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Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:48 pm
by Alison
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:45 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:44 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:43 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:36 pm Yeah, that just kinda feels like a bunch of nitpicking. Calling promises of future content wolfy is like....you wait for the content to come or not come. And agreeing with meta and undermining yourself aren't scum indicative in the first place. Does feel bad faith.
okay. i dont find promises of future content either, but i do think that specifically saying: "i will need to read this part of the game again' on page 2 of the RVS phase can be indicative of a wolf who feels insecure about not being towny ~enough~ and is trying to cover for it by acting like they're going to post more content later. i noticed myself doing similar stuff when i was wolfing in hydra game 4 so i think it can be a legitimate wolftell with the right context

i think i somewhat agree with you that some of alison's reasons for pushing on ppl are flimsy/could be perceived as bad faith but i also dont particularly think this is alignment indicative for alison
So you're saying Alison is bad at catching wolves when she's town? :grin:
not bad at catching wolves, but projects confidence/assertiveness to a level that is easy to read as wolf-indicative when it's actually just Alison
This would be a perfectly normal post explaining my meta if if was directed to someone like Kate or Dennis who has never seen me in their life. Unfortunately it is directed at a player who has multiple years of experience with me both in game and out and really should know better. Occam's Razor suggests they are full of doodoo and therefore mafia.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:49 pm
by tutuu
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm i tried to play this cycle intentionally scummy thus far, being widely townread is weird and there are a few possible reasons for it
maybe we have a widely different ideas for how to play a town role immune to night kills, as my strategy would be the exact opposite of yours :P

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:49 pm
by Creature
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:39 pm
Creature wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:37 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:14 pm
Creature wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:01 pm I'll prob only be able to do good stuff after D1. I can't function without flips and seeing how wagons work on non-me players. Wagoning me here is detrimental to town.
also this post activates my fight or flight instincts with the way that creature worded it, even tho admittedly sometimes creature just makes post like that as both alignments
Turns out I've been able to do some good stuff D1.
Any comments on the confidence boost that SPF remarked on?
Confidence boost?

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:50 pm
by Alison
Creature wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:35 pm Next question: should we let lucy determine the elim as the IC

I think we should settle it now before she gives reads so mafia can't support/oppose the idea based on her reads
I dunno. I feel like we should let wagons happen naturally for wagonomics.
Perhaps we should give lucy the power to force the exe choice if she wants, but leave it uncertain as to whether or not she'll do so or let us choose naturally. That way wagoning decisions we make still matter and we preserve the wagonomics while reserving the ability for our IC to step in and avert a scum directed EOD.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:51 pm
by Creature
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:40 pm i think it would be more beneficial for lucy to have control over the specific wagons (ie: creating a pool that we eliminate from) instead of choosing the elimination directly. this forces the wolves to either bus their partner or powerwolf if a wolf is in the POE and gives more readable spew, whereas if lucy leads on a town today then the wolves can just kill them with no accountability

not sure if that makes sense but that's my recommendation
Alright I guess I like this

Narrows down the options but still gives some competition

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:51 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
@Alison

Why aren’t you voting me if I’m outted? 😺

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:53 pm
by robyn
i disagree with alison's roxy read, roxy as mafia is impressively coherent and strategic with her posts (i've just wolfed with and then against her)

i don't think she's an outed wolf, if anything she's towny especially because of something that happened before rand

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:53 pm
by Alison
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:51 pm @Alison

Why aren’t you voting me if I’m outted? 😺
This was asked earlier and my response is that Roxy is more outed

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:53 pm
by Alison
Like I've called three people outed and I only have one vote so

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:54 pm
by Creature
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:46 pm
Creature wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:45 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:31 pm and i think i care less about creature's specific meta tells and more about whether his reads are real

and im not convinced that: "drwilgy has a wolflist with town in it, so he must be mafia" is a thought that town!creature would have with the context of him having posted a 0/3 SOLVE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF DA BOIS GAME
Once again this is nowhere a lock for DrWilgy. I think a 0/3 list is usually >rand wolf indicative especially when I see DrWilgy as a player with good reads as town and heavily wolfsiding as wolf.

aorn though I'm no longer wolfleaning DrWilgy.
what changed your mind about wilgy?
I ended up having a discussion with him some pages ago but I guess it was mostly I realized I was being too harsh on him for a not strong reason.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:54 pm
by Alison
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:53 pm i disagree with alison's roxy read, roxy as mafia is impressively coherent and strategic with her posts (i've just wolfed with and then against her)

i don't think she's an outed wolf, if anything she's towny especially because of something that happened before rand
It's clear she lost her temper and her posts are less coherent and strategic before that; do you think she has a calmer temper as mafia?

