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Re: [D2] Bread Mafia 2024

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Long Con wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:41 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:40 pm The major thing that really changed is now I'm fairly confident Abi is town because of the whole protecting SVS thing
Why is that convincing to you?
What do you think about a possible Roxy-Abi team?
How about you talk to me about what you see in such a pairing.
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Re: [D2] Bread Mafia 2024

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Epignosis wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:02 am
Long Con wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:41 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:40 pm The major thing that really changed is now I'm fairly confident Abi is town because of the whole protecting SVS thing
Why is that convincing to you?
What do you think about a possible Roxy-Abi team?
How about you talk to me about what you see in such a pairing.
Well, it's stuff I already brought up earlier. Roxy's weird EoD vote for Abi, and Abi saying that she hadn't seen it and didn't really care. But I also have a Roxy-S~V~S team idea lingering, given roxy's treatment of the S~V~S suspicion. But that's more teamy stuff.

What's fresh and individual? How about falcon? Twice he has made a push against me with some half-baked notions about my posts.
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Re: [D2] Bread Mafia 2024

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Long Con wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:06 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:02 am
Long Con wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:41 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:40 pm The major thing that really changed is now I'm fairly confident Abi is town because of the whole protecting SVS thing
Why is that convincing to you?
What do you think about a possible Roxy-Abi team?
How about you talk to me about what you see in such a pairing.
Well, it's stuff I already brought up earlier. Roxy's weird EoD vote for Abi, and Abi saying that she hadn't seen it and didn't really care. But I also have a Roxy-S~V~S team idea lingering, given roxy's treatment of the S~V~S suspicion. But that's more teamy stuff.

What's fresh and individual? How about falcon? Twice he has made a push against me with some half-baked notions about my posts.
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falcon45ca wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:10 am
Long Con wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:06 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:02 am
Long Con wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:41 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:40 pm The major thing that really changed is now I'm fairly confident Abi is town because of the whole protecting SVS thing
Why is that convincing to you?
What do you think about a possible Roxy-Abi team?
How about you talk to me about what you see in such a pairing.
Well, it's stuff I already brought up earlier. Roxy's weird EoD vote for Abi, and Abi saying that she hadn't seen it and didn't really care. But I also have a Roxy-S~V~S team idea lingering, given roxy's treatment of the S~V~S suspicion. But that's more teamy stuff.

What's fresh and individual? How about falcon? Twice he has made a push against me with some half-baked notions about my posts.
I'll have you know sir that all of my notions are always baked in full



I don't believe in half measures
Ok, but you've had two major thrusts at me :goofp: and both were not really genuine. Like treating my Epi vote as something real, or being pedantic about my "no one has suspected falcon before" thing... as though I don't know what I wrote, or expect everyone to forget for me?

What gives? Those are fully-baked ideas?
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Re: [D2] Bread Mafia 2024

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Long Con wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:13 am
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:10 am
Long Con wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:06 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:02 am
Long Con wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:41 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:40 pm The major thing that really changed is now I'm fairly confident Abi is town because of the whole protecting SVS thing
Why is that convincing to you?
What do you think about a possible Roxy-Abi team?
How about you talk to me about what you see in such a pairing.
Well, it's stuff I already brought up earlier. Roxy's weird EoD vote for Abi, and Abi saying that she hadn't seen it and didn't really care. But I also have a Roxy-S~V~S team idea lingering, given roxy's treatment of the S~V~S suspicion. But that's more teamy stuff.

What's fresh and individual? How about falcon? Twice he has made a push against me with some half-baked notions about my posts.
I'll have you know sir that all of my notions are always baked in full



I don't believe in half measures
Ok, but you've had two major thrusts at me :goofp: and both were not really genuine. Like treating my Epi vote as something real, or being pedantic about my "no one has suspected falcon before" thing... as though I don't know what I wrote, or expect everyone to forget for me?

