The Syndicate

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:59 pm "Everyone remains a suspect" is something scum would say at this point in game

Fucks given:

No credit for you.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:05 pm Protecting epi.

Also sorry I went AWOL in game, got assigned ,, 20 page paper so if y'all want to kill me please put me out of my misery lol

sprityo is a cleric.
Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player.

I am a pretty princess and a troubador.
Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player.

We have BTSC,

Rule 9:
9) Double targeting is allowed.

Why are you protecting me or sprityo?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:07 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:05 pm Protecting epi.

Also sorry I went AWOL in game, got assigned ,, 20 page paper so if y'all want to kill me please put me out of my misery lol

sprityo is a cleric.
Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player.

I am a pretty princess and a troubador.
Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player.

We have BTSC,

Rule 9:
9) Double targeting is allowed.

Why are you protecting me or sprityo?

I haven't read thread I might change it, currently protecting you

Anyone gotten their promotion yet?

Bob is clearly scum btw and note I tried to lynch him

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:08 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:07 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:05 pm Protecting epi.

Also sorry I went AWOL in game, got assigned ,, 20 page paper so if y'all want to kill me please put me out of my misery lol

sprityo is a cleric.
Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player.

I am a pretty princess and a troubador.
Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player.

We have BTSC,

Rule 9:
9) Double targeting is allowed.

Why are you protecting me or sprityo?

I haven't read thread I might change it, currently protecting you

It has nothing to do with the thread. It has to do with the info I posted right here. Marinate on it for a minute.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:37 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:57 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:55 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:27 pm I want to know more about Epi's chat with sprit.

Effectively Masons with a protect because Mac died

RIP MacDougall

Not masons.

Neighbors.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor

Huh. My role thing actually said "mason with you" but I was later informed I had no guarantee either MacDougall or sprityo were good. I always assumed "mason" = BTSC.

It's fine. I just wanted to defuse the idea of confirmed alignment. Masons assume they can trust each other.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:07 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:05 pm Protecting epi.

Also sorry I went AWOL in game, got assigned ,, 20 page paper so if y'all want to kill me please put me out of my misery lol

sprityo is a cleric.
Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player.

I am a pretty princess and a troubador.
Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player.

We have BTSC,

Rule 9:
9) Double targeting is allowed.

Why are you protecting me or sprityo?

Cavaliers act before clerics do.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:23 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:07 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:05 pm Protecting epi.

Also sorry I went AWOL in game, got assigned ,, 20 page paper so if y'all want to kill me please put me out of my misery lol

sprityo is a cleric.
Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player.

I am a pretty princess and a troubador.
Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player.

We have BTSC,

Rule 9:
9) Double targeting is allowed.

Why are you protecting me or sprityo?

Cavaliers act before clerics do.

It would also protect both you and rundont walk from death if you, mostly.

EBWOP: It would also protect both you and rundontwalk from death, mostly.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:22 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:37 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:57 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:55 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 1:27 pm I want to know more about Epi's chat with sprit.

Effectively Masons with a protect because Mac died

RIP MacDougall

Not masons.

Neighbors.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Neighbor

Huh. My role thing actually said "mason with you" but I was later informed I had no guarantee either MacDougall or sprityo were good. I always assumed "mason" = BTSC.

It's fine. I just wanted to defuse the idea of confirmed alignment. Masons assume they can trust each other.

I had already said this.

If sprityo is bad, then he did one hell of a dance in BTSC. I believe he's good.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:49 pm If I may criticize you, in a manner that you have similarly criticized me before, I would say that your analysis is treating this like there is one mafia. I get that you are (perhaps) looking for other mafia, but your analysis is weak to me because it assumes any vote and all votes that were not on Quin were to hide / save / whatever.

Quin has teammates. I believe Iron_Dwarf is one. His reaction to catching Quin was bogus. Hooray we caught a bad guy but fuck we lost a teammate and it isn't like his enthusiasm is translating into finding Quin's teammates.

The biggest mistake civilians make is assuming someone was being saved or that the lynch leads consisted of people of opposite alignments. Those are two huge mistakes rooted deeply in human psychology that I, as a gambler, take full advantage of.

Fair, I've already backed down on the day 5 save thing.

But saves happen. Scum can't bus each other all the time. Hence my case on RDW. There is this whole pattern with his votes that is too contrived to be a coincidence.

Bob has another pattern, albeit much less contrived.

With you it's less of a pattern but more of a series of little things that make me feel suspicious.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:23 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:07 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:05 pm Protecting epi.

