The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 9:37 pm How bout a rainbow instead?

Jack/Marmot
Daisy
MP
Sloonei
(Big sigh)
TH
Kyle
Dunya
Wolbre
Nova


I had Kyle down as Quin’s role so that flip hurts him. I want to put TH down lower and Dunya and Kyle higher but I can’t.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 8:38 am

dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 5:32 am i mean, i feel like it's a night action, but i wanna be sure. cos the way all night kills have panned out, looks like they were all scum kills based on how Jay words next day polls. (yes, I checked them all) except for day 5 poll "Hold the pass". what does that mean? but considering Golden died on night 4, I feel like it had to have been Persia / speedchuck-led.

also now that i'm looking at everything, the kills
night 1: Epignosis
night 2: MacDougall
night 3: Dom
night 4: Golden
--after speed dies--
night 5: Choutas
night 6: cbob

-_-

Both Choutas and Bob trusted me. If I’m bad, why not kill TH, who is universally trusted but only goes after me? Or Daisy or MP, who were more trusted than Bob and Choutas and might return to the thread with a scum read on me?

Trust CBob, who said I would never bus Speed like that if we were partners.

Or go read Pirates again and see exactly how I treat Speedchuck when we’re mafia together.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:12 am For those of you just joining us, Jack and dunya are still the bad guys

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 11:01 pm #stumpin4marmot

I want you on my side against these clowns, MARSH.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:44 am It's okay dunya I take nothing personally I just think I'm the veggies in a persian sandwich atm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:12 am For those of you just joining us, Jack and dunya are still the bad guys

dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:22 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 8:38 am

dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 5:32 am i mean, i feel like it's a night action, but i wanna be sure. cos the way all night kills have panned out, looks like they were all scum kills based on how Jay words next day polls. (yes, I checked them all) except for day 5 poll "Hold the pass". what does that mean? but considering Golden died on night 4, I feel like it had to have been Persia / speedchuck-led.

also now that i'm looking at everything, the kills
night 1: Epignosis
night 2: MacDougall
night 3: Dom
night 4: Golden
--after speed dies--
night 5: Choutas
night 6: cbob

-_-

Both Choutas and Bob trusted me. If I’m bad, why not kill TH, who is universally trusted but only goes after me? Or Daisy or MP, who were more trusted than Bob and Choutas and might return to the thread with a scum read on me?

Trust CBob, who said I would never bus Speed like that if we were partners.

Or go read Pirates again and see exactly how I treat Speedchuck when we’re mafia together.

you see everything you said there? all that could be applied to me except Mac and Golden completely town read me, and cbob too. why would I kill them? why wouldn't I have killed YOU or TH or Daisy? why would I have killed off people who had me complete town reads, like Mac and Golden?

also I know speed is a busser, I don't care if you're not usually a busser. He is. This was an ideal bussing scenario. He could have told you to buss him. Don't tell me it's so far out of reach to believe please. who the fuck cares if you didn't buss him in Pirates. You didn't have to. You're acting like we're calling the sky a shade of hot pink and that's what I find so insincere about you.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:14 am It’s pretty dangerous for me to tone read a player in our first game together but I’m still gonna do it. (in ref to TH)

*goes and flips TH and dunya's placements on his rainbow*

do I speak English? maybe I misunderstood something..

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:56 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:12 am For those of you just joining us, Jack and dunya are still the bad guys

Next time I’m bad with Dunya, I’ll be sure to fight with her over everything and then point back to this game as evidence we aren’t a team. Thanks.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:49 am I don't know if I can make a joke about the last sentence as it might be against the rules and I don't want to get killed immediately haha. But I don't really have a meta because I'm all over the place

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:08 pm D1 is purely conjecture on my part until someone does something overly messy to me, but Golden and Mac seem to be interested in leading the pack and being outspoken
This is fine of course, but the later the game goes, the more I consider whether they are just leading us right into the fire

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:08 pm Also, I feel like if anyone wants to ask me a question they can because I want to clear myself as town right off the bat

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:12 pm To be honest I seriously wasn't sure if I could say "He'll yeah, I'm always indie of course" because it's essentially a softclaim, and a fake one at that. I'm not a wolf I swear

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:39 am Jack and Mac are standing out as town, they're making moves in the right direction. Glad jack appeared or I would've been willing to lynch him potentially later

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:49 pm Later in the game if I use my ability, I message JimJammyJay about it, correct?

dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:41 am wolbre iso part 1 (i'm doing this in 2 parts cos I'm going for a run now so i'll bbl for part 2)

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:49 am I don't know if I can make a joke about the last sentence as it might be against the rules and I don't want to get killed immediately haha. But I don't really have a meta because I'm all over the place

so if wolbre was 3p, he would be on the fence about answering. but if someone calls me 3p in this game and I'm not, I can easily say "no bruh, I'm not 3p" without breaking any rules.

so is wolbre 3p... ?

