Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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I am a strong independent man who don't need no axe.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:12 pmI have no plans on helping you live through the day. But my Spidey sense says that you will somehow.
All right keep your cake RE: Sloonei.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm I’m not going to vote Sloonei and if he’s lynched and flips the role I think he’ll flip I’ll explain why.
I don’t like G-Man’s vote on me at all, a full no u.
Still don’t trust Quin today but it seems like not many agree with me.
I think the town has an eye on Elo and I don’t expect her survival to mean a free ride, so I’m not voting there today.
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.
I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.
No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.
Well I demand that you think for yourself and not be taken in by others’ whims. Can you do that for me?thellama73 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:37 pmThat, and I really dislike it when people try to dissuade me from analyzing data. "No! Don't look at that, it means nothing! Look over here instead!" That does not seem like a productive attitude to take. It's what S~V~S used to call "stifling discussion" (even though she always accused me of doing it). I don't like Scotty telling me not to suspect Axe Body Spray, and I don't like Axe Body Spray telling me not to be suspicious of silent vote switching. I'll suspect who and what I want!sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:33 pmLlama is just having some old school thoughts on this. He came from the days of 1 vote no switching so that makes sense.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:32 pmThere is nothing less alignment indicative.thellama73 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:23 pm Lots of vote switching going on without people posting about it. Very suspicious.
Don't tell me what to do.Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:15 pmWell I demand that you think for yourself and not be taken in by others’ whims. Can you do that for me?thellama73 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:37 pmThat, and I really dislike it when people try to dissuade me from analyzing data. "No! Don't look at that, it means nothing! Look over here instead!" That does not seem like a productive attitude to take. It's what S~V~S used to call "stifling discussion" (even though she always accused me of doing it). I don't like Scotty telling me not to suspect Axe Body Spray, and I don't like Axe Body Spray telling me not to be suspicious of silent vote switching. I'll suspect who and what I want!sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:33 pmLlama is just having some old school thoughts on this. He came from the days of 1 vote no switching so that makes sense.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:32 pmThere is nothing less alignment indicative.thellama73 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:23 pm Lots of vote switching going on without people posting about it. Very suspicious.
I didn't know that. I think the eod chaos as you call it is a good moment to check reads
I do not mean to berate you. I don’t know you at all or what narratives are said about you.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 pmI mean, we have different definitions on what is harmful to town and I would prefer if you didn't play into a narrative that has been primarily held by people who actively berate me in game in a very problematic way.sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:57 pmGolden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.
I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.
No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.
Yea Axe usually harms the town as town. I can’t recall his mafia game play though.
I’m also back and forth on Vivax he seems both trying to solve and also just trying to just find what will stick.
You’re one of the most active posters and don’t even have a strong suspect.
Stop speaking so as to it incriminate teammates.Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:09 pm"antispew" is a new term to me.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:05 pmIt’s the first thing Sloonei has done in the game that actually does feel scummish to me, this can absolutely be real life but it can also be antispew. If Sloonei is lynched and flips bad it’s a good look on vivax, I don’t think you go into antispew and vote a teammate.Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:01 pmI understand obligations. It was your tone. You didn't try to get a read to make an informed vote before leaving. Your exact words were "Oh well."
I'm not talking about you, it's why I replied to Sig and not you because he should know better, and better understand that the narrative he is spreading came from people who harassed me every game.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pmI do not mean to berate you. I don’t know you at all or what narratives are said about you.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 pmI mean, we have different definitions on what is harmful to town and I would prefer if you didn't play into a narrative that has been primarily held by people who actively berate me in game in a very problematic way.sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:57 pmGolden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.
I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.
No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.
Yea Axe usually harms the town as town. I can’t recall his mafia game play though.
I’m also back and forth on Vivax he seems both trying to solve and also just trying to just find what will stick.
But you make me nervous. You are brazen in your lack of care for what the norms around role madness might be and why (from a town perspective). It’s a choice, and it’s your choice. I don’t mean to criticise you playing the way you want, but I still have to evaluate where your perspective is coming from.
heavy topic.This is, like… repetitive and quite insistent hinting at this point.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:12 pmI have no plans on helping you live through the day. But my Spidey sense says that you will somehow.