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:55 pm
by Alison
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:40 pm i think it would be more beneficial for lucy to have control over the specific wagons (ie: creating a pool that we eliminate from) instead of choosing the elimination directly. this forces the wolves to either bus their partner or powerwolf if a wolf is in the POE and gives more readable spew, whereas if lucy leads on a town today then the wolves can just kill them with no accountability

not sure if that makes sense but that's my recommendation
Think thats fine

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:55 pm
by Creature
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm i tried to play this cycle intentionally scummy thus far, being widely townread is weird and there are a few possible reasons for it
Wouldn't it have been better for the oracle to draw the NK?

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:56 pm
by Seanzie
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:36 pm
Spoiler: show
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:20 pm why do u think that alison's reads are wolf-indicative? i thought that the original post she pointed out from kate was legitimately wolfy, or i could at least understand why someone would take issue with it. do u think the ppl she's pushing (kate/roxy) are town?
I think they sound fake and agenday, incomplete analysis aside.

I don't have a read on them.
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:20 pm Only > rand, not even >> rand. smh
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:24 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:21 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm Kate still has not done anything after coming back to the game by the way.
This feels gross.

Most of Alison's posts feel gross.
what feels gross about it?
It doesn't feel like hunting. It feels like trying to make a player look bad to other players.

Town do try to make players look bad to other players but it's when they are convinced that player is scum. Like, there have been a lot of times that (regardless of if I'm correct or not) I've felt like I've had a wolf and people won't follow my vote and I'm just screaming into the void. That's a thing townies do.

But just shade on a player like that D1 for not doing enough? Feels like a thing wolves do.
okay

so then what do you think about alison's original reason for pushing on kate? do you think it looks like alison is talking about kate in a bad faith way?
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:08 am
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:39 am
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:05 am I agree with SPF that this is a super unexciting game so far. I am just gonna vote the easiest wolf to catch and try to break the game open with associatives.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine
Kate wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:58 pm
sig wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:46 pm Also from my limited games with rondo he seems to be playing within his civ meta right now so probably wouldn’t want to vote their today
Just read through once and I for now agree on this. This is almost identical to the way he opened the last game and he was civ. Unless of course, he's doing that to make us think that... anyway nothing about his gameplay pings me thus far.

Lots of pings in this thread for a cold day 1 from many people. I'll have to reread tomorrow for any deeper thoughts.
Explain to me what's obvscum about this post
She agrees with Rondo meta, immediately undermines her own view, then promises a future reread (a reread? Thread was literally 2 pages) that has to happen before she gives any deeper thoughts. It's a waffly nothingburger of a post.
because i can understand why the thought of: "this player isn't doing enough" could be wolfy to say about someone this early into the game, but i also feel like you're singling out that specific post from alison without seeming to factor her original reason for pushing kate in the first place into your analysis. it feels like incomplete analysis
Yeah, that just kinda feels like a bunch of nitpicking. Calling promises of future content wolfy is like....you wait for the content to come or not come. And agreeing with meta and undermining yourself aren't scum indicative in the first place. Does feel bad faith.
As a former math teacher, >> is an incorrect use of > signs. :mad:
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
That I would only use for like wrestler or superhero tier lists.
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:24 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:21 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:18 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:16 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:18 pm Kate still has not done anything after coming back to the game by the way.
This feels gross.

Most of Alison's posts feel gross.
what feels gross about it?
It doesn't feel like hunting. It feels like trying to make a player look bad to other players.

Town do try to make players look bad to other players but it's when they are convinced that player is scum. Like, there have been a lot of times that (regardless of if I'm correct or not) I've felt like I've had a wolf and people won't follow my vote and I'm just screaming into the void. That's a thing townies do.

