The Syndicate

@fingersplints I have a vague suspicion when I look over the landscape of Fargo that you are mafia. I can't tell you why this is, and I don't think it's anything that you've done. But I can't help it being what it is. I'm not going to rush to a decision on you or tunnel you or anything like that. But I do need to hear from you about... stuff. Anything. I don't know what. And I know you have already talked about plenty of things in this game. So whenever you can, and to whatever extent you can, I'd love to hear your general thoughts about the game right now. Who are Marmot's teammates? Who are the best candidates to be on the Other Team? Which players (besides the mechanically cleared) are you most comfortable placing in the Town pile?

Thanks,
Doctor Sloonei, Thread Dad

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:15 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:33 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:32 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:28 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME thoughts on Oddmerta?
@Oddmerta thoughts on nanook?

I thought he was probably town d1

I haven't read any of his posts since

Why was he probably town Day 1?

I liked his tone plus sheeped read

What read was sheeped and by whom?

Strawhenge is probably my most trusted player that doesn't have a mechanical reason to be trusted.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:19 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:15 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:33 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:32 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:28 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME thoughts on Oddmerta?
@Oddmerta thoughts on nanook?

I thought he was probably town d1

I haven't read any of his posts since

Why was he probably town Day 1?

I liked his tone plus sheeped read

What read was sheeped and by whom?

I was sheeping and it was uh...I don't remember whose read it was, tbh, id have to go look

@Sloonei - how confident would you say your townread on the hally slot is?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:28 am @Sloonei - how confident would you say your townread on the hally slot is?

Exceedingly. I think there is slim to no chance that Hally is not the role we assume they are.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:30 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:28 am @Sloonei - how confident would you say your townread on the hally slot is?

Exceedingly. I think there is slim to no chance that Hally is not the role we assume they are.

i was mildly tinfoiling the slot but then i remembered that there is a very obvious reason to assume that they're town. thanks for the reminder

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:27 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:19 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:15 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:33 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:32 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:28 am @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME thoughts on Oddmerta?
@Oddmerta thoughts on nanook?

I thought he was probably town d1

I haven't read any of his posts since

Why was he probably town Day 1?

I liked his tone plus sheeped read

What read was sheeped and by whom?

I was sheeping and it was uh...I don't remember whose read it was, tbh, id have to go look

To clarify it wasn't a pure sheep it was more "i think they might be town" > "other people do too" > "now I'm more confident in it"

Nobody voting or pushing hally pretty much confirms them as Joseph's partner imo, obviously if Joseph had a different partner they wouldn't be able to CC directly but they could push on hally as a way of indirectly CCing. Nobody doing that means hally is functionally confirmed town

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:47 am Nobody voting or pushing hally pretty much confirms them as Joseph's partner imo, obviously if Joseph had a different partner they wouldn't be able to CC directly but they could push on hally as a way of indirectly CCing. Nobody doing that means hally is functionally confirmed town

Yes. If I didn't already believe it to be the case, this would be the final confirmation.

How did I end up with 2 more votes while I was asleep, what the hay guys

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:00 am How did I end up with 2 more votes while I was asleep, what the hay guys

u haven't been very townie. marmot interactions not great. You'll need to help us find a better alternative to be his teammate(s).

on that subject, have you talked about ted yet?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:33 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:52 pm i dunno, there have been games where i’ve been able to tell nook is a villa fairly easily because it’s evident he cares about his reads and stuff. this is not one of those games. i feel like he’s just going through the motions here, which tbf is probably in both ranges for him bit i think os more likely to come from w!him? so gth wolf but i’m not confident in it

this is a good summation of where i'm at with nanook - his posts don't seem to have any real conviction or fluidity between them. he's drifting, and while i dont think drifting is inherently alignment indicative for him, his town game is usually balanced with moments of genuine solving/digging into things - i struggle to see any of that reflected here

