The Syndicate

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:24 pm Also it seems like there’s a lot of logic leaps going on so far this game.

For example

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:17 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:15 pm You know what annoys me? It's that a bunch of players who have the capacity to be loud, obvious, extremely solvey town have decided this game to not do much. I don't think they're all mafia so some of them are just being lazy town, and I guess real life is a thing and I've done that as town before too but it is annoying that there happen to be so many this game.

Examples include Dizzy, Ender, Seanzie, Sloonei.

Additionaly ive been thinking why scum kill the people they have killed on night 1 instead of the legendary names here such as those four, you, macdougal and nutella.

We’ve had one known mafia kill why is it odd that they didn’t target the people who are most likely to

1. Be protected or watched
2. Are town leaders who for all we know are driving town off the cliff
3. Could be tied to them

Same for Macs Logic of me being mafia means Wilgy is cleared there’s som very like early tying going on that doesn’t even make sense

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:21 pm Also everyone being discussed right now is a lower poster which is a red flag especially paired with Sabi being a high poster.

I’m betting at least one of the people who’s super active and just sowing chaos/posts is mafia

Then someone in the town core is mafia.

Then maybe a handful of slanker/low posters

This is funny because it's the thought process I'm quite literally trying to agitate against, but if you want to bring back clown hour @Guillotine and @Creature would probably welcome a great meeting of the minds with you. I'll step back and let you hunt big game. Bring us a grand pelt oh great ancient hunter.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm I’m just saying the POE being thrown around don’t make much sense and are filled with low hanging fruit so someone pushing said POE is mafia

Take yourself out of the PoE for a minute.

Who within it doesn’t make much sense and why?

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:18 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:16 pm

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:44 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:40 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:59 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:33 am Marmot
master radishes
112
S~V~S

I think HK is town on ISO. I'll defer to Alison on Guillo. I'm taking sig out because of my personal read there.

Radishes iso is bad. All four of these are wolfy.

I wish Sabi's ISO wasn't broken so I could fucking read whether any of them are spewed town lol.

Sabi's ISO is not broken. Anyone knows that Michelle is lock clear from her push in Sabi and im unaligned with Sabi for how i put Sabi on tje spot for offering a truce to Michelle, when truces are uncharacteristic of Sabi.

Because I supplied the link to the mod to fix it. No actual proof but get that out of here

this is an odd way to take this post.

Something empirically false was in the thread. At the time of Mac posting the link was broken, I checked myself. I sent Mac the correct link and then Nanook. If Guillo is going to catch wolf Mac its not for something I know to be true.

But I don't think Guillo was saying that mac was a wolf because of that, if he was that would be absolutely ludicrous

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:28 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:24 pm Also it seems like there’s a lot of logic leaps going on so far this game.

For example

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:17 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:15 pm You know what annoys me? It's that a bunch of players who have the capacity to be loud, obvious, extremely solvey town have decided this game to not do much. I don't think they're all mafia so some of them are just being lazy town, and I guess real life is a thing and I've done that as town before too but it is annoying that there happen to be so many this game.

Examples include Dizzy, Ender, Seanzie, Sloonei.

Additionaly ive been thinking why scum kill the people they have killed on night 1 instead of the legendary names here such as those four, you, macdougal and nutella.

We’ve had one known mafia kill why is it odd that they didn’t target the people who are most likely to

1. Be protected or watched
2. Are town leaders who for all we know are driving town off the cliff
3. Could be tied to them

Same for Macs Logic of me being mafia means Wilgy is cleared there’s som very like early tying going on that doesn’t even make sense

ehh
I don't think it's too unlikely that mafia have a strongman kill
(and when you have 7 people... what is the WIFOM argument)

"they could be wrong" sure I guess but also
A) Potential to re-eval
B) People would keep being wrong without those people, but they'd be more easily goadable

and the last one is, for one, completely hypothetical, and secondly, generally not a reason to not kill somebody

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:21 pm You know what I'm tired of trying to herd cats. I'm going to take a short hiatus from the game and when I return I'm going to bring back Dalai Mac.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:15 pm My god people can we just lift the bar ever so slightly on what qualifies as worth pushing? We need to focus. We've literally lost 6 town on day 2. Please do better than jumping at people cuz they suspect you. Work with me here.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:21 pm Sig stop trying to make creature happen it's not gonna happen

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:31 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm I’m just saying the POE being thrown around don’t make much sense and are filled with low hanging fruit so someone pushing said POE is mafia

Take yourself out of the PoE for a minute.