What gives? Those are fully-baked ideas?
Why do you believe my sus of you isn't genuine?
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See, the thing is you've expressed sus on my slot as well...but it seems like you're treating me as T! w/ half baked ideas, rather than W! w/ an agenda
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falcon45ca wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:48 am See, the thing is you've expressed sus on my slot as well...but it seems like you're treating me as T! w/ half baked ideas, rather than W! w/ an agenda
... how is that a "thing"? I'm treating you like a player that is coming at me with half-baked, accusations. Am I supposed to OMGUS you as soon as you vote for me?
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falcon45ca wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:48 am See, the thing is you've expressed sus on my slot as well...but it seems like you're treating me as T! w/ half baked ideas, rather than W! w/ an agenda
... how is that a "thing"? I'm treating you like a player that is coming at me with half-baked, accusations. Am I supposed to OMGUS you as soon as you vote for me?
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Oops... must have pushed Back, I came back to my phone and I thought I had left that unposted.
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Re: [D2] Bread Mafia 2024

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Long Con wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:02 am
falcon45ca wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 2:48 am See, the thing is you've expressed sus on my slot as well...but it seems like you're treating me as T! w/ half baked ideas, rather than W! w/ an agenda
... how is that a "thing"? I'm treating you like a player that is coming at me with half-baked, accusations. Am I supposed to OMGUS you as soon as you vote for me?
Oh shit dude, did you forget that you don't find me as town?




A player w/ half baked accusations is somewhat different than Maf w/ an agenda, no?




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So which are you?
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Long Con wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:26 am So which are you?
Did you not read my first post?




I swear I made one, it's right near the beginning
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Close to the start?
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Re: [D1] Bread Mafia 2024

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Roxy wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:55 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:45 pm
Long Con wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 1:40 pm Roxy hit the Epi=Town conclusion before you did. Argued with you when you were poking at him. What do you think of her? Looks like she's after Thunal... I don't know if Thunal's flippantness is relaxed Towny or what, but I don't feel Wolfness from it at least.
Roxy calling Epi's sleep vote "towny" was dubious, but I think she looked authentic in her comments about Thunal. The arrow points up, albeit with little real confidence.

Thunal may be the closest I get to a "suspect" right now. That's really stretching the word. But she hasn't engaged the solving process much beyond comments about Epignosis that may no longer be relevant. "I need more"
Saying I called his "sleep" vote town is what is dubious.

You said-
Jay wrote:Your willingness to arrive, tell a story, and place a facetious vote for Sleep without interacting with the existing material left me wanting.
Then I said-
Rox wrote:It left me a town-ish vibe....
So not just the vote - arrive + story + vote for sleep = Town-ish vibe----Not Towny. Just wanted to clarify so maybe in the future you'll be able to read me better.
Glad you thought it authentic (meaning what exactly?) as I was giving as I go vibe/tone feels.
I come back to this and it feels so agreeable for what it is, and for someone who had some sus on JJJ early. Roxy is talking to Jay like she knows he's town here and is being overly nice to him about this.
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Re: [D2] Bread Mafia 2024

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Long Con wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:41 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:40 pm The major thing that really changed is now I'm fairly confident Abi is town because of the whole protecting SVS thing
Why is that convincing to you?
What do you think about a possible Roxy-Abi team?
Fwiw, Roxy responding to a correct team suggestion that she'd have to be a horrible player for it to be true almost never happens.
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Re: [D2] Bread Mafia 2024

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Tbh, I do think Falcon has half-baked accusations but that may not be wolfy. I certainly have had many half-baked accusations this game because there's not a lot of info and sometimes we latch onto stuff.

I did look at Top Artists mafia and SVS is right that he's very different but so are the effort levels which can change from game to game. I did notice some differences beyond effort though, like him not being as willing to directly push people in that game. I think the meta skim looks slightly good for him.
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Re: [D1] Bread Mafia 2024

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Roxy wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:55 am
Epignosis wrote: Wed Aug 28, 2024 8:02 pm No take on S~V~S or Long Con.
now this is odd to me. you can read me but not them?

