The Syndicate

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:22 am They talk later about their reasons and it was not the mech post. But you assume it is and run with it and ask questions about that.

It's strange to me that Lime Coke rushes to call you town too given the above.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

It is a bit of a misrepresentation to frame it like this, they made their posts at the start of the day and haven't posted since then. As for me I don't have an opinion on Creature yet but didn't find their early posts to be alarming (though I also dislike when people say they're not good on day 1 like this)

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:25 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:23 am Why for both? Why maybe?

Chelsea's questioning of me feels towny since she isn't just trying to kill me or get me in a gotcha it's just trying to figure out what I'm doing.


Manny because of him looking to sheep Chelsea but doesn't instantly do it the moment she votes someone and questions it.

Maybe because it's something Manny can do as mafia but I'm choosing to think it's town.

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:27 am My early feelings are ☆Princess Abigail☆ and Michelle leaning towny

Lime Coke maybe leaning town

Manny leaning mafia

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:33 am Linking activity with towniness when people come from different time zones is not what I will trust as an actual thought

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:21 pm Kinda leaning Michelle town, but I'd rather see a post from her that makes me go like "yeah, this is town", just like I got a post from Lime Coke that made me say that.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:23 pm I’m not a fan of Manny random vote

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:09 am

Manny wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:21 am M-m-m-mafia

hi nerd

Ha some retirement

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:10 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:27 am

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:22 am They talk later about their reasons and it was not the mech post. But you assume it is and run with it and ask questions about that.

It's strange to me that Lime Coke rushes to call you town too given the above.

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

It is a bit of a misrepresentation to frame it like this, they made their posts at the start of the day and haven't posted since then. As for me I don't have an opinion on Creature yet but didn't find their early posts to be alarming (though I also dislike when people say they're not good on day 1 like this)

Can you talk a little about your playstyle?
Also if you can link recent games as both alignaments it would be nice

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:21 am M-m-m-mafia

Hello Michelle, pleasure to see you

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:11 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:29 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:21 am M-m-m-mafia

Mac!!!!!! Hiiii!!!

Hello Abi. A pleasure as always indeed.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:12 am And to all who didn't greet me, a pox on your houses

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:13 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:55 am

Michelle wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:06 am Where is @MacDougall ?

I have to work, but when I come back I want your reads, sir!

Also @LanMisa how are you? I hope you have time to play this game

If Mac doesn't call me town he's wolfing

I was going to.

Still am, but I also was going to.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:16 am

Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:06 am Lime
Michelle
Creature
-
Dunnstral
Abigail

GN

@Creature going to require citation on that one.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:17 am My feeling is most of the mafia have yet to post.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Ama.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:32 pm I am unimpressed by Dunnstral, Manny and falcon45ca.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:32 pm Just got to page 6 and I am pretty bored already

I think Michelle, Lime Coke and Princess Abigail are my top townreads.

Chelsea is kinda towny, but not by much.

I am unimpressed by Dunnstral, Manny and falcon45ca.

Mac and Seanzie looked the worst.

LanMisa wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:06 pm Okay, managed to catch up properly. Thoughts so far:

Townreads: Chelsea, Scotty

Both had strong openings, don't shy away from making waves and throwing out reads early, both feel inquisitive and mindful

Slight townleans: Abigail, Michelle
Abigail had some volume that I consider "empty" but also one banger reads list. I kinda agree that wolves don't seem to have a lot of thread presence yet since I townread all the players who made waves so far.

Michelle feels towny in tone and approach as well but it has been ages since I had meaningful games with Michelle so I am not quite up to date on how to read her.

Neutral: Lime, Creature
Lime had the slight issue in my eyes that I felt like he was mostly going for the "everyone is happiness" approach, a strategy I like to do in uninspired wolf games that can come from TMI and a lack of easy pushes. I disliked the "forcing townreads" stuff. I don't have any direct issue with a single post though, so... we'll see where this goes.

Creature has a NAI Creature opening so far but as per usual I will roast you over the fiery pit if I don't get to see at least SOME reads and gameplay-related posts before the end of the phase - THIS is usually what makes Creature obvious, whether his whining gets backed up by an attempt of participation - or not.