Who within it doesn’t make much sense and why?

I quite literally only see the reasoning on SVS and even that is mainly meta based.

112, isn’t super active or posting what they’ve posted all read genuine

Marmot isn’t active that’s true but they’re not always super active as town and haven’t done anything scummy.

Sean: No idea of anything they said besides that they shot and claimed. This is likely the best chance to hit mafia of the group since I could see them using the factional kill on Illyro and taking credit when they flipped 3rd party.

MR: He could be mafia but he’s more reading as overwhelmed town/maybe third party


Maybe I’m just really missing something here but I don’t see why this POE even exists and why we’re excluding certain players from it who haven’t done anything that towny yet

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:31 pmMaybe I’m just really missing something here but I don’t see why this POE even exists and why we’re excluding certain players from it who haven’t done anything that towny yet

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:33 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:21 pm Sig stop trying to make creature happen it's not gonna happen

why not?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:31 pm Marmot isn’t active that’s true but they’re not always super active as town and haven’t done anything scummy.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:33 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:31 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm I’m just saying the POE being thrown around don’t make much sense and are filled with low hanging fruit so someone pushing said POE is mafia

Take yourself out of the PoE for a minute.

Who within it doesn’t make much sense and why?

I quite literally only see the reasoning on SVS and even that is mainly meta based.

112, isn’t super active or posting what they’ve posted all read genuine

Marmot isn’t active that’s true but they’re not always super active as town and haven’t done anything scummy.

Sean: No idea of anything they said besides that they shot and claimed. This is likely the best chance to hit mafia of the group since I could see them using the factional kill on Illyro and taking credit when they flipped 3rd party.

MR: He could be mafia but he’s more reading as overwhelmed town/maybe third party


Maybe I’m just really missing something here but I don’t see why this POE even exists and why we’re excluding certain players from it who haven’t done anything that towny yet

Ok so there are some literal isos of these people in the thread based on connectivity to sabi that it seems you may have missed.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:34 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:33 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:21 pm Sig stop trying to make creature happen it's not gonna happen

why not?

And this is why I’m being paranoid about these three. Nutella keeps trying to shut me down anytime I mention Creature or Scotty both of whom could be mafia.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:33 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:21 pm Sig stop trying to make creature happen it's not gonna happen

why not?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:28 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:28 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:13 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:12 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:28 pm I like your summary and agree with all of it.

I do not like Mac giving dizzy a softball

What am I supposed to say if Dyslexicon's appraisal of the game after catch up is a near mirror image of mine? How can I articulate that in a way that doesn't ping you next time?

You know what... you might not be a wolf. But also you're a crafty bugger. Its less about Dizzy saying the things you want to hear and rather that you just towncore him for things he could just see you are saying and then proceed to say them. Maybe I am insane and need to ease up on my turbo juice

Humour me and answer the question?

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:35 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:33 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:31 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm I’m just saying the POE being thrown around don’t make much sense and are filled with low hanging fruit so someone pushing said POE is mafia

Take yourself out of the PoE for a minute.

Who within it doesn’t make much sense and why?

I quite literally only see the reasoning on SVS and even that is mainly meta based.

112, isn’t super active or posting what they’ve posted all read genuine

Marmot isn’t active that’s true but they’re not always super active as town and haven’t done anything scummy.

Sean: No idea of anything they said besides that they shot and claimed. This is likely the best chance to hit mafia of the group since I could see them using the factional kill on Illyro and taking credit when they flipped 3rd party.

