 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:46 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:59 am Oh yeah and the NK

I mean who doesn't kill SVS there

Me

I'd elim this.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:31 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:42 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 6:05 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 07, 2023 11:35 am GTH. No sorting within groups.

S~V~S
Epignosis
Roxy

fingersplints

Lemonfairy
DrWilgy

falcon45ca
Neon
SixStrings

Dennis
Matahari

Syn

What have I done to earn a spot of there?

Somebody else had me up top too.

You're a polarized noob. Or I'm pocketing you. Your choice.

Don't know where to begin with this. I don't know what the first thing means. I suspect you and falcon, so I'm not in your pocket. I'm not choosing anything.

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:15 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:04 pm

Neon wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:46 pm

Dennis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 11:59 am Oh yeah and the NK

I mean who doesn't kill SVS there

Me

I'd elim this.

You'd elim me every game

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:50 pm The problem here is that you have me at the top of your list and you are accusing me of going after left handed fiddlers.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm A part of me wishes to applaud the lack of shits given regarding consistency.

Another part is dying to defenestrate you.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm Bike mafia was my first game on TS, and so while it was awhile ago (not long compared to OGs but whatever), I remember it well. This is actually reminding me a bit of it. I think perhaps I gave epi too much credit early on.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:10 pm I thought my overuse of quotation marks made it clear it wasn't that at all. Still, I found a connection between you and falcon. That's what it accomplished. You are hard against a dead falcon. I am not satisfied with your answers regarding why.

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:07 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:50 pm The problem here is that you have me at the top of your list and you are accusing me of going after left handed fiddlers.

@Seanzie I don't think I saw an answer to this
you had Epi near the top of your reads so why the vote?

was it a change in read or just a "I don't like what you're doing now" vote?

Lemonfairy wrote: ↑Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:09 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:55 pm Bike mafia was my first game on TS, and so while it was awhile ago (not long compared to OGs but whatever), I remember it well. This is actually reminding me a bit of it. I think perhaps I gave epi too much credit early on.

oh so the previous list was more of a carry-over from your early reads?

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:24 pm Explain the 2 votes on me at start of day immediately

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:34 pm So,

Who's the wolf between Epi, Splints?
Which one in Lemonfairy, Mata, Roxy?
And lastly which one in Dennis, SixStrings, or Seanzie?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:36 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Apr 08, 2023 11:34 pm So,

Who's the wolf between Epi, Splints?
Which one in Lemonfairy, Mata, Roxy?
And lastly which one in Dennis, SixStrings, or Seanzie?

You don't think the wolves could have double-stacked?

If they did it was on Neon I think. I still feel generally good about the people on the Syn wagon, with exception SixStrings.