The Syndicate

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:39 am I remembered to look through Spiny Creature's posts to see what I can glean.

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:54 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:55 am

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:26 am @Evenstar

so far you are an easy townread to me (actually the easiest), which makes me nervous only because I don't think you are easy to read in general. and in finals when you were town you were a townread, yes, but not an easy or pure one, just like a "I think eva is always like this and it's not scummy" one.

that said, the effortlessness of your savage-tone posting, and the fact that your conversation with Drogo, while meaningless shitposting, actually led you to have a read on him by the end, feels like v easytown to me.

should I be nervous about this read y or y not? :P

Yeah, you should be nervous. You're probably reading "not stressed out by champs" as "town" here: as Pawn would tell you, I'm never certain anything D1.

Keep watching me; generally I slip somewhere in my tapdancing by D3/4 if I'm scum. (Like in WC1 with my hotdogs thing.)

thanks for reply.

@PawnLelouch (hopefully that has no spaces, if it does i give up on tagging) not to repeat d1 of finals, but what's your read on Eva rn? I see that you are in more heat than she is but I am far from caught up and left before you showed up at all.

This exchange indicates that Spinyboo and Evenstar were not civilian partners, as once assumed after Day 2.

....I have had a thought. Janitors get the flips of their kills right? What if Texas was spinyboo's mason??

Lynch evenstar yall.

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:26 am Evenstar

so far you are an easy townread to me (actually the easiest), which makes me nervous only because I don't think you are easy to read in general. and in finals when you were town you were a townread, yes, but not an easy or pure one, just like a "I think eva is always like this and it's not scummy" one.

that said, the effortlessness of your savage-tone posting, and the fact that your conversation with Drogo, while meaningless shitposting, actually led you to have a read on him by the end, feels like v easytown to me.

should I be nervous about this read y or y not? :P

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 pm Lexi, the only thing you've done this game is insist I'm scum. When I flip town what will you do? I'm legitimately concerned for what it will do to your mental and emotional health.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:49 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:48 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:46 pm

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:44 pm I actually think you are town because you seem so confident in actually believing what you're saying. But it's wrong and I implore you to do something useful.

More deflecting.

Deflecting from what? Give me something to answer.

She won't. Why are you still engaging her case if you feel it has no backing behind it?

I just want to get her to see some modicum of reason and/or get her to do something productive for the game. If she continues to refuse, she's probably scum. I had reason to think you two weren't actually scum together though.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:53 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:49 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:39 am I remembered to look through Spiny Creature's posts to see what I can glean.

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:54 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:55 am

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:26 am @Evenstar

so far you are an easy townread to me (actually the easiest), which makes me nervous only because I don't think you are easy to read in general. and in finals when you were town you were a townread, yes, but not an easy or pure one, just like a "I think eva is always like this and it's not scummy" one.

that said, the effortlessness of your savage-tone posting, and the fact that your conversation with Drogo, while meaningless shitposting, actually led you to have a read on him by the end, feels like v easytown to me.

should I be nervous about this read y or y not? :P

Yeah, you should be nervous. You're probably reading "not stressed out by champs" as "town" here: as Pawn would tell you, I'm never certain anything D1.

Keep watching me; generally I slip somewhere in my tapdancing by D3/4 if I'm scum. (Like in WC1 with my hotdogs thing.)

thanks for reply.

@PawnLelouch (hopefully that has no spaces, if it does i give up on tagging) not to repeat d1 of finals, but what's your read on Eva rn? I see that you are in more heat than she is but I am far from caught up and left before you showed up at all.

This exchange indicates that Spinyboo and Evenstar were not civilian partners, as once assumed after Day 2.

....I have had a thought. Janitors get the flips of their kills right? What if Texas was spinyboo's mason??

Lynch evenstar yall.

Let's pursue this then, since there is confirmation regarding the janitor.

The proposal is that TexasCloverleaf (???) had BTSC with Spinyboo.

Unfortunately, Spinyboo made no mention of TexasCloverleaf that I can see. The latter likewise never said anything about Spinyboo. Zero interaction from the thread.