SVS feels town to me
LC1 I am fence sitting as per normal. Same for you.
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S~V~S wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:31 am OK, I was gonna use this AM to decide where to vote, since my last list was all town/null. But instead I spent my mafia time reading weird stuff that i honestly don't understand about how I should object to people voting for people I don't town read and that my schedule makes me bad. :confused:

I have to vote now; I may or may not be back before EOD, and if before, not long before. Last day before a holiday weeked traffic here in megasuburbia gonna be hell, as will work since it's end of month right before a 4 day weekend, I doubt i will have time to sneak onto my phone.

So I'm gonna [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine not becasue i think she's bad (I really don't see bad Thunal making *this* argument, which feels straw graspy to me, like she can't find a suspicion and that was what came to mind, if she's bad, she'd come up with a better one imo) but to save myself. I'm open to changing it IF I get the chance to get back in here but I can't guarantee that.
@Roxy Town S~V~S would rather vote who she thinks is bad and go down with her head held high.
I asked to not have to use my brain LC!!!!!!

Damn I hate that I will have to totally re-read SVS today.
But your point is well taken and is true most games I have played with her.
Roxy wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:01 pm I voted Pa

Her vote was odd and the only vote I cannot follow the logic.

I'm in the kidney of YaYaLand this is am the time I have. Did not read back on SVS fur total honesty
This whole progression on SVS feels very off to me. Roxy gave SVS a really early town vibe (which in a vacuum looks significantly worse than SVS not having a read on Roxy), but then dropped it after Long Con's point against her. I feel like Roxy dropped her town vibe on SVS too easily. Usually one point doesn't make someone drop a read like that especially on someone Roxy knows very well, and it also happened while SVS was being widely suspected.

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Re: [D2] Bread Mafia 2024

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Epignosis wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:41 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:40 pm The major thing that really changed is now I'm fairly confident Abi is town because of the whole protecting SVS thing
Why is that convincing to you?
It would be really bold if Abi/SVS were the team and I don't think wolf Abi would so strongly shield town SVS at her own expense. Every time I've seen Abi townread someone so strongly she would self vote she's been town.
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Re: [D2] Bread Mafia 2024

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Thunal33 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:45 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:41 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:40 pm The major thing that really changed is now I'm fairly confident Abi is town because of the whole protecting SVS thing
Why is that convincing to you?
It would be really bold if Abi/SVS were the team and I don't think wolf Abi would so strongly shield town SVS at her own expense. Every time I've seen Abi townread someone so strongly she would self vote she's been town.
How accurate is her shielding?
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Last game she was ride-or-die on Ruri, who ended up winning for the Wolf team. But Abi was Town. When has she been a Wolf?
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Re: [D2] Bread Mafia 2024

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Long Con wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:48 am
Thunal33 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:45 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:41 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:40 pm The major thing that really changed is now I'm fairly confident Abi is town because of the whole protecting SVS thing
Why is that convincing to you?
It would be really bold if Abi/SVS were the team and I don't think wolf Abi would so strongly shield town SVS at her own expense. Every time I've seen Abi townread someone so strongly she would self vote she's been town.
How accurate is her shielding?
It's sometimes right but not always.
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Long Con wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:52 am Last game she was ride-or-die on Ruri, who ended up winning for the Wolf team. But Abi was Town. When has she been a Wolf?
I don't think I've actually played with wolf Abi but I've seen a couple wolf games on her MU database profile.
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If she's a shielder, there's nothing easier to emulate as a Wolf. Pocket-city.
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Thunal33 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:53 am
Long Con wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:52 am Last game she was ride-or-die on Ruri, who ended up winning for the Wolf team. But Abi was Town. When has she been a Wolf?
I don't think I've actually played with wolf Abi but I've seen a couple wolf games on her MU database profile.
I've played a few with her, and I've hosted her. She goes out of her way to avoid teammates imo. When I hosted her, she bussed a teammate, and she barely went to chat. She pretty much ghosted Wilgy iirc. If I'm wrong she'll tell me, and I don't want to go find the chatroom. Only the first game I played where she was wolf do i recall her playing her thread game any different, she mostly posted gifs, ot and :p , meaning more so than usual, that was ALL she posted.

