The Syndicate

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:27 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:29 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am so punish the fool seems like a pretty punishing ability for our team.

the best we can probably do is to make scum play whack-a-mole. we all need mana for something...

fix suggestion : everyone should ask for the mana they need (and that's it - just ask for the mana, don't say what it's for or that it needs priority, etc etc), irregardless of how good or bad their ability is.

loop holes : the mafia will target strong people this way, so we're a bit forced to spread the cards to someone they don't need dead. (PoEish targets that can reasonably be town)

my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather? so let's not try to get caught up in an ability that takes quite a bit to use anyway.

thoughts / concerns about this?

I don't think that 3 mana is tough to gather. I can produce that much mana in a night. I don't know how many lands you have, but I have three. If that's standard, then this is probably somewhere near equivalent to a wolf giving up their personal ability in order to use Punish The Fool.

eh.

pay attention to the colors. doesnt matter how much mana you can harvest, but how much relevant mana can you harvest.

if someone gives me mana i can't use, is there harm in saying it itt? does that narrow down my ability? i think mentioning 1 or two colors i dont need is ++++

I'm leery of mentioning colors you don't need b/c colors are generally tied to abilities/actions within the MTG game and probably can be extrapolated to this game.
Therefore, mentioning colors you don't need could eliminate you as a possible X role in this game based on connections to MTG Color Pie Abilities.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:58 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:57 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:55 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:52 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:24 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Made wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:00 pm oh, I was on the wrong page. Guliotine confirmed cute puppy bear lion regardless

I know Made likes to sheep votes, but he usually has more to say about his sheeped votes than this.

I was more trying to see if Kyle was a actual vote falcon and he did so

Say again?

Kyle was talking shit so I wanted to see Kyle was ready to vote. He was!

Kyle was suspecting falcon without voting him, so you voted falcon to see if Kyle would cast a vote there as well?

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:49 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:21 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:16 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:34 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:29 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am so punish the fool seems like a pretty punishing ability for our team.

the best we can probably do is to make scum play whack-a-mole. we all need mana for something...

fix suggestion : everyone should ask for the mana they need (and that's it - just ask for the mana, don't say what it's for or that it needs priority, etc etc), irregardless of how good or bad their ability is.

loop holes : the mafia will target strong people this way, so we're a bit forced to spread the cards to someone they don't need dead. (PoEish targets that can reasonably be town)

my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather? so let's not try to get caught up in an ability that takes quite a bit to use anyway.

thoughts / concerns about this?

I don't think that 3 mana is tough to gather. I can produce that much mana in a night. I don't know how many lands you have, but I have three. If that's standard, then this is probably somewhere near equivalent to a wolf giving up their personal ability in order to use Punish The Fool.

Actually, this kind of reads like ted is a wolf with 3 lands who thinks that townies start with fewer.
Why would a townie ever say "3 mana is a bit tough to gather" here?

Or the wolves start with fewer than 3 mana each, which if Ted's scum, leads him to believe town also start with fewer than 3?

I have 3 as well, thought Ted assuming it tricky to acquire a bit unusual

Snap read you're town off of this.

lol um hello do you guys know tutuu? especially tutuu the host?

Dunno what Tutuu the host has to do with this tbh or why that could potentially impact my snap town read there.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:31 pm i think this situation was diffused quickly and well, but don't forget the lovely @Hally is also around at any time to be your punching bags. we're all friendly here!

thank you dunya

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:59 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:58 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:57 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:55 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:52 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:24 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Made wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:00 pm oh, I was on the wrong page. Guliotine confirmed cute puppy bear lion regardless

I know Made likes to sheep votes, but he usually has more to say about his sheeped votes than this.

I was more trying to see if Kyle was a actual vote falcon and he did so

Say again?

Kyle was talking shit so I wanted to see Kyle was ready to vote. He was!

Kyle was suspecting falcon without voting him, so you voted falcon to see if Kyle would cast a vote there as well?

*nods* I’m still in day 0 mode, nothing has really caught my interest so I’m trying to stir shit (tho I’m also not very read on day 0 so that’s prob a big part of it)

Anything consiquential day 0 that I should start on?

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:03 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:59 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:58 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:57 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:55 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:52 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:24 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Made wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:00 pm oh, I was on the wrong page. Guliotine confirmed cute puppy bear lion regardless

I know Made likes to sheep votes, but he usually has more to say about his sheeped votes than this.