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:08 pm D1 is purely conjecture on my part until someone does something overly messy to me, but Golden and Mac seem to be interested in leading the pack and being outspoken
This is fine of course, but the later the game goes, the more I consider whether they are just leading us right into the fire

interesting opinion of "town leaders" - let's see how/if/when his opinion develops itt as town leaders change as I dig through his iso.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:08 pm Also, I feel like if anyone wants to ask me a question they can because I want to clear myself as town right off the bat

overkill use of the mafia emoji when trying to give himself town confidence imo but probably nai

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:12 pm To be honest I seriously wasn't sure if I could say "He'll yeah, I'm always indie of course" because it's essentially a softclaim, and a fake one at that. I'm not a wolf I swear

seems to use wolf / indie interchangeably in his line of thoughts here and that's not good to me.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:39 am Jack and Mac are standing out as town, they're making moves in the right direction. Glad jack appeared or I would've been willing to lynch him potentially later

so that didn't take long, mac and jack as town leaders now and wolbre seems to embrace it rather than feel wary about it.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 10:49 pm Later in the game if I use my ability, I message JimJammyJay about it, correct?

fake ignorance? can't say I haven't seen it before but I really don't know what kind of player wolbre is to decide if this could be used against him or not. for someone who claims the format is so easy to use because he's used to this template, he likes to play the newbie card a little too...obviously?

Spoiler: show

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:09 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 1:58 pm while we're all comfy, @Choutas @wolbre04 who are you? tell me about ur lives. who do you know

Well sig invited me here (rip him)

I've played a total of 8 mafia games in my life including this one. I've been town 7 of them(this plus 6 others) and SK the other 1
I am 5-2 with my games so far. I won as serial killer in my second game ever. Otherwise I mostly keep to myself because I've gotten Chinese fire drill lynched for expressing my opinions on other sites before after similar ones have been said (because they think I'm too sheepy) or because I scumread a town player. So generally I don't say my piece unless there's something I deem worthwhile in there.
Otherwise I only know Sig and his meta on my home site (GTF)

interesting piece of history. the guy has literally never drawn a scum card yet, so asking wolbre or anyone else how wolbre plays as scum is moot.

Spoiler: show

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:50 pm after reading up on sloonei I'm feeling progressively less inclined to believe that he's mafia, actually.
+3 points in my book. He's more of a neutral / town lean, and I don't want to mislynch again.
I'll elaborate more on this later.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:50 pm He went from being the lowest on the rainbow to near middle*

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:56 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 12:49 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:50 pm Don't bother with Sloonei for now, we have bigger fish to fry

Okay junior. Don't come in here and try to shit all over my work without explaining why all of a sudden you have such a great town read on him that you want to completely take him off the table. Explain why.

I never said he's town but I'm fairly certain he's not mafia. Refer to my post where I said I will address this later on. That doesn't mean we should ignore him, but I'm less worried about him for now. He ISNT off the table yet for me.

I'm much more sure of Colin being scum as I've mentioned him with more certainty than his buddies.
[VOTE: COLINISCOOL] aubergine

this stuff was just whack. when called about info he has on sloonei and why he was giving him so much town cred, he retracts and says he has nothing--actually he said he doesn't have a definite TOWN read on sloonei and he could still be 3p just definitely not scum. weird shit. I have no idea what he was trying to do here, but it's the only point in his favor since he went after colin day 2 when he could have gone after sloonei. I have to look at times when he went after colin and what the thread environment was like and if his lynch was inevitably on the tables at that point. I'll pick up from there and do that after my run.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:44 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 11:01 pm #stumpin4marmot

I want you on my side against these clowns, MARSH.

so TH, it's nice to sit on your high horse huh?

let's look at your voting patterns:

Day 1: votes nova, second bandwagon on day 1 with 4 votes. nova isn't lynched. sig is mislynched with 5 votes.
Day 2: votes ColinIsCool. ColinIsCool is lynched and flips scum with 14 votes on him.
Day 3: votes Choutas, a lone vote on Day 3. Avoids the Long Con and Lunalee bandwagons, with 10 and 6 votes on them respectively. LC was lynched, he was town.
Day 4: votes M Plus 7, another fucking lone vote on Day 4. Avoids the Lunalee or Spacedaisy bandwagons, with 8 and 6 votes on them respectively. Luna lynched, she was town.
Day 5: votes speedcuck. speedchuck is lynched and flips scum with 9 votes on him.
Day 6: no fucking clue, but Scotty was lynched and we know where TH stood with Scotty.
Day 7: votes JoH, a lone vote on fucking Day 7. Avoids the Quin and Marmot bandwagons. Quin lynched with 4 votes, revealed 3p aligned persian.

