The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:04 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:54 am Seriously though.

I’d rather poop a bicycle than ISO Rondo.

this made me giggle like a school girl

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:04 am**

Did scum really set themselves up in a triangle for me to knock over?

That idea feels too easy.

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:04 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:59 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:59 amMorning
Afternoon

evening

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:05 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:04 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:54 am Seriously though.

I’d rather poop a bicycle than ISO Rondo.
this made me giggle like a school girl

are you not?

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:06 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:05 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:04 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:54 am Seriously though.

I’d rather poop a bicycle than ISO Rondo.
this made me giggle like a school girl
are you not?

oh no, im caught

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:07 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:06 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:05 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:04 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:54 am Seriously though.

I’d rather poop a bicycle than ISO Rondo.
this made me giggle like a school girl
are you not?
oh no, im caught

Can confirm Rondo is a schoolgirl.

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:07 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:07 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:06 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:05 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:04 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:54 am Seriously though.

I’d rather poop a bicycle than ISO Rondo.
this made me giggle like a school girl
are you not?
oh no, im caught
Can confirm Rondo is a schoolgirl.

I believe your confirmation.

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:17 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:13 pm I’d rather poop a bicycle than fully read Rondo’s ISO right now

Which I guess could be a tactical strategy

^

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:18 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:01 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:34 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:32 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:30 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:18 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:17 am i will now take questions
Tell me please how do you read Rondo and why
closer to neutral than anything but i've been shifting around. i had him as slightly town before i left the thread yesterday and went to sleep. part of me feels that if the town's best guess is rondo we're probably not winning this game. whether that should have any effect on how i read him idk.

to be honest i feel like my heart thinks he's town and that i'm being somewhat peer-pressured into thinking he's wolfier than he actually is to me.

i think what i called abrasiveness in him is usually a wolf trait but i don't think it's wolfy here. not sure i can really elaborate on that, but just that he's been very consistently posting with attitude in every post i've read makes me like him more somehow. like it doesn't feel like an act.

as far as solvey stuff from rondo, i don't really have anything in mind, but i've melded with some posts and insights iirc and he seems to be actually contributing better than others?

like i'm not saying he can't be wolf but i don't understand fully why he's your first choice
A very thoroughly-winded read of Rondo. Wagons were 3-3-5 Wilgy-Rondo-MR
Based on that, it is even more likely Rondo is a potential teammate.
no scotty please. I have a cop check from wiggly saying I am good. Trust in me
If probably place less interest in mafia players town reading others, but I can’t rule you out.

I don’t know Wilgy is good. Do you?
Yeah I know, Im gonna follow your say but I would prefer you believe I am good

You know Wilgy is good? Is that your final answer?

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:19 am**

honestly though i don't see why rondo can be scum exactly, his posts felt genuine to me and agendaless, i think his posts are more spontaneous than practiced, unless i'm pocketed he should be clearly town here

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:19 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:18 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:01 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:34 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:32 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:30 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:18 am
Tell me please how do you read Rondo and why
closer to neutral than anything but i've been shifting around. i had him as slightly town before i left the thread yesterday and went to sleep. part of me feels that if the town's best guess is rondo we're probably not winning this game. whether that should have any effect on how i read him idk.

to be honest i feel like my heart thinks he's town and that i'm being somewhat peer-pressured into thinking he's wolfier than he actually is to me.

i think what i called abrasiveness in him is usually a wolf trait but i don't think it's wolfy here. not sure i can really elaborate on that, but just that he's been very consistently posting with attitude in every post i've read makes me like him more somehow. like it doesn't feel like an act.

as far as solvey stuff from rondo, i don't really have anything in mind, but i've melded with some posts and insights iirc and he seems to be actually contributing better than others?

like i'm not saying he can't be wolf but i don't understand fully why he's your first choice
A very thoroughly-winded read of Rondo. Wagons were 3-3-5 Wilgy-Rondo-MR
Based on that, it is even more likely Rondo is a potential teammate.
no scotty please. I have a cop check from wiggly saying I am good. Trust in me
If probably place less interest in mafia players town reading others, but I can’t rule you out.

