Dr. Who Mafia - Night 12

#651

Thanks so much

I think i have been helping, but OK

I voted, i am out of here. xox

Linki Dana, you are the most sensible person ever, what are you doing here??

#652

I am going to go ahead and vote Enrique . I'm voting that way because out of the two with the most votes juliets doesn't come off bad to me . and when I was reading enrique a couple of things he said pinged me.

#653

I have not read anything and quite frankly I am a bit tired tonight.

I have to random my vote.

Done. Got Black Rock.

I promise to catch up and give thoughts tomorrow.

#654

I feel torn. The posts say clearly different ideas. But she could have just been changing her mind between the two posts, I don't know. Her tone and posts right me read genuine to me. But what strikes me as weird is Made trying to say the posts are the same. They are very different in my opinion. Not just in wording but in content.

I have to vote. I don't think my voting for Made is going to make any difference and I think if Juliet's does flip bad, I will be looking at Made next so I'm going to go ahead and vote Juliets.

*votes*

#655

zeek wrote:How does it make sense?

If she were bad with teammates, I feel like some people would have tried to steer the votes away from her, while still being as subtle as possible. But it does not seem like that happened at all. Most people seem more than happy to just vote for her and follow the crowd. If she's not on their team then lynching her just helps them, right?

#656

@Dana

nijuukyugou wrote:I've got to drive and celebrate my brother's bday and I don't know when I'll be back (likely after the voting for both games I'm playing), so thoughts and my vote:

1) Still don't see MP as bad. Don't really know why people are voting for him. I've read the thread (or at least most of it in the last hour, since I was stupid enough to leave myself 7+ pages to read) and saw a baddie-hunting MP. Plus, one's gotta feel bad for a guy who can't stay alive past the first day in sooooo many games :P

2) In my catching up, the "supatown" comment by Enrique (giving zeek the suspicious eye for using the term) really honestly pinged me, before I even saw what others said about it. I don't read his defense of the comment as genuine, either - he gave zeek the eye and called him suspicious, then backed off and tried to say "no, I wasn't witch hunting" and "why would I push a lynch for a random civilian?" If you weren't pushing towards a lynch or trying to garner suspicion, and you weren't witch hunting/weeding out suspicion, then what exactly were you trying to accomplish through that comment? Your explanations change with whomever is asking, and it's not consistent. This is the most suspicious thing to me so far.

I see other suspicions of other people popping up, but I really don't have time right now to look at that, as I've spent the last hour and a half piecing the above suspicion together from the last 7 damned pages to read (my fault, no one else's, I know). I gotta look at my other game really quick and then get on the road, so going ahead and voting Enrique.

Not to mention, not everyone can be around at the same time. If there truly was no resistance for a juliets lynch I don't think I'd have 5 votes.

#657

Dana wrote:
zeek wrote:How does it make sense?
If she were bad with teammates, I feel like some people would have tried to steer the votes away from her, while still being as subtle as possible. But it does not seem like that happened at all. Most people seem more than happy to just vote for her and follow the crowd. If she's not on their team then lynching her just helps them, right?

She has 8 votes of out 30/31. It's not exactly a landslide.

But why does her defence make sense?

#658

juliets wrote:Oh, and note that no one defended me before it got out of hand. That should be a big tell.

I wouldn't defend you either.

#659

zeek wrote:
Dana wrote:
zeek wrote:How does it make sense?
If she were bad with teammates, I feel like some people would have tried to steer the votes away from her, while still being as subtle as possible. But it does not seem like that happened at all. Most people seem more than happy to just vote for her and follow the crowd. If she's not on their team then lynching her just helps them, right?
She has 8 votes of out 30/31. It's not exactly a landslide.

But why does her defence make sense?

By defense thing, I meant her defense of the lack of defense for her made sense to me. I explained why in my last post.

#660

Ah, I thought you meant her reasoning for posting differently.

Spacedaisy wrote:But she could have just been changing her mind between the two posts, I don't know.

I asked her why she didn't copy and paste. She said it was too much of a bother, not that she'd changed her mind.

#661

Dana if her whole team came out right now and got me killed it wouldn't exactly look very good for them

But this is still far from a landslide, and it could very easily be switched around.

#662

Well, not anymore... but you get me. Lots of non-voters this round.

Does Gotrees know we started? I saw he was on IRC earlier but he hasn't posted here yet.

#663

Dammit, just missed the vote.

#664

Ok imma do my thing now. I should have this running pretty quickish....

#665

Ugh, was still trying to catch up and decide on my vote. I wasn't going to vote juliets and was debating whether to vote enrique instead. I really havent had enough time to properly catch-up. I think Epi made a valid case against juliets and it read pretty bad, but her defense is ringing true to me and how some of the votes came in seems very bandwagony.