On the other hand, Spiny's seventh post was this one:

Spiny Creature wrote: ↑Sun Oct 27, 2019 6:26 am Evenstar

so far you are an easy townread to me (actually the easiest), which makes me nervous only because I don't think you are easy to read in general. and in finals when you were town you were a townread, yes, but not an easy or pure one, just like a "I think eva is always like this and it's not scummy" one.

that said, the effortlessness of your savage-tone posting, and the fact that your conversation with Drogo, while meaningless shitposting, actually led you to have a read on him by the end, feels like v easytown to me.

should I be nervous about this read y or y not? :P

That playful tone at the end doesn't seem to appear anywhere else in Spiny's posts. boo didn't mention Evenstar at all (and why would he?).

So for nutella's theory to hold water, these things have to have transpired:

1. Spiny uses her 7th post to call Evenstar (not Texas) her "easiest" civilian despite having BTSC with TexasCloverleaf.
2. Evenstar calls Dragomir (her godfather) bad.
3. TexasCloverleaf (Spiny's real partner) votes Evenstar (the person Spiny just said was her best friend).
4. Without the help of the role cop, the mafia just so happen to kill to kill the BTSC partner of the one who just called Evenstar best friend.
5. boo gets lynched Day 2 ( ) and is shown to have BTSC with one other person.
6. JJJ screws up the role reveal, and must post it for everyone.
7. Evenstar is free to act like Spinyboo's partner.

Do I have that right?



I'm going to go with

Spoiler: show

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:27 am That makes no sense lmao. Read what I've said, it's occam's razor.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:53 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:49 pm

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:48 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:46 pm

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:45 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:44 pm I actually think you are town because you seem so confident in actually believing what you're saying. But it's wrong and I implore you to do something useful.

More deflecting.

Deflecting from what? Give me something to answer.

She won't. Why are you still engaging her case if you feel it has no backing behind it?

I just want to get her to see some modicum of reason and/or get her to do something productive for the game. If she continues to refuse, she's probably scum. I had reason to think you two weren't actually scum together though.

I want everyone to see this so I'll tag everyone.

Mere posts after calling me town, now it's conditional on me finding them town. If I dont find them town, theyll think I'm scum.

Hilarious backtrack from a position they accidentally put themselves in and can't find their way out of.

Further, they disconnnected Eva and I. Wanna know why? If Eva flips town and is lynched today, Nutella plans to try and lynch me tomorrow because "one of us is scum but not both guess I got the wrong one whoops"

classic scum chaining lynches.

This is the nail in the coffin. Everyone needs to see this backpedal into flail.

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Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 pm

If you're so fucking town, and you think I'm town and wrong... go find scum and convince others (and maybe me) they're scum. Ignore me if I'm town.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 pm Lexi, the only thing you've done this game is insist I'm scum. When I flip town what will you do? I'm legitimately concerned for what it will do to your mental and emotional health.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 pm Lexi, the only thing you've done this game is insist I'm scum. When I flip town what will you do? I'm legitimately concerned for what it will do to your mental and emotional health.

LMFAO

If you flip town I will offer myself to to town to be lynched, probably. Which is fine, I accept that consequence because you're not town.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:57 pm

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 pm

If you're so fucking town, and you think I'm town and wrong... go find scum and convince others (and maybe me) they're scum. Ignore me if I'm town.

Boy, that's rich.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:00 pm

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 pm Lexi, the only thing you've done this game is insist I'm scum. When I flip town what will you do? I'm legitimately concerned for what it will do to your mental and emotional health.

LMFAO

If you flip town I will offer myself to to town to be lynched, probably. Which is fine, I accept that consequence because you're not town.

That's not a good answer but ok. Enjoy chaining mislynches.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:00 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:57 pm

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 pm

If you're so fucking town, and you think I'm town and wrong... go find scum and convince others (and maybe me) they're scum. Ignore me if I'm town.

Boy, that's rich.

Just because I don't post walls of empty points and shit that mean literally nothing doesn't mean I'm not convincing people or hunting scum.

You think I got 4th in the MU champs because what I'm pretty?

I'm not fucking stupid, stop pretending you're better than me and consider the intention behind Nutella's actions.

Or don't and continue to be superior jackoffs like everyone who apparently knows each other on this site.

Why even invite people for an invitational game if your goal is to disparage other playstyles again?

Fucking jerks

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:00 pm Love when townies deliberately play anti-town.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:02 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:00 pm

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 pm Lexi, the only thing you've done this game is insist I'm scum. When I flip town what will you do? I'm legitimately concerned for what it will do to your mental and emotional health.

