The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:41 pm**

yeah poison always shoots me and I'm still alive

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:42 pm**

or sloonei :P

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:42 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:40 pm He does not appear to have a cohesive plan or a team

Yeah exactly, if he's scum like the plan is what, claim watcher who watched falcon target alison and then ??? somehow get falcon yeeted from there? I don't get it outside the perspective of town who thinks they caught scum doing something shady.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:43 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:41 pm yeah poison always shoots me and I'm still alive

Yes poison as town vig would have shot you n1 or n2 prob

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:45 pm**

Also i think the kza kill came the night following her blocking of mac. I'm more inclined to believe that kza was killed by mac.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:46 pm**

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:29 am Re-read Jack's progression and the context of some of his reads for D4 (including the fact that he had a whole reads-wall on SoD4) maybe I'm judging him a bit too harshly. I kinda wonder what made me (on his reads) jump from an "Idk" to a "Projecting town" thing by mid D2, @Jackofhearts2005 do you remember why?

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

For now.

I didn’t pay attention to you D1 and you seemed to be projecting town by mid D2.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:46 pm**

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:42 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:40 pm He does not appear to have a cohesive plan or a team
Yeah exactly, if he's scum like the plan is what, claim watcher who watched falcon target alison and then ??? somehow get falcon yeeted from there? I don't get it outside the perspective of town who thinks they caught scum doing something shady.

(we've also assigned him this role because it's the only remaining town role he could be without some serious mistruthing going on but there's absolutely nothing in grogu's iso that actually suggests this -- no mentions of watching or anything)

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:47 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:40 am just gonna go down the list until I hit someone not confirmed

alison is confirmed not wolf so you missed

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:47 pm**

ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:36 am Hey
@Jackofhearts2005
Since everyone has seemed to ignore you since D2 onwards let me enlighten you!
I think that you could be scum.
What if I told you that I took a sneak peek, and your scum.
What if I told you that you never receive this low of suspicion unless your scum.
What if I told you that I haven’t seen much from you and what exactly can you do to show me you have been Townie this game?

I’d tell you that’s mechanically impossible because I’m not and you claimed a role that iirc, doesn’t have peeks.

I’d tell you that your knowledge of my meta is out of date.

I’d refer you to my entire iso.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:48 pm**

Why are there votes on Kyle atp?

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:50 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:48 pm Why are there votes on Kyle atp?

alison is sheeping epi and epi thinks that kyle handled made poorly

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:50 pm**

And Kyle is very solidly poe

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:54 pm**

I just tried to write up a trust fall and it feels like half of the people on the list have done nothing to earn my trust

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:55 pm**

ok here are the people I just cannot come up with a reason to tr:

Kyle
Syn
Marmot

And here's chop:
Chop

wolf team?

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:58 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:41 pm yeah poison always shoots me and I'm still alive

Why?

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:59 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:41 pm yeah poison always shoots me and I'm still alive
Why?

check out that iso

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:59 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:59 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:58 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:41 pm yeah poison always shoots me and I'm still alive
Why?
check out that iso

Do I have to?

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:00 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:34 pm The correct answer is because Spacedaisy and Chop are never w/w and I’m mentally preflipping Chop

So you mean Spacedaisy/Sprityo is your teammate? Got it.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:01 pm**

can we have less snark and more solving the game

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:02 pm**

quote=Jackofhearts2005 post_id=752633 time=1615661332 user_id=541]
Why are there votes on Kyle atp?
[/quote]

people are jealous because of how handsome and cool I am

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:02 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:01 pm can we have less snark and more solving the game

Well, you kinda just said you were going to ignore Sprityo because you're pre-flipping ChopChop.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:02 pm**

and how good I am at deleting brackets

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:03 pm**

Kyle, you've proven to be poor at performing that particular task on at least one occasion

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:03 pm**

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine why is this right or wrong

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:04 pm**

Poison seems like they want to yeet Tony. So why kill him?

