The Syndicate

muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:37 pm I will put info in here in 5 minutes unless I hear a good reason why I shouldn't.

5 minutes aye

One hour and seventeen minutes later...

Civilian confirmed.

I didn't do the pie plan anyway

muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:54 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:37 pm I will put info in here in 5 minutes unless I hear a good reason why I shouldn't.

5 minutes aye

What's your issue?

Lol, I give up on this night. I’m going away for a bit. Later

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:14 pm Lol, I give up on this night. I’m going away for a bit. Later

Do you have any objection to a sabie lynch?

What was your reason for voting Sabie again?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:01 pm I just had a look at the way the eod unfolded and I think the POE that infodumping here creates is too good to pass up.

Lunalee was a witch.

My case on Sabie is based on my perceiving her being compatible with Luna.

Cool cool

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine

Actually during the poll I was considering between Luna and mac and at the time thought mac seemed more sketchy. If hes being truthful about his claim all it says is that I didn't vote for one of the witches, which is not really a case against me. Other people also have thought mac was suspicious besides me.
I mean is it possible that the person who had that role check role was killed off then anyone could claim it without a counter claim?

Also epi had kind of claimed to be the one who role checks earlier but no one had really responded to it that I can recall.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:50 pm Jackofhearts2005 you were lurking and said nothing. Why?

Whatchu talking about?

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:00 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:25 pm

muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:07 pm Instead dog continuously giving out Town Reads why not start giving out your scum reads.

I'd say the two that come to mind are Mac for not wanting share his reasoning on wanting Sabie lynched.

Spirityo for falling the lynch I don't believe I even see any indication for a FoS

Jack D0/1 was mostly compiled with Fluff and this DP seems to be Role Fishing

I placed a vote on Mac

Tell me what specifically about my plan is bad. Cause you characterizing it as role fishing implies you think it’s a fake plan designed to out roles.

Did I miss a plan you put forward?

This is the plan Muugen is objecting to.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:54 am

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:44 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:42 am

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:38 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:30 am

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:00 am I hate that I'm the only one here most mornings.

G’morning.

Hi Jack, any thoughts this morning? About anything.

Wait until D3 and then cop and oracle out to give us the game situation?

Scum won’t bus in this game because it gets them no cred so outing a scum through either of these roles should be extra useful. Outted townies give the angels direction.

You're saying you want the cop and the oracle to out themselves D3 or am I misunderstanding?

I do.

If the oracle reveals we’ve already lynched a scum and the cop gives a second scum, knowing that there is one wolf left, who one of their teammates is and that the other teammate is one of these two players gets us really close to a win situation and is worth sacrificing two townies. The alternative is bumbling around blindly with only one wolf left and probably mislynching anyway.

If the situation is worse (can’t afford to lose those roles, more likely to hit a wolf due to a higher wolf to town ratio) then they shouldn’t out. Like if the oracle sees there are 3 wolves or the cop only has now dead townies as results.

Objections?

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:44 pm Y’all gotta stop putting words in my mouth, The only thing allowed in there is food, water, and my opinions

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:47 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:44 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:44 pm What would you do?

Choosing to be unhelpful at this juncture is a very bad look.

Yeah.

I haven't gotten to your claim yet but Nova's reaction to your hinting is townie and Sloonei's reaction to it is scummy.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:49 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:47 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:44 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:44 pm What would you do?

Choosing to be unhelpful at this juncture is a very bad look.

I don’t know what you’re going through and I’ve put minimal thought into this game or its setup. Do what you think is best. You don’t need my input.

I asked for it though. I perceive it as a critical moment for the civilian win con and want a discussion.

Or we can trust you and lynch your suspect without having you claim. That you’re prepared to claim at all might be enough for me.

What's stopping a witch from fake-claiming an info? No flips, counter-claim get soup-killed.

I'll trade one townie for one wolf all day every day.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:07 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:03 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:03 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:49 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:46 pm Yo spill it out. The number of roles that could have information is low, you're a dead man walking if you're truthful.

Linki

You witch.

What's the hurry? The day is young. I don't want to do it and then have someone make a really logical argument as to why I shouldn't have.

Fair enough. Don’t rush. I suppose it could make a difference if there are multiple info roles, I just assumed one in particular.

Do you even linki?

Doesn’t work properly on phone. Deal with it.

Lies.

You just have to scroll.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:18 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:16 pm I agree with your assessment of Sabie in relation to Luna. Question, how likely do you think she was to include her teammate in her top three people she’d be interested in lynching list?

Given she had barely mentioned Jack and then didn't elaborate like at all ...

That would make it a Tuesday.