I was more trying to see if Kyle was a actual vote falcon and he did so

Say again?

Kyle was talking shit so I wanted to see Kyle was ready to vote. He was!

Kyle was suspecting falcon without voting him, so you voted falcon to see if Kyle would cast a vote there as well?

*nods* I’m still in day 0 mode, nothing has really caught my interest so I’m trying to stir shit (tho I’m also not very read on day 0 so that’s prob a big part of it)

Anything consiquential day 0 that I should start on?

I don't know if I'd describe your Day 0 behavior as trying to stir shit. I hardly posted.

Lol. YOU hardly posted.

Pronouns are hard ok

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:54 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:53 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:49 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:45 pm

Nicol Bolas wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:45 pm We're not lynching Falcon

this tbh

Urist/Falcon are wolf partners! I called it out as the king of the jungle! I call it now as the Guillotine.

JPIC did too.

Yes, but im giving him a chance to town up.

What is your stance on Falcon/Urist?

Lemme go iso them, then get back to you.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:03 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:59 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:58 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:57 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:55 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:52 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:24 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Made wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:00 pm oh, I was on the wrong page. Guliotine confirmed cute puppy bear lion regardless

I know Made likes to sheep votes, but he usually has more to say about his sheeped votes than this.

I was more trying to see if Kyle was a actual vote falcon and he did so

Say again?

Kyle was talking shit so I wanted to see Kyle was ready to vote. He was!

Kyle was suspecting falcon without voting him, so you voted falcon to see if Kyle would cast a vote there as well?

*nods* I’m still in day 0 mode, nothing has really caught my interest so I’m trying to stir shit (tho I’m also not very read on day 0 so that’s prob a big part of it)

Anything consiquential day 0 that I should start on?

Maybe? I'm playing mostly in the present at this time.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine This "that's right I'm scum" and "lemme get right on that ISO, sir!" jars me jankily.

Looking through Urist's iso, I think he was the first person to propose a policy yeet of Guillo for image-posting, so I think that idea looks better for him than anyone who came later.

Urist made a post that I think absolutely came from a town mindset, but won't quote for reasons.

I think he's town.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:58 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:57 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:52 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:43 pm Also, i wolf read everyone that hinted at getting me yeeted for my playstyle, sounds like you knew i was widely townread and you were looking to get a wagon built on me under the pretense of a policy lynch.

You think not liking a gimmick is scummy behaviour lol

Yes! It is! Scummy or anti-town behavior. So you'd be willing to yeet someone for disliking a gimmick who could potentially be say a doctor, or a cop or a vig? You didnt think, well it's his playstyle but he maybe town with an important role to us?

Let's yeet him because im intolerant!

Either that! Or you were looking to build a wagon under the pretense of a policy lynch on an obvious townie player.

I never said that. I just found the pictures annoying and it was flooding the thread

You didnt have to say it. Behavior says it all. I find a lot of things annoying in players! Not for that im gonna yeet them! This game is not about killing the people that annoys you, it's about killing the people you scum read. Wanna kill players that annoy you. You play fortnite! That game is full of annoying pricks.

Your gimmick, however, was directly a mask that obfuscated attempts to read you. I can understand why it would be viewed with suspicion.

I noted that he dropped the gimmick once a few votes got tossed onto him.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:11 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine This "that's right I'm scum" and "lemme get right on that ISO, sir!" jars me jankily.

Working as intended.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:02 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:49 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:21 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:16 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:34 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:29 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am so punish the fool seems like a pretty punishing ability for our team.

the best we can probably do is to make scum play whack-a-mole. we all need mana for something...

fix suggestion : everyone should ask for the mana they need (and that's it - just ask for the mana, don't say what it's for or that it needs priority, etc etc), irregardless of how good or bad their ability is.

loop holes : the mafia will target strong people this way, so we're a bit forced to spread the cards to someone they don't need dead. (PoEish targets that can reasonably be town)

my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather? so let's not try to get caught up in an ability that takes quite a bit to use anyway.

thoughts / concerns about this?

I don't think that 3 mana is tough to gather. I can produce that much mana in a night. I don't know how many lands you have, but I have three. If that's standard, then this is probably somewhere near equivalent to a wolf giving up their personal ability in order to use Punish The Fool.