MR: He could be mafia but he’s more reading as overwhelmed town/maybe third party


Maybe I’m just really missing something here but I don’t see why this POE even exists and why we’re excluding certain players from it who haven’t done anything that towny yet

Ok so there are some literal isos of these people in the thread based on connectivity to sabi that it seems you may have missed.

Who made said ISO? I’ll go back and reread but yea I don’t think I saw any for them.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:36 pm Like if Nutella had just watched Dizzy catch up and gave Dizzy a softball town read I would have called it scummy.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:06 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 10:32 pm POE

112
ender
golden
iawy
party crashers
sig

@sig if ur town can u do the things that make it obvious for me thx

I think PC's reaction to you at EoD is actually very towny if you think about it. I swear there was something else relating to claim business that also made them towny to me, but I can't find it.

Unrelated to this post, its just something I thought of when I saw Dyslexicons profile picture. Has Ender done anything back and forth with Dys? Point against if not because by now they should have sorted each other out and I have seen nothing and I have read the whole game bar catching up today

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:38 pm It intrigues me to find that Rask strongly suspected Golden and townread Marmot, but Golden has promoted the idea that Rask found Marmot/Sabi to be w/w. Seems disingenuous.

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:34 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:33 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:21 pm Sig stop trying to make creature happen it's not gonna happen

why not?

And this is why I’m being paranoid about these three. Nutella keeps trying to shut me down anytime I mention Creature or Scotty both of whom could be mafia.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:36 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:35 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:33 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:31 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm I’m just saying the POE being thrown around don’t make much sense and are filled with low hanging fruit so someone pushing said POE is mafia

Take yourself out of the PoE for a minute.

Who within it doesn’t make much sense and why?

I quite literally only see the reasoning on SVS and even that is mainly meta based.

112, isn’t super active or posting what they’ve posted all read genuine

Marmot isn’t active that’s true but they’re not always super active as town and haven’t done anything scummy.

Sean: No idea of anything they said besides that they shot and claimed. This is likely the best chance to hit mafia of the group since I could see them using the factional kill on Illyro and taking credit when they flipped 3rd party.

MR: He could be mafia but he’s more reading as overwhelmed town/maybe third party


Maybe I’m just really missing something here but I don’t see why this POE even exists and why we’re excluding certain players from it who haven’t done anything that towny yet

Ok so there are some literal isos of these people in the thread based on connectivity to sabi that it seems you may have missed.

Who made said ISO? I’ll go back and reread but yea I don’t think I saw any for them.

I don’t think this is a bad look for you (or good either, it’s nai) but before you go back I want to ask you a follow up q:

Do you think the fact you were in there was more inclined to make you view the others on the list as ‘likely to have no case’?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:13 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:11 pmI too like to vote people in their town meta.

We need to do back and forth.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:38 pm It intrigues me to find that Rask strongly suspected Golden and townread Marmot, but Golden has promoted the idea that Rask found Marmot/Sabi to be w/w. Seems disingenuous.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:39 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:38 pm It intrigues me to find that Rask strongly suspected Golden and townread Marmot, but Golden has promoted the idea that Rask found Marmot/Sabi to be w/w. Seems disingenuous.

I haven’t promoted that idea?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:38 pmBlatant misinfo when I'm 90% I've said something about Dizzy already.

That being said they haven't been in thread with me much so harder to be confident.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:15 pm You know what annoys me? It's that a bunch of players who have the capacity to be loud, obvious, extremely solvey town have decided this game to not do much. I don't think they're all mafia so some of them are just being lazy town, and I guess real life is a thing and I've done that as town before too but it is annoying that there happen to be so many this game.

Examples include Dizzy, Ender, Seanzie, Sloonei.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:41 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:38 pmBlatant misinfo when I'm 90% I've said something about Dizzy already.

That being said they haven't been in thread with me much so harder to be confident.

Hello, teammate.

Party Crasher wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:35 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:34 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:33 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:21 pm Sig stop trying to make creature happen it's not gonna happen

why not?

And this is why I’m being paranoid about these three. Nutella keeps trying to shut me down anytime I mention Creature or Scotty both of whom could be mafia.

could it not just be
nutella
as a villager
thinking that creature and scotty are also town?