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:04 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:28 pm DAY 1 FINAL:

Spoiler: show
BoKnows(8)
Voters: Urist, Esooa, staypositivefriend, MartinGG99, Rej, Alison, Grogu, Sloonei

c4e5g3d5(3)
Voters: Long Con, Epignosis, Dom

ChopChop(3)
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, c4e5g3d5, Jackofhearts2005

Jackofhearts2005
Voters: DrWilgy, ChopChop

Rej(5)
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, KZA, falcon45ca, Marmot, MacDougall

staypositivefriend
Voters: DaughterOfOmega

TonyStarkPrime
Voters: BoKnows

Not Voting: Daisy, Poison, Kyle

DAY 2 FINAL:

Spoiler: show
ChopChop(4)
Voters: Kylemii, TonyStarkPrime, Alison, Sloonei

MacDougall
Voters: Epignosis

Rej(11)
Voters: KZA, Spacedaisy, MartinGG99, Marmot, Urist, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, MacDougall, Long Con, Jackofhearts2005, Grogu, staypositivefriend

Sloonei
Voters: ChopChop

Not Voting: Dom, Poison, Rej, Omega

DAY 3 FINAL:

Spoiler: show
ChopChop (5)
Voters: Made, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, KZA

Made (7)
Voters: MartinGG99, Long Con, Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Sloonei, Marmot

KZA
Voters: ChopChop

MacDougall
Voters: Dom, Grogu, Epignosis

NOT VOTING:
Voters: Urist, Poison, Daisy

DAY 4 FINAL:

Spoiler: show
ChopChop
Voters: Dom

MacDougall (6):
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, Urist, MartinGG99, Alison, Jackofhearts2005, Long Con

MartinGG99:
Voters: Kylemii

Spacedaisy:
Voters: Marmot

TonyStarkPrime (4):
Voters: Epignosis, ChopChop, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, MacDougall

Not Voting: Sprityo, Poison, Grogu

update with me putting grogu back in green to see what it looks like

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:04 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:02 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:01 pm can we have less snark and more solving the game

Well, you kinda just said you were going to ignore Sprityo because you're pre-flipping ChopChop.

yes exactly

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:05 pm**

that's not snarky that's just reality

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:05 pm**

quote=Marmot post_id=752646 time=1615662230 user_id=288
Kyle, you've proven to be poor at performing that particular task on at least one occasion
/quote

only because I was holding back

now you can see my true power

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:05 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:05 pm that's not snarky that's just reality

Not snarky no, but not exactly solving either.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:07 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:21 pm Urist is almost certainly not w/w with Made. Made made a point of needling Urist repeatedly and Urist did not appear to be in on it

I think Urist is town but I think this is dangerous reasoning. Made replaced into a slot that had been essentially been read peeked. He was in antispew for his whole career.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:07 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:05 pm quote=Marmot post_id=752646 time=1615662230 user_id=288
Kyle, you've proven to be poor at performing that particular task on at least one occasion
/quote

only because I was holding back

now you can see my true power

I feel like my quote is being taken out of context brackets

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:07 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:05 pm quote=Marmot post_id=752646 time=1615662230 user_id=288
Kyle, you've proven to be poor at performing that particular task on at least one occasion
/quote

only because I was holding back

now you can see my true power

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:08 pm**

poe: lc, dom, jack, chop, marmot, poison, Kyle
we probably have to (and probably can) take one name out of this poe to win

lesser poe: martin, daisy, epi, grogu
there's probably one wolf here. hopefully we'll find them with mech or something

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:09 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:08 pm poe: lc, dom, jack, chop, marmot, poison, Kyle
we probably have to (and probably can) take one name out of this poe to win

lesser poe: martin, daisy, epi, grogu
there's probably one wolf here. hopefully we'll find them with mech or something

Yeah, a 7-player poe aint gonna cut it.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:09 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:07 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:21 pm Urist is almost certainly not w/w with Made. Made made a point of needling Urist repeatedly and Urist did not appear to be in on it
I think Urist is town but I think this is dangerous reasoning. Made replaced into a slot that had been essentially been read peeked. He was in antispew for his whole career.