I don’t know Wilgy is good. Do you?
Yeah I know, Im gonna follow your say but I would prefer you believe I am good
You know Wilgy is good? Is that your final answer?

woah lets not go that far. I know I am good

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:19 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:07 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:06 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:05 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:04 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:54 am Seriously though.

I’d rather poop a bicycle than ISO Rondo.
this made me giggle like a school girl
are you not?
oh no, im caught
Can confirm Rondo is a schoolgirl.

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:07 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:07 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:06 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:05 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:04 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:54 am Seriously though.

I’d rather poop a bicycle than ISO Rondo.
this made me giggle like a school girl
are you not?
oh no, im caught
Can confirm Rondo is a schoolgirl.
I believe your confirmation.

tee hee hee

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:22 am**

BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:38 pm me leading votes is super suspect

oh my god. it's clearly not. but who do you sus on your wagon, the one that was there before i mean

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:22 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:17 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 3:13 pm I’d rather poop a bicycle than fully read Rondo’s ISO right now

Which I guess could be a tactical strategy
^

hehehehe

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:22 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:09 pm 112/Rondo/TSP should be primary resolution as I think Poison is town

thanks, i think it should be a better option honestly

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:23 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:19 am honestly though i don't see why rondo can be scum exactly, his posts felt genuine to me and agendaless, i think his posts are more spontaneous than practiced, unless i'm pocketed he should be clearly town here

I thought you were trying to pocket me D3 and put my tinfoil on for D4. but I did have an agenda to not be town read day 1 now my agenda is to help Scotty win the game

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:24 am**

Rondo's school girl giggles can be heard across the world now.

@RondoDimBuckle what do you think of the current situation?

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:26 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:23 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:19 am honestly though i don't see why rondo can be scum exactly, his posts felt genuine to me and agendaless, i think his posts are more spontaneous than practiced, unless i'm pocketed he should be clearly town here
I thought you were trying to pocket me D3 and put my tinfoil on for D4. but I did have an agenda to not be town read day 1 now my agenda is to help Scotty win the game

i see. for a second i was confused what day is it today but why didn't you want to get TRed day 1 ?

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:27 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:20 pm Did I hear someone say party check?

yes. i claimed you didn't invite me to your party. i am sad.

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:29 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:24 am Rondo's school girl giggles can be heard across the world now.

@RondoDimBuckle what do you think of the current situation?

That MR flipping was great because we finally have some information to go off of. Towns demotivation of hitting green after green is abated a little and now we can use the previous days information to root out more scum. I think Syn|Bo/112 are good options to start with. Made I lean town with MK trying to throw him to the noose and Scotty/Ender are in full solving mode so we are on our way to have some good results in future lynches/night actions

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:35 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:13 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:44 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:24 pm Seriously though someone tell me what the deal is with poisons claim
What's her claim?
Why are you asking me as if you aren't quoting me asking the same question lolol

lmaooooo

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:14 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:40 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:24 pm Seriously though someone tell me what the deal is with poisons claim
At least one of 112, rondo and tsp are a different alignment from poison.
Right but how did we get there

Did she check them all at the same time, at different times, how does her role work

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME Basically I am allowed to choose 3 players from the living players' list who aren't host confirmed and the host would tell me if they belong to the same alignment as me or not. I got the result that they do not. The host won't mention anything about the players particularly. And this is one-shot action.

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:36 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:29 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:24 am Rondo's school girl giggles can be heard across the world now.

@RondoDimBuckle what do you think of the current situation?
That MR flipping was great because we finally have some information to go off of. Towns demotivation of hitting green after green is abated a little and now we can use the previous days information to root out more scum. I think Syn|Bo/112 are good options to start with. Made I lean town with MK trying to throw him to the noose and Scotty/Ender are in full solving mode so we are on our way to have some good results in future lynches/night actions

what would you do if you see you are the leading wagon 30 mins before EOD?

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:38 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:36 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:29 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:24 am Rondo's school girl giggles can be heard across the world now.