Actually, this kind of reads like ted is a wolf with 3 lands who thinks that townies start with fewer.
Why would a townie ever say "3 mana is a bit tough to gather" here?

Or the wolves start with fewer than 3 mana each, which if Ted's scum, leads him to believe town also start with fewer than 3?

I have 3 as well, thought Ted assuming it tricky to acquire a bit unusual

Snap read you're town off of this.

lol um hello do you guys know tutuu? especially tutuu the host?

Dunno what Tutuu the host has to do with this tbh or why that could potentially impact my snap town read there.

i think i misread this chain.

i thought you guys meant that mafia doesn't have 3 land cards, and i would be sure that if that was the case, tutuu would specifically tell mafia that town all have 3 cards. she's that kinda host.

but i understood now the issue with ted there

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:13 pm Looking through Urist's iso, I think he was the first person to propose a policy yeet of Guillo for image-posting, so I think that idea looks better for him than anyone who came later.

Urist made a post that I think absolutely came from a town mindset, but won't quote for reasons.

I think he's town.

it's rude to quote our mason chat and post it as your own individual ideas marmot

Tutuu said that mafia each have compatible fake claims, so those fake claims probably line up with a regular town claim down to the number of lands and ability types.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:58 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:52 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:43 pm Also, i wolf read everyone that hinted at getting me yeeted for my playstyle, sounds like you knew i was widely townread and you were looking to get a wagon built on me under the pretense of a policy lynch.

You think not liking a gimmick is scummy behaviour lol

Yes! It is! Scummy or anti-town behavior. So you'd be willing to yeet someone for disliking a gimmick who could potentially be say a doctor, or a cop or a vig? You didnt think, well it's his playstyle but he maybe town with an important role to us?

Let's yeet him because im intolerant!

Either that! Or you were looking to build a wagon under the pretense of a policy lynch on an obvious townie player.

I don't see how any of this is wolf-indicative. *Anyone* has the potential to be a power role, why is someone posting in PNGs more likely to have a good PR?
Also strongly disagree with the presumption that you're obvious town. I... don't really see how you could actually believe that you're viewed as obv-town by anyone in this game.

You are missing the point! You are either playing dumb or you are. Here.

Wolves need poor excuses to get obv town lynched. As town, i seek for people who play scummy or do scummy things. I was scum hunting and helping game solve through my lions, scum need to get town to post reactions they can manipulate, twist and turn on them (like you are doing now), but they can't twist an image because an image is worth more than a thousand words and those who are town and interested in yeeting scum and not policy lynch townies understand that.

Im obvious town because ive been game solving and making tremendous effort to do so, even more so through images. Im still far from being a leading wagon ain't I?

You guys wanted to use my lion coms as an excuse to get me dead. Too bad for you all wolves, it takes a lot lot lot more than that to get me dead and it'll take one of you to drop dead if you want me dead a night too. You wished i randed wolf with you cause my scum win rate is over 90% (for real), but you got me as townie who thinks like a wolf to catch wolves.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:16 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:13 pm Looking through Urist's iso, I think he was the first person to propose a policy yeet of Guillo for image-posting, so I think that idea looks better for him than anyone who came later.

Urist made a post that I think absolutely came from a town mindset, but won't quote for reasons.

I think he's town.

it's rude to quote our mason chat and post it as your own individual ideas marmot

Sorry everyone, these are dunya's thoughts that I stole for some towncred.

Marmot has been asked three times to give a read on me, and he's yet to do so. Terribly bad look for him

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:13 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:11 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine This "that's right I'm scum" and "lemme get right on that ISO, sir!" jars me jankily.

Working as intended.

Now you're a jester?

lol i was actually requested to post games

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/p ... d-1770577/

was actually a wolf for this one

and then i can link other mtg games which i've skimmed but this is all fairly silly




as for why i voted LC, it was my gut impression that mafia LC asks a lot of questions and doesn't state things early on, so he was already ticking a box of "only posting like i remember wolf him doing it" + he was adding thoughts of my post being wolfy but not anything concrete / it didn't show

(i actually went to re-read and it didn't seem as bad as i remembered it to be, part of it being because i actually misunderstood a progression)

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:23 pm Marmot has been asked three times to give a read on me, and he's yet to do so. Terribly bad look for him