But just shade on a player like that D1 for not doing enough? Feels like a thing wolves do.
okay

so then what do you think about alison's original reason for pushing on kate? do you think it looks like alison is talking about kate in a bad faith way?
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:08 am
MacDougall wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:39 am
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:05 am I agree with SPF that this is a super unexciting game so far. I am just gonna vote the easiest wolf to catch and try to break the game open with associatives.

[VOTE: Kate] aubergine
Kate wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:58 pm
sig wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:46 pm Also from my limited games with rondo he seems to be playing within his civ meta right now so probably wouldn’t want to vote their today
Just read through once and I for now agree on this. This is almost identical to the way he opened the last game and he was civ. Unless of course, he's doing that to make us think that... anyway nothing about his gameplay pings me thus far.

Lots of pings in this thread for a cold day 1 from many people. I'll have to reread tomorrow for any deeper thoughts.
Explain to me what's obvscum about this post
She agrees with Rondo meta, immediately undermines her own view, then promises a future reread (a reread? Thread was literally 2 pages) that has to happen before she gives any deeper thoughts. It's a waffly nothingburger of a post.
because i can understand why the thought of: "this player isn't doing enough" could be wolfy to say about someone this early into the game, but i also feel like you're singling out that specific post from alison without seeming to factor her original reason for pushing kate in the first place into your analysis. it feels like incomplete analysis
Yeah, that just kinda feels like a bunch of nitpicking. Calling promises of future content wolfy is like....you wait for the content to come or not come. And agreeing with meta and undermining yourself aren't scum indicative in the first place. Does feel bad faith.
Actually given two functions f=f(n) and g=g(n), f>>g means that the limit as n goes to infinity of f/g goes to infinity. Unless you're a number theorist... then f>>g just means g=O(f), which in my opinion is just bad.

Interestingly f>>g does not imply f>g in either case.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:57 pm
by Porscha
RondoDimBuckle wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:20 am Current leans
@Porscha town === post 204 which part are you referring to specifically? (Equity with falcon but probably just town) And what do you mean by post 61? If you town read me can you articulate why?

Spoiler: show
Or you can ignore all of this Im not your mum
Sorry only answering what was directed at me
1) uh, specifically the part about lucy. I thought that was pretty clear lol
2) I was assuming a reason to think why they would say that about you because so far you havent personally pinged me, but I understand if someone is less familiar with you then that tends to be the general sentiment of how others feel towards you lol
3) you can have a TL specifically for this post because it's pretty try hard but I wasnt tr'ing you before it and frankly I think you're still possibly within wolf meta as well as town meta so I am letting you sit in the slow cooker for now

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:57 pm
by Creature
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:53 pm i disagree with alison's roxy read, roxy as mafia is impressively coherent and strategic with her posts (i've just wolfed with and then against her)

i don't think she's an outed wolf, if anything she's towny especially because of something that happened before rand
So she's polite and soft-spoken when she gets a red role PM in her inbox?

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:58 pm
by tutuu
id townread myself for doubting lucy's claim
but then if im aware of it its no longer towny
but then if im honest about this thought crossing my mind and i put it in the thread - maybe thats good?
or is it bad? coz im being self-aware for no reason?
but can u truly say its for no reason? can u truly say people dont think about themselves at all times? no u cant
is my brain small and smooth? why yes it is
but
yeah man

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:58 pm
by Alison
Creature wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:57 pm
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:53 pm i disagree with alison's roxy read, roxy as mafia is impressively coherent and strategic with her posts (i've just wolfed with and then against her)

i don't think she's an outed wolf, if anything she's towny especially because of something that happened before rand
So she's polite and soft-spoken when she gets a red role PM in her inbox?
Kate who's apparently experienced with Roxy says otherwise

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:58 pm
by Porscha
Me slep me wake me go werk I'll try to pop in and do more catch up during day but I awoke with many pages to read so I'll probably end up staying behind if this rate of posting keeps up lol

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:59 pm
by Baudib1
Creature wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:55 pm
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm i tried to play this cycle intentionally scummy thus far, being widely townread is weird and there are a few possible reasons for it
Wouldn't it have been better for the oracle to draw the NK?
I think Lucy was trying to draw heat and attempt to make reads odd that, knowing that she had a trump card to prevent her elimination.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:59 pm
by robyn
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:54 pm
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:53 pm i disagree with alison's roxy read, roxy as mafia is impressively coherent and strategic with her posts (i've just wolfed with and then against her)

i don't think she's an outed wolf, if anything she's towny especially because of something that happened before rand
It's clear she lost her temper and her posts are less coherent and strategic before that; do you think she has a calmer temper as mafia?
yes, absolutely. i think you've just tilted her. in her mafia games there was pretty obvious agenda behind every post, i don't see that here. and we kinda talked on dc how she would try to keep a calmer temper in general