I don't think this is a fair summation of my game. I did a reasonable amount of work d1. When I had a townread (bo) potentially in danger d1 I fought against that push. I don't have any townreads in danger d2 and the game seems to mostly be on track, so I don't really feel the need to do much. Coupled with some RL stuff, I think sitting back today is fine.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:04 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:33 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:52 pm i dunno, there have been games where i’ve been able to tell nook is a villa fairly easily because it’s evident he cares about his reads and stuff. this is not one of those games. i feel like he’s just going through the motions here, which tbf is probably in both ranges for him bit i think os more likely to come from w!him? so gth wolf but i’m not confident in it

this is a good summation of where i'm at with nanook - his posts don't seem to have any real conviction or fluidity between them. he's drifting, and while i dont think drifting is inherently alignment indicative for him, his town game is usually balanced with moments of genuine solving/digging into things - i struggle to see any of that reflected here

I don't think this is a fair summation of my game. I did a reasonable amount of work d1. When I had a townread (bo) potentially in danger d1 I fought against that push. I don't have any townreads in danger d2 and the game seems to mostly be on track, so I don't really feel the need to do much. Coupled with some RL stuff, I think sitting back today is fine.

but you are a primary suspect

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:07 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 3:24 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

Self-voting is what GoC marmot did. Should i be concerned?

this is a level 0 read, but i like this interaction between JPIC and marmot quite a bit. it feels like JPIC organically latched on to something about marmot that pinged him, and i can see the thought process of: "marmot is playing similarly to GoC" reflected in the way that JPIC talks about marmot for the rest of d1. i think that is a mildly villagery look for JPIC, although not one that i would assert with confidence at the moment

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:02 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:00 am How did I end up with 2 more votes while I was asleep, what the hay guys

u haven't been very townie. marmot interactions not great. You'll need to help us find a better alternative to be his teammate(s).

on that subject, have you talked about ted yet?

I think I've been an acceptable level of townie

Idk why my Marmot interactions aren't great but ok

I don't HAVE to do anything cause I'm not dying today

I haven't talked about Ted, there isn't much to say. Him coming in quesyioning Marmot voters yesterday was weird, that's been noted to death already and me saying it too adds nothing helpful. I'm not sure how scummy it is for him, iirc he's somewhat wary of that kind of defense but I'm not confident in that being reliable. I don't think I'm good at reading ted, people I think are town or have flipped say hes scum so I'm pretty ok with just taking their reads I think

Idk I should probably read his iso but I'm probably not going to

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:05 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:04 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:33 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:52 pm i dunno, there have been games where i’ve been able to tell nook is a villa fairly easily because it’s evident he cares about his reads and stuff. this is not one of those games. i feel like he’s just going through the motions here, which tbf is probably in both ranges for him bit i think os more likely to come from w!him? so gth wolf but i’m not confident in it

this is a good summation of where i'm at with nanook - his posts don't seem to have any real conviction or fluidity between them. he's drifting, and while i dont think drifting is inherently alignment indicative for him, his town game is usually balanced with moments of genuine solving/digging into things - i struggle to see any of that reflected here

I don't think this is a fair summation of my game. I did a reasonable amount of work d1. When I had a townread (bo) potentially in danger d1 I fought against that push. I don't have any townreads in danger d2 and the game seems to mostly be on track, so I don't really feel the need to do much. Coupled with some RL stuff, I think sitting back today is fine.

but you are a primary suspect

I'm much more interested in fighting to save townreads than myself tbh

I'm not dying today so it doesn't matter

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:09 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:05 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:04 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:33 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:52 pm i dunno, there have been games where i’ve been able to tell nook is a villa fairly easily because it’s evident he cares about his reads and stuff. this is not one of those games. i feel like he’s just going through the motions here, which tbf is probably in both ranges for him bit i think os more likely to come from w!him? so gth wolf but i’m not confident in it

this is a good summation of where i'm at with nanook - his posts don't seem to have any real conviction or fluidity between them. he's drifting, and while i dont think drifting is inherently alignment indicative for him, his town game is usually balanced with moments of genuine solving/digging into things - i struggle to see any of that reflected here