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:36 pmas for why i voted LC, it was my gut impression that mafia LC asks a lot of questions and doesn't state things early on, so he was already ticking a box of "only posting like i remember wolf him doing it" + he was adding thoughts of my post being wolfy but not anything concrete / it didn't show

Did I ask a lot of questions and... not state things?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:36 pm as for why i voted LC, it was my gut impression that mafia LC asks a lot of questions and doesn't state things early on, so he was already ticking a box of "only posting like i remember wolf him doing it" + he was adding thoughts of my post being wolfy but not anything concrete / it didn't show

(i actually went to re-read and it didn't seem as bad as i remembered it to be, part of it being because i actually misunderstood a progression)

i didnt get that impression? i have seen LC take pretty strong stances mechanical wise irt claiming color etc and has been helpful apart from voting for marmot.

he's been present and in solving mode imo and i have him as a town read.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:45 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:36 pm as for why i voted LC, it was my gut impression that mafia LC asks a lot of questions and doesn't state things early on, so he was already ticking a box of "only posting like i remember wolf him doing it" + he was adding thoughts of my post being wolfy but not anything concrete / it didn't show

(i actually went to re-read and it didn't seem as bad as i remembered it to be, part of it being because i actually misunderstood a progression)

i didnt get that impression? i have seen LC take pretty strong stances mechanical wise irt claiming color etc and has been helpful apart from voting for marmot.

he's been present and in solving mode imo and i have him as a town read.

How do you know voting for Marmot isn't helpful?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:47 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:45 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:36 pm as for why i voted LC, it was my gut impression that mafia LC asks a lot of questions and doesn't state things early on, so he was already ticking a box of "only posting like i remember wolf him doing it" + he was adding thoughts of my post being wolfy but not anything concrete / it didn't show

(i actually went to re-read and it didn't seem as bad as i remembered it to be, part of it being because i actually misunderstood a progression)

i didnt get that impression? i have seen LC take pretty strong stances mechanical wise irt claiming color etc and has been helpful apart from voting for marmot.

he's been present and in solving mode imo and i have him as a town read.

How do you know voting for Marmot isn't helpful?

mason jokes aside, marmot is someone who is mischop bait, being so unmeta and unreadable.

i think from spectating him in so many games lately, i actually get him (or i like to think so). i think he gets better to read as the game goes on and i haven't seen anything outside of blatant and intentional marmot wifom here with some very town-like takes i don't see scum motive for (the urist thing for once, his response to guillio was very level-headed and unchaotic, scum marmot would just revel in chaos itt and not try to mitigate it and i liked his made prod since everyone else had forgotten about made and it made made pop in).

marmot is not ideal day1 yeet.

i actually just wanna vote ted right now am i crazy?

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

i like falcon more than i like both guillio and hollowkatt in the last 6hrs

i am currently voting ted with hollowkatt

wild day.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:36 pm lol i was actually requested to post games

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/p ... d-1770577/

was actually a wolf for this one

and then i can link other mtg games which i've skimmed but this is all fairly silly




as for why i voted LC, it was my gut impression that mafia LC asks a lot of questions and doesn't state things early on, so he was already ticking a box of "only posting like i remember wolf him doing it" + he was adding thoughts of my post being wolfy but not anything concrete / it didn't show

(i actually went to re-read and it didn't seem as bad as i remembered it to be, part of it being because i actually misunderstood a progression)

Just the one game is fine, thank you.

Can you give examples of LC doing what you say?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:13 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:58 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:57 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:52 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:43 pm Also, i wolf read everyone that hinted at getting me yeeted for my playstyle, sounds like you knew i was widely townread and you were looking to get a wagon built on me under the pretense of a policy lynch.

You think not liking a gimmick is scummy behaviour lol

Yes! It is! Scummy or anti-town behavior. So you'd be willing to yeet someone for disliking a gimmick who could potentially be say a doctor, or a cop or a vig? You didnt think, well it's his playstyle but he maybe town with an important role to us?

Let's yeet him because im intolerant!

Either that! Or you were looking to build a wagon under the pretense of a policy lynch on an obvious townie player.

I never said that. I just found the pictures annoying and it was flooding the thread

You didnt have to say it. Behavior says it all. I find a lot of things annoying in players! Not for that im gonna yeet them! This game is not about killing the people that annoys you, it's about killing the people you scum read. Wanna kill players that annoy you. You play fortnite! That game is full of annoying pricks.

