The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:15 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:12 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:10 pm If I’m gonna be serious for a minute, I just don’t have high confidence reads rn. If you want me to RNG some I can do that, but if I presented anything as high confidence I’d be lying.

I don't need or want high confidence reads. Hell, I don't even need reads. I just like to know what people are thinking about each other.

What you think about someone in a game related sense is a read, yeah?

I suppose. But what I mean is I don't need you to say "I think nova is town/scum." I'm just looking for "nova did these things and I felt something about it." If you can turn that into a definitive stance, groovy. If not, it's still enough to work with.

What you just described is a read.

A bunch of people have done a bunch of things, and I feel ambivalent about most if not all of it.

Ambivalent in a game related sense. Obviously I have strong and irreversible personal opinions on all of you that don’t relate to your alignment this game.

Voting for Dom feels like a shrug. I am not inclined to cast a shrug vote on Day 1 for a player like Dom. He's going to give us more content to assess later on regardless of his alginment.

boo's case against Colin seems to hinge upon, or at least imply, that we are bad together. I can't vote for that case. I think I like that boo presented the case, though.

DDL, Drago, and Rej are three names I've seen floated in conversations. Who wants to ketch me up to speed on them?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:17 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:15 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:12 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:10 pm If I’m gonna be serious for a minute, I just don’t have high confidence reads rn. If you want me to RNG some I can do that, but if I presented anything as high confidence I’d be lying.

I don't need or want high confidence reads. Hell, I don't even need reads. I just like to know what people are thinking about each other.

What you think about someone in a game related sense is a read, yeah?

I suppose. But what I mean is I don't need you to say "I think nova is town/scum." I'm just looking for "nova did these things and I felt something about it." If you can turn that into a definitive stance, groovy. If not, it's still enough to work with.

What you just described is a read.

A bunch of people have done a bunch of things, and I feel ambivalent about most if not all of it.

Can you describe any of this ambivalence?

Damn yo, I just got back from picking my kids up from karate. I wasn't gone that long.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:20 pm Voting for Dom feels like a shrug. I am not inclined to cast a shrug vote on Day 1 for a player like Dom. He's going to give us more content to assess later on regardless of his alginment.

boo's case against Colin seems to hinge upon, or at least imply, that we are bad together. I can't vote for that case. I think I like that boo presented the case, though.

DDL, Drago, and Rej are three names I've seen floated in conversations. Who wants to ketch me up to speed on them?

He actually clarified that he didn't mean you were necessarily Colin's teammate (I had interpreted it that way as well) -- he figured that any scum might have pointed out jay's thing in btsc. Kinda weird thing to assume without the attached assumption that jay was on the team, but whatever, it's what he said.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:21 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:17 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:15 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:13 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:12 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:10 pm If I’m gonna be serious for a minute, I just don’t have high confidence reads rn. If you want me to RNG some I can do that, but if I presented anything as high confidence I’d be lying.

I don't need or want high confidence reads. Hell, I don't even need reads. I just like to know what people are thinking about each other.

What you think about someone in a game related sense is a read, yeah?

I suppose. But what I mean is I don't need you to say "I think nova is town/scum." I'm just looking for "nova did these things and I felt something about it." If you can turn that into a definitive stance, groovy. If not, it's still enough to work with.

What you just described is a read.

A bunch of people have done a bunch of things, and I feel ambivalent about most if not all of it.

Can you describe any of this ambivalence?

Yes. It’s a very neutral grey and dresses in very nondescript clothes and has a very anonymous face.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:22 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:20 pm Voting for Dom feels like a shrug. I am not inclined to cast a shrug vote on Day 1 for a player like Dom. He's going to give us more content to assess later on regardless of his alginment.

boo's case against Colin seems to hinge upon, or at least imply, that we are bad together. I can't vote for that case. I think I like that boo presented the case, though.

DDL, Drago, and Rej are three names I've seen floated in conversations. Who wants to ketch me up to speed on them?

He actually clarified that he didn't mean you were necessarily Colin's teammate (I had interpreted it that way as well) -- he figured that any scum might have pointed out jay's thing in btsc. Kinda weird thing to assume without the attached assumption that jay was on the team, but whatever, it's what he said.

I see. I don't feel very inspired by the case either way. I haven't really looked at Colin at all outside of this, though.