@RondoDimBuckle what do you think of the current situation?
That MR flipping was great because we finally have some information to go off of. Towns demotivation of hitting green after green is abated a little and now we can use the previous days information to root out more scum. I think Syn|Bo/112 are good options to start with. Made I lean town with MK trying to throw him to the noose and Scotty/Ender are in full solving mode so we are on our way to have some good results in future lynches/night actions
what would you do if you see you are the leading wagon 30 mins before EOD?

point out again wiggly has cop checked me green and its a suboptimal axe as Alison said.

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:41 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:29 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 1:49 pm I think that poison is townie on play and mech claims

Sig claims mech that tsp town

So 112 vs rondo

If rondo is mafia wilgy is mafia too

Soo. Hmm.
wait, yes, If I am mafia Wiggly is, but if wiggly is mafia I am not

although, s!wigly might call you t!rondo just for memes tho

either way i don't think wilgy/rondo gets resolved by each other honestly

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:42 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:36 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:35 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:27 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:57 pm Rondo and Tutuu are slots I'm considering re-evaluating. Alison pushed them IIRC.

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:48 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:45 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:43 pm Rondo has been obvious mafia since day one.
I beg to differ.
Beg all you want, doesn't change anything.
These slots have been content to ignore me because I was digging my own grave. But now I am on Bo they are pushing me pretty hard, does Uri/Ruri/Bo-Syn have equity?
Out yourself more pls
Tunnel me more pls

this is town wtf is wrong with people?

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:44 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:42 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:36 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:35 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:27 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:57 pm Rondo and Tutuu are slots I'm considering re-evaluating. Alison pushed them IIRC.

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:48 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:45 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:43 pm Rondo has been obvious mafia since day one.
I beg to differ.
Beg all you want, doesn't change anything.
These slots have been content to ignore me because I was digging my own grave. But now I am on Bo they are pushing me pretty hard, does Uri/Ruri/Bo-Syn have equity?
Out yourself more pls
Tunnel me more pls
this is town wtf is wrong with people?

any specific part of it town?

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:45 am**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:23 pm Yeah at this point.

Yeet Bo, Tutuu, or I guess 112. Don't really know the case on 112, but I won't weep about it.

We could yeet Sig too. That'd be funny.

i think we are in a funnier situation already with half the player's list slanking and more town flips. let's not just vote on a whim

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:47 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:44 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:42 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:36 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:35 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:27 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:57 pm Rondo and Tutuu are slots I'm considering re-evaluating. Alison pushed them IIRC.

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:48 pm
Poison wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:45 pm

I beg to differ.
Beg all you want, doesn't change anything.
These slots have been content to ignore me because I was digging my own grave. But now I am on Bo they are pushing me pretty hard, does Uri/Ruri/Bo-Syn have equity?
Out yourself more pls
Tunnel me more pls
this is town wtf is wrong with people?
any specific part of it town?

yeah. given that you are one of the players from my night action, unless you are confident with yourself you wouldn't be poking around people to poke you back, plus i find you towny because you just give me the vibes from my early town games in my homesite.

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:50 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:44 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:42 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:36 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:35 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:27 pm
Ruri wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:57 pm Rondo and Tutuu are slots I'm considering re-evaluating. Alison pushed them IIRC.

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 12:48 pm

Beg all you want, doesn't change anything.
These slots have been content to ignore me because I was digging my own grave. But now I am on Bo they are pushing me pretty hard, does Uri/Ruri/Bo-Syn have equity?
Out yourself more pls
Tunnel me more pls
this is town wtf is wrong with people?
any specific part of it town?
yeah. given that you are one of the players from my night action, unless you are confident with yourself you wouldn't be poking around people to poke you back, plus i find you towny because you just give me the vibes from my early town games in my homesite.

oh ask @EnderWiggin I AM full of myself. But I appreciate the read

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:55 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:57 am Rondo is only ever on the table if Wilgy is red.

i agree tbh

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:56 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:50 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:34 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:32 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:30 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:18 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:17 am i will now take questions
Tell me please how do you read Rondo and why
closer to neutral than anything but i've been shifting around. i had him as slightly town before i left the thread yesterday and went to sleep. part of me feels that if the town's best guess is rondo we're probably not winning this game. whether that should have any effect on how i read him idk.