Also sorry I went AWOL in game, got assigned ,, 20 page paper so if y'all want to kill me please put me out of my misery lol

sprityo is a cleric.
Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player.

I am a pretty princess and a troubador.
Mend - Each night, you may doctor another player.

We have BTSC,

Rule 9:
9) Double targeting is allowed.

Why are you protecting me or sprityo?

Cavaliers act before clerics do.

Of course they do. They're...cavalier.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:27 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:49 pm If I may criticize you, in a manner that you have similarly criticized me before, I would say that your analysis is treating this like there is one mafia. I get that you are (perhaps) looking for other mafia, but your analysis is weak to me because it assumes any vote and all votes that were not on Quin were to hide / save / whatever.

Quin has teammates. I believe Iron_Dwarf is one. His reaction to catching Quin was bogus. Hooray we caught a bad guy but fuck we lost a teammate and it isn't like his enthusiasm is translating into finding Quin's teammates.

The biggest mistake civilians make is assuming someone was being saved or that the lynch leads consisted of people of opposite alignments. Those are two huge mistakes rooted deeply in human psychology that I, as a gambler, take full advantage of.

Fair, I've already backed down on the day 5 save thing.

But saves happen. Scum can't bus each other all the time. Hence my case on RDW. There is this whole pattern with his votes that is too contrived to be a coincidence.

Bob has another pattern, albeit much less contrived.

With you it's less of a pattern but more of a series of little things that make me feel suspicious.

Convenient you didn't think I was scum until somewhat recently. How getting a Mafia teammate lynched changes a person

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:51 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 10:27 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:49 pm If I may criticize you, in a manner that you have similarly criticized me before, I would say that your analysis is treating this like there is one mafia. I get that you are (perhaps) looking for other mafia, but your analysis is weak to me because it assumes any vote and all votes that were not on Quin were to hide / save / whatever.

Quin has teammates. I believe Iron_Dwarf is one. His reaction to catching Quin was bogus. Hooray we caught a bad guy but fuck we lost a teammate and it isn't like his enthusiasm is translating into finding Quin's teammates.

The biggest mistake civilians make is assuming someone was being saved or that the lynch leads consisted of people of opposite alignments. Those are two huge mistakes rooted deeply in human psychology that I, as a gambler, take full advantage of.

Fair, I've already backed down on the day 5 save thing.

But saves happen. Scum can't bus each other all the time. Hence my case on RDW. There is this whole pattern with his votes that is too contrived to be a coincidence.

Bob has another pattern, albeit much less contrived.

With you it's less of a pattern but more of a series of little things that make me feel suspicious.

Convenient you didn't think I was scum until somewhat recently. How getting a Mafia teammate lynched changes a person

I trust empirical evidence over my own ability to read people's thoughts any day.

The former is logical and has given be awesome results in the past. The later usually blows on my face. See the Jay lynch.

So you have a couple posts that look like they are made by a civ. Cute. But baddies can fake that. What baddies can't fake is votes. If they vote like townies, they will end up lynching one another.

Literally all my posts look civ cause I'm civ.

How about we approach things in another light. Who would likely recruit Quin as Mafia?

I voted Bob but then I realized that's colonialbob.

sprityo wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:55 pm I think i already said it, but having a Knight on the mafia team is almost like giving the mafia an extra member, because if they get lynched they dont lose any amount of mafia members, the town will more than likely lose a player and the mafia are one step closer to overpowering town

if anything we could have the thieves check on I_D and see what the results are

this is a pretty good idea to avoid wasting resources

By the way did we EVER get Lapluie to post their night results? i forget but i feel like it just never happened

hey yeah? [mention]lapluie[/mention]

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:56 pmIf iron dwarf is scum then how can gwilly be town? Do u see what I'm saying

the lynch that was supposed to be tied between iron dwarf and jay wasn't actually close enough to test gwili's thing right? i thought there was a 2 or greater difference in votes

Kenway wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:21 am I voted Bob but then I realized that's colonialbob.

They're both cute.

So finally some other get around to rdw?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:49 pm Quin has teammates. I believe Iron_Dwarf is one. His reaction to catching Quin was bogus. Hooray we caught a bad guy but fuck we lost a teammate and it isn't like his enthusiasm is translating into finding Quin's teammates.

Can you be consistent and then call the following people out for reacting to Quin's lynching:

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:53 am Ermigerd, we finally found one!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:31 am Oh, sweet!