#666

zeek wrote:Ah, I thought you meant her reasoning for posting differently.

Spacedaisy wrote:But she could have just been changing her mind between the two posts, I don't know.
I asked her why she didn't copy and paste. She said it was too much of a bother, not that she'd changed her mind.

Thats kinda quibbly, to be honest. I will reserve judgment until we see how she flips, but if that is the entire basis of the case against her that is kinda weak. I hope you are right.

Linkii, but don't the bad teams only have 4 people on them, Rico? Aren't you implying that some of the people who voted you were doing so to save juliets? You may be right, but she sounded pretty sincere to me.

#667

S~V~S wrote:
zeek wrote:Ah, I thought you meant her reasoning for posting differently.

Spacedaisy wrote:But she could have just been changing her mind between the two posts, I don't know.
I asked her why she didn't copy and paste. She said it was too much of a bother, not that she'd changed her mind.
Thats kinda quibbly, to be honest. I will reserve judgment until we see how she flips, but if that is the entire basis of the case against her that is kinda weak. I hope you are right.

The problem is how it changed.

#668

Bass_the_awesome
0
No votes

Black Rocker
1
Roxy (21)
5%

Bullzy
0
No votes

Boggskittah
0
No votes

Canuckaduck
0
No votes

Dana of the hypnoavi
0
No votes

DF-alicous
1
DFaraday (7)
5%

Domdom
0
No votes

Elo of the yummy cakes
1
Dana (19)
5%

Enrico suave
5
Nikki908 (3), Dom (4), nijuukyugou (11), juliets (17), Bass_the_Clever (20)
23%

Epi aka Elo's other half
0
No votes

fingersplintsy of the lower case
0
No votes

Goatees Staytees
0
No votes

Hedgey
0
No votes

Julietsintheskywithcoffee
8
MovingPictures07 (8), Epignosis (9), Bullzeye (12), Enrique (13), Elohcin (14), sabie12 (15), zeek (18), Spacedaisy (22)
36%

Keys11tybillion
0
No votes

Long Con maker of smileys we love
0
No votes

Mademan.
0
No votes

Metalmarshmellow
0
No votes

Mister Rearangeyguy
1
Mister Rearranger (10)
5%

MP Sockface
1
Turnip Head (5)
5%

Nikki-Nikki
0
No votes

Ninjablooper
0
No votes

raywaS-Sawyer
1
S~V~S (16)
5%

Rox in a box
0
No votes

Sabie-baby
0
No votes

Snowy
0
No votes

Spacedaisy-lou
0
No votes

SVS-tasticcal.
0
No votes

Zeeky peeky.
0
No votes

Bea needs to quit with the nicknames already (Host/mod/non)
3
thellama73 (1), birdwithteeth11 (2), bea (6)

Canuck thread voted for TH.

THERE WERE 11 MISSING VOTES.

#669

zeek wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
zeek wrote:Ah, I thought you meant her reasoning for posting differently.

Spacedaisy wrote:But she could have just been changing her mind between the two posts, I don't know.
I asked her why she didn't copy and paste. She said it was too much of a bother, not that she'd changed her mind.
Thats kinda quibbly, to be honest. I will reserve judgment until we see how she flips, but if that is the entire basis of the case against her that is kinda weak. I hope you are right.
The problem is how it changed.

he's not right - you will see.

#670

I'm just saying, I could've still gotten lynched. Dana makes it sound like there was no resistance to a juliets lynch at all, which isn't true. I find Blooper's post/vote the most interesting because it came just around the time juliets was taking the spotlight.

#671

Enrique wrote:Well, not anymore... but you get me. Lots of non-voters this round.

Does Gotrees know we started? I saw he was on IRC earlier but he hasn't posted here yet.

I have no idea. I'm pretty sure he'd have been more active if he knew it had started so I'm assuming he just hasn't checked yet. I'll send him a text and tell him to get in here.

#672

According to my count, there were 15 missed votes. Your hosts are not very pleased.

There will be a penalty to everyone who missed the vote. Future missed votes from those individuals will incur other penalties. Don't think we aren't afraid to modkill half the people playing if it comes to that.

#673

zeek wrote:
S~V~S wrote:
zeek wrote:Ah, I thought you meant her reasoning for posting differently.

Spacedaisy wrote:But she could have just been changing her mind between the two posts, I don't know.
I asked her why she didn't copy and paste. She said it was too much of a bother, not that she'd changed her mind.
Thats kinda quibbly, to be honest. I will reserve judgment until we see how she flips, but if that is the entire basis of the case against her that is kinda weak. I hope you are right.
The problem is how it changed.