I don't see either of those here. I have seen her have very very strong townreads for her own reasons that she aggro defends. Sometimes shes right, sometimes she's not. But I don't see her wasting her biggest town tell on a small game like this one.

Slept in and went for a walk this AM, for once it's not the surface of the sun out.

As of right now, or I should say when I read last, not voting Epi, Falcon or Abbi. I explained why last night, not sure what if anything could change my mind there.

That leaves a POE for me of LC, Roxy and Thunal, and I can talk myself into either way about all of them. I am esp conflicted re Thunal; she is being somewhat wishy washy, spreading the sus around, very very much like she did in Se7en. She's talked herself into and out of sussing me like what 3 times? But I can see that she's frustrated, and not sure why that would be the case if bad.

LC's initial push against me seemed odd, he has made some what looks opportunistic to me vote switches, but he does keep coming back to me, plus he can be opportunistic town or not, true chaotic neutral imo.

Roxy was still mostly null to me, I'm not caught up to thought on her tbh. So i have to reread. It's a busy weekend for her I'm sure, and she had that bit of a spat with LC? I'm not actually sure what happened there, just saw the "screw you, I'm going home post".

I try to avoid voting based on interaction with myself, but with this POE that will be imnpossible.
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I can't believe it's only day 2, if feels like we've been here for weeks ha ha
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I read back and decided I don't see LC returning to the same sus repeatedly if bad, it's too notable. Not sure where he's at now, but I think he believed it. He comes up with odd reasons for sussing me specifically, I know we have had rough patches. Like I said, i think he believes I'm bad. I've seen him do this in other games, push me, no one picks up the ball so he moves on. But as soon as someone else picks up the ball, he's right back on it. So, for me, a vote for LC would be total OMGUS. Can 100% fool me.

I think Thunal really is frustrated, she can't be supatown every game, some games are easier to solve than others, so it's a bit unfair of me to compare her to the game she just finished, or to Se7en, for that matter. But I see no reason for that frustration if bad, and I've never seen her really fake that kind of thing, so I'm leaning town. The fact that's she's openly waffling feels more town to me than not. Bad Thunal evolves her reads without really fretting over it imo, if that makes sense. More matter of fact, perhaps. Can also 100% fool me.

Not sure if it's the holiday weekend, or just real life, but Rox has been quiet in general, or has seemed so. She has almost 2x the posts I do, but other than poking at people for their reasons for sussing me, I don't recall any direct reads. Rox doesn't generally buddy me, if that's what that was, so not sure if it's AI or not. I reread it a few times, and I still don't totally get the spat she had with LC. She's one of the people I need to see playing and read her opinions, and this game she seems to be reacting to other peoples opinions more than giving her own. I could also see her killing Jay night one, he seemed to be getting on her nerves a tad,
Roxy wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 11:32 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 10:16 am Another game that feels mostly like wild guessing. Joy.
Let me remind you it is only *Day 1*.

Calm down there cowboy. :fishslap:



Catching up now.....
So for now Imma [VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

I'll be in and out, and I'm not married to this. Like I said earlier it doesn't feel like only day 2, and i think I should have "better" reads. I am pretty much sold on the Epi, Abi & Falcon being town, so if that is correct, two of these are bad, but this is the vote I feel best about right now.
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Re: [D2] Bread Mafia 2024

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S~V~S wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:20 am
Thunal33 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:53 am
Long Con wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:52 am Last game she was ride-or-die on Ruri, who ended up winning for the Wolf team. But Abi was Town. When has she been a Wolf?
I don't think I've actually played with wolf Abi but I've seen a couple wolf games on her MU database profile.
I've played a few with her, and I've hosted her. She goes out of her way to avoid teammates imo. When I hosted her, she bussed a teammate, and she barely went to chat. She pretty much ghosted Wilgy iirc. If I'm wrong she'll tell me, and I don't want to go find the chatroom. Only the first game I played where she was wolf do i recall her playing her thread game any different, she mostly posted gifs, ot and :p , meaning more so than usual, that was ALL she posted.