LMFAO

If you flip town I will offer myself to to town to be lynched, probably. Which is fine, I accept that consequence because you're not town.

That's not a good answer but ok. Enjoy chaining mislynches.

Two things

One, that's not what this term means. YOU are possibly chaining mislynches when you say Eva and I aren't scum together and want to lynch us both. I am risking my life for yours.

Two, OH HEY AM I TOWN AGAIN? I THOUGHT I WAS SCUM IF I DIDN"T FIND YOU TOWN

HAVE I BECOME TOWN AGAIN CAUSE YOU CAN'T TALK YOUR WAY FROM IT?

GONNANIGHT KILL ME TONIGHT?

COME ON

DO IT

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:03 pm

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:00 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:57 pm

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 pm

If you're so fucking town, and you think I'm town and wrong... go find scum and convince others (and maybe me) they're scum. Ignore me if I'm town.

Boy, that's rich.

Just because I don't post walls of empty points and shit that mean literally nothing doesn't mean I'm not convincing people or hunting scum.

You think I got 4th in the MU champs because what I'm pretty?

I'm not fucking stupid, stop pretending you're better than me and consider the intention behind Nutella's actions.

Or don't and continue to be superior jackoffs like everyone who apparently knows each other on this site.

Why even invite people for an invitational game if your goal is to disparage other playstyles again?

Fucking jerks

I don't mean to insult you personally or disparage your playstyle. I respect players who make strong gut reads like that. But I respect them more when they are willing to reconsider in the face of more evidence. In this case you are wrong about me. There is no scum intention behind my "actions" (whatever you're even referring to there). I want to play with people who have different play styles. You just happen to be incorrect, and it would be nice if you could admit that posssibility.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:00 pm Love when townies deliberately play anti-town.

Alright fuck you.

This is now out of game personal shit.

Just because people don't play how you fucking think they should

does not make them anti-town

maybe your stale ass meta is fucking garbage

and there are better players than you

consider this before you take the arrogant stance that my playstyle is anti-town

because I promise you I win a whole lot more than I lose playing just like this

Maybe not the lurking on the middle days. I don't tend to like lurking

but this game was bullshit and hard and my life was busy

so stop with your elitism nonsense you are not better than me your style is not better than mine and I am not playing anti-town

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:05 pm The problem, LLD, is you are framing things in such a way that anything nutella does is coming from a mafia member. She has no out. The only way I'll buy what you're selling is if you are shown to be the alignment checker.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:07 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:05 pm The problem, LLD, is you are framing things in such a way that anything nutella does is coming from a mafia member. She has no out. The only way I'll buy what you're selling is if you are shown to be the alignment checker.

I don't care to give her an out?

She should die today. That's the out.

Why the fuck do I need to give someone who is scum an out

Instead, lynch them with me.

I don't care what Nutella thinks. I want you to read what I am saying and agree or disagree.

And really I don't know how you can look at her posts and go "oh that's town".

You wanna feel bad for her cause I'm not giving her a chance? Fine go feel bad for her

but while you're doing that?

kindly put your vote on ehr wagon so I can kill her and we can actually win this game as town

thanks

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:58 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:50 pm Lexi, the only thing you've done this game is insist I'm scum. When I flip town what will you do? I'm legitimately concerned for what it will do to your mental and emotional health.

LMFAO

If you flip town I will offer myself to to town to be lynched, probably. Which is fine, I accept that consequence because you're not town.

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:06 pm

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:00 pm Love when townies deliberately play anti-town.

Alright fuck you.

This is now out of game personal shit.

Just because people don't play how you fucking think they should

does not make them anti-town

maybe your stale ass meta is fucking garbage

and there are better players than you

consider this before you take the arrogant stance that my playstyle is anti-town

because I promise you I win a whole lot more than I lose playing just like this

Maybe not the lurking on the middle days. I don't tend to like lurking

but this game was bullshit and hard and my life was busy

so stop with your elitism nonsense you are not better than me your style is not better than mine and I am not playing anti-town

I'm not trying to be elitist at all. You're just wrong.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:09 pm What I'm saying, LLD, is that I could do what you're doing to nutella to anybody here. I can twist anything anybody says or does into coming from a mafia mindset.