Your gimmick, however, was directly a mask that obfuscated attempts to read you. I can understand why it would be viewed with suspicion.

I noted that he dropped the gimmick once a few votes got tossed onto him.

NAI i think. I can see town dropping a gimmick if others found it annoying

jpic, you seem a little disengaged

do you have any town reads? leans? scum reads? leans?

shit, i forgot about you 100 post limit. i will have to be careful to be able to post tomorrow as well.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:54 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:47 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:45 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:36 pm as for why i voted LC, it was my gut impression that mafia LC asks a lot of questions and doesn't state things early on, so he was already ticking a box of "only posting like i remember wolf him doing it" + he was adding thoughts of my post being wolfy but not anything concrete / it didn't show

(i actually went to re-read and it didn't seem as bad as i remembered it to be, part of it being because i actually misunderstood a progression)

i didnt get that impression? i have seen LC take pretty strong stances mechanical wise irt claiming color etc and has been helpful apart from voting for marmot.

he's been present and in solving mode imo and i have him as a town read.

How do you know voting for Marmot isn't helpful?

mason jokes aside, marmot is someone who is mischop bait, being so unmeta and unreadable.

i think from spectating him in so many games lately, i actually get him (or i like to think so). i think he gets better to read as the game goes on and i haven't seen anything outside of blatant and intentional marmot wifom here with some very town-like takes i don't see scum motive for (the urist thing for once, his response to guillio was very level-headed and unchaotic, scum marmot would just revel in chaos itt and not try to mitigate it and i liked his made prod since everyone else had forgotten about made and it made made pop in).

marmot is not ideal day1 yeet.

That's some good analysis on Marmot, I recognize the Marmot you describe. He can have a chance. [VOTE: unvote] aubergine

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:09 pm jpic, you seem a little disengaged

do you have any town reads? leans? scum reads? leans?

shit, i forgot about you 100 post limit. i will have to be careful to be able to post tomorrow as well.

wdym by disengaged?

I have a weird townread on marmot for wanting people to scumread him. Falcon is playing balls to the wall which I like. I have zero scumreads at the moment, but I have barely read the thread.

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:57 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:36 pm lol i was actually requested to post games

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/p ... d-1770577/

was actually a wolf for this one

and then i can link other mtg games which i've skimmed but this is all fairly silly




as for why i voted LC, it was my gut impression that mafia LC asks a lot of questions and doesn't state things early on, so he was already ticking a box of "only posting like i remember wolf him doing it" + he was adding thoughts of my post being wolfy but not anything concrete / it didn't show

(i actually went to re-read and it didn't seem as bad as i remembered it to be, part of it being because i actually misunderstood a progression)

Just the one game is fine, thank you.

Can you give examples of LC doing what you say?

no, since the vote wasn't anything too documented from a holistic PoV and i've already forgot

my main reason for voting him was actually the misunderstanding part, which i've now re-read and understood the angle he was coming from

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:45 pm i have seen LC take pretty strong stances mechanical wise irt claiming color etc and has been helpful apart from voting for marmot.

was more talking about reads, wolves can comment on mechs too

and he only had one post on marmot at the time i've voted for him.

dunya i reckon you already feel bad for voting me

isn't it true?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:23 pm Marmot has been asked three times to give a read on me, and he's yet to do so. Terribly bad look for him

You're just mad I didn't ask you to mason this time. I have a tab open with your ISO in it, give me a chance to read it.

I remember Guillo asking just recently, who else asked me this?

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:26 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:13 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:11 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine This "that's right I'm scum" and "lemme get right on that ISO, sir!" jars me jankily.

Working as intended.

Now you're a jester?

No no, I'm definitely just a wolf.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:36 pm lol i was actually requested to post games

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/p ... d-1770577/

was actually a wolf for this one

and then i can link other mtg games which i've skimmed but this is all fairly silly




as for why i voted LC, it was my gut impression that mafia LC asks a lot of questions and doesn't state things early on, so he was already ticking a box of "only posting like i remember wolf him doing it" + he was adding thoughts of my post being wolfy but not anything concrete / it didn't show

(i actually went to re-read and it didn't seem as bad as i remembered it to be, part of it being because i actually misunderstood a progression)

I don't think question-asking is AI for him.