Didn't you play in Addams Family?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:20 pm And given Jack voted for me and left his vote there all day despite literally saying he didn't suspect me

Didn't you play in Adams Family?

This game is maj and days end between kid pickup and kids to bed. I forgot to move before the deadline and my vote didn't make a difference. We were several votes off from lynching anyone.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:21 pm Sprit and Epi are front-runners for scum compatibility with a potential witch Luna.

Why?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:20 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:18 pm That's underwhelming.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:18 am I'll just assume we got a baddie to keep the D1 streak alive

TMI

Epignosis wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:26 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:25 pm Who did you check Mordefly?

No one. I'm rocking this shit MacDougall style.

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sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:26 pm Yeah let me openly rubs nuts with epi out in public.

Be right back. I need to...go to the bathroom.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:17 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:47 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:44 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:44 pm What would you do?

Choosing to be unhelpful at this juncture is a very bad look.

Yeah.

I haven't gotten to your claim yet but Nova's reaction to your hinting is townie and Sloonei's reaction to it is scummy.

I was dropped into the game like 2 hours earlier with the foreknowledge that I wasn’t gonna go all out, and I had not read anything except for the ongoing conversation. Mac started asking me for advice on something I had the vaguest understanding of. What did you want me to say?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:37 pm I will put info in here in 5 minutes unless I hear a good reason why I shouldn't.

Soup?

You say “Idk, Mac” several times but you also said “Don’t do it, Mac” here.

It’s not about knowing the setup. It’s about having a position that I disagree with and then walking it back and shrugging instead of supporting it.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:36 pm

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:35 pm The easiest way around it simple, we can follow mac on his hunch. And if the vig activates ktonight that means that Luna was a civ and we lynched another civ today.

Brick doesn't count as a mislynch.

I believe Mac so yesterday doesn’t matter but that’s just more reason to make sure we lynch today.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:19 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:38 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:37 pm I will put info in here in 5 minutes unless I hear a good reason why I shouldn't.

Soup?

You say “Idk, Mac” several times but you also said “Don’t do it, Mac” here.

It’s not about knowing the setup. It’s about having a position that I disagree with and then walking it back and shrugging instead of supporting it.

He specifically asked for arguments to the contrary. Does “Soup?” strike you as an impassioned argument?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:08 pm I didn't do the pie plan anyway

Sorry, needy child making it hard for to reply the last day or so.

Epignosis - I'm not too familiar with most players, so maybe this is just how he plays, but I don't really get epis style right now. It doesn't seem particularly helpful, a lot of which is just him bitching about the game. Also, did he role claim mordecai? No one seems to be talking about that, or if they are they are asking the same question "did that just happen" and no one is discussing. Scum reading for now.

@Sprityo - why are you hung up on Brick and his kill? From what I'm reading of the roles, Brick has no special ability other than being able to choose who to kill in the event there is no majority vote. It's just one players opinion, so why would it be important?

@Sloonei - why did you want to hold off on Mac roleclaiming? He had already outed himself at that stage, so telling him to hold off on intel seemed pointless if he was telling the truth and guarateed to die tonight. Slight scum read for me.

I am inclined to believe Mac for now and see how that plays out. I wasn't sure about him yesterday, so I stuck with Luna, but he seems to be genuinely contributing today. Not sure I get the Sabie thing and I'm not sure how much I trust some of the players voting for them. Going to go back and do some reading cause Sabie kind of snuck under my radar.

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:44 pm Epignosis - I'm not too familiar with most players, so maybe this is just how he plays, but I don't really get epis style right now. It doesn't seem particularly helpful, a lot of which is just him bitching about the game. Also, did he role claim mordecai? No one seems to be talking about that, or if they are they are asking the same question "did that just happen" and no one is discussing. Scum reading for now.

That's because I'm not being particularly helpful.

Why should anyone be discussing my Mordeclaim?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:53 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:44 pm Epignosis - I'm not too familiar with most players, so maybe this is just how he plays, but I don't really get epis style right now. It doesn't seem particularly helpful, a lot of which is just him bitching about the game. Also, did he role claim mordecai? No one seems to be talking about that, or if they are they are asking the same question "did that just happen" and no one is discussing. Scum reading for now.

That's because I'm not being particularly helpful.

Why should anyone be discussing my Mordeclaim?

Please don't beat me, sir.

I don't know, you seem to be roleclaiming but with 0 helpful information and if you were actually that particular role you'd be setting yourself up to be killed which doesn't help civillians at all if you were mordecai?

Read back through sabies posts and I'm really not sure. It's like Mac vs. Sabie. I'm willing to give Mac the benefit of the doubt tonight to see if his info is good. If he doesn't die over night then I guess we know?