Dunno why I'm the one saving the day, but don't I look cute doing it?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:24 am FINALLY

And I'm on nutella's and rdw's case for quite some time now, so yes I am busy finding his teammates.

I'm thinking: if RDW is bad, then Epi looks good, because what motivation does RDW have to save Quin if Epi was going to stop it anyway (and he did say hours in advance he would stop the lynch)?

Likewise, Epi being bad nullifies the bad read on RDW based on Day 1. Though his Day 4 still looks horrible.

RDW's EoD1 ISO is... interesting to say at least.

I have no idea how to guess what he is thinking in then.

He goes for Nutella, then he randomly decides her wagon is growing too fast, then he plays some mind game with me because he wants me to commit to Nutella (and votes Epi to force me to vote for Nutella). Then he votes Nutella again.

The way he interacts with the Colin vs Epi argument is weird too.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:40 am Sorry lads a lurker is not going to die today, I want an active player to die so we get more info

If RDW flips bad remind me to do a technicolor analysis of Day 2, to figure out why he said this.

Every mention of Quin by RDW:

Day 1

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:46 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:44 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:41 pm I don't think with the way the role distribution panned out yesterday that would have been necessary or possible. It was a whoever was online first and asking for a role.

I think it's likely that scum would plan for that.

You seem to know what the scum are thinking which begs the question

Day 2

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:40 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:36 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:02 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:55 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:53 pm Roygbiv

Are your reads in a state of constant quantum fluctuation?

There's scum among IronDwarf/gwilikers/dr/kites

I think y'all are overlooking gwilikers. Would town gwilikers be so so invested?

I don't see an explanation for this opinion in your posts. Can you elaborate?

Instinct mostly.

I am a lion and the scum are baby gazelles.

Those are the people who strike me as most scummy reading their posts. Like where is Kites? Doctor Dragon got really bothered by MacDougall the way scum would. Like you can call me scum all day long and I will laugh in your face cause you're wrong and I'm right

Day 3

Nothing.

Day 4

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:42 pm [VOTE: quin] aubergine

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 2:54 pm Unvote Quin

Aubergine

[VOTE: DrWigly ] aubergine

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:25 pm Unvote

[VOTE: quin] aubergine

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:58 pm Unvite

[VOTE: Dr wigly] aubergine

Day 5

Nothing.

Every mention of RDW by Quin:

Day 1

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:46 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:46 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:44 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Feb 09, 2018 8:41 pm I don't think with the way the role distribution panned out yesterday that would have been necessary or possible. It was a whoever was online first and asking for a role.

I think it's likely that scum would plan for that.

You seem to know what the scum are thinking which begs the question

=)

Day 2

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:45 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:40 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:36 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:02 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:55 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:53 pm Roygbiv

Are your reads in a state of constant quantum fluctuation?

There's scum among IronDwarf/gwilikers/dr/kites

I think y'all are overlooking gwilikers. Would town gwilikers be so so invested?

I don't see an explanation for this opinion in your posts. Can you elaborate?

Instinct mostly.

I am a lion and the scum are baby gazelles.

Those are the people who strike me as most scummy reading their posts. Like where is Kites? Doctor Dragon got really bothered by MacDougall the way scum would. Like you can call me scum all day long and I will laugh in your face cause you're wrong and I'm right

Disagree with DDL. He gets emotional in arguments as a civilian. I've gone back and forth with him in enough games to know this. I don't know if it's also scum indicative. I've not played with him in that alignment.

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:48 pm

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:48 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:46 pm also wait rdw did you mean DDL when you said "dr" in that one post? I'm so confused I assumed it was either Dr. White or DrWilgy but your response implies DDL

I thought it was Doctor Dragon Fluff or something

It's Dragon Dick Luffy.

Day 3, Day 4, Day 5

Nothing.

I want to avoid confirmation bias here.

But I hate the content in my last 2 posts.

Like it's all friendly banter and meta discussion and "I did not understand that post" for three days, then the Quinwilgygate, and then nothing again.

It looks like distancing.

On the other hand, I just read the ISOs of Bob, Epi, Gwilkers, ID and Sig while looking for mentions of Quin.

I hated every single one of them.

So might be confirmation bias.

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:32 am

Kenway wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:21 am I voted Bob but then I realized that's colonialbob.

They're both cute.

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:09 am

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 9:49 pm Quin has teammates. I believe Iron_Dwarf is one. His reaction to catching Quin was bogus. Hooray we caught a bad guy but fuck we lost a teammate and it isn't like his enthusiasm is translating into finding Quin's teammates.