Obviously, that wouldn't be helpful.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:07 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:05 pm The problem, LLD, is you are framing things in such a way that anything nutella does is coming from a mafia member. She has no out. The only way I'll buy what you're selling is if you are shown to be the alignment checker.

I don't care to give her an out?

She should die today. That's the out.

Why the fuck do I need to give someone who is scum an out

Instead, lynch them with me.

I don't care what Nutella thinks. I want you to read what I am saying and agree or disagree.

And really I don't know how you can look at her posts and go "oh that's town".

You wanna feel bad for her cause I'm not giving her a chance? Fine go feel bad for her

but while you're doing that?

kindly put your vote on ehr wagon so I can kill her and we can actually win this game as town

thanks

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:13 pm

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:07 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:05 pm The problem, LLD, is you are framing things in such a way that anything nutella does is coming from a mafia member. She has no out. The only way I'll buy what you're selling is if you are shown to be the alignment checker.

I don't care to give her an out?

She should die today. That's the out.

Why the fuck do I need to give someone who is scum an out

Instead, lynch them with me.

I don't care what Nutella thinks. I want you to read what I am saying and agree or disagree.

And really I don't know how you can look at her posts and go "oh that's town".

You wanna feel bad for her cause I'm not giving her a chance? Fine go feel bad for her

but while you're doing that?

kindly put your vote on ehr wagon so I can kill her and we can actually win this game as town

thanks

You're going to have to write the wallpost.

I know, it sucks. But you're the one who told me back in finals that you've gotta sell.

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:18 pm How much time in day is there left?

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:17 pm MR: Eva not wanting to lynch me but wanting me dead is anti-town

LLD: no it's not, she knows you'll just make the same points over and over again blah blah blah blah it's perfectly townie

*LLD makes the same points over and over again about nutella*

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:19 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:17 pm MR: Eva not wanting to lynch me but wanting me dead is anti-town

LLD: no it's not, she knows you'll just make the same points over and over again blah blah blah blah it's perfectly townie

*LLD makes the same points over and over again about nutella*

It's not the same.

She thinks you are scum and that's consistent. Her method of seeing you DEAD changes.

Nutella has called me TOWN and SCUM multiple times in the past few pages.

Do you see the fucking difference or are you just here to troll me and be an asshole

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:20 pm

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:19 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:17 pm MR: Eva not wanting to lynch me but wanting me dead is anti-town

LLD: no it's not, she knows you'll just make the same points over and over again blah blah blah blah it's perfectly townie

*LLD makes the same points over and over again about nutella*

It's not the same.

She thinks you are scum and that's consistent. Her method of seeing you DEAD changes.

Nutella has called me TOWN and SCUM multiple times in the past few pages.

Do you see the fucking difference or are you just here to troll me and be an asshole

The latter.

You could definitely be right on nutella. But please shush now?

112 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:04 pm [VOTE: Evenstar] aubergine

Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:19 pm

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:17 pm MR: Eva not wanting to lynch me but wanting me dead is anti-town

LLD: no it's not, she knows you'll just make the same points over and over again blah blah blah blah it's perfectly townie

*LLD makes the same points over and over again about nutella*

It's not the same.

She thinks you are scum and that's consistent. Her method of seeing you DEAD changes.

Nutella has called me TOWN and SCUM multiple times in the past few pages.

Do you see the fucking difference or are you just here to troll me and be an asshole

Evenstar wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:22 pm @Lady LambdaDelta

Take a step back.

I know, it's infuriating. But the site meta here is just like this, and you're harming your own case now.

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:40 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:36 pm I'm so fucking annoyed yet so relieved that people are back. But seriously, did you guys really just send us inactive players? WTF.

We lynched iaafr yesterday in case ya’ll got lonely.

Jack, how do you know you lynched iaafr? Were you allowed to put your final votes in the thread instead of PMing them?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 5:30 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:40 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 7:36 pm I'm so fucking annoyed yet so relieved that people are back. But seriously, did you guys really just send us inactive players? WTF.

We lynched iaafr yesterday in case ya’ll got lonely.

Jack, how do you know you lynched iaafr? Were you allowed to put your final votes in the thread instead of PMing them?

Our votes were public on the last day, at least at DL3.

sprityo wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:17 am SERIOUSLY, 13 PAGES?!!! it’s been 12 hours and I wanted to do other things today but nevermind, let’s see what I’ve missed