Worrisome: Manny, seanzie, Dunnstral
Manny feels less energetic than I'd thought I'd see him play in a game with several of the people he himself recruited. I do have a potential explanation on why he'd play the way he does (at least if this could be compared to MU games) but... I honestly hoped to find Manny early D1 and just chill, which is not the case.

Dunnstral has had a lot of posts but nothing so far managed to stick with me. If someone else knows how to read Dunn I'm all ears, but from experience this is something that's either wolf indicative - or a clash of playstyle/personal tiredness.

seanzie had a lot of nothing paired with a long period of absence, and as I said earlier it's the one take from Scotty that I disagree with, so far.

Rest of the crowd didn't leave an impression enough to be on this list yet.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:24 pm

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:17 am

Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 am Thanks for the fish.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:47 pm Fuck it Scotty can be town.

Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?

I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.

Lots of incorrect assumptions in this post.

Agreed. Because I share this viewpoint I will light townread you. It shows Chelsea hasn’t really read the thread before making a blanket statement/read.

Also light scum read Chelsea.

Current list:

Townread:
Seanzie
Princess Abbi
TSP

Townlean:
Dunnstral

Scum lean:
Lime Coke
Chelsea
Creature

Scumread:
Michelle

sig wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:13 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:18 am I will not vote creature

I will not vote creature

Creature has the worst entrance but I will not vote creature

Creature entrance was very weird? Honestly it was so weird I wanna town read them lol

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:46 pm Creature and sig are wolves.

Epi cosplaying as Three Billboards Outside New Vegas is NAI on the long run for him honestly, but the content is not towny to me.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:24 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:21 pm Kinda leaning Michelle town, but I'd rather see a post from her that makes me go like "yeah, this is town", just like I got a post from Lime Coke that made me say that.

Idk if you find, tbh

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Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:30 pm Creature can be V ig

Creature/Lan/Mich/Scotty/Brad/Mac V

if i had to add anyone else it'd prolly be dunnstral but i refuse to do it by virtue of them not tr'ing me :hmmyes:

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:33 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:32 pm I am unimpressed by Dunnstral, Manny and falcon45ca.

Herculean ability to unimpress everyone.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:51 pm Gonna need to explain Mac. It looks like he's trying to go for a show when he got nothing to offer.

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:54 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:51 pm Gonna need to explain Mac. It looks like he's trying to go for a show when he got nothing to offer.

He seemed fine when i was realtiming with him and i dont have much interest in d1'ing him.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:56 pm I doubt he's getting D1ed because he's Mac, but atm I think he's more likely wolfing. Came off as quite unimpressive.

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:11 pm @MacDougall come play sir

[VOTE: BigMac] aubergine

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 1:22 am I’d really like to max post but I’m working too much these days. I’m town

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 8:40 pm Also gotta eat someone fill me in

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:17 pm Manny still feels like a low motivated wolf and his wagon doesn't grow which is concerning.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:35 pm Can we do Lime instead? I'd also consider Scotty, or maybe even Epi.

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:31 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:17 pm Manny still feels like a low motivated wolf and his wagon doesn't grow which is concerning.

Whats the difference between a low motivated town and a low motivated wolf?.

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:39 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:35 pm Can we do Lime instead? I'd also consider Scotty, or maybe even Epi.

I'd be surprised if Lime is a wolf here tbh, it'd mean he has improved his wolfgame a lot compared to my mental conception of it.
I also think Scotty is more likely town than not but maybe im just a sucker considering Mac also sr'd him and i have 0 meta of them.
Epi is fine as a vote in my brain

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:44 pm Dunno, you tell me.

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:57 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:44 pm Dunno, you tell me.

Im not the one reading others based on low motivation :curtain:

Michelle wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 2:59 pm Actually low motivated town look more like Tony than like you.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:57 pm

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:52 pm If you look at all the "active players" at any moment in this thread and think "they're all town" then you're either a huge sucker, or non-town yourself.

Oh yeah

I'd be pretty concerned if I were townreading all the active players unless it was like early game

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:01 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 11:20 pm Why is it "obviously"?

I think this is roughly where I left off.