to be honest i feel like my heart thinks he's town and that i'm being somewhat peer-pressured into thinking he's wolfier than he actually is to me.

i think what i called abrasiveness in him is usually a wolf trait but i don't think it's wolfy here. not sure i can really elaborate on that, but just that he's been very consistently posting with attitude in every post i've read makes me like him more somehow. like it doesn't feel like an act.

as far as solvey stuff from rondo, i don't really have anything in mind, but i've melded with some posts and insights iirc and he seems to be actually contributing better than others?

like i'm not saying he can't be wolf but i don't understand fully why he's your first choice
A very thoroughly-winded read of Rondo. Wagons were 3-3-5 Wilgy-Rondo-MR
Based on that, it is even more likely Rondo is a potential teammate.
no scotty please. I have a cop check from wiggly saying I am good. Trust in me
If probably place less interest in mafia players town reading others, but I can’t rule you out.

I don’t know Wilgy is good. Do you?
If 112 flips red we turbo Wilgy btw btw btw.

explain this to me

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:58 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:42 am I remember having a convo with 112 (in like…day 2???…) where I didn’t believe her progression of suspicion in D1, and her response was something along the lines of ‘as a wolf, I make sure my progressions make sense and are logically sound’.
So besides the fact that she never gave any reasons for her surface scum read of MR, she systematically begins to respond after voting him in the wagon and calls him as town lean. She then uses this to justify looking elsewhere as his wagon formed. When it became between Bo and MR, she was more inclined to vote Bo, more because Mr was now a townread. That progression made sense. Somewhere along the line she vanity wagon’d onto falcon tho. So…if she had kept it on Bo it would look even better for Bo, but since she didn’t, it’s a worse look for even Bo.

112 is bad. Good catch rest of town.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

this makes sense. I'll look from this perspective while ISOing 112. which i planned after yesterday's nap but welp here i am planning a relaxing shower first.

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:04 am**

nvm I'll ISO 112 rn

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:09 am**

I challenge anyone to ISO me

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:11 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:09 am I challenge anyone to ISO me

rudely decline your challenge

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:12 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:11 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:09 am I challenge anyone to ISO me
rudely decline your challenge

hahahaha, rude declination accepted

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:15 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:50 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:44 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:42 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:36 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:35 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:27 pm

These slots have been content to ignore me because I was digging my own grave. But now I am on Bo they are pushing me pretty hard, does Uri/Ruri/Bo-Syn have equity?
Out yourself more pls
Tunnel me more pls
this is town wtf is wrong with people?
any specific part of it town?
yeah. given that you are one of the players from my night action, unless you are confident with yourself you wouldn't be poking around people to poke you back, plus i find you towny because you just give me the vibes from my early town games in my homesite.
oh ask @EnderWiggin I AM full of myself. But I appreciate the read

Can confirm. Rondo is a full of herself schoolgirl. =P

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:16 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:56 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:50 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:34 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:32 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:30 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:18 am
Tell me please how do you read Rondo and why
closer to neutral than anything but i've been shifting around. i had him as slightly town before i left the thread yesterday and went to sleep. part of me feels that if the town's best guess is rondo we're probably not winning this game. whether that should have any effect on how i read him idk.

to be honest i feel like my heart thinks he's town and that i'm being somewhat peer-pressured into thinking he's wolfier than he actually is to me.

i think what i called abrasiveness in him is usually a wolf trait but i don't think it's wolfy here. not sure i can really elaborate on that, but just that he's been very consistently posting with attitude in every post i've read makes me like him more somehow. like it doesn't feel like an act.

as far as solvey stuff from rondo, i don't really have anything in mind, but i've melded with some posts and insights iirc and he seems to be actually contributing better than others?

like i'm not saying he can't be wolf but i don't understand fully why he's your first choice
A very thoroughly-winded read of Rondo. Wagons were 3-3-5 Wilgy-Rondo-MR
Based on that, it is even more likely Rondo is a potential teammate.
no scotty please. I have a cop check from wiggly saying I am good. Trust in me
If probably place less interest in mafia players town reading others, but I can’t rule you out.