Still quibbly, IMO. I hope you are bad Juliets, but you sound mega sincere to me.

#674

Enrique wrote:I'm just saying, I could've still gotten lynched. Dana makes it sound like there was no resistance to a juliets lynch at all, which isn't true. I find Blooper's post/vote the most interesting because it came just around the time juliets was taking the spotlight.

I think there was some of the "Hey what about this person" type of resistance but not the "I disagree with this theory about Juliets" type. I definitely could have missed things though, because I mostly skimmed to catch up in time to vote. Eloh's one sentence post and Juliets vote really bugged me a lot, though.

#675

juliets wrote:
zeek wrote:The problem is how it changed.
he's not right - you will see.

If you come back civ, I apologise but I didn't make you change your wording. You made yourself look suspicious all on your own.

#676

That was Juliets vote as in Eloh's vote for Juliets, not Juliets' vote, just for clarification.

#677

changing wording is not a big deal. How often do you change your wording on things? It was totally innocent - dont try to absolve yourself.

#678

juliets wrote:changing wording is not a big deal. How often do you change your wording on things? It was totally innocent - dont try to absolve yourself.

We'll see.

#679

It's not just about wording. You flip flopped around me a lot, according to the popular reaction. Sorry juliets but that comes across really bad

#680

Well, I personally think juliets is going to flip bad, but I guess we'll see. If she doesn't, worst case, there are definitely some votes and players that will be worth examining. And I think it's odd that Made, or anyone else, actually tried arguing that the posts are the same. They are CLEARLY not.

Also, WTF with the non-voters? Seriously. That's insanely ridiculous and kind of suspicious to be honest. God only knows how many baddies are in those 15 voters. Why sign up if you're not going to play?

zeek wrote:
juliets wrote:
zeek wrote:The problem is how it changed.
he's not right - you will see.
If you come back civ, I apologise but I didn't make you change your wording. You made yourself look suspicious all on your own.

I agree with this. It wasn't a mere change of wording, it was a complete change of post content.

#681

Juliets can bring the guilt, but i have never seen her bring it quite like this. "Absolve" is a pretty strong word.

#682

Honestly, if 15 out of 31 players missed the D1 vote and I was hosting, I'd be half tempted to just modkill them all. That's insane.

#683

S~V~S wrote:Juliets can bring the guilt, but i have never seen her bring it quite like this. "Absolve" is a pretty strong word.

I will admit that her language makes me nervous, but I can't help that she made some really serious wording errors that made her look incredibly suspicious.

Do you have any opinions on players other than juliets, out of curiosity?

#684

S~V~S wrote:Juliets can bring the guilt, but i have never seen her bring it quite like this. "Absolve" is a pretty strong word.

Heavy, innit? It's not personal, it's suspicion in a game.

#685

Just keep telling yourself that that reworded post meant I was bad. Keep telling yourself.

#686

...Two Days Later....

Diggz(aka BDH) looks up frustratedly from his latop. "Stoopid Injuries! Stoopid Dharma Leauge! Now I can't even win against the guy who let the computer pick his team!!! Kittens!!!! Sweetie!!! Make me feel better!"

"Maaw," replies Penny.
"Meooooow," answers Clara.
.......

"Sweetie?" Diggz hops on IRC. "Has anyone seen Bea? She left two days ago to watch Dr Who with BWT."
"Nobody's seen or heard from Bea and BWT for days!" JC told him.
"We were just about get together to go find them," said MP.
"Diggz and Bea are married?" dana said thoughtfully.
"My team's winning and I didn't even do anything." teased Epi.
"Come watch my new episode of DHReviews!" DH plugs.
"Why am I in this post? What are the secrets? If it's an odd hour and the moon is aligned with Jupiter is there any way Bea will actually have anything of any sort of scientific fact in her post?" Appje starts to rev up.
"You guys! Shhhh!! You're not even playing this game." Scolds Nikki
froggy gives all nonplayers some german chocolate cake with no milk to shut them up.

Finally everyone arrives at the remains of BWT's house. The door is knocked down, rubble is everywhere and there are two piles of dust sitting on the couch while the tv plays this for no one:

Confused and hurt by the loss of such wonderful forum members, the TS members were looking for a reason to justify what had happened. And more importantly, they were looking for someone to blame. The accusations began to fly.

"My Big Sis and my Best Friend! It must be the stranger amongst us!" MP shouted.
"No way, it's probably you. You're too egar to accuse. You're hiding something." Rico Suave replied.
"Man....can't we just be chill and shit?" Made said rather calmly.
"I hope this wasn't because of our new stash." SVS mumbled to no one in particular.