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:00 pm
by tutuu
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:59 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:54 pm
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:53 pm i disagree with alison's roxy read, roxy as mafia is impressively coherent and strategic with her posts (i've just wolfed with and then against her)

i don't think she's an outed wolf, if anything she's towny especially because of something that happened before rand
It's clear she lost her temper and her posts are less coherent and strategic before that; do you think she has a calmer temper as mafia?
yes, absolutely. i think you've just tilted her. in her mafia games there was pretty obvious agenda behind every post, i don't see that here. and we kinda talked on dc how she would try to keep a calmer temper in general
ok

[VOTE: Creature] aubergine

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:00 pm
by Alison
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:59 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:54 pm
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:53 pm i disagree with alison's roxy read, roxy as mafia is impressively coherent and strategic with her posts (i've just wolfed with and then against her)

i don't think she's an outed wolf, if anything she's towny especially because of something that happened before rand
It's clear she lost her temper and her posts are less coherent and strategic before that; do you think she has a calmer temper as mafia?
yes, absolutely. i think you've just tilted her. in her mafia games there was pretty obvious agenda behind every post, i don't see that here. and we kinda talked on dc how she would try to keep a calmer temper in general
Then I could tilt her even if she is mafia, therefore bypassing her usual meta of coherent and strategic posts.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:01 pm
by Alison
I don't get how the private convo about keeping a calmer temper matters at all since she clearly didn't follow that advice

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:01 pm
by Seanzie
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:50 pm
Creature wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:35 pm Next question: should we let lucy determine the elim as the IC

I think we should settle it now before she gives reads so mafia can't support/oppose the idea based on her reads
I dunno. I feel like we should let wagons happen naturally for wagonomics.
Perhaps we should give lucy the power to force the exe choice if she wants, but leave it uncertain as to whether or not she'll do so or let us choose naturally. That way wagoning decisions we make still matter and we preserve the wagonomics while reserving the ability for our IC to step in and avert a scum directed EOD.
This does not work in practice.

I'm just going to play like normal.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:02 pm
by robyn
alison, 100 post count with no lift before eod

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:03 pm
by tutuu
*magically puts more pressure on baudi and porscha coz they're getting townreads and i dont LIKE IT*

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:04 pm
by Seanzie
Hot take: Alison/Roxy is w/w.

Do I believe it? I don't know. But it is a hot take.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:04 pm
by Baudib1
tutuu wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:03 pm *magically puts more pressure on baudi and porscha coz they're getting townreads and i dont LIKE IT*
Sure

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:05 pm
by robyn
Creature wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:55 pm
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm i tried to play this cycle intentionally scummy thus far, being widely townread is weird and there are a few possible reasons for it
Wouldn't it have been better for the oracle to draw the NK?
i don't get nked here in this playlist until d3-4, optimal play is to increase town influence and IC myself early as that's more pro town

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:05 pm
by robyn
Seanzie wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:04 pm Hot take: Alison/Roxy is w/w.

Do I believe it? I don't know. But it is a hot take.
bad take, feels v/v

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:05 pm
by tutuu
Baudib1 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:04 pm
tutuu wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:03 pm *magically puts more pressure on baudi and porscha coz they're getting townreads and i dont LIKE IT*
Sure
be afraid. be scared. be wary.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:06 pm
by Seanzie
tutuu wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:03 pm *magically puts more pressure on baudi and porscha coz they're getting townreads and i dont LIKE IT*
Baudi could easily be someone offsite who is quite good and are getting townread because they are new and not obvwolf, so yeah, I'm kind of okay with that.

I don't know them so I can't comment on if that is likely or not.

Porscha feels fine.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:06 pm
by robyn
► Show Spoiler

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:06 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
well, since we can all agree that Alison and Roxy are either w/w, v/w or v/v, we should infoyeet Alison.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:06 pm
by Seanzie
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:05 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:04 pm Hot take: Alison/Roxy is w/w.

