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Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:30 pm**

sabie12
Voters: DrWilgy, LinearPoint, Paopan, Creature, alexa, c4e5g3d5, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime

Pros:
- sabie12 is unreadable and potentially wolf
- Has c4e5g3d5

Cons:
- Some wolf names but meh

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:31 pm**

sig
Voters: alexa, Master Radishes, Paopan, falcon45ca, Justplayingitcool, Belzy, sabie12, hollowkatt, TonyStarkPrime

Pros:
- sig isn't helping town and can still be gambiting wolf

Cons:
- Not the most inspiring wagon
- Wagon is too big
- Still unresolved vig shot issue

Not sure if Belzy is really a pro anymore

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:31 pm**

Wilgy has been playing like he does give a flying cow if he is checked at night, shot etc etc.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:32 pm**

TonyStarkPrime
Voters: Guillotine, Master Radishes, alexa, Justplayingitcool, sabie12, hollowkatt, Creature, LinearPoint

Pros:
- TonyStarkPrime can still be highposting wolf

Cons:
- Doesn't feel like anyone voting here is good enough at finding wolf

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:33 pm**

Looks like mac has removed his vote from every player, and is now voting himself.

Never seen scum do that before...

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:33 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:30 pm sabie12
Voters: DrWilgy, LinearPoint, Paopan, Creature, alexa, c4e5g3d5, Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime

Pros:
- sabie12 is unreadable and potentially wolf
- Has c4e5g3d5

Cons:
- Some wolf names but meh

Ftr it's a shrug vote so don't treat it as, like, a shining beacon of my accuracy

Nor should most of my votes be considered particularly accurate except for a couple recent games that I'm really hoping weren't just lucky

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:33 pm**

Wolves seem competent enough to create uncertainty

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:34 pm**

I might end up just voting every player that is close to unreadable

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:34 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:26 pm hollowkatt
Voters: Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Belzy, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

Pros:
- Has Belzy
- hollowkatt looks wolfy

Cons:
- Some uninspiring names

Who are the uninspiring names Creature?

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:35 pm**

Namely

112
DrWilgy
falcon45ca
Guillotine
hollowkatt
Master Radishes
sabie12
sig
Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:35 pm**

[VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Shep was the real champ

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:36 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:26 pm hollowkatt
Voters: Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Belzy, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

Pros:
- Has Belzy
- hollowkatt looks wolfy

Cons:
- Some uninspiring names
Who are the uninspiring names Creature?

Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:37 pm**

Almost tempted to say at least one of the players with s initials is wolf

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:38 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:36 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:26 pm hollowkatt
Voters: Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Belzy, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

Pros:
- Has Belzy
- hollowkatt looks wolfy

Cons:
- Some uninspiring names
Who are the uninspiring names Creature?
Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

That is not some, that is MOST! When i read “some” i thought you meant a few, not almost all of it.

Why are they uninspiring for you?

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:38 pm**

Welp this wagon analysis wasn't really helpful

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:39 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:38 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:36 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:34 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:26 pm hollowkatt
Voters: Master Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Belzy, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca

Pros:
- Has Belzy
- hollowkatt looks wolfy

Cons:
- Some uninspiring names
Who are the uninspiring names Creature?
Radishes, TonyStarkPrime, Sloonei, sabie12, falcon45ca
That is not some, that is MOST! When i read “some” i thought you meant a few, not almost all of it.

Why are they uninspiring for you?

idk I said some because I read sabie12 at the time but I didn't count all names that were uninspiring.

They're uninspiring because I feel like any of these players can be wolves and I don't think any of them are good wolf hunters.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:41 pm**

Maybe dyachei is the only player here I feel is doing fine at finding wolves

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:43 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:59 pm There's also:

Paopan claiming to be a protective role

hollowkatt claiming to be a town positive role

but both these claims are so vague wolves could easily fake to get away from today's tetralynch

I don't think wolves are souping tonight anyways and if they do oh well. I'm also claiming some flavor of protective role.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:43 pm**

Is sig ballsy enough to shoot obvtown and then claim the shot on them as wolf?

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:44 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:43 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:59 pm There's also:

Paopan claiming to be a protective role

hollowkatt claiming to be a town positive role

but both these claims are so vague wolves could easily fake to get away from today's tetralynch
I don't think wolves are souping tonight anyways and if they do oh well. I'm also claiming some flavor of protective role.

Wolves definitely aren't souping tonight, but in the long term it will suck for town as we start to claim our stuff.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:44 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:00 pm according to LP, Paopan has made a similar claim as scum. also, they've in general been very different from the game i've seen them in as V and have some questionable pushes so i still think paopan can be a wolf

paopan absolutely can be a wolf here yes. The only game I've seen them in they dropped a large reads list early that was functionally fluff, then proceeded to meh post the rest of the game day, then they died to the chop.