I don't think this is a fair summation of my game. I did a reasonable amount of work d1. When I had a townread (bo) potentially in danger d1 I fought against that push. I don't have any townreads in danger d2 and the game seems to mostly be on track, so I don't really feel the need to do much. Coupled with some RL stuff, I think sitting back today is fine.

but you are a primary suspect

I'm much more interested in fighting to save townreads than myself tbh

I'm not dying today so it doesn't matter

who are the main townreads that you wanna shield today?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:10 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:09 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:05 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:04 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:33 am

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 11:52 pm i dunno, there have been games where i’ve been able to tell nook is a villa fairly easily because it’s evident he cares about his reads and stuff. this is not one of those games. i feel like he’s just going through the motions here, which tbf is probably in both ranges for him bit i think os more likely to come from w!him? so gth wolf but i’m not confident in it

this is a good summation of where i'm at with nanook - his posts don't seem to have any real conviction or fluidity between them. he's drifting, and while i dont think drifting is inherently alignment indicative for him, his town game is usually balanced with moments of genuine solving/digging into things - i struggle to see any of that reflected here

I don't think this is a fair summation of my game. I did a reasonable amount of work d1. When I had a townread (bo) potentially in danger d1 I fought against that push. I don't have any townreads in danger d2 and the game seems to mostly be on track, so I don't really feel the need to do much. Coupled with some RL stuff, I think sitting back today is fine.

but you are a primary suspect

I'm much more interested in fighting to save townreads than myself tbh

I'm not dying today so it doesn't matter

who are the main townreads that you wanna shield today?

Bo still, sloon even if he's being annoying and should probably know better, hally but obviously don't/won't need to, Michelle probably, maybe odd not sure, probably fingers. I think id shield straw but that's based off Jay and Joseph reading him town more than my own read. Probably you.

None of these people are in any real danger today so far, you see why I say I'm not worried lol

Like this is a list of people I woild shield, but so far none of them actually need shielding

Why are you like this

Sloonei sloonei sloonei, why you no vote ted or tsp?

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:21 am Sloonei sloonei sloonei, why you no vote ted or tsp?

Because nanook said he townreads fingersplints and I think that's a weird read so I want to give him a chance to shield her.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:21 am Sloonei sloonei sloonei, why you no vote ted or tsp?

And also because Day 2 does not end for 15 more hours.

Like, do you think I haven't been hard enough on ted this phase, Odd? Do you think I haven't done enough to engage with TSP?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:22 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:21 am Sloonei sloonei sloonei, why you no vote ted or tsp?

Because nanook said he townreads fingersplints and I think that's a weird read so I want to give him a chance to shield her.

Is it actually a weird read? She seemed really town to me

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:28 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:22 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:21 am Sloonei sloonei sloonei, why you no vote ted or tsp?

Because nanook said he townreads fingersplints and I think that's a weird read so I want to give him a chance to shield her.

Is it actually a weird read? She seemed really town to me

Yes. Why was she really town?

answer that question while i go to sleep, please and thanks

She sounds the same to me as when I locked her town d1 in bee mafia

She just has super pure tone

Maybe she can recreate it as mafia, idk, but I'm still inclined to townread it until/unless given evidence that she can copy it as mafia since most can't

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:24 am Like, do you think I haven't been hard enough on ted this phase, Odd? Do you think I haven't done enough to engage with TSP?

Hypothetical, if you were mafia who would you kill tonight?

If nobody posts with in the next 15 minutes I legally own the thread

I already licked it

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:28 am I already licked it

Curse you Nanook, maybe you are scum

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:42 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:36 am oddmerta did not directly mention marmot once throughout the entirety of d1

that's wack

I never directly mentioned you either come to think of it

Did you mention me? Asking from curiosity

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:25 pm What have we all been up to?