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:13 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:11 pmI too like to vote people in their town meta.

We need to do back and forth.

Yes. If you're around nowish I'm just catching up. Just had my toe x-rayed to confirm I fractured it getting out of bed

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:39 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:36 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:35 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:33 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:31 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:26 pm I’m just saying the POE being thrown around don’t make much sense and are filled with low hanging fruit so someone pushing said POE is mafia

Take yourself out of the PoE for a minute.

Who within it doesn’t make much sense and why?

I quite literally only see the reasoning on SVS and even that is mainly meta based.

112, isn’t super active or posting what they’ve posted all read genuine

Marmot isn’t active that’s true but they’re not always super active as town and haven’t done anything scummy.

Sean: No idea of anything they said besides that they shot and claimed. This is likely the best chance to hit mafia of the group since I could see them using the factional kill on Illyro and taking credit when they flipped 3rd party.

MR: He could be mafia but he’s more reading as overwhelmed town/maybe third party


Maybe I’m just really missing something here but I don’t see why this POE even exists and why we’re excluding certain players from it who haven’t done anything that towny yet

Ok so there are some literal isos of these people in the thread based on connectivity to sabi that it seems you may have missed.

Who made said ISO? I’ll go back and reread but yea I don’t think I saw any for them.

I don’t think this is a bad look for you (or good either, it’s nai) but before you go back I want to ask you a follow up q:

Do you think the fact you were in there was more inclined to make you view the others on the list as ‘likely to have no case’?

Depends who makes and who supports said list

In the case of Mac who’s been ping ponging on me yes it makes me dismiss it to a degree since like I said it seems like he’s scrambling a bit.

Same for creature but that’s because I think he’s well within his mafia meta and throwing out LHF

Other people throwing around said list are less likely to be instantly voided, but again at least the trend I’ve been noticing is we seem to (On TS as a whole) either go paranoid and go after town leaders or go in the opposite and go after the low hanging fruit which that POE is filled of

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:37 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:36 pm Like if Nutella had just watched Dizzy catch up and gave Dizzy a softball town read I would have called it scummy.

I did.

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:16 pm For me the town core is:

Mac, Alison, neon, nutella, falcon and maaaaybe Sloonei. Others would probably add Urist.

My ‘I would add them but many would disagree’ list is: Kate, scotty, Lily.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:38 pm (The read was/is that I think Dizzy hasn't hit any of the wolf-notes I expect if they were wolf.)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:42 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:40 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:13 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:11 pmI too like to vote people in their town meta.

We need to do back and forth.

Yes. If you're around nowish I'm just catching up. Just had my toe x-rayed to confirm I fractured it getting out of bed

Lol, that's awful and funny.

Was it... your big toe? :3

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:44 pm Lmao sig spends several posts wondering why on earth I could possibly townread creature and then casually drops that he hasn't read creature's posts. Cute

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:39 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:42 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:39 am GN Neon.

ALso Sabi/Marmot ww confirmed

I'd call this the dream team, except no wolf team with me on it would ever be considered a dream team.

Spoiler: show

But it's my dream team

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:44 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 7:38 pm (The read was/is that I think Dizzy hasn't hit any of the wolf-notes I expect if they were wolf.)

As you said that is one post isolated from actual real timing with Dizzy. I expect more from you when dealing with Dizzy because you are confident you can read them

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:16 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:07 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:43 amSabi's list:
Scummy:
Sig
Wilgz
Porscha
Dennis
hk
Guillo

Nutellas:
could vote d1
112 (just 0post null)
dennis (actually do not want to wagon here but fits more on this side of the divide)
ender
hk
iawy
lily (also prob not)
porscha
pyxxy (fence)
svs
sabi
scotty (fence)

Sabi is bold enough to put all town in her list? Yes, HK being the only overlap rule of 3? Possibly just a wolf

Sabi being mad that Nutella has more than 2 wolves in her POE? Likely.

Sabi trying to distance from another wolf? Probable as well.

Why is Porscha green here?

...why IS porscha green there? she should be same colour as HK