The only time I remember accurately scum-reading him, it was for ignoring thread evidence and tunneling in Bike Mafia.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:39 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:23 pm Marmot has been asked three times to give a read on me, and he's yet to do so. Terribly bad look for him

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Is this stirring shit up?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:48 pm I don't think question-asking is AI for him.

that wasn't my point, but admittedly i didn't feel the need to elaborate on it because i wasn't strongly pinged

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:18 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:57 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:36 pm lol i was actually requested to post games

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/59/p ... d-1770577/

was actually a wolf for this one

and then i can link other mtg games which i've skimmed but this is all fairly silly




as for why i voted LC, it was my gut impression that mafia LC asks a lot of questions and doesn't state things early on, so he was already ticking a box of "only posting like i remember wolf him doing it" + he was adding thoughts of my post being wolfy but not anything concrete / it didn't show

(i actually went to re-read and it didn't seem as bad as i remembered it to be, part of it being because i actually misunderstood a progression)

Just the one game is fine, thank you.

Can you give examples of LC doing what you say?

no, since the vote wasn't anything too documented from a holistic PoV and i've already forgot

my main reason for voting him was actually the misunderstanding part, which i've now re-read and understood the angle he was coming from

Which progression is it that you misunderstood, then? Just trying to get into your head.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:44 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:26 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:13 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:11 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine This "that's right I'm scum" and "lemme get right on that ISO, sir!" jars me jankily.

Working as intended.

Now you're a jester?

No no, I'm definitely just a wolf.

There aren't any wolves in this game, only mafia. Clearly this is a town-slip!

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:54 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:47 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:45 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:36 pm as for why i voted LC, it was my gut impression that mafia LC asks a lot of questions and doesn't state things early on, so he was already ticking a box of "only posting like i remember wolf him doing it" + he was adding thoughts of my post being wolfy but not anything concrete / it didn't show

(i actually went to re-read and it didn't seem as bad as i remembered it to be, part of it being because i actually misunderstood a progression)

i didnt get that impression? i have seen LC take pretty strong stances mechanical wise irt claiming color etc and has been helpful apart from voting for marmot.

he's been present and in solving mode imo and i have him as a town read.

How do you know voting for Marmot isn't helpful?

mason jokes aside, marmot is someone who is mischop bait, being so unmeta and unreadable.

i think from spectating him in so many games lately, i actually get him (or i like to think so). i think he gets better to read as the game goes on and i haven't seen anything outside of blatant and intentional marmot wifom here with some very town-like takes i don't see scum motive for (the urist thing for once, his response to guillio was very level-headed and unchaotic, scum marmot would just revel in chaos itt and not try to mitigate it and i liked his made prod since everyone else had forgotten about made and it made made pop in).

marmot is not ideal day1 yeet.

When emotions are high, I don't like to revel in that chaos, I'd much prefer to defuse it.

But the rest of your take is disturbingly accurate.

This is why Marmot friend gets head pats while the rest of you get bolted.

Hello everyone, what have I missed?

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:55 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:44 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:26 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:13 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:11 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine This "that's right I'm scum" and "lemme get right on that ISO, sir!" jars me jankily.

Working as intended.

Now you're a jester?

No no, I'm definitely just a wolf.

There aren't any wolves in this game, only mafia. Clearly this is a town-slip!

wonders if Urists realizes there's a card titled Wolf Pack in the game

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:17 pm i think the problem with the pics are they are pretty big on mobile and lots of scrolling, especially quote pyramids probably. feel free to do you, as long as we get like a symbol key on what each image means

Yeah, the main thing is idk what those pictures are trying to say.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:42 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:23 pm Marmot has been asked three times to give a read on me, and he's yet to do so. Terribly bad look for him

You're just mad I didn't ask you to mason this time. I have a tab open with your ISO in it, give me a chance to read it.

I remember Guillo asking just recently, who else asked me this?

Myself. Twice

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:56 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:55 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:44 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:26 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:13 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:11 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine This "that's right I'm scum" and "lemme get right on that ISO, sir!" jars me jankily.

Working as intended.

Now you're a jester?

No no, I'm definitely just a wolf.

There aren't any wolves in this game, only mafia. Clearly this is a town-slip!

wonders if Urists realizes there's a card titled Wolf Pack in the game

Clearly I've town-slipped.