Can you be consistent and then call the following people out for reacting to Quin's lynching:

Iron_Dwarf wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:53 am Ermigerd, we finally found one!

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:31 am Oh, sweet!

Dunno why I'm the one saving the day, but don't I look cute doing it?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:24 am FINALLY

And I'm on nutella's and rdw's case for quite some time now, so yes I am busy finding his teammates.

Man I worked hard on my reaction post too.

DDL have you discussed what you've done at night so far?

Lynch me today if y'all are going to so it doesn't come down to win lose. I accept some of my posts look scummy but it's just how I always play. Pay special attention to rym people who pretend not to know that

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:42 am DDL have you discussed what you've done at night so far?

Yes but I can sum it up.

N1 - Quin
N2 - Bob (failed)
N3 - Kites (failed)
N4 - Nutella (failed)

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:20 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 8:42 am DDL have you discussed what you've done at night so far?

Yes but I can sum it up.

N1 - Quin
N2 - Bob (failed)
N3 - Kites (failed)
N4 - Nutella (failed)

So quin likely killed MacDougall, although he wasn't the intended target

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:01 am Lynch me today if y'all are going to so it doesn't come down to win lose. I accept some of my posts look scummy but it's just how I always play. Pay special attention to rym people who pretend not to know that

Why are you folding so fast? Day hasn't even started.

If you get lynched as a civ after making such a meltdown it's your fault too.

Go back to scumhunting.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:24 am

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:01 am Lynch me today if y'all are going to so it doesn't come down to win lose. I accept some of my posts look scummy but it's just how I always play. Pay special attention to rym people who pretend not to know that

Why are you folding so fast? Day hasn't even started.

If you get lynched as a civ after making such a meltdown it's your fault too.

Go back to scumhunting.

Agreed, throwing in the towel is a super poor civ move but also a pity tactic scum might try

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 01, 2018 11:13 pm Literally all my posts look civ cause I'm civ.

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:01 am Lynch me today if y'all are going to so it doesn't come down to win lose. I accept some of my posts look scummy but it's just how I always play. Pay special attention to rym people who pretend not to know that

Ok RDW let's help you

Why did you vote for Epi on day 1? Was it just to make me vote for Nutella? And why did you give up? What did you want to accomplish with that?

Why did you back down on voting for Quin on Day 4? And you did that right after Nutella voted for him.

Who is bad? ID? Who else?

I'm surprised with rdw giving up so soon it's still night phase he could not get lynched.

I don't care if scum wins anymore. I don't like being accused of being scum when I've spent this whole game trying

Kill me and let scum win quicker

I mean idk what y'all want me to do. I unvoted from quin to wigly when he looked town like everyone else did

rundontwalk wrote: ↑Fri Mar 02, 2018 12:37 pm I mean idk what y'all want me to do. I unvoted from quin to wigly when he looked town like everyone else did

That's not true, Quin didn't even post between your first vote and unvote.

What you said at the time was that you unvoted because Nutella had "hopped on your bandwagon".

As for your second vote, Quin just made one post at the time, a snarky one liner. Definitely wasn't the post that looked like town was it? But when three people came and voted for Quin, you backed down and voted for Wilgy again.

I can't explain DDL's abrupt turn in behavior. When I'm revealed as town please think about that

It hasn't been abrupt at all. He's been one of the leading posters since the beginning and has been pretty much running this thread since Jay was lynched like 3 days ago.

ou know the drill. Who turns green?
Poll ended at Fri Mar 02, 2018 9:54 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.


Hazel the Pegasus Knight
8
57%
Voters: Kylemii, Kenway, Marmot, sprityo, sig, Kites, Dragon D. Luffy, speedchuck
Bob the Mercenary
1
7%
Voters: colonialbob
Warf the Knight
0
No votes
Voters: None
Lapulie the enemy Thief
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sigmund the enemy Wyvern Rider
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kites the enemy Archer
1
7%
Voters: Iron_Dwarf
Okay but does this even do anything, Jack? Of course it does. If it only determined who was in the host posts, I’d scrap it and write about CBob and Lap. Night ends at 9:45 AM central but I’m actually free tonight and can reopen around midnight if I get actions in by then. If not, host post will be around noon when I go to lunch. (host/not playing/dead)
4
29%
Voters: Quin, JaggedJimmyJay, Scotty, Jackofhearts2005
Total votes: 14