The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:25 am**

@Neon

Just saw in your iso you asked why you. That was not an affirmative list but rather those who I hadn't gotten town vibes from yet so that's why you were included.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:27 am**

Anyway to continue my 'why is achro doing this' I liked the le digh after voting me as being genuine from Neon and add them to my list. 3 life boats left.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:27 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:27 am Anyway to continue my 'why is achro doing this' I liked the le sigh after voting me as being genuine from Neon and add them to my list. 3 life boats left.

Ebwop

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:29 am**

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:25 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:24 am Neons amazing never wrong Day 1 town vibe reads

Achromatic, Nanook, Mac, Sabi, Lily
EBWOP...I play on mobile pls excuse all auto correct failures

Can you give a little bit on why you town read each of these players?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am**

@Achromatic if you are town then you have a wolf voting for you. Who is it?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am**

Moved my vote to jack so he knows I am thinking of him when he enters the thread. Hi jack.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:32 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am @Achromatic if you are town then you have a wolf voting for you. Who is it?

I think town are much more likely to vote me early than wolves especially when I am playing like this so we will see how risii pans out but otherwise I suspect low wolf activity so far.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:33 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am @Achromatic if you are town then you have a wolf voting for you. Who is it?
I think town are much more likely to vote me early than wolves especially when I am playing like this so we will see how risii pans out but otherwise I suspect low wolf activity so far.

Low wolf activity on voting me, to be clear.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:33 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am @Achromatic if you are town then you have a wolf voting for you. Who is it?
I think town are much more likely to vote me early than wolves especially when I am playing like this so we will see how risii pans out but otherwise I suspect low wolf activity so far.

If you are town, you have a wolf voting on you more than 50% of the time. It is a phenomenon I have been tracking. The first wagon to get to 3 votes almost always has a mafia on it if they are town. I have caught wolves with this read in almost every game I've played in the last 2 years.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:34 am**

Me saying 50% is actually being conservative because I actually can't remember it being incorrect actually.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:35 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:33 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am @Achromatic if you are town then you have a wolf voting for you. Who is it?
I think town are much more likely to vote me early than wolves especially when I am playing like this so we will see how risii pans out but otherwise I suspect low wolf activity so far.
If you are town, you have a wolf voting on you more than 50% of the time. It is a phenomenon I have been tracking. The first wagon to get to 3 votes almost always has a mafia on it if they are town. I have caught wolves with this read in almost every game I've played in the last 2 years.

Huh. That's cool. I don't think my own personal matches up with this very well off memory but that's a cool idea to track that and it makes sense then. The first three on me I believe were lily/porscha/esooa and I have them all town atm tho

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:37 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:33 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am @Achromatic if you are town then you have a wolf voting for you. Who is it?
I think town are much more likely to vote me early than wolves especially when I am playing like this so we will see how risii pans out but otherwise I suspect low wolf activity so far.
If you are town, you have a wolf voting on you more than 50% of the time. It is a phenomenon I have been tracking. The first wagon to get to 3 votes almost always has a mafia on it if they are town. I have caught wolves with this read in almost every game I've played in the last 2 years.
Huh. That's cool. I don't think my own personal matches up with this very well off memory but that's a cool idea to track that and it makes sense then. The first three on me I believe were lily/porscha/esooa and I have them all town atm tho

Tbh when I said the first wagon to get to 3 what I really meant was "any wagon that has 3 votes on it at the time I've made the observation always has 1 mafia on it". And if memory serves it has always been 1 as well and I think in this game that's even more likely to be the case. The thing is that if you already had 3, the wolf is unlikely to have taken their vote off you as well so I feel like that makes a difference check between Lily and Esooa.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:38 am**

If that read is proven correct it also means risiinq and Porscha are town.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:41 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:15 am Hello new friend

halloo

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:21 am
risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:14 am i dont know how to spell

[VOTE: Achromatic] aubergine
Also usually people say a person's name once in their iso before voting for them but I admire you just going for it. Why the vote?

oh, i haven't really had time to really get into the game yet and i'll only be able to when i get home so ive procrastinated on catching up and reading the game so i just felt like making a vote, ya know

during my quick skim on the page i was on and like, looking at the playerlist and who was being voted, i thought you seemed the most off in terms of being performative with reads fwiw

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:42 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:25 am @Neon

Just saw in your iso you asked why you. That was not an affirmative list but rather those who I hadn't gotten town vibes from yet so that's why you were included.

