The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:05 pm Rej was unwilling to vote Dragomir. That's important in my mind.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:07 pm JJJ says " Conclusion: Overall, I doubt Dragomir was Rej's teammate. Rej's own posts speak more loudly to that than Dragomir's do."

I do not agree with that at all.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:08 pm Dom's hunting effort to this point is comprised entirely of this:

Giving Dragomir a bunch of shit.

Giving Rej a little bit of shit.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:01 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:42 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:22 pm Dom would be my "darkhorse" pick at the moment. While he didn't sound disingenuous, the objective criteria still stands as something he'll have to answer to. He contributed vocally to some of the suspicion of Rej, but his vote never wavered from Dragomir. He wasn't around late in the day; I do think he was here late enough to begin to reconsider his take on Dragomir at least.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:10 pm Ugh this complicates things

i hate agreeing with you bc reasons
but i agree with you

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:34 pm I will say that my initial instinct coming into this Day 2 was to vote again for Dragomir. I still have grievances there.

I also agree with this.

I'm going to go ahead and just call you a suspect straight up. We don't need "darkhorse".

I don't like this post.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:11 pm Epi, I'd be interested in your take on nutella -- whenever you get there.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:22 pm I have a take on nutella: civilian.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:15 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:11 pm Epi, I'd be interested in your take on nutella -- whenever you get there.

I already expressed one:

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 13, 2019 9:22 pm I have a take on nutella: civilian.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:18 pm I rather think you're uncomfortable being "outside the POE" as it were. That's what is happening. JJJ is "outside the POE."

I'm comfortable with nutella, Dom, nova, and Fayt.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:21 pm Talk to me about Dragomir, JJJ. Would you vote for him?

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:22 pm Notice that Jay never asked me to clarify a damn thing. No elucidiation necessary with me.

Why did he afford Fayt and Dragomir those luxuries?

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:21 pm JJJ just sent me flying from dark horse over my initial catch up post because I agreed that my day one suspect was still my number one suspect.

Discuss.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:38 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:27 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:38 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:54 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:43 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:41 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:34 pm I will say that my initial instinct coming into this Day 2 was to vote again for Dragomir. I still have grievances there.

Why?

Because I still have grievances there. Damn can't you read?

What are those grievances? I'm interested. I had earlier grievances with his initial entrance and the stubbornness that led to you activated my trap card moment, but I've been reconsidering that since he opened up with his LC suspicion. There is also Rej's handling of him and his bold defense of Rej that makes him look good.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:55 pm Dragomir's been basically the focal point of D1 and he didn't even get lynched lol

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:55 pm @Dom What's your beef with Drago?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:25 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:21 pm JJJ just sent me flying from dark horse over my initial catch up post because I agreed that my day one suspect was still my number one suspect.

Discuss.

Exactly. You're not doing anything, and you're not solving anything. The game is moving forward, and I have not seen anything from you that suggests you have the intention of figuring out who the cats are. You decided Dragomir was one and then farted around.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:28 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:27 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:38 pm [VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

Take a stance on me immediately.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:29 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:25 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:21 pm JJJ just sent me flying from dark horse over my initial catch up post because I agreed that my day one suspect was still my number one suspect.

Discuss.

Exactly. You're not doing anything, and you're not solving anything. The game is moving forward, and I have not seen anything from you that suggests you have the intention of figuring out who the cats are. You decided Dragomir was one and then farted around.

You're not solving anything either.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:56 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 6:20 pm I don't get the scumreads on Dragomir. Sounds a bit forced by JJJ and novas, also it was quite a speedy jump.

Still think this screams of TMI. Generic mafioso keeping his distance from an incorrect angry mob before they mislynch Dragomir. He even built in eventual landing points for his finger of blame.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:29 pm Don't love nova ignoring my entire day one post history where I very clearly say what my beef with Drago is.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:58 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:56 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:14 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:10 pm Ugh this complicates things

Does any part of that case surprise you?

I haven't read it. I am just not welcoming of it. I was enjoying the game and Epi vs. Jay is tiring af and repetitive.

I am a Master of Zen this game. I sort of took it from your late-stage play in the finale, actually. I may engage in debate, I may be accused like nobody ever before, and I may be inclined to respond -- but this will not become toxic. I refuse.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:32 pm I am glad to hear it. Sorry for calling you a rock ape but don't make demands of me that are pointless.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 4:35 pm Interactions: Rej and Dom

Rej

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Rej wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:24 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:15 am Do you always use mobile, Rej?

no right now I am on desktop (home), but I often read posts at work (mobile) and sometimes I need to interact during work
why do you ask?