I don't see either of those here. I have seen her have very very strong townreads for her own reasons that she aggro defends. Sometimes shes right, sometimes she's not. But I don't see her wasting her biggest town tell on a small game like this one.
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I'm still thinking over Roxy's strange motobot defense Day 1. It wasn't a defense of the player's alignment. So motobot showing up as a civilian doesn't buy any credibility for an evil Roxy. About the only thing evil Roxy could hope to accomplish with that move is to make moto think he has a fairy godmother looking out for him and thus earn his support. But how much support is motobot going to even be given his lack of activity?
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I feel like I've done a good job keeping up, but I am looking back and seeing posts I don't remember reading. :confused:

Anyway:
Roxy wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:07 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:06 pm I can't even make a good legacy d1. If I live to d2/d3 I will have a lot better reads like I do literally every town game.

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I'd say PA or JJJ poss LC.

That's just me spit-balling FYI.
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S~V~S wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 11:20 am
Thunal33 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:53 am
Long Con wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:52 am Last game she was ride-or-die on Ruri, who ended up winning for the Wolf team. But Abi was Town. When has she been a Wolf?
I don't think I've actually played with wolf Abi but I've seen a couple wolf games on her MU database profile.
I've played a few with her, and I've hosted her. She goes out of her way to avoid teammates imo. When I hosted her, she bussed a teammate, and she barely went to chat. She pretty much ghosted Wilgy iirc. If I'm wrong she'll tell me, and I don't want to go find the chatroom. Only the first game I played where she was wolf do i recall her playing her thread game any different, she mostly posted gifs, ot and :p , meaning more so than usual, that was ALL she posted.

I don't see either of those here. I have seen her have very very strong townreads for her own reasons that she aggro defends. Sometimes shes right, sometimes she's not. But I don't see her wasting her biggest town tell on a small game like this one.

Slept in and went for a walk this AM, for once it's not the surface of the sun out.

As of right now, or I should say when I read last, not voting Epi, Falcon or Abbi. I explained why last night, not sure what if anything could change my mind there.

That leaves a POE for me of LC, Roxy and Thunal, and I can talk myself into either way about all of them. I am esp conflicted re Thunal; she is being somewhat wishy washy, spreading the sus around, very very much like she did in Se7en. She's talked herself into and out of sussing me like what 3 times? But I can see that she's frustrated, and not sure why that would be the case if bad.

LC's initial push against me seemed odd, he has made some what looks opportunistic to me vote switches, but he does keep coming back to me, plus he can be opportunistic town or not, true chaotic neutral imo.

Roxy was still mostly null to me, I'm not caught up to thought on her tbh. So i have to reread. It's a busy weekend for her I'm sure, and she had that bit of a spat with LC? I'm not actually sure what happened there, just saw the "screw you, I'm going home post".

I try to avoid voting based on interaction with myself, but with this POE that will be imnpossible.
Thanks for the Abi insight.

You're right that I've been wavering a whole lot and I think that's because I had trouble getting suspects that makes sense and I had miscleared someone (and I think that person is Roxy but we shall see). I might just want to take the leap into calling you town because this seems useful and spot on to what I think your insight would be as town.
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Long Con trying to poke holes in people's townreads (like mine on Abi and the consensus one on Falcon d1) mildly pings me.
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Epignosis wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 3:45 pm I'm still thinking over Roxy's strange motobot defense Day 1. It wasn't a defense of the player's alignment. So motobot showing up as a civilian doesn't buy any credibility for an evil Roxy. About the only thing evil Roxy could hope to accomplish with that move is to make moto think he has a fairy godmother looking out for him and thus earn his support. But how much support is motobot going to even be given his lack of activity?
I think if wolf Roxy really thought motobot had a townish vibe and didn't understand the sus on him then she would honestly say that. Not every read a wolf makes is a play.
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Didn't mean to steal the line. Damn, I must have missed some posts for real.
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Thunal33 wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:06 pm I can't even make a good legacy d1. If I live to d2/d3 I will have a lot better reads like I do literally every town game.

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I'd say PA or JJJ poss LC.