Their reads list they dropped early here is reminiscent of the list I saw in that game.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:45 pm**

We'll likely see wolves getting 5 or more kills in a single night due claims

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:46 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:44 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:43 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:59 pm There's also:

Paopan claiming to be a protective role

hollowkatt claiming to be a town positive role

but both these claims are so vague wolves could easily fake to get away from today's tetralynch
I don't think wolves are souping tonight anyways and if they do oh well. I'm also claiming some flavor of protective role.
Wolves definitely aren't souping tonight, but in the long term it will suck for town as we start to claim our stuff.

basically yeah but I'm prepared to lay my life down for town if and when it's needed.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:47 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:35 pm [VOTE: Master Radishes] aubergine

Shep was the real champ

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:48 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:45 pm We'll likely see wolves getting 5 or more kills in a single night due claims

Have long accepted that it's probably just a loss

Obv still try to do as well as possible

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:57 pm**

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:46 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:44 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:43 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:59 pm There's also:

Paopan claiming to be a protective role

hollowkatt claiming to be a town positive role

but both these claims are so vague wolves could easily fake to get away from today's tetralynch
I don't think wolves are souping tonight anyways and if they do oh well. I'm also claiming some flavor of protective role.
Wolves definitely aren't souping tonight, but in the long term it will suck for town as we start to claim our stuff.
basically yeah but I'm prepared to lay my life down for town if and when it's needed.

That's usually endgaming though (see last AtLA game).

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:57 pm**

Bit angry because I'm used to wolves not doing risky stuff but I feel like I'm seeing a culture where wolves actually do risky stuff

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:00 pm**

Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:01 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:00 pm Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?

He’s shouted and screamed about having a very specific role, as far as I can remember.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:01 pm**

[VOTE: guillotine] aubergine
5/8

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:01 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:00 pm Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?

Mech from alexa

Also have found him towny but apparently people who just saw him wolf don't agree so eh

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:05 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:01 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:00 pm Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?
Mech from alexa

Also have found him towny but apparently people who just saw him wolf don't agree so eh

uhhh i retract the mech tbh, i was blocked last night. maybe this was stupid to fake claim in case i got vigged but i was given a vest thus not worried

i just thought their reaction to my threat to shoot them was villagery and that dizzy seemed pockety toward him

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:05 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:01 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:00 pm Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?
Mech from alexa

Also have found him towny but apparently people who just saw him wolf don't agree so eh

Yeah, that's like the only thing for them. Bit hard when I don't know what that is so I can evaluate and it is not optimal for it to be revealed.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:06 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:05 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:01 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:00 pm Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?
Mech from alexa

Also have found him towny but apparently people who just saw him wolf don't agree so eh
uhhh i retract the mech tbh, i was blocked last night. maybe this was stupid to fake claim in case i got vigged but i was given a vest thus not worried

i just thought their reaction to my threat to shoot them was villagery and that dizzy seemed pockety toward him

So likely wolves got a roleblocky role

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:07 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:06 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:05 pm
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:01 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:00 pm Guillotine looks wolfy. What's there going for them?
Mech from alexa

Also have found him towny but apparently people who just saw him wolf don't agree so eh
uhhh i retract the mech tbh, i was blocked last night. maybe this was stupid to fake claim in case i got vigged but i was given a vest thus not worried

i just thought their reaction to my threat to shoot them was villagery and that dizzy seemed pockety toward him
So likely wolves got a roleblocky role

correct

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:08 pm**

i think that's a given anyways in a high-PR-setup

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:08 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:13 pm @alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:23 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:16 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:13 pm @alexa if you have the shot, shoot me.

Everone else, when you see my flip! Chop Alexa, you will understand why? Just remember her little stunt with Nutella upon my flip

I bet Alexa will not have the ovaries to shoot me though, because she is a chicken when she rands scum.

I cant be here the rest of the day and im known to freeze when i rand scum in mashes, so Phil vote on me is townie because i think that is why Mac is voting me.

Good luck town.
lmao WTF is this reaction

how can you repeatedly say your wolf range is infinite and that people shouldn't be townreading you then react like this to me wanting you shot?

i don't want to shoot you if you're a villager. this is not because i'm a "cowardly wolf" it's because i want to shoot right dude
@alexa I hard claim screamer. The alignment and identity of the player that kills me is revealed in the thread. If you are town and wanna be inno child, just shoot me.