The yelling and shouting continued until finally mob mentality took over and it was decided through group think that Juliet should die. Somehow TH found a rope. Elo found a knife. Snowy found BTW's ninja stars. Of course BTW has ninja stars. The crowd moved in closer on Juliet. And sought their bloody revenge.

Once the killing was done, the crowd's head began to clear. As it did they heard a strange woooshing noise as a blue telephone box appeared in the living room.

"Holy crap, it's real," muttered Bass.
"Why is there a phone box in the living room and why is it the wrong colour?" Keys asked.

Just as the crowd was thinking of going up to the box, the door creeked open and out walked a slightly older Scottsman looking around inquisitively.

"Right. You're all here. That saves a bit of time." He notices the two piles of dust regretfully. "They were found. I thought I had them tucked away safely enough but somehow they were found."

"Excuse me, what the hell is going on here?" Diggz asks angrily.

"I'm The Doctor. Bea and BWT were helping me to uncover a plot to destroy the universe. Someone has been traveling through space and time and undoing everything I've done. I have to find the culprit and stop this plan."
He looks over each person once, then twice."Wait. There are 30 of you. That's too many. Think Doctor. Think." He begins pacing the floor to try to figure out what is going on. Everyone looks on in stunned silence.

As he paces he notices the body of Juliets. "This is curious. Why didn't this body vaporize like Bea's and BTW's did?"
"ummm..." Rox started to say.
"I doubt you'll be much help. I am much more clever than you are! Just be quiet and let me think."
"Sir," splintsy started "we were so grief stricken over the loss of Bea and BTW that um...we did that. I'm not quite sure how it happened, it just did."

The Doctor seemed to pay them no attention as he leaned over the body and produced a note. He read it and shoved it into his pocket. The Doctor pulled out his sonic srewdriver and scanned the crowd. "This can't be right." He shakes it and points it at the crowd again. His eyes narrow in on splintsy. "You say, you did this?"

"Well, it all happened so fast. First we were trying to figure out who hurt Bea and BTW. Next thing we know someone has a knife and ninja stars and a gun and then we all piled in and when it was over Juliets was dead."

"Fools! Why didn't you wait for me? I was hot on their trail. You lot are coming with me."

"Wait? Where are you taking us? How are we all going to fit in there? I have to be back to Uni soon." Bullz tells The Doctor.

"Just get in now! It's a time machine, once this is straightened out you'll be back in time for Uni." He replies as he holds the door waving everyone inside. As they enter one by one, each person gasps at the site before them. "It's bigger on the inside." Goatees mutters. The Doctor looks annoyed.

"Right, I will go slowly so your small brains can follow. I found this note on Juliet's body." He begins to read aloud:

Doctor,

By now you have discovered that I found your spies and have dealt with them. I've also found your companions and hidden some spies in the mix as well. I've truly mixed everything up. I would tell you to give up, but I know you won't. Good luck trying to figure out who is a friend and who is working for us. Send a pm to both hosts with a picture of something doctor who related that also includes kitties for the chance to win a fabulous prize for literacy. I had her killed first because I know how to strike your heart deep. I know you'll come chasing after us to your own demise so I've created a game. Here is a list of planets. There will be items that can hurt or help your cause on them. Choose your destination wisely.

The Valeyard.

The Doctor folds the note back up and puts it in his pocket. "The Valeyard. I've dreaded this day. It figures he is behind this all. He would know all the people I've most loved and steal them from me. Choose a planet you lot. I have to begin to figure out the enemy among us."

The TARDIS begins to wooosh again and flicker in and out of sight while Diggz stares on.

"Football sucks, my sweetie is dead, and I don't get to go on the TARDIS.

WORST. DAY. EVER!! "

Julets is dead. She was RIVER SONG.

You now have TILL 10 PM EST to choose a destination and do anything else you need to do. Please send all PM's to both hosts. If you choose not to perform a night action, send us a PM stating so. If we don't have a PM we will assume it's a missed PM and mayormaynot punish accordingly. I'm sorry for the floating time. We're working with both of our weird schedules to try to get something more consistent. I promise it'll balance out soon!!

There were 11 missing votes in a game of 31 players. That's almost half!!! This is UNACCEPTABLE.

If you missed this vote you must make 5 on topic posts between the beginning of night and the end of this next day phase. Please number your on topic posts at the end of each post. You must also apologize to JC for missing the vote and tell her how awesome she is. That post does not count toward your 5 on topic posts. If missed votes continue to be a problem we will punish MORE severely up to and including modkilling.

linki with MP - was it 15? I counted 11 missing with canuck's thread vote? But I know maths is not my strong suit and I've been more worried with getting stuff to you guys than updating the ss right now...