Someone else look at that and tell me that's normal please.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 5:41 ambeing famous for fanfic doesn't make a person town imo)

dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 6:01 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 5:32 pm Chapter 5: The SEX Chapter (Rated R For Lewd Behavior)

Spoiler: show

"ever head of 'Fuck'?" Becca asked "also isn't space neat? look at this fucking.... look at this fucke d up laser sword i have, isn't it cool how just uh.... how cool this um... hey! pokemon is here too. and anime. anime is real and is part of this fanfiction. i just met goku and he's really nice."

"interesting,here are my thoughts on all remaining players. students"

"dunya : i.... hm.... dunya has been very off and on, with her posting presence, which isn't saying much because she still has more posts than most of us. when she is around i've liked her contributions, they felt like 'dunyaposts' that didn't need any sort of.... effort to create. not to say the posts weren't work, but that didn't seem to be faking it.

Jackofhearts2005: he was influential in speedchuck's demise. given who speedchuck is as a person and the way jack went about suspecting speed, i feel like there's still some possibility of him being speed's partner who had been given permission to bus him ahead of time, as a long term Mortal Kombat style speedchuck style gambit.

Kites / Quin : hmmm, he had some real activity early but just a little. there's not much here really. i read his entire iso and i don't know what he thinks about basically anything. he says he aimed to play a more spur of the moment game and i respect that but he's spurred very few moments. if nova is bad quin probably isn't bad... it also seems like speedchuck maybe went after quin a little? this might be good to look into but not right now. after this.*

Kylemii : definitely good, and! Fun Fact: almost always smells like citrus

M Plus 7 : his most standout action was his driving a semi truck into the thread to save spacedaisy, otherwise i get a genreally earmest vibe from him.... he's not the most town looking but he's also not particularly bad looking either. he's in that awkward spot, i don't think he's a good lynch.

Marmot : i had literally 0 recollection of anything related to marmot existing in this game prior to this fanfic, yet he has 9 pages worth of posts. his interractions with colin were uninspiring. neither are his interactions with speed. there's some iso stuff that looks pretty good active, trying... i'd be interested in hearing peoples thoughts on marmot. i feel like he's been swimming under the radar and i would like him to be discussed more now that we're possibly nearing the twilight hours of this game

novaselinenever : has been farily innactive most of the game, there's some icky stuff early on especially related to colin, would be a good place to review i think.

Sloonei : i forgot that sloonei was up against colin for lynch.. sloonei kind of falls in with dunya in the same position of 'this is a player who usually drives the town train' who's been faltering, but still sorta kicking the shit out of posting a lot. when he's here he's putting a lot of effort into the kind of isos and things i expect from town sloonei.

Spacedaisy: hm.... i guess similarly to jack, jack called out speedchuck and i sorta grabbed the ball and handed it to spacedaisy, she slamducked the ball into the field zone. idk i don't see it. i don't think spacedaisy is the kind of player who'd be comfortable bussing a teammate so hard, as maybe her most tangible action in the game. i think also the mafia has had a clear strategy of culling the top contributors first, i don't think SD would want to be party to that

Turnip Head: he's a wildboy but he's posted a lot and i just... trust him i guess. he feels trusty. this is his first game back in forever and playing such a blatantly relaxed game would be crazy and.... tbh really cool and i'd be really even more impressed than i already am but, im just not feeling it.

wolbre04: this is only wolbre's 8th mafia game and all of his previous games were town games, except one where he was a serial killer, he's never been mafia before so it's possible his strange treatment of speedchuck's lynch is a result of... idk newness, but the fact that he vocalized it doesn't make sense. i feel like wolbre's most likely indie."

"great!!!" said Becca " I lovee.... NARUTO!!!! Go, Bulbarsaur! DIgimon!!!! here are some swear words i know, piss, bastard, a butt etc." she gazed out of the space station window into the ether. "i'm so glad i came to this vampire orgy college, in space, to find love."

I didn't see this before. hmmm.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 5:41 amKylemii - scum (poe: self admitted meta change,

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:51 am I have a confession to make, @Marmot

I can’t read your color coded voting logs.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 9:44 am

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sat May 12, 2018 11:01 pm #stumpin4marmot

I want you on my side against these clowns, MARSH.

so TH, it's nice to sit on your high horse huh?

let's look at your voting patterns:

Day 1: votes nova, second bandwagon on day 1 with 4 votes. nova isn't lynched. sig is mislynched with 5 votes.
Day 2: votes ColinIsCool. ColinIsCool is lynched and flips scum with 14 votes on him.
Day 3: votes Choutas, a lone vote on Day 3. Avoids the Long Con and Lunalee bandwagons, with 10 and 6 votes on them respectively. LC was lynched, he was town.
Day 4: votes M Plus 7, another fucking lone vote on Day 4. Avoids the Lunalee or Spacedaisy bandwagons, with 8 and 6 votes on them respectively. Luna lynched, she was town.
Day 5: votes speedcuck. speedchuck is lynched and flips scum with 9 votes on him.
Day 6: no fucking clue, but Scotty was lynched and we know where TH stood with Scotty.
Day 7: votes JoH, a lone vote on fucking Day 7. Avoids the Quin and Marmot bandwagons. Quin lynched with 4 votes, revealed 3p aligned persian.