That makes sense thank you for answering that ^^

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:42 am**

this is really weird now. i didnt realize there was /any/ new posts and there wasn't any pop up until i posted that post. i thought i arrived to a dead thread

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:42 am**

Well, I mean, calling me performative is not wrong usually.

Can I get a quote that best defines that read of yours please?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:43 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am @Achromatic if you are town then you have a wolf voting for you. Who is it?
I think town are much more likely to vote me early than wolves especially when I am playing like this so we will see how risii pans out but otherwise I suspect low wolf activity so far.

and this is a weird read, shrug

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:44 am**

It started as an assumption about how wolves don't vote as pack at this point in games. Which in it's own right has proven correct time and time again. Probably north of 3/4 of the time. It isn't until a wagon gets to 5 that you tend to see more instances of 2 wolves being on the wagon.

I then I started noticing that when I had 3 vote wagons on me it was almost always 1w 2t. When I started actually taking that assumption and solving around it I honestly don't think it's been proven wrong yet.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:44 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:38 am If that read is proven correct it also means risiinq and Porscha are town.

wat?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:45 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:37 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:33 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am @Achromatic if you are town then you have a wolf voting for you. Who is it?
I think town are much more likely to vote me early than wolves especially when I am playing like this so we will see how risii pans out but otherwise I suspect low wolf activity so far.
If you are town, you have a wolf voting on you more than 50% of the time. It is a phenomenon I have been tracking. The first wagon to get to 3 votes almost always has a mafia on it if they are town. I have caught wolves with this read in almost every game I've played in the last 2 years.
Huh. That's cool. I don't think my own personal matches up with this very well off memory but that's a cool idea to track that and it makes sense then. The first three on me I believe were lily/porscha/esooa and I have them all town atm tho
Tbh when I said the first wagon to get to 3 what I really meant was "any wagon that has 3 votes on it at the time I've made the observation always has 1 mafia on it". And if memory serves it has always been 1 as well and I think in this game that's even more likely to be the case. The thing is that if you already had 3, the wolf is unlikely to have taken their vote off you as well so I feel like that makes a difference check between Lily and Esooa.

Well it seems like you already have a suspect in the form of esooa and I believe you expressed a town read on lily last page.

I did quick math and in this format this would prove to be true at random more than half the time so I can see why it might work a fair amount.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:45 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:37 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:33 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am @Achromatic if you are town then you have a wolf voting for you. Who is it?
I think town are much more likely to vote me early than wolves especially when I am playing like this so we will see how risii pans out but otherwise I suspect low wolf activity so far.
If you are town, you have a wolf voting on you more than 50% of the time. It is a phenomenon I have been tracking. The first wagon to get to 3 votes almost always has a mafia on it if they are town. I have caught wolves with this read in almost every game I've played in the last 2 years.
Huh. That's cool. I don't think my own personal matches up with this very well off memory but that's a cool idea to track that and it makes sense then. The first three on me I believe were lily/porscha/esooa and I have them all town atm tho
Tbh when I said the first wagon to get to 3 what I really meant was "any wagon that has 3 votes on it at the time I've made the observation always has 1 mafia on it". And if memory serves it has always been 1 as well and I think in this game that's even more likely to be the case. The thing is that if you already had 3, the wolf is unlikely to have taken their vote off you as well so I feel like that makes a difference check between Lily and Esooa.

If this is a correct theory rip esooa

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:46 am**

risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:44 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:38 am If that read is proven correct it also means risiinq and Porscha are town.
wat?

Achro had 3 votes on him earlier in the day. That means there was already a wolf voting him at that time. That wolf wouldn't have unvoted from that position. Porscha especially that holds true for. That means there is a wolf between lily/esooa. A second wolf would not wantonly add their vote to achro in this situation because wolves tend to not vote in packs. Ergo you are town.

It's all just game theory stuff ignore it if you want lol.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:46 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:45 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:37 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:35 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:33 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:32 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am @Achromatic if you are town then you have a wolf voting for you. Who is it?
I think town are much more likely to vote me early than wolves especially when I am playing like this so we will see how risii pans out but otherwise I suspect low wolf activity so far.
If you are town, you have a wolf voting on you more than 50% of the time. It is a phenomenon I have been tracking. The first wagon to get to 3 votes almost always has a mafia on it if they are town. I have caught wolves with this read in almost every game I've played in the last 2 years.
Huh. That's cool. I don't think my own personal matches up with this very well off memory but that's a cool idea to track that and it makes sense then. The first three on me I believe were lily/porscha/esooa and I have them all town atm tho
Tbh when I said the first wagon to get to 3 what I really meant was "any wagon that has 3 votes on it at the time I've made the observation always has 1 mafia on it". And if memory serves it has always been 1 as well and I think in this game that's even more likely to be the case. The thing is that if you already had 3, the wolf is unlikely to have taken their vote off you as well so I feel like that makes a difference check between Lily and Esooa.
If this is a correct theory rip esooa