That's just me spit-balling FYI.
So, we're talking Thunal, JJJ, PC, and maybe LC as Wolves.

But like, don't take it too seriously.

I believe croutons would be appropriate for that salad, give4n the theme.
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[VOTE: Roxy] aubergine

Not really sure where Roxy stands on anyone at this point (even after going through Roxy's posts twice), and that's probably a bad indicator.
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Roxy wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:08 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:06 pm
S~V~S wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:31 am OK, I was gonna use this AM to decide where to vote, since my last list was all town/null. But instead I spent my mafia time reading weird stuff that i honestly don't understand about how I should object to people voting for people I don't town read and that my schedule makes me bad. :confused:

I have to vote now; I may or may not be back before EOD, and if before, not long before. Last day before a holiday weeked traffic here in megasuburbia gonna be hell, as will work since it's end of month right before a 4 day weekend, I doubt i will have time to sneak onto my phone.

So I'm gonna [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine not becasue i think she's bad (I really don't see bad Thunal making *this* argument, which feels straw graspy to me, like she can't find a suspicion and that was what came to mind, if she's bad, she'd come up with a better one imo) but to save myself. I'm open to changing it IF I get the chance to get back in here but I can't guarantee that.
@Roxy Town S~V~S would rather vote who she thinks is bad and go down with her head held high.
I asked to not have to use my brain LC!!!!!!

Damn I hate that I will have to totally re-read SVS today.
But your point is well taken and is true most games I have played with her.
I also don't think Roxy/SVS is the team off this, so add that to my unpairings list. If Roxy is a wolf this looks like Roxy is pivoting to be okay with town SVS dying but without really wanting to get her hands dirty. The teammate version of this would have some shade.

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Thunal33 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:38 pm
Roxy wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:08 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:06 pm
S~V~S wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:31 am OK, I was gonna use this AM to decide where to vote, since my last list was all town/null. But instead I spent my mafia time reading weird stuff that i honestly don't understand about how I should object to people voting for people I don't town read and that my schedule makes me bad. :confused:

I have to vote now; I may or may not be back before EOD, and if before, not long before. Last day before a holiday weeked traffic here in megasuburbia gonna be hell, as will work since it's end of month right before a 4 day weekend, I doubt i will have time to sneak onto my phone.

So I'm gonna [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine not becasue i think she's bad (I really don't see bad Thunal making *this* argument, which feels straw graspy to me, like she can't find a suspicion and that was what came to mind, if she's bad, she'd come up with a better one imo) but to save myself. I'm open to changing it IF I get the chance to get back in here but I can't guarantee that.
@Roxy Town S~V~S would rather vote who she thinks is bad and go down with her head held high.
I asked to not have to use my brain LC!!!!!!

Damn I hate that I will have to totally re-read SVS today.
But your point is well taken and is true most games I have played with her.
I also don't think Roxy/SVS is the team off this, so add that to my unpairings list. If Roxy is a wolf this looks like Roxy is pivoting to be okay with town SVS dying but without really wanting to get her hands dirty. The teammate version of this would have some shade.

My unpairings list that I'm pretty confident in (I gave reasoning earlier):
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Abi/Falcon
Roxy/Abi
Roxy/SVS
I'm pleased you didn't rule out Roxy being teamed with LC. In case Roxy is mafia and I bite it tonight:
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Thunal33 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:40 pm The major thing that really changed is now I'm fairly confident Abi is town because of the whole protecting SVS thing
Why is that convincing to you?
What do you think about a possible Roxy-Abi team?
How about you talk to me about what you see in such a pairing.
Well, it's stuff I already brought up earlier. Roxy's weird EoD vote for Abi, and Abi saying that she hadn't seen it and didn't really care. But I also have a Roxy-S~V~S team idea lingering, given roxy's treatment of the S~V~S suspicion. But that's more teamy stuff.