#687

Aww fuck.

#688

At this stage, not really, Alex. Zeek asked me this same question, although slightly more confrontationally. I am trying to step back a bit from my tunnelvision style, and 3 games + end of month (+end of fiscal year) at work has me stretched thinner than I might like. I hope to start tunnelling this weekend

Linki~ I did not mean that in a negative way, Zeek. Juliets is formidable.

Linki, well that sucks.

#689

Well, I didn't count 15, I was going based on what BWT said. If it's 11, that still sucks.

RIP juliets, sorry it went down this way.

#690

S~V~S wrote:At this stage, not really, Alex. Zeek asked me this same question, although slightly more confrontationally. I am trying to step back a bit from my tunnelvision style, and 3 games + end of month (+end of fiscal year) at work has me stretched thinner than I might like. I hope to start tunnelling this weekend

Linki~ I did not mean that in a negative way, Zeek. Juliets is formidable.

Linki, well that sucks.

Thanks for responding, that makes a lot of sense. I just haven't seen your usual self yet which was making me wonder what's on your mind.

#691

MovingPictures07 wrote:Honestly, if 15 out of 31 players missed the D1 vote and I was hosting, I'd be half tempted to just modkill them all. That's insane.

DF and MR both for themselves, Roxy randomized, a few drive-bys. Yeah not a great round for votes.

As far as I can tell the following players didn't vote:

BR
Boogs
splints
Gotrees
Hedge
keys
LC
Made
MM
rey
Snow Dog

So that's 11, not 15. MM and Hedge just hardly missed it, Gotrees hasn't been around at all, can't remember seeing rey either? Splints and Keys at least we know are busy. Surprised Made didn't vote, really, he's been talking a fair bit.

linki:

RIP juliets. Honestly thought we'd get a Day 1 baddie this time.

#692

I wonder: Baddies could have taken three strategies here, really, (1) avoided the juliets lynch and voted elsewhere, (2) bandwagoned onto the juliets lynch, or (3) missed the vote.

Of (2), Elo, sabie, and Bullz's votes struck me as most suspicious.

Of (1) and (3), I'm not sure yet. Requires further analysis. But I have my eye on a few players, that's for sure.

Linki with Enrique: Thanks for clarifying and making the list of the 11. I was about to do it myself, but you just saved me like a minute or two.

#693

So now that you know they were not trying to save juliets, what do you make of those people who voted you, Enrique?

#694

Well...

So can anyone give me some insight on these planets?

I have some thoughts on today, but I want to let them percolate a bit before I say anything.

#695

Spacedaisy wrote:Well...

So can anyone give me some insight on these planets?

I have some thoughts on today, but I want to let them percolate a bit before I say anything.

Hopefully this helps: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_planets

#696

OFFICIAL CLARIFICATION

The Night 1 period will NOT be extended for an extra hour. It will end at the the time stated in the night poll (so a bit after 9 EST). I will be adding an extra 2 hours to the Day 2 poll so that way the ends of Days/Nights work better with my schedule. Thank you for your cooperation, and we now return you to your regularly scheduled bloodbath.

#697

Enrique wrote: Surprised Made didn't vote, really, he's been talking a fair bit.

Made is currently at homecoming right now, but I thought he voted before he left? He has been acting a little bit odd. Not as much like his normal self, can you see it Enri? I feel like he's being more careful than he has been in the past two games, but it still might be too soon to tell.

#698

Dana wrote:
Enrique wrote: Surprised Made didn't vote, really, he's been talking a fair bit.
Made is currently at homecoming right now, but I thought he voted before he left? He has been acting a little bit odd. Not as much like his normal self, can you see it Enri? I feel like he's being more careful than he has been in the past two games, but it still might be too soon to tell.

I had this impression too, I'm definitely watching him particularly closely. If juliets did flip bad, I was going to gun after Made, but now that she hasn't, I'm not totally sure about him.

#699

Votes Alzarius~ Adric was from there and he was awesome

#700

I'm going to bed. I'll look at the fallout from this tomorrow.

Clearly the Valeyard is a role in this game. He is the evil version of the Doctor, quite literally.

In regard to the night poll, it may effect the game so here's some links. I'll look at these closer tomorrow as well but I recall Alzarius having some connection to healing but I can't remember what.

Alfava Metraxis has a fucking army of Weeping Angels on so lets avoid that option.

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Alfava_Metraxis
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Arkheon
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Alzarius
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Azure

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