I don’t know Wilgy is good. Do you?
If 112 flips red we turbo Wilgy btw btw btw.
explain this to me

Ender: Hey Doc failed? Well, I might have a reason to think I blocked the kill and if I did then exactly Wilgy is scum.
Ender: Unless maybe someone else has a reason?
...
Silence Reigns
112: Maybe I blocked the thing.

If 112 is red the only sequence of events this happens in is if exactly DrWilgy is her partner.
Becuase otherwise 112 lets me turbo DrWilgy and laughs about it.

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:28 am**

Speaking of doc, Urist claims doc but isnt dead?

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:41 am**

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:51 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:41 pm Guys, I might just be policy voting but I think ENDER is mafia this game
and for me, if i can rage for a bit, i've been strongly suspected of being maf in every game of mafia i've played for the past two years. the only time i'm not a serious contender for yeet is when i'm mechcleared or something and the mafia kill me

most people will never be able to accurately read me when i'm playing sucky mafia and will struggle even more when i'm on my game as is the case here

like c'mon. literally i'm one of two or three people posting original thoughts + scholarship. and if you find that suspicious that's ok but it doesn't mean you're right.

i'm not going to be super serious the whole game but i do want to do well here. i'm actually in the headspace for a game for once and i'm not going to let the opportunity to play an epic one be killed just cuz people don't realize the immensity and true nature of my IQ.

not gonna appeal to my meta here or some rubbish but there's no legitimate basis to suspect me here. like at all. and that peeves me because i feel it's how most of my games have gone over the past forever. tell me why i'm mafia instead of manipulating/propagandizing a wagon to form against me for spitting fax.

and before this is used as some kind of conf-bias against me: the statistically right play is not to get annoyed by votes and to just calmly play it out. that's how i've won as a solo wolf after being wagonned d1 before. that's the right play and i know it. and i'm not doing that bcuz sometimes a TRUE ARTIST needs to grab the mic. that's all.

what was your intention behind posting this? @112

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:44 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:16 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:56 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:50 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:47 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:34 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:32 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:30 am

closer to neutral than anything but i've been shifting around. i had him as slightly town before i left the thread yesterday and went to sleep. part of me feels that if the town's best guess is rondo we're probably not winning this game. whether that should have any effect on how i read him idk.

to be honest i feel like my heart thinks he's town and that i'm being somewhat peer-pressured into thinking he's wolfier than he actually is to me.

i think what i called abrasiveness in him is usually a wolf trait but i don't think it's wolfy here. not sure i can really elaborate on that, but just that he's been very consistently posting with attitude in every post i've read makes me like him more somehow. like it doesn't feel like an act.

as far as solvey stuff from rondo, i don't really have anything in mind, but i've melded with some posts and insights iirc and he seems to be actually contributing better than others?

like i'm not saying he can't be wolf but i don't understand fully why he's your first choice
A very thoroughly-winded read of Rondo. Wagons were 3-3-5 Wilgy-Rondo-MR
Based on that, it is even more likely Rondo is a potential teammate.
no scotty please. I have a cop check from wiggly saying I am good. Trust in me
If probably place less interest in mafia players town reading others, but I can’t rule you out.

I don’t know Wilgy is good. Do you?
If 112 flips red we turbo Wilgy btw btw btw.
explain this to me
Ender: Hey Doc failed? Well, I might have a reason to think I blocked the kill and if I did then exactly Wilgy is scum.
Ender: Unless maybe someone else has a reason?
...
Silence Reigns
112: Maybe I blocked the thing.

If 112 is red the only sequence of events this happens in is if exactly DrWilgy is her partner.
Becuase otherwise 112 lets me turbo DrWilgy and laughs about it.

i see

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:51 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:28 am Speaking of doc, Urist claims doc but isnt dead?

Common. Doc is most useful when they aren't outed. Outed Doc is easy to block or prevent.