Someone else look at that and tell me that's normal please.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 12:39 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:51 am I have a confession to make, @Marmot

I can’t read your color coded voting logs.

Like you don't understand what the colors mean, or you're incapable of seeing the colors, or something else?

If anything you can just use it to look at the chronology of each lynch, since our polls don't list the voters in chronological order.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 12:31 pm Kylemii mii as you know I am one of your most vocal fangirls even though I sometimes leave nasty reviews you know i luv u boo. Anyways i was hoping you could help me fill in Sloonei nei on the Jack case as I'm pretty sure we've struck gold here. If you write it in the form of fanfiction I'm sure sloon wouldnt mind

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 11:32 am I’m running out the door to work for the entire day in a minute, so I won’t be here through the night. In case I die, wolbre and kyle are still the players I’d be most inclined to vote for, but we’re getting into dangerous territory and every stone needs to be turned over. Don’t let things slip by.

A couple questions before I go:
Does anyone have any reason to suspect MP?
And can somebody, maybe @dunya or @Turnip Head lay out a case against jack that is comprehensive and easy to follow? I still have him firmly as town, and I atill have not seen a convincing argument to the contrary.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:49 am sig
5
Dom (13), M Plus 7 (15), novaselinenever (16), Marmot (17), Golden (20)

Epignosis
4
Scotty (1), Jackofhearts2005 (6), speedchuck (7), wolbre04 (9)

novaselinever
4
Turnip Head (3), MacDougall (10), sig (11), Sloonei (18)

Golden
2
Choutas (2), Lunalee (12)

dunya
2
Long Con (5), Epignosis (8)

Lunalee
2
ColinIsCool (19), Kylemii (21)

Turnip Head
1
dunya (4)

Marmot
1
Spacedaisy (14)

No Vote
2
Kites/Quin, lapluie/colonialbob

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:49 am ColinIsCool
14
Sloonei (1), wolbre04 (2), MacDougall (3), Dom (4), Quin (9), Turnip Head (10), speedchuck (11), M Plus 7 (13), Marmot (14), Jackofhearts2005 (16), Golden (17), dunya (18), Kylemii (19), novaselinenever (20)

Sloonei
3
Choutas (5), Scotty (8), ColinIsCool (12)

M Plus 7
3
colonialbob (6), Long Con (7), Lunalee (15)

No Vote
1
Spacedaisy

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:49 am Long Con
10
Golden (1), Dom (5), Scotty (8), Spacedaisy (9), speedchuck (10), Lunalee (12), Sloonei (13), Marmot (15), wolbre (16), M Plus 7 (18)

Lunalee
6
novaselinever (2), Quin (6), colonialbob (7), Jackofhearts2005 (11), Long Con (14), dunya (17)

Choutas
1
Turnip Head (3)

Kylemii
1
Choutas (4)

No Vote
1
Kylemii

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:49 am Lunalee
8
Jackofhearts2005 (4), M Plus 7 (10), Sloonei (11), colonialbob (13), Golden (14), Kylemii (15), Scotty (16), Spacedaisy (17)

Spacedaisy
6
Marmot (1), novaselinenever (2), Lunalee (5), speedchuck (6), dunya (8), Quin (9)

wolbre04
1
wolbre04 (3)

Sloonei
1
Choutas (7)

M Plus 7
1
Turnip Head (12)

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:49 am speedchuck
9
Jackofhearts2005 (1), wolbre04 (3), Kylemii (4), Choutas (5), colonialbob (7), Spacedaisy (8), Turnip Head (9), Sloonei (12), M Plus 7 (14)

novaselinenever
4
Marmot (6), Quin (10), Scotty (11), speedchuck (13)

Spacedaisy
1
novaselinever (2)

No Vote
1
dunya

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun May 13, 2018 10:49 am Marmot
4
Sloonei (3), Jackofhearts2005 (4), Quin (5), Spacedaisy (6)

Quin
4
Kylemii (7), M Plus 7 (8), wolbre04 (9), dunya (10)

dunya
1
Marmot (1)

Jackofhearts2005
1
Turnip Head (2)

No Vote
1
novaselinever