Classic Syndicate games had a much different attitude towards votes than what we are used to today.
It's no just a lack of caring for the norms around role madness though, I have very different ideas on how to play mafia in general!Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pmI do not mean to berate you. I don’t know you at all or what narratives are said about you.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 pmI mean, we have different definitions on what is harmful to town and I would prefer if you didn't play into a narrative that has been primarily held by people who actively berate me in game in a very problematic way.sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:57 pmGolden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.
I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.
No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.
Yea Axe usually harms the town as town. I can’t recall his mafia game play though.
I’m also back and forth on Vivax he seems both trying to solve and also just trying to just find what will stick.
But you make me nervous. You are brazen in your lack of care for what the norms around role madness might be and why (from a town perspective). It’s a choice, and it’s your choice. I don’t mean to criticise you playing the way you want, but I still have to evaluate where your perspective is coming from.
We'll have to agree to disagree. Are you catching up backwards?Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pmI didn't know that. I think the eod chaos as you call it is a good moment to check reads
I don't think the best vote is Sloonei D1 but you made a pretty strong caseScotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:19 pmYou’re one of the most active posters and don’t even have a strong suspect.
See, here’s the rub. Unfortunately, as one of Syndicate’s champions from Champs a few years ago, you have a huge precedent. Whether or not it’s fair, I think there’s a high expectation of you. If you’re town, you’re bound to be a valuable asset down the stretch.
I’m just not getting that spark that I expect.
You being here at end of day while you’re the top wagon is frustrating, but not offering a worthwhile alternative is just not a great solution either
I actually agree with all Scotty says here.Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:19 pmYou’re one of the most active posters and don’t even have a strong suspect.
See, here’s the rub. Unfortunately, as one of Syndicate’s champions from Champs a few years ago, you have a huge precedent. Whether or not it’s fair, I think there’s a high expectation of you. If you’re town, you’re bound to be a valuable asset down the stretch.
I’m just not getting that spark that I expect.
You being here at end of day while you’re the top wagon is frustrating, but not offering a worthwhile alternative is just not a great solution either
Wouldn't it make equally as much sense that a NON civ made one? Whether for informational purposes, to gain favor with the thread in general or, most importantly, to appear civ?
I can't catch up so fast, i was checking my alertsElohcin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:26 pmWe'll have to agree to disagree. Are you catching up backwards?Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pmI didn't know that. I think the eod chaos as you call it is a good moment to check reads
Everything is possible but I went with my gut thereKate wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:29 pmWouldn't it make equally as much sense that a NON civ made one? Whether for informational purposes, to gain favor with the thread in general or, most importantly, to appear civ?
But you signed up for an old school game. So, you should act like it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:23 pmIt's no just a lack of caring for the norms around role madness though, I have very different ideas on how to play mafia in general!Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pmI do not mean to berate you. I don’t know you at all or what narratives are said about you.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 pmI mean, we have different definitions on what is harmful to town and I would prefer if you didn't play into a narrative that has been primarily held by people who actively berate me in game in a very problematic way.sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:57 pmGolden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.
I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.
No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.
Yea Axe usually harms the town as town. I can’t recall his mafia game play though.
I’m also back and forth on Vivax he seems both trying to solve and also just trying to just find what will stick.
But you make me nervous. You are brazen in your lack of care for what the norms around role madness might be and why (from a town perspective). It’s a choice, and it’s your choice. I don’t mean to criticise you playing the way you want, but I still have to evaluate where your perspective is coming from.
Duly noted.Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:31 pmEverything is possible but I went with my gut thereKate wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:29 pmWouldn't it make equally as much sense that a NON civ made one? Whether for informational purposes, to gain favor with the thread in general or, most importantly, to appear civ?
I am always posting my ideas to check l them with everyone
I'm not about forcing myself to have reads. I will have a suspect when I have a suspect. I have presented some loose thoughts on Vivax as a suspect. I do not object to the Elohcin suspicions. But as for having a clear and definite Day 1 suspect, I cannot offer much guidance.Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:19 pmYou’re one of the most active posters and don’t even have a strong suspect.
See, here’s the rub. Unfortunately, as one of Syndicate’s champions from Champs a few years ago, you have a huge precedent. Whether or not it’s fair, I think there’s a high expectation of you. If you’re town, you’re bound to be a valuable asset down the stretch.