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:59 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:41 am
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:51 pm
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:41 pm Guys, I might just be policy voting but I think ENDER is mafia this game
and for me, if i can rage for a bit, i've been strongly suspected of being maf in every game of mafia i've played for the past two years. the only time i'm not a serious contender for yeet is when i'm mechcleared or something and the mafia kill me

most people will never be able to accurately read me when i'm playing sucky mafia and will struggle even more when i'm on my game as is the case here

like c'mon. literally i'm one of two or three people posting original thoughts + scholarship. and if you find that suspicious that's ok but it doesn't mean you're right.

i'm not going to be super serious the whole game but i do want to do well here. i'm actually in the headspace for a game for once and i'm not going to let the opportunity to play an epic one be killed just cuz people don't realize the immensity and true nature of my IQ.

not gonna appeal to my meta here or some rubbish but there's no legitimate basis to suspect me here. like at all. and that peeves me because i feel it's how most of my games have gone over the past forever. tell me why i'm mafia instead of manipulating/propagandizing a wagon to form against me for spitting fax.

and before this is used as some kind of conf-bias against me: the statistically right play is not to get annoyed by votes and to just calmly play it out. that's how i've won as a solo wolf after being wagonned d1 before. that's the right play and i know it. and i'm not doing that bcuz sometimes a TRUE ARTIST needs to grab the mic. that's all.
what was your intention behind posting this? @112

yeah this post came across as nonsense and I never understood why I was tagged

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:59 am**

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:51 am
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 2:28 am Speaking of doc, Urist claims doc but isnt dead?
Common. Doc is most useful when they aren't outed. Outed Doc is easy to block or prevent.

True, But I am the doc [Transparent lie]

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:07 am**

Spoiler: show

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:44 pmhardclaiming mafia

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:59 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:53 pm Hmmmmm.

Fuck.
mac + this guy scum

MR possibly scum but i'm not sure yet. he's forcing all his posts but consciously/knowingly so i dunno

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:08 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:06 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:59 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:53 pm Hmmmmm.

Fuck.
mac + this guy scum

MR possibly scum but i'm not sure yet. he's forcing all his posts but consciously/knowingly so i dunno
all posts are forced
maybe, but there's a distinct quality to wolfous stilt as opposed to townous stilt to me

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:27 pm k i got in touch with my homies and they advised me not to say anything and just dip out of the thread until this boils over

so i am going to have dinner and consider deeper questions

smh

112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:37 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:31 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:40 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:37 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:35 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:30 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:29 am

i'm pretty confident he's town fwiw
well that's good news unless you and Mac are exactly w/w

I think I'm not so bad at the game that this isn't the case but if that is the case just lap it up in wolfchat I'm used to it
i lap everyone in wolfchat. my teammates hate me, but bear in forest is no fear. i can outrun it.
You stand at a crossroads...what will you do?

^Church
<-Pawn Shop
Pirate Ship->
Magic Shopv
Magic shop probably most useful with my current build. v

@Master Radishes - how are you doing catching up?
Why would I catch up
ngl, i'm wondering if you're not taking this game seriously when you do crucial errands instead of spending your morning reading up on 10 pages of roughly insignificant dialogue.

112 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:06 am you know who probably is legit wolfing?

MR

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:16 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:13 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:09 pm well anyway:

i think michelle is mafia and the poisoner is town-aligned so good job poisoner

let me write up the thing i was finna write

i also thing syn is town and there was nothing but town on town violence day 1, will also write up on that
I thought I was gonna be all edgy coming in here saying Michelle maf and Syn town and tutuu snipes me.

(Not sure on Michelle being mafia anymore though if she's poisoned.)
what are your thoughts on mac?

112 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:49 pm hi sorry, long couple of days. renovations in my suite are ongoing and it's stressful on top of general business

[VOTE: enderwiggin] aubergine

^because i'm 50 pages behind and will be going by gut until i catch up on enough details

112 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:53 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:47 pm Looking through 112’s iso…

There’s a few red flags

There’s no discernible progression of how 112 starts our scum reading Mac:
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:10 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:59 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:53 pm Hmmmmm.