…

He says before receiving a text and disappearing for a few hours after finding his spot.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:13 pmAfter playing Don't Starve mafia I feel like in Syndicate I am playing against AIs learning mafia

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:16 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

Actually I am a lot more prone to do that as town. As a wolf I am worried that's gonna draw too much attention to me and I'd rather just jump into game solving instead.

I have good reasons to be complaining about people voting me for going inactive, because that happened an awful lot of times for me on Syndicate. I am rarely ever mislynched (as town) in MU, but I get mislynched quite a lot here even when I spend the entire day defending myself and arguing for another lynch.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:52 pm

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:33 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:32 pm I am unimpressed by Dunnstral, Manny and falcon45ca.

Herculean ability to unimpress everyone.

Your pfp gives the mood.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:23 pm I’m not a fan of Manny random vote

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:11 pm

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:33 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:26 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:17 am

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:14 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:03 am Have a feeling this one's gonna be disappointing with how this started.

Why is that?

Very slow start.

Probably gonna be inactive as hell.

I will be misyeeted because people will do dumb things.

Town will lose afterwards.

That would be annoying I need some wins

Fucking same I think I've only gotten 1 win since I came back.

1) Rand town
2) Do your best
3) Die and watch town ignore wolves
4) Lose

or

1) Rand wolf
2) Get lynched D1
3) Let your wolfmates carry you
4) Win

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:16 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

Actually I am a lot more prone to do that as town. As a wolf I am worried that's gonna draw too much attention to me and I'd rather just jump into game solving instead.

I have good reasons to be complaining about people voting me for going inactive, because that happened an awful lot of times for me on Syndicate. I am rarely ever mislynched (as town) in MU, but I get mislynched quite a lot here even when I spend the entire day defending myself and arguing for another lynch.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:12 pm

sig wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:23 pm I’m not a fan of Manny random vote

I’m not either ngl
Very naked. Naked mole rat vote

Dunno if that has bearing on you.

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:12 pm Very naked. Naked mole rat vote

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:16 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:16 pm

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:07 am Creature keeps making excuses for why people are gonna vote him and it feels very defeatist in a wolfy way but I won't vote there unless someone checks me because I can't read creature

Actually I am a lot more prone to do that as town. As a wolf I am worried that's gonna draw too much attention to me and I'd rather just jump into game solving instead.

I have good reasons to be complaining about people voting me for going inactive, because that happened an awful lot of times for me on Syndicate. I am rarely ever mislynched (as town) in MU, but I get mislynched quite a lot here even when I spend the entire day defending myself and arguing for another lynch.

Remind me if I’m wrong, but don’t you dislike rolling wolf and slank off with those rolls?

Manny wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:18 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 3:12 pm Very naked. Naked mole rat vote

its a "i have no reason to think they're town" vote.
dont think saying that does anything for sig or anyone so didnt.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:42 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 3:24 pm

Dunnstral wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 5:17 am

Chelsea wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:21 am Thanks for the fish.

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Feb 12, 2024 10:47 pm Fuck it Scotty can be town.

Do you base this on the mech post? I find that a tad odd because anyone can speak on mech, especially considering it's basically truth-talk and busy work Day 1. It's probably the most irrelevant line of conversation you can go down. Now, given it's RVS at that point, sure talk away on a matter I consider unimportant but out of all of Scotty's early posts, why that one?

I can't decipher whether your reaction is over-eager or just premature. Even with your later answer just doesn’t feel like you should be this set.

Lots of incorrect assumptions in this post.

Agreed. Because I share this viewpoint I will light townread you. It shows Chelsea hasn’t really read the thread before making a blanket statement/read.

Also light scum read Chelsea.

Current list:

Townread:
Seanzie
Princess Abbi
TSP

Townlean:
Dunnstral

Scum lean:
Lime Coke
Chelsea
Creature

Scumread:
Michelle

Is this readslist intentionally upsidedown?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 1:47 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:46 pm Creature and sig are wolves.

Epi cosplaying as Three Billboards Outside New Vegas is NAI on the long run for him honestly, but the content is not towny to me.

Are you listing me as a wolf for disappearing half of the day?