I’m just not getting that spark that I expect.
You being here at end of day while you’re the top wagon is frustrating, but not offering a worthwhile alternative is just not a great solution either
yes, top is vivax and second is sloonei, both for previously mentioned reasons. I am waiting to see how things go b/c I'm scared with the movable votingthellama73 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:23 pm Bea, Dfaraday, Eloh, and Lorab yet to vote with about a half hour to go.
Eloh, since you're around, any thoughts on where you plan to vote?
Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:31 pmBut you signed up for an old school game. So, you should act like it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:23 pmIt's no just a lack of caring for the norms around role madness though, I have very different ideas on how to play mafia in general!Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pmI do not mean to berate you. I don’t know you at all or what narratives are said about you.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 pmI mean, we have different definitions on what is harmful to town and I would prefer if you didn't play into a narrative that has been primarily held by people who actively berate me in game in a very problematic way.sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:57 pmGolden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.
I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.
No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.
Yea Axe usually harms the town as town. I can’t recall his mafia game play though.
I’m also back and forth on Vivax he seems both trying to solve and also just trying to just find what will stick.
But you make me nervous. You are brazen in your lack of care for what the norms around role madness might be and why (from a town perspective). It’s a choice, and it’s your choice. I don’t mean to criticise you playing the way you want, but I still have to evaluate where your perspective is coming from.
I mean…I don’t even know what that means. Typewriters and chewing tobacco?Elohcin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:31 pmBut you signed up for an old school game. So, you should act like it.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:23 pmIt's no just a lack of caring for the norms around role madness though, I have very different ideas on how to play mafia in general!Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:18 pmI do not mean to berate you. I don’t know you at all or what narratives are said about you.NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:07 pmI mean, we have different definitions on what is harmful to town and I would prefer if you didn't play into a narrative that has been primarily held by people who actively berate me in game in a very problematic way.sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:57 pmGolden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:54 pm
Axe is actively harmful to the town. That’s different from being mafia. I suspect a role hint exists here as well. Frustrating, makes me want to throw a vote to eliminate the chaos but my better instincts say, let’s see what happens today and re-evaluate.
I’ve gone back and forth on Vivax today and I’m back to feeling not great, but when I do feel good it’s because of solvey behaviour that I’m not keen to eliminate.
No one else has pinged me beyond a stray eye.
Yea Axe usually harms the town as town. I can’t recall his mafia game play though.
I’m also back and forth on Vivax he seems both trying to solve and also just trying to just find what will stick.
But you make me nervous. You are brazen in your lack of care for what the norms around role madness might be and why (from a town perspective). It’s a choice, and it’s your choice. I don’t mean to criticise you playing the way you want, but I still have to evaluate where your perspective is coming from.
To be clear, I am less interested in what Quin's reads actually are. I read him as town because of the way he communicated them.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:30 pm Yes I saw sloonei’s defence of Quin and it’s true Quin went in looking for evidence of w/w and modified based on evidence. But he’s the one who has pinged me most with other stuff, and I don’t think ‘trying to build a w/w connection and not finding it’ is inherently town.
Yes, he just wasn’t so blatant in my opinion until recently.
Same tbhSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:35 pmTo be clear, I am less interested in what Quin's reads actually are. I read him as town because of the way he communicated them.Golden wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:30 pm Yes I saw sloonei’s defence of Quin and it’s true Quin went in looking for evidence of w/w and modified based on evidence. But he’s the one who has pinged me most with other stuff, and I don’t think ‘trying to build a w/w connection and not finding it’ is inherently town.
Low on a rainbow list means bad or good? So the top is the most or least suspect?thellama73 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 7:36 pm One thing that bothered me about Quin was that he demanded an explanation for why I placed him low on my rainbow list, a request I deliberately ignored, and then he never followed up on it. Like he didn't actually care about finding out the answer. I'm tempted to switch my vote. But will I?
If he said he voted for her, all I can do is assume he voted for her. It reads to me like Axe read Scotty's post, liked the meat of it, and joined in. bea absolutely had a train going yesterday, because I looked at it and went "no" before continuing to do absolutely nothing about it.