What's fresh and individual? How about falcon? Twice he has made a push against me with some half-baked notions about my posts.
This is almost as though LC knows Roxy is mafia and is trying to preemptively bag the needed dead civilians to seal the deal.
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Thunal33 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:52 am
Long Con wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:48 am
Thunal33 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:45 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 11:41 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:40 pm The major thing that really changed is now I'm fairly confident Abi is town because of the whole protecting SVS thing
Why is that convincing to you?
It would be really bold if Abi/SVS were the team and I don't think wolf Abi would so strongly shield town SVS at her own expense. Every time I've seen Abi townread someone so strongly she would self vote she's been town.
How accurate is her shielding?
It's sometimes right but not always.
I'm more accurate than not
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Epignosis wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:47 pm
Thunal33 wrote: Sun Sep 01, 2024 4:38 pm
Roxy wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:08 pm
Long Con wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:06 pm
S~V~S wrote: Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:31 am OK, I was gonna use this AM to decide where to vote, since my last list was all town/null. But instead I spent my mafia time reading weird stuff that i honestly don't understand about how I should object to people voting for people I don't town read and that my schedule makes me bad. :confused:

I have to vote now; I may or may not be back before EOD, and if before, not long before. Last day before a holiday weeked traffic here in megasuburbia gonna be hell, as will work since it's end of month right before a 4 day weekend, I doubt i will have time to sneak onto my phone.

So I'm gonna [VOTE: Thunal] aubergine not becasue i think she's bad (I really don't see bad Thunal making *this* argument, which feels straw graspy to me, like she can't find a suspicion and that was what came to mind, if she's bad, she'd come up with a better one imo) but to save myself. I'm open to changing it IF I get the chance to get back in here but I can't guarantee that.
@Roxy Town S~V~S would rather vote who she thinks is bad and go down with her head held high.
I asked to not have to use my brain LC!!!!!!

Damn I hate that I will have to totally re-read SVS today.
But your point is well taken and is true most games I have played with her.
I also don't think Roxy/SVS is the team off this, so add that to my unpairings list. If Roxy is a wolf this looks like Roxy is pivoting to be okay with town SVS dying but without really wanting to get her hands dirty. The teammate version of this would have some shade.

My unpairings list that I'm pretty confident in (I gave reasoning earlier):
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Abi/Falcon
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I'm pleased you didn't rule out Roxy being teamed with LC. In case Roxy is mafia and I bite it tonight:
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Thunal33 wrote: Sat Aug 31, 2024 5:40 pm The major thing that really changed is now I'm fairly confident Abi is town because of the whole protecting SVS thing
Why is that convincing to you?
What do you think about a possible Roxy-Abi team?
How about you talk to me about what you see in such a pairing.
Well, it's stuff I already brought up earlier. Roxy's weird EoD vote for Abi, and Abi saying that she hadn't seen it and didn't really care. But I also have a Roxy-S~V~S team idea lingering, given roxy's treatment of the S~V~S suspicion. But that's more teamy stuff.

What's fresh and individual? How about falcon? Twice he has made a push against me with some half-baked notions about my posts.
This is almost as though LC knows Roxy is mafia and is trying to preemptively bag the needed dead civilians to seal the deal.
Nope, I've been tinfoiling that being distancing. They've been at each other on and off but haven't voted each other when it mattered.
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I dunno what's wrong with me right now

Can't get into it

Anyways both these wagons feel good to me I'm gonna keep my vote here to keep them competitive but I think Roxy is just gonna flip woof
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Fresh slices of pumpernickel have been passed around for everyone's enjoyment. Congratulate yourselves on a job well done!

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Thanks mafia for killing Falcon. I suspected him overnight so if you didn't kill me I'm glad you killed him.

I haven't been this wrong in a mafia game for quite awhile and I'm trying to stay calm about it. I haven't been really surprised by a mafia team reveal since last year and no matter who the mafia are here I will be genuinely surprised. Extremely well played.

I was getting confident in my SVS/Abi/Epi clears and obviously at least one is wrong.
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I need to totally reset today.
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Wheeeee

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Bye bye
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Sorry if GG
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Tbh I almost snapvoted Long Con exactly to prevent Abi snapvoting Epi, but then I talked myself into one of Abi/Epi being a misclear so I didn't do it. Let's see if that was a bad decision.
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