Playing Among Us

KZA wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:57 pm I cannot read Nanook

Same

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:02 am I do not struggle at all to see a ted/nanook/marmot team.

So the GoC scum team then

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:38 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:42 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:36 am oddmerta did not directly mention marmot once throughout the entirety of d1

that's wack

I never directly mentioned you either come to think of it

Did you mention me? Asking from curiosity

I did not

I am going to enjoy this sunny day in a park

I am still veto-ing Ted's lynch

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:15 am Beer thought: sloonei has been kinda over the top when addressing OddMerta lately

Does this mean something? Idk I hope so

Huh?

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:03 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:38 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:42 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:36 am oddmerta did not directly mention marmot once throughout the entirety of d1

that's wack

I never directly mentioned you either come to think of it

Did you mention me? Asking from curiosity

I did not

Why? What read do you have for me?

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:24 am

KZA wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:15 am Beer thought: sloonei has been kinda over the top when addressing OddMerta lately

Does this mean something? Idk I hope so

Sloonei is a wolf. It probably means that.

Why?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:09 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:03 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:38 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:42 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:36 am oddmerta did not directly mention marmot once throughout the entirety of d1

that's wack

I never directly mentioned you either come to think of it

Did you mention me? Asking from curiosity

I did not

Why? What read do you have for me?

You haven't warranted commenting on my read is you are seemingly towm defending wolves for reasons unknown

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:09 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:03 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:38 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:42 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:36 am oddmerta did not directly mention marmot once throughout the entirety of d1

that's wack

I never directly mentioned you either come to think of it

Did you mention me? Asking from curiosity

I did not

Why? What read do you have for me?

You haven't warranted commenting on my read is you are seemingly towm defending wolves for reasons unknown

How do you know they are wolves?

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:18 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:09 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:03 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:38 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:42 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:36 am oddmerta did not directly mention marmot once throughout the entirety of d1

that's wack

I never directly mentioned you either come to think of it

Did you mention me? Asking from curiosity

I did not

Why? What read do you have for me?

You haven't warranted commenting on my read is you are seemingly towm defending wolves for reasons unknown

How do you know they are wolves?

We don't know for sure but that's the game we're playing

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:22 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 3:21 am Sloonei sloonei sloonei, why you no vote ted or tsp?

Because nanook said he townreads fingersplints and I think that's a weird read so I want to give him a chance to shield her.

What did you make of Fingers ragey reaction to Falcon when he accused her of "copying" his PoE and suspects?

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:07 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 2:03 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:56 am TSP is in a weird spot - it seems there's a consensus that TSP does not fit on Team Marmot (i need to go and verify this myself), but there is still a pretty huge push for him to be the chop today. if it's true that TSP is on the Other Team, i think it is entirely possible that part of the push against TSP is being driven/signal boosted by Marmot's team. This is something that I would like to come back to and analyze when TSP gets resolved

This is not a thought I'd had. It's interesting.

But then, when I think about the Marmot team, I am perhaps getting ahead of myself, but I feel like Ted and nanook both make sense independently and in tandem with one another, so I'm not really too paranoid about them right now. Which could be a major fault on my part.

On that thought, I suppose if Ted is Team Marmot then your theory has legs.

it's notable to me that nanook, fingersplints, and ted (and oddmerta, to a lesser extent) are all on the TSP wagon. TSP has high equity to be a wolf but the majority of the people on his wagon are people that i've also found to have high wolf equity. that indicates to me that the POE is slightly off or that the teams are pushing against each other. i lean on the latter being the case, although it is just speculation until we see more flips

This is interesting

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:20 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:18 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:12 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:09 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 6:03 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 5:38 am

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 1:42 am

I never directly mentioned you either come to think of it

Did you mention me? Asking from curiosity

I did not

Why? What read do you have for me?

You haven't warranted commenting on my read is you are seemingly towm defending wolves for reasons unknown

How do you know they are wolves?

We don't know for sure but that's the game we're playing

Looks like i play a different game
I am concerned because this consensus seems not natural