It does not work for soup kills though. So there, im dead either way, take the shot and carry us to victory if you are town

This is some of the ballsy stuff

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:11 pm**

Guillo is a ballsy wolf but I don't think he'd outright sacrifice himself like that as wolf/he would consider it letting down his team. So unless he's some sort of bomb, I just don't buy that he's a wolf

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:13 pm**

alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:11 pm Guillo is a ballsy wolf but I don't think he'd outright sacrifice himself like that as wolf/he would consider it letting down his team. So unless he's some sort of bomb, I just don't buy that he's a wolf

How likely you were going to shoot him after that?

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:14 pm**

There's also the possibility the answer for this game might just be something straight obvious like sig, sabie12, DrWilgy, 112, maybe Paopan or maybe falcon45ca.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:14 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:57 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:46 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:44 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 6:43 pm
Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 5:59 pm There's also:

Paopan claiming to be a protective role

hollowkatt claiming to be a town positive role

but both these claims are so vague wolves could easily fake to get away from today's tetralynch
I don't think wolves are souping tonight anyways and if they do oh well. I'm also claiming some flavor of protective role.
Wolves definitely aren't souping tonight, but in the long term it will suck for town as we start to claim our stuff.
basically yeah but I'm prepared to lay my life down for town if and when it's needed.
That's usually endgaming though (see last AtLA game).

I know about the AtLA game, I was a wolf with Seanzie

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:16 pm**

Yeah, I town read that interaction b/c it seemed genuinely frustrated. Wolf guillo LOVES fucking with town and craves getting one over on them. Town guillo loves being right and gets really frustrated when he feels he's being read wrongly or for shite reasons.

That is the only +Town thing I have for guillo.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:17 pm**

im sorry but this day just feels like too much of a clusterfuck for me to really pick through all that well, I am inclined to give Falcon points for where his votes are though.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:17 pm**

The AtLA game really sucked. I was excited for the flavor but the play there was so poor and game was over way too early.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:17 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:13 pm
alexa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:11 pm Guillo is a ballsy wolf but I don't think he'd outright sacrifice himself like that as wolf/he would consider it letting down his team. So unless he's some sort of bomb, I just don't buy that he's a wolf
How likely you were going to shoot him after that?

if i didn't feel like losing my PR would've been really bad/i was anything super weak, i may have shot him. and i don't think he could've anticipated i'd react that way, it sounded like he really was ok dying

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:18 pm**

Not doing anything with these numbers at the moment, but I just want to note that the best possible ratio at the moment is 15 town to 5 mafia to 1 independent. That situation is not as grim as we may be feeling right now, though it's also possible there are more third party roles active than the projection shows there. Today's megaball results will do a lot to determine the numbers moving forward. I have faith that we will not go 0 for 4 today, at the very least.

It is difficult-to-impossible to set an exact POE target number in a game where players are dropping like flies as they have been here. I'm not feeling very mathematically inclined at the moment anyway.

This post serves no purpose other than to help me calibrate my mindset.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:21 pm**

[VOTE: MAC JPIC 112 LP] aubergine

not really committed to any of these but this is the best i got for my votes so far based on my reads outside. i think dizzy spewed sloonei town

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:21 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:18 pm Not doing anything with these numbers at the moment, but I just want to note that the best possible ratio at the moment is 15 town to 5 mafia to 1 independent. That situation is not as grim as we may be feeling right now, though it's also possible there are more third party roles active than the projection shows there. Today's megaball results will do a lot to determine the numbers moving forward. I have faith that we will not go 0 for 4 today, at the very least.

It is difficult-to-impossible to set an exact POE target number in a game where players are dropping like flies as they have been here. I'm not feeling very mathematically inclined at the moment anyway.

This post serves no purpose other than to help me calibrate my mindset.

Bit worried so far it feels like town has been given plenty of chances to kill wolf (and blew most of them).

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:22 pm**

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:18 pm Not doing anything with these numbers at the moment, but I just want to note that the best possible ratio at the moment is 15 town to 5 mafia to 1 independent. That situation is not as grim as we may be feeling right now, though it's also possible there are more third party roles active than the projection shows there. Today's megaball results will do a lot to determine the numbers moving forward. I have faith that we will not go 0 for 4 today, at the very least.

It is difficult-to-impossible to set an exact POE target number in a game where players are dropping like flies as they have been here. I'm not feeling very mathematically inclined at the moment anyway.

This post serves no purpose other than to help me calibrate my mindset.
Bit worried so far it feels like town has been given plenty of chances to kill wolf (and blew most of them).

Town's chances of success are lower early in a game when we are collectively less informed.

Posted: **Tue Feb 01, 2022 7:22 pm**

The possibility we were bamboozled by LinearPoint after almost getting D1 is also real

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