I remain staunchly pro-catchup (ambivalent on the similarly named condiment) because this is why I have to explain things to Sloonei after they've already been addressed

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:24 pm I remain staunchly pro-catchup (ambivalent on the similarly named condiment) because this is why I have to explain things to Sloonei after they've already been addressed

But then I'd have to read words and that's boring.

i am not presently reading any words. i'm just guessing.

For everyone who is here: Present Dom is not on the poll. Who do you vote for?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:25 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:24 pm I remain staunchly pro-catchup (ambivalent on the similarly named condiment) because this is why I have to explain things to Sloonei after they've already been addressed

But then I'd have to read words and that's boring.

is this the English major equivalent of math majors claiming they can't do basic arithmetic anymore

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:25 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:24 pm I remain staunchly pro-catchup (ambivalent on the similarly named condiment) because this is why I have to explain things to Sloonei after they've already been addressed

But then I'd have to read words and that's boring.

is this the English major equivalent of math majors claiming they can't do basic arithmetic anymore

Yes. Words are beneath me.

I don't have an issue with DDL's posts.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:28 pm I don't have an issue with DDL's posts.

Do you have a reason to distinctly town read him?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:27 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:25 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:24 pm I remain staunchly pro-catchup (ambivalent on the similarly named condiment) because this is why I have to explain things to Sloonei after they've already been addressed

But then I'd have to read words and that's boring.

is this the English major equivalent of math majors claiming they can't do basic arithmetic anymore

I know someone who was a Princeton math major and can’t count to 8

Wait you know him too

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:30 pm Wait you know him too

oh really

Anyone thinking about voting Sloonei? Is that an option?

I'm just here to chat with nanook, the rest of yall can choose which random non-speedchuck person you're lynching for no reason

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:30 pm Wait you know him too

oh really

It’s elli lol

boo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:31 pm Anyone thinking about voting Sloonei? Is that an option?

I would tbh

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:31 pm I'm just here to chat with nanook, the rest of yall can choose which random non-speedchuck person you're lynching for no reason

I dig it tbh

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:32 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:30 pm Wait you know him too

oh really

It’s elli lol

haaaaa lolol

boo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:31 pm Anyone thinking about voting Sloonei? Is that an option?

It is not.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:32 pm

boo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:31 pm Anyone thinking about voting Sloonei? Is that an option?

I would tbh

You always would.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:32 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:32 pm

boo wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:31 pm Anyone thinking about voting Sloonei? Is that an option?

I would tbh

You always would.

Yeah but like I actually would here. I suspected your slot even before you subbed in. If nobody is going to join me on speed, I'm more likely to hop on a wagon on you than one on dom/ddl/drago/rej/whoever

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:32 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:32 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:30 pm Wait you know him too

oh really

It’s elli lol

haaaaa lolol

We were playing video mafia one night and he brought out cards to distribute roles...we got to 8 and hear “wait, shit, I have an extra card, we have to start over guys.”

It was not a one off situation.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:27 pm For everyone who is here: Present Dom is not on the poll. Who do you vote for?

Leaning toward Nanook tbh but I can be persuaded of most anything at this juncture

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:29 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:28 pm I don't have an issue with DDL's posts.

Do you have a reason to distinctly town read him?

I'll townlean him. His posts were pretty engaged. Some good thoughts.

Cue AtE:

Would be kinda rude to kill me after I got dragged into playing this game tbh

End AtE

Quick glance at Rej

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:51 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:08 pm

Rej wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:53 pm

sig wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:57 pm Considering 17 players usually means 4 mafia in a town v mafia singleball but also considering this site is weird, I'd say 3 mafia with chances of a handful of third parties

I could see that, I don't recall ever playing a Nova game though which does make it a bit more murky.

I'd say 3-4 mafia and two third parties probably with survivorish roles, I don't think the game could support a SK given how small it is and there being role reveals. It's also possible one of the third parties is a mechanism against role claiming, if they're not I'd be wary of the mafia having a role that could punish a player for revealing info/claiming.

the way you imply he third parties being survivorish is worrying me
I note it down

It's an obvious assumption to make given the player pool.

1.5 years mafia experience, and I havent ever seen someone comming D0 implying that third parties might be survivorish. Lmao, this is scummy af and I dont know how else to judge this random wild assumption.

I just think that you could be harmful (possible third) who tries to downplay the scum/thirds in general in this game.

Thats why I said noteworthy.