Do I believe it? I don't know. But it is a hot take.
bad take, feels v/v
That's a boring cold take.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:07 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Also, just assume that everything happens for a reason, including rands.

Ergo, you can townread Seanzie, me, Creature, Falcon, Porscha and you can scumread Alison, Wilgy.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:09 pm
by Baudib1
Some people are born great
Others have greatness thrust upon them
Sometimes you should just yeet Jack

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:11 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Baudib1 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:09 pm Some people are born great
Others have greatness thrust upon them
Sometimes you should just yeet Jack
I mean, in theory, you should try to yeet me every D1 to immediately determine my alignment.

In practice, I'm obviously town so what are you doing?

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:11 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Alison/Baudib at least not w/w, which is neat.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:12 pm
by Baudib1
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:11 pm Alison/Baudib at least not w/w, which is neat.
Wrong we are obv w/w

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:14 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Baudib1 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:12 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:11 pm Alison/Baudib at least not w/w, which is neat.
Wrong we are obv w/w
I know you're the last person I have to say this to but I just don't think that Alison ever asks for or her teammate ever feels the need to chainsaw defend her with a meh push on me. Like you let Alison handle it herself, you silence me with nks, you bus Alison. She doesn't want or need your help.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:17 pm
by Baudib1
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:14 pm
Baudib1 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:12 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:11 pm Alison/Baudib at least not w/w, which is neat.
Wrong we are obv w/w
I know you're the last person I have to say this to but I just don't think that Alison ever asks for or her teammate ever feels the need to chainsaw defend her with a meh push on me. Like you let Alison handle it herself, you silence me with nks, you bus Alison. She doesn't want or need your help.
That’s not how I would handle it.
I’m not a fan of preflip associative reads at all and in general people overestimate their ability to make sense of associative reads postflip anyway.
I assure you there’s nothing in this hand I couldn’t do as W/W with anyone.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:22 pm
by falcon45ca
[VOTE: Baudi] aubergine

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:23 pm
by tutuu
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:22 pm [VOTE: Baudi] aubergine
[VOTE: Baudi] aubergine

mf scum sit the FUCK down son i aint got time for ur BS

bark for me doggie! say woof woof!

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:02 pm
by Bereft
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:35 pm Next question: should we let lucy determine the elim as the IC

I think we should settle it now before she gives reads so mafia can't support/oppose the idea based on her reads
No.

I will take this opportunity to state in advance in response to whoever it was that thought card usage discussion is useful, that I will take full advantage of "antitown" cards. They're not "antitown" if used correctly. Wish I remembered who I'm responding to.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:05 pm
by Baudib1
Bereft wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:02 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:35 pm Next question: should we let lucy determine the elim as the IC

I think we should settle it now before she gives reads so mafia can't support/oppose the idea based on her reads
No.

I will take this opportunity to state in advance in response to whoever it was that thought card usage discussion is useful, that I will take full advantage of "antitown" cards. They're not "antitown" if used correctly. Wish I remembered who I'm responding to.
I agree. It was tutuu

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:08 pm
by sig
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:51 pm
sig wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:45 pm We just voted off falcon day 1 so we can’t do that again this game
Did you vote for me? Why or why not?
I don’t think I had subbed in by then actually, but it seemed like a very dumb reason to vote for you and you were civ. With people like you, me and Wilgy it’s common for us to get booted d1/2 for dumb stuff so I’m always against these types of ealry votes

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:09 pm
by Bereft
lucy wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 3:47 pm i tried to play this cycle intentionally scummy thus far, being widely townread is weird and there are a few possible reasons for it
The correct reason is that you do not have a good idea of what makes a look person scummy.

Re: Cartomancy [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:09 pm
by sig
Dennis wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 12:10 am
sig wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:11 pm
Creature wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:25 pm [VOTE: sig] aubergine
serious cap time.


This is actually a really bad vote and look for creature. We’ve played enough over the years he’s getting an :eye: :werewolf:
Why is this vote in particular so bad? I mean he didn't explain it at all, is there some history between you two that I don't know?
Not explaining his vote and swooping in just to cast a vote and leave is in itself odd.

Creature was very active back in the day when I was voted out early and always when I was civ. So any old school player that hasn’t been around for awhile that votes for me early is a red flag especially when they don’t contribute at all besides voting