Fuck.
mac + this guy scum

MR possibly scum but i'm not sure yet. he's forcing all his posts but consciously/knowingly so i dunno
[VOTE: 112] aubergine
that womp womp stuff was probably the wolfiest thing anyone's posted this game and you know it.
To this:
112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:29 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:23 am I'll probably roll with Mac for a bit don't really care if I'm wrong I can always reevaluate or die
i'm pretty confident he's town fwiw

112 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:46 am KZA is also a reasonable confident townread.
you and him are the players i normally read well and am pretty sure are town

'that womp womp stuff was probably the wolfiest thing anyone's posted this game and you know it' was sarcasm. i don't even remember making the initial read and whether it was serious.

i am always on top of maintaining consistency when i'm wolfing. i'll only break the general rules and backflip like that from this player is x alignment to this player is y alignment without any progression when i'm town. i know i'm giving you a meta read on myself but it's the truth, so take it with w/e you want.

also i feel i'm a better wolf than you're assuming so i feel somewhat challenged here lmao.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:37 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:35 pm im just clueless at whos the mafia lol

...syn? rondo? wilgy? radish? falcon?
MR likely
i haven't read a syn post in days
rondo plausible to probable
falc also likely

in conclusion if i have played with you extensively, you are scum

112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:16 am
Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:47 am
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:19 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:16 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:11 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:16 pm @112 @falcon45ca @BoKnows

Does Koba seem like Aladeen to you?
in what way?
Performative when caught.
haven't read any of their stuff really but i'm pretty sure they're maf just by the forced gibberizing of their posts
this looks pretty bad for 112 tbh
i thought koba was pretending to be drunk here btw. i think if you scroll up on that page there's a post or a post in a quote suggesting koba was claiming to be 'hammered' or, in my interpretation, drunk. the post i said was gibberized looked like fake drunk texting, but i think koba was just in a rush or something and i started townreading them after their explanation.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:08 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:11 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:00 am @Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?
Of course.

The thing about 112 is that when she's on her game she is a unique player archetype I struggle to definitively read, despite having played with her for so many years. I could definitely read her pre-2019 or so, but since her Champs experience I've often struggled - unless she's phoning it in, of course, which happened occasionally in CDC games.

My default setting is to scumread her. Partially this is me just being very reluctant to let myself be fooled by her, partially it's the erratic behaviour she can exhibit as town/mimic as scum. I need to look for reasons to call her town, not the other way around. So far this game we've not interacted in the thread at the same time much; both of us have had long spurts of not being present. So it's been difficult to get any sort of accurate read and I've largely avoided doing so and focused instead on what's in front of me when I'm here.

I will go out on a limb and again GTH call her town. On a big picture level, her limpness in the game would point to her being scum who just doesn't have the time/inclination to put in work. As town she should find it easier to throw out some snap reads without a care in the world. But that's too easily explained away by 'irl stuff' (which I might be overly sympathetic to right now tbh) and when reading her individual posts I can't see anything in particular I want to point out and call scummy. I don't sense what I think is her usual scum agenda of making herself come across as erratic and pure. If she's on a team with others I don't see what she's doing to help them.

It's still very possible she's scum and just sort of coasting by because she's never faced any particularly hot heat, but I think she is probably town who doesn't have the time or energy to put in.

Spoiler: show
Or 3P actually. I, uh, have been harbouring that one for awhile now. If this game reminds me of any I've played with her, it's GoC, where she was 3P.

this is fair and reads as prototypical towny MR

Okay, so now that MR has flipped Red, I see so many red flags in this ISO from that POV alone.
112 called MR scummy on multiple occasions never followed that read of theirs, when somone questioned them about MR, they changed with a towny opinion even though they found MR scummy few pages back. They only voted for MR D3 when he was becoming a topic of concern and after some time they called their post as "this is fair and reads as prototypical towny MR". i don't see why MR-112 can't be scum buddies given the progression honestly.

Even when I am leaving MR aside, 112's defense against early Scotty ISO was WIFOMy imo, and they explained their game on unnecessary places in unnecessary amounts that idk how points a towny agenda in anyway. The other incident that raised a few question was their TR on Koba before flip, the defense for their read was weak. Apart from all these they have casted their votes without explaining their reads on the player they voted + didn't bother to look into them later/make further reads on them.