Blank chatter, don't care.

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Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 12:40 pm I think more ISO on Mac is not needed. I wanna look into Dom vs Drago but first I will play Overwatch with a friend. So I will still track you guys until EoD.

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 3:01 pm No need for Dom ISO, that guy looks pretty townish since he became active in the Drago suspicion train.
But I ask myself if @Dom has some other reads, like some read on Mac (bringing back Mac because I think Dom was asked about Mac before and he had no read about him back then).

Rej stood in Dom's camp here (albeit with the little "But I ask" addendum at the end, doesn't mean a lot to me). That Rej specifically declared an intention to ISO Dom and then came back saying he didn't feel the need anymore, Dom just looks townish -- I think that is a decent look for Dom. If a mafioso is trying to prop up a teammate, I kind of doubt it takes this shape. Instead of projecting an ISO and then saying nevermind, they just produce the ISO (or some concrete post) and provide evidence to support the town read.

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Dom

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Dom wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 10:26 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:18 pm Drago is town

Rej is cat. "I don't understand the case" is scumtell sometimes

eye have missed u friend

i also like half of this post a whole lot.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:20 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:18 pm Drago is town

Rej is cat. "I don't understand the case" is scumtell sometimes

Super weak reason against one. "I don't understand the case" is not at all alignment indicative and can be said by anyone regardless of alignment. Like how could you use that as a scum tell? I don't get it.

bullsuit
yeah it CAN be.
I think rej has no intentions of understanding the case though.

Context clues suggest that Dom is referring to TH's Rej mafia read with "half of this post". He expands on that himself; the stance is distinctly anti-Rej.

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Dom wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:41 am

Rej wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:00 am JJJ and Mac look worser than before.
Fayt is ok.
Epi is also ok.

y tho

Further prodding.

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Conclusion: What exists here is mostly in Dom's favor I think, if not necessarily substantive. One issue that Dom should speak to lies with his vote, which remained on Dragomir as he made his vocal motions against Rej. Dom's last post was about 6 hours before the deadline, so keep in mind that he wasn't around for the late developments.

Gun to my head, he's a dog.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:33 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:32 pm I am glad to hear it. Sorry for calling you a rock ape but don't make demands of me that are pointless.

That's not a pointless demand, Mac. I'm asking you to take a stance on a guy that has received two votes, leads the game in posts by a ton, and has been the subject of posts you have just made.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 pm Jay-- you give people virtually no time to think or respond. I do not sit at the computer and eagerly await your response. I play Star Wars Battlefront 2.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 pm I don't think Epi's case on Jay holds much water at all. Nothing that was pointed out is outside of Jay's town play. It's still a mild town tick for Epi though. I still think Jay is town.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 pm JJJ tells me to refer to his post where he discusses my alignment.
He concludes here I am civ.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 pm I don't think Epi's case on Jay holds much water at all. Nothing that was pointed out is outside of Jay's town play. It's still a mild town tick for Epi though. I still think Jay is town.

I largely agree. I think it just means that Jay's analysis isn't fool proof.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:35 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 pm Jay-- you give people virtually no time to think or respond. I do not sit at the computer and eagerly await your response. I play Star Wars Battlefront 2.

Thank you, you can be a town read.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:37 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:35 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 pm I don't think Epi's case on Jay holds much water at all. Nothing that was pointed out is outside of Jay's town play. It's still a mild town tick for Epi though. I still think Jay is town.

I largely agree. I think it just means that Jay's analysis isn't fool proof.

Jay is allowed to be wrong if he is town. He'll corner the wolves and squeeze them out eventually.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:36 pm Rej:

"Back to JJJ : I feel you are way too agressive to get a clear civ read from me. I dont know how scum profits from this but we got 2 fast wagons started up. And I feel town does not profit from these wagons. We still have time and need to wait for some replies."

This is a bullshit thing to say. This is one teammate communicating to another.

I'm sorry JJJ, but you got to go.

Dom wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:34 pm Jay-- you give people virtually no time to think or respond. I do not sit at the computer and eagerly await your response. I play Star Wars Battlefront 2.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Oct 16, 2019 11:39 pm Jay is a good player. How is it in his strategic best interests as scum to play in such a way that results in Rej being lynched? If Jay didn't want Rej lynched, Rej would be alive. I don't think we lynch a wolf on day 1 if Jay is a wolf pretty much in any game ever tbh.