This is an odd post. I've never played with Rej and I don't know where else he's played, but I'm not inclined to read sig in the way that Rej is proposing here. It seems like an odd thing to latch onto for what appears to be Rej's first read of the game.

Rej wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 7:59 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:27 am

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 1:04 am

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Dec 08, 2019 6:14 pm Lol creature is town

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Eh?

Dom probably suspects you of basing your town gutread on Creature on TMI. (My first guess).
I also give Creature a townread, but he set his vote and he was quite engageful. Tho my read on him bases on post-voting.

Why did you give him a towncard?

I also don't know why he responded to this. [mention]Rej[/mention] why did you respond to this?

DDL posted a fairly length case on Rej and he responded with this, which... does not really address anything. He just kinda shrugs at DDL's point about his stance(s) on Creature. That's basically nothing. Then he votes for DDL, but changes to Dragomir in his next post. Both look like omgus.

I'm uninspired. I like the DDL case that exists in here.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:38 pm Cue AtE:

Would be kinda rude to kill me after I got dragged into playing this game tbh

End AtE

I know you don’t have any STRONG reads but like. Gimme something to work with here so I can see your thought processes.

I don’t know a damn thing about Rej but I remember nodding along to that case

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:42 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:38 pm Cue AtE:

Would be kinda rude to kill me after I got dragged into playing this game tbh

End AtE

I know you don’t have any STRONG reads but like. Gimme something to work with here so I can see your thought processes.

This answer is probably going to annoy you:

No.

I’m actually trying to just share high confidence reads this game, been pretty clear about that I think.

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:46 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:21 pm Last time I accused speed of being mafia in a game it was because he was saying something scummy on purpose to gather reactions that could be analysed, and he was actually civ, so I fell into his trap (tho I was civ myself too).

This time around speed is wishing jack hadn't commented on creature's meta so me and other people would attack him. Producing reactions that can be analysed.

Second paragraph of this post reminds me a lot of the first one. In other words, I don't feel like suspecting speed for doing something I've noticed civ speed likes to do (do things on purpose to gather reactions).

Why did you make such a lengthy explanation of why you you ain't suspecting speed? Did anybody ask you why you weren't suspecting him or smn?

Why do you object to this information being put into the thread, Drago?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:07 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:55 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:46 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:21 pm Last time I accused speed of being mafia in a game it was because he was saying something scummy on purpose to gather reactions that could be analysed, and he was actually civ, so I fell into his trap (tho I was civ myself too).

This time around speed is wishing jack hadn't commented on creature's meta so me and other people would attack him. Producing reactions that can be analysed.

Second paragraph of this post reminds me a lot of the first one. In other words, I don't feel like suspecting speed for doing something I've noticed civ speed likes to do (do things on purpose to gather reactions).

Why did you make such a lengthy explanation of why you you ain't suspecting speed? Did anybody ask you why you weren't suspecting him or smn?

I have to wait to be asked to play this game?

I didn't mean it like that but ok

How did you mean it?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:07 pm Mac and Rej are bad.

Why?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:25 am Is it just me or do all posts just don't feel suspicious at all minus a few?

Except for the ones by Rej and Mac, if I'm following correctly?

I do not know why any of these posts exist.

Someone who's got a better feel for this thread than I do right now, please answer this:

Are Rej and Drago compatible as scum partners?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:46 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:42 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:38 pm Cue AtE:

Would be kinda rude to kill me after I got dragged into playing this game tbh

End AtE

I know you don’t have any STRONG reads but like. Gimme something to work with here so I can see your thought processes.

This answer is probably going to annoy you:

No.

I’m actually trying to just share high confidence reads this game, been pretty clear about that I think.

This would actually be a pretty brazen response if you are scum.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:47 pm Someone who's got a better feel for this thread than I do right now, please answer this:

Are Rej and Drago compatible as scum partners?

I’ve never met either of these people in my life

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:46 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:46 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:21 pm Last time I accused speed of being mafia in a game it was because he was saying something scummy on purpose to gather reactions that could be analysed, and he was actually civ, so I fell into his trap (tho I was civ myself too).

This time around speed is wishing jack hadn't commented on creature's meta so me and other people would attack him. Producing reactions that can be analysed.

Second paragraph of this post reminds me a lot of the first one. In other words, I don't feel like suspecting speed for doing something I've noticed civ speed likes to do (do things on purpose to gather reactions).