Or I am a wolf.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:46 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:46 am
risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:44 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:38 am If that read is proven correct it also means risiinq and Porscha are town.
wat?
Achro had 3 votes on him earlier in the day. That means there was already a wolf voting him at that time. That wolf wouldn't have unvoted from that position. Porscha especially that holds true for. That means there is a wolf between lily/esooa. A second wolf would not wantonly add their vote to achro in this situation because wolves tend to not vote in packs. Ergo you are town.

It's all just game theory stuff ignore it if you want lol.

do u think this holds true regardless of achromatic's alignemnt

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:47 am**

I love game theory tbh

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:49 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:29 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:25 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:24 am Neons amazing never wrong Day 1 town vibe reads

Achromatic, Nanook, Mac, Sabi, Lily
EBWOP...I play on mobile pls excuse all auto correct failures
Can you give a little bit on why you town read each of these players?

It's mostly just a vibes thing. My day 1 vibe reads used to be the stuff of legend but I've been awful lately.

Anyways some of this is probably non AI but...I read into that all the time lol

Lily I feel like it's trying to drive the thread forward and is not really pushing an agenda imo

Mac feels genuine I believe what he was saying early even though people thought it was weird for him. I dunno none of this is AI but I vibe with it

Sabi feels like the town Sabi I remember playing with. Granted I've only played with town Sabi and we only recently played any games together but Sabi asking questions to try to get answers and drive content and their tone feels towny to me.

Nanook playing laid back and trying to relax this game...I dunno just don't think he'd do that as scum. Faked a check on me whatever every time someone has faked a check on me they are town

Achromatic these last several posts pinged me as town it all feels genuine and real I was scum reading them hard for the earlier stuff but I just buy this sincerity.

I'm a garbage player tear me apart xD

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:50 am**

neon seems town lol

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:51 am**

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:49 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:29 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:25 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:24 am Neons amazing never wrong Day 1 town vibe reads

Achromatic, Nanook, Mac, Sabi, Lily
EBWOP...I play on mobile pls excuse all auto correct failures
Can you give a little bit on why you town read each of these players?
It's mostly just a vibes thing. My day 1 vibe reads used to be the stuff of legend but I've been awful lately.

Anyways some of this is probably non AI but...I read into that all the time lol

Lily I feel like it's trying to drive the thread forward and is not really pushing an agenda imo

Mac feels genuine I believe what he was saying early even though people thought it was weird for him. I dunno none of this is AI but I vibe with it

Sabi feels like the town Sabi I remember playing with. Granted I've only played with town Sabi and we only recently played any games together but Sabi asking questions to try to get answers and drive content and their tone feels towny to me.

Nanook playing laid back and trying to relax this game...I dunno just don't think he'd do that as scum. Faked a check on me whatever every time someone has faked a check on me they are town

Achromatic these last several posts pinged me as town it all feels genuine and real I was scum reading them hard for the earlier stuff but I just buy this sincerity.

I'm a garbage player tear me apart xD

Thank you!!

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:51 am**

tearing apart garbage sounds like a racoon's job @MacDougall @Sabiplz

get to work

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:51 am**

I agree with most of those reads and remember we all are reading the same topic. Don't tear yourself down, others will do it for you lol

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:53 am**

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:51 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:49 am
Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:29 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:25 am
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:24 am Neons amazing never wrong Day 1 town vibe reads

Achromatic, Nanook, Mac, Sabi, Lily
EBWOP...I play on mobile pls excuse all auto correct failures
Can you give a little bit on why you town read each of these players?
It's mostly just a vibes thing. My day 1 vibe reads used to be the stuff of legend but I've been awful lately.

Anyways some of this is probably non AI but...I read into that all the time lol

Lily I feel like it's trying to drive the thread forward and is not really pushing an agenda imo

Mac feels genuine I believe what he was saying early even though people thought it was weird for him. I dunno none of this is AI but I vibe with it

Sabi feels like the town Sabi I remember playing with. Granted I've only played with town Sabi and we only recently played any games together but Sabi asking questions to try to get answers and drive content and their tone feels towny to me.