Spoiler: show
Which is why smart players like me just voted Made and skipped the rest of the day. rollsafe.png

yeah I think there's a chance made just miscalculated and didn't think he could get out of it and might have gone for this. I'm thinking more about that day from urist's perspective and also I had urist as my highest tr out of like d1 so the made stuff is just the easiest explanation point

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:10 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:09 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:08 pm poe: lc, dom, jack, chop, marmot, poison, Kyle
we probably have to (and probably can) take one name out of this poe to win

lesser poe: martin, daisy, epi, grogu
there's probably one wolf here. hopefully we'll find them with mech or something
Yeah, a 7-player poe aint gonna cut it.

idk take out dom because he's towny or jack because he's not towny and would be if he were a wolf

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:10 pm**

those are just the names I haven't been able to color yet

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:11 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:09 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:07 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:21 pm Urist is almost certainly not w/w with Made. Made made a point of needling Urist repeatedly and Urist did not appear to be in on it
I think Urist is town but I think this is dangerous reasoning. Made replaced into a slot that had been essentially been read peeked. He was in antispew for his whole career.

Spoiler: show
Which is why smart players like me just voted Made and skipped the rest of the day. rollsafe.png

yeah I think there's a chance made just miscalculated and didn't think he could get out of it and might have gone for this. I'm thinking more about that day from urist's perspective and also I had urist as my highest tr out of like d1 so the made stuff is just the easiest explanation point

welll not highest but you know

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:11 pm**

What are you talking about? I’m so townie I literally can’t rand wolf lately. Qed.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:13 pm**

Tfw you have to iso yourself because you’re sure you trust Marmot, Kyle and LC but that might be in an alternate universe.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:14 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:13 pm Tfw you have to iso yourself because you’re sure you trust Marmot, Kyle and LC but that might be in an alternate universe.

Yeah, not sure why you trust me, I've slanked lately.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:16 pm**

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:22 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:14 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:13 pm Tfw you have to iso yourself because you’re sure you trust Marmot, Kyle and LC but that might be in an alternate universe.
Yeah, not sure why you trust me, I've slanked lately.

I’m trying not to talk about other games is what I’m saying.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:23 pm**

whatever energy you planned on spending on casing me could basically be better spent helping me catch up by giving me the gossip on each character I vote for one by one until I've gone through the whole list

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:26 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:38 pm
Alison wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 1:35 pm why are you mentally preflipping chop?
Because I don’t buy the whole mech conspiracy Urist is thinking of and because all of the VCA and NKA points that way and because his posts have been consistently wolft and because his treatment of Made is heavily teammate indicative and because he literally scum slipped (and TMIed Sloonei as enclave kill etc) in the thread and we all decided he was a wolf and nothing has changed

Fake.
Also if you assume Sloon was Enclave kill then why would I message someone who was gonna die anyway?

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:27 pm**

Unless your calling me Slaver

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:28 pm**

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:24 pm [VOTE: chopchop] aubergine
I'm done

Your gonna PL me this late in the game?
It makes more sense to have done it sooner no?
Also Slaver hasn’t claimed yet and you said you wouldn’t vote me unless slaver claims.
You lair!

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:29 pm**

Me: Do I townread Marmot here on his own merits or based on another game? Let me check.

Jack’s ISO: Read list blah blah blah Marmot - I think I townread Marmit but I might be thinking of another game.

Thanks, past me. Very helpful.

A little more digging shows that I mind melded a bit with Marmot over the idea that Chop’s D1 push on me was bad but since I now believe Chop to be town, that’s not as convincing wrt Marmot’s alignment. I’ll dig some more into him later but he’s still in the poe for me.

Posted: **Sat Mar 13, 2021 3:31 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:47 pm
ChopChop wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:36 am Hey
@Jackofhearts2005
Since everyone has seemed to ignore you since D2 onwards let me enlighten you!
I think that you could be scum.
What if I told you that I took a sneak peek, and your scum.
What if I told you that you never receive this low of suspicion unless your scum.
What if I told you that I haven’t seen much from you and what exactly can you do to show me you have been Townie this game?
I’d tell you that’s mechanically impossible because I’m not and you claimed a role that iirc, doesn’t have peeks.

I’d tell you that your knowledge of my meta is out of date.

I’d refer you to my entire iso.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 13, 2021 2:48 pm Why are there votes on Kyle atp?

Thanks for responding.
What’s your read on Kyle?

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