Why did you make such a lengthy explanation of why you you ain't suspecting speed? Did anybody ask you why you weren't suspecting him or smn?

Why do you object to this information being put into the thread, Drago?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:07 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:55 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:46 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:21 pm Last time I accused speed of being mafia in a game it was because he was saying something scummy on purpose to gather reactions that could be analysed, and he was actually civ, so I fell into his trap (tho I was civ myself too).

This time around speed is wishing jack hadn't commented on creature's meta so me and other people would attack him. Producing reactions that can be analysed.

Second paragraph of this post reminds me a lot of the first one. In other words, I don't feel like suspecting speed for doing something I've noticed civ speed likes to do (do things on purpose to gather reactions).

Why did you make such a lengthy explanation of why you you ain't suspecting speed? Did anybody ask you why you weren't suspecting him or smn?

I have to wait to be asked to play this game?

I didn't mean it like that but ok

How did you mean it?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:07 pm Mac and Rej are bad.

Why?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:25 am Is it just me or do all posts just don't feel suspicious at all minus a few?

Except for the ones by Rej and Mac, if I'm following correctly?

I do not know why any of these posts exist.

This analysis is agreeable to me. I could switch to Drago.

Fuck it

[VOTE: Dom] aubergine

If he’s town I can analyze all the other jabronis who started the wagon and if he’s scum I can try to find out who tried to lead us astray

I didn't love either of those ISOs on a quick glance, but they also have set themselves apart from one another in the thread. It is not in my nature to seek out partnerships at this stage of the game, but the way those two have engaged overall has the feel of two players who want there to be distance between them.

RE: drago and rej

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:48 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:46 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:42 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:38 pm Cue AtE:

Would be kinda rude to kill me after I got dragged into playing this game tbh

End AtE

I know you don’t have any STRONG reads but like. Gimme something to work with here so I can see your thought processes.

This answer is probably going to annoy you:

No.

I’m actually trying to just share high confidence reads this game, been pretty clear about that I think.

This would actually be a pretty brazen response if you are scum.

It’s pretty NAI tbh, but read into it however you want

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:50 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:46 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:46 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:21 pm Last time I accused speed of being mafia in a game it was because he was saying something scummy on purpose to gather reactions that could be analysed, and he was actually civ, so I fell into his trap (tho I was civ myself too).

This time around speed is wishing jack hadn't commented on creature's meta so me and other people would attack him. Producing reactions that can be analysed.

Second paragraph of this post reminds me a lot of the first one. In other words, I don't feel like suspecting speed for doing something I've noticed civ speed likes to do (do things on purpose to gather reactions).

Why did you make such a lengthy explanation of why you you ain't suspecting speed? Did anybody ask you why you weren't suspecting him or smn?

Why do you object to this information being put into the thread, Drago?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:07 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:55 pm

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:46 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 2:21 pm Last time I accused speed of being mafia in a game it was because he was saying something scummy on purpose to gather reactions that could be analysed, and he was actually civ, so I fell into his trap (tho I was civ myself too).

This time around speed is wishing jack hadn't commented on creature's meta so me and other people would attack him. Producing reactions that can be analysed.

Second paragraph of this post reminds me a lot of the first one. In other words, I don't feel like suspecting speed for doing something I've noticed civ speed likes to do (do things on purpose to gather reactions).

Why did you make such a lengthy explanation of why you you ain't suspecting speed? Did anybody ask you why you weren't suspecting him or smn?

I have to wait to be asked to play this game?

I didn't mean it like that but ok

How did you mean it?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Mon Dec 09, 2019 9:07 pm Mac and Rej are bad.

Why?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:25 am Is it just me or do all posts just don't feel suspicious at all minus a few?

Except for the ones by Rej and Mac, if I'm following correctly?

I do not know why any of these posts exist.

This analysis is agreeable to me. I could switch to Drago.

Thoughts on Rej?

I mostly just want a lynch we can learn from tbh. Time’s a wasting otherwise.

I think Rej is fitting what little I understand of his town meta. Drago I haven't seen enough from yet to feel strongly about.

Here’s a feeling:

Nutes said she was gonna chill and talk and then promptly ignored me and that makes me sad

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:53 pm I think Rej is fitting what little I understand of his town meta. Drago I haven't seen enough from yet to feel strongly about.

I feel like i have seen more proactive version of Dragomir in previous games. But that includes Day 1 of Inception, when he was mafia.