Nanook playing laid back and trying to relax this game...I dunno just don't think he'd do that as scum. Faked a check on me whatever every time someone has faked a check on me they are town

Achromatic these last several posts pinged me as town it all feels genuine and real I was scum reading them hard for the earlier stuff but I just buy this sincerity.

I'm a garbage player tear me apart xD
Thank you!!

Welcome <3 ^^

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:54 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:51 am I agree with most of those reads and remember we all are reading the same topic. Don't tear yourself down, others will do it for you lol

Being mean to myself is my mafia motif. Make everyone feel bad for me so they never vote me or something.

~~totally not just a lack of self confidence~~

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:56 am**

You can have some of mine I am told I have too much.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:59 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:56 am You can have some of mine I am told I have too much.

Deal lol. My boyfriend just told me he wished I believed in myself more so I could use it xD

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:59 am**

risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:46 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:46 am
risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:44 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:38 am If that read is proven correct it also means risiinq and Porscha are town.
wat?
Achro had 3 votes on him earlier in the day. That means there was already a wolf voting him at that time. That wolf wouldn't have unvoted from that position. Porscha especially that holds true for. That means there is a wolf between lily/esooa. A second wolf would not wantonly add their vote to achro in this situation because wolves tend to not vote in packs. Ergo you are town.

It's all just game theory stuff ignore it if you want lol.
do u think this holds true regardless of achromatic's alignemnt

no, it's probably slightly under rand if he's mafia and not worth reading into. It requires him to be town, which is why I directed the question at him to begin with.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:00 am**

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:51 am tearing apart garbage sounds like a racoon's job @MacDougall @Sabiplz

get to work

i don't think the reads are garbage lol

how am I a racoon?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:03 am**

What's your lay of the land so far, mac?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:03 am**

well, apparently achro just chose to say that i am randlikely the wolf on his wagon bcuz he townreads everyone else and i am a "lowposting wolf"

¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

would like to know his follow up tho tbh

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:05 am**

risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:03 am well, apparently achro just chose to say that i am randlikely the wolf on his wagon bcuz he townreads everyone else and i am a "lowposting wolf"

¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

would like to know his follow up tho tbh

I believe I said I dont think this theory holds true to my own history and I would have to see how you post for it to have merit and I mentioned that I believe there was low wolf activity on me meaning that wolves are unlikely voting me.

Funny how words can get mixed up.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:06 am**

Initial instinct was to townread Nanook and hollowkatt though that seems foolish and better off waiting.

Lily seems Wolfy to me.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:08 am**

What about lily in particular do you have problems with?

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:08 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:05 am
risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:03 am well, apparently achro just chose to say that i am randlikely the wolf on his wagon bcuz he townreads everyone else and i am a "lowposting wolf"

¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

would like to know his follow up tho tbh
I believe I said I dont think this theory holds true to my own history and I would have to see how you post for it to have merit and I mentioned that I believe there was low wolf activity on me meaning that wolves are unlikely voting me.

Funny how words can get mixed up.

lol fair enough.

it's interesting how u think town will tend to vote u more though

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:17 am**

Lmao have people been at each other's throats already

It's a fucking game

Please stop lol

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:18 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:08 am What about lily in particular do you have problems with?

Just the flow of her posts. Came across Wolfy to me.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:19 am**

risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:08 am
Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:05 am
risiinq- wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:03 am well, apparently achro just chose to say that i am randlikely the wolf on his wagon bcuz he townreads everyone else and i am a "lowposting wolf"

¯\_ (ツ)_/¯

would like to know his follow up tho tbh
I believe I said I dont think this theory holds true to my own history and I would have to see how you post for it to have merit and I mentioned that I believe there was low wolf activity on me meaning that wolves are unlikely voting me.

Funny how words can get mixed up.
lol fair enough.

it's interesting how u think town will tend to vote u more though

I tend to be pretty good at picking up when votes on me are predatory versus coming from trying to genuinely solve the game. Most of the time from my experience its the latter.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:22 am**

For example of this, I was in a game on fol last month where I was mislynched day 2 and my wagon was pure. All 7 were town. It's just one of those things.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:23 am**

Achromatic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:03 am What's your lay of the land so far, mac?

I gave some reads earlier, you were in the who the fuck knows category.

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:23 am**

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:17 am Lmao have people been at each other's throats already

It's a fucking game

Please stop lol

not like, really badly lol... no worse than an average game

Posted: **Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:24 am**

lol @ lilypetal silently moving her vote off achro

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