I am confused by everyone else’s confusion over my responses to Mac. It’s entirely possible/guaranteed thay I was missing a key piece of context, but I did not intend to tell him not to share intel. The entirety of my point was that he has already indicated that he had information, and that was enough for me. Sharing his specific role was not a necessary step.

I have not read most of the thread and I do not intend to.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:13 pm I have not read most of the thread and I do not intend to.

Scum.

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:26 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:13 pm I have not read most of the thread and I do not intend to.

Scum.

#downwithketchup

I was holding out to see if more players would check in and make their votes before I went to bed because we need that majority vote. Like I said in my other posts, I'm going to go on Mac with this one and see if he comes through.

Vote Jack of Hearts.

All right I'm back

That was quick.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:59 pm [VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine

Why?

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:06 pm I was holding out to see if more players would check in and make their votes before I went to bed because we need that majority vote. Like I said in my other posts, I'm going to go on Mac with this one and see if he comes through.

Vote Jack of Hearts.

Why?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:21 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:59 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:53 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:49 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:47 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 9:44 pm

Choosing to be unhelpful at this juncture is a very bad look.

I don’t know what you’re going through and I’ve put minimal thought into this game or its setup. Do what you think is best. You don’t need my input.

I asked for it though. I perceive it as a critical moment for the civilian win con and want a discussion.

Or we can trust you and lynch your suspect without having you claim. That you’re prepared to claim at all might be enough for me.

What's stopping a witch from fake-claiming an info? No flips, counter-claim get soup-killed.

I'll trade one townie for one wolf all day every day.

Optimistic.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:31 am

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:21 pm Sprit and Epi are front-runners for scum compatibility with a potential witch Luna.

Why?

Do you actually want the answer to this? If you were, you'd know that the answer would probably be somewhere down and probably quote that one. Seems to me that you're just flooding the thread with questions and quick remarks going off others posts to generate contribution. Doesn't feel like the genuine posting while catching up

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 7:53 am Actually during the poll I was considering between Luna and mac and at the time thought mac seemed more sketchy. If hes being truthful about his claim all it says is that I didn't vote for one of the witches, which is not really a case against me. Other people also have thought mac was suspicious besides me.
I mean is it possible that the person who had that role check role was killed off then anyone could claim it without a counter claim?

Also epi had kind of claimed to be the one who role checks earlier but no one had really responded to it that I can recall.

All your contribution so far is centered around Mac. Mac being weird, Mac suspecting you, you suspecting Mac, Mac claiming. Do you have any other thoughts?

Where's supa town Sprityo?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:59 pm [VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine

Why?

Oh the handful of players that I’ve interacted with directly, he seems the most full of poop. Plus he’s on Mac’s compatibility list.

He moved the goal posts on his shading of me in just a couple of posts, and it felt as though he was more concerned with painting me in a negative light than actually developing a read.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:06 pm I was holding out to see if more players would check in and make their votes before I went to bed because we need that majority vote. Like I said in my other posts, I'm going to go on Mac with this one and see if he comes through.

Vote Jack of Hearts.

Why?

I've given my opinion on who I'm feeling slightly scummish on, I've also made it clear that I am interested in what Mac is saying. He's pretty convinved that he will be killed tonight for claiming a role, and I've liked what he's had to say today, if what he says doesn't happen tonight then he's outed himself and we lynch him tomorrow.

I don't have a great read on Jack anyway, so I'm okay with this lynch.

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:28 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Neverwhere wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:06 pm I was holding out to see if more players would check in and make their votes before I went to bed because we need that majority vote. Like I said in my other posts, I'm going to go on Mac with this one and see if he comes through.

Vote Jack of Hearts.

Why?

I've given my opinion on who I'm feeling slightly scummish on, I've also made it clear that I am interested in what Mac is saying. He's pretty convinved that he will be killed tonight for claiming a role, and I've liked what he's had to say today, if what he says doesn't happen tonight then he's outed himself and we lynch him tomorrow.

I don't think you're understanding Mac's info correctly. Mac has no info on Jack, nor Sabie. He has info on Luna being a Witch, so I'm not sure why would you justify your vote as trusting his info and what he's saying.

Linki - Lol

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:27 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:20 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Apr 13, 2019 5:59 pm [VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine

Why?

Oh the handful of players that I’ve interacted with directly, he seems the most full of poop. Plus he’s on Mac’s compatibility list.

He moved the goal posts on his shading of me in just a couple of posts, and it felt as though he was more concerned with painting me in a negative light than actually developing a read.

Is he on your compatibility list?

Who else is full of poop?