If they flip red, i'm auto scum reading all games where they hardclaim mafia in the first post.

i quoted a few posts that should be looked at imo.

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:09 am**

I think I'll rather choose this path believing in myself.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:17 am**

What today proves is that if I'm right mafia don't want to be busy fighting me or Scotty's follow up case killed the wim of scum.

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:28 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:09 am I think I'll rather choose this path believing in myself.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

yikes

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:06 am**

Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:07 am
Spoiler: show
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:44 pmhardclaiming mafia

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:59 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:53 pm Hmmmmm.

Fuck.
mac + this guy scum

MR possibly scum but i'm not sure yet. he's forcing all his posts but consciously/knowingly so i dunno

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:08 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:06 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:59 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:53 pm Hmmmmm.

Fuck.
mac + this guy scum

MR possibly scum but i'm not sure yet. he's forcing all his posts but consciously/knowingly so i dunno
all posts are forced
maybe, but there's a distinct quality to wolfous stilt as opposed to townous stilt to me

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:27 pm k i got in touch with my homies and they advised me not to say anything and just dip out of the thread until this boils over

so i am going to have dinner and consider deeper questions

smh

112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:37 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:31 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:40 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:37 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:35 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:30 am

well that's good news unless you and Mac are exactly w/w

I think I'm not so bad at the game that this isn't the case but if that is the case just lap it up in wolfchat I'm used to it
i lap everyone in wolfchat. my teammates hate me, but bear in forest is no fear. i can outrun it.
You stand at a crossroads...what will you do?

^Church
<-Pawn Shop
Pirate Ship->
Magic Shopv
Magic shop probably most useful with my current build. v

@Master Radishes - how are you doing catching up?
Why would I catch up
ngl, i'm wondering if you're not taking this game seriously when you do crucial errands instead of spending your morning reading up on 10 pages of roughly insignificant dialogue.

112 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:06 am you know who probably is legit wolfing?

MR

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:16 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:13 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:09 pm well anyway:

i think michelle is mafia and the poisoner is town-aligned so good job poisoner

let me write up the thing i was finna write

i also thing syn is town and there was nothing but town on town violence day 1, will also write up on that
I thought I was gonna be all edgy coming in here saying Michelle maf and Syn town and tutuu snipes me.

(Not sure on Michelle being mafia anymore though if she's poisoned.)
what are your thoughts on mac?

112 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:49 pm hi sorry, long couple of days. renovations in my suite are ongoing and it's stressful on top of general business

[VOTE: enderwiggin] aubergine

^because i'm 50 pages behind and will be going by gut until i catch up on enough details

112 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:53 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:47 pm Looking through 112’s iso…

There’s a few red flags

There’s no discernible progression of how 112 starts our scum reading Mac:
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:10 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:59 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:53 pm Hmmmmm.

Fuck.
mac + this guy scum

MR possibly scum but i'm not sure yet. he's forcing all his posts but consciously/knowingly so i dunno
[VOTE: 112] aubergine
that womp womp stuff was probably the wolfiest thing anyone's posted this game and you know it.
To this:
112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:29 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:23 am I'll probably roll with Mac for a bit don't really care if I'm wrong I can always reevaluate or die
i'm pretty confident he's town fwiw

112 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:46 am KZA is also a reasonable confident townread.
you and him are the players i normally read well and am pretty sure are town

'that womp womp stuff was probably the wolfiest thing anyone's posted this game and you know it' was sarcasm. i don't even remember making the initial read and whether it was serious.

i am always on top of maintaining consistency when i'm wolfing. i'll only break the general rules and backflip like that from this player is x alignment to this player is y alignment without any progression when i'm town. i know i'm giving you a meta read on myself but it's the truth, so take it with w/e you want.

also i feel i'm a better wolf than you're assuming so i feel somewhat challenged here lmao.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:37 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:35 pm im just clueless at whos the mafia lol

...syn? rondo? wilgy? radish? falcon?
MR likely
i haven't read a syn post in days
rondo plausible to probable
falc also likely

in conclusion if i have played with you extensively, you are scum

112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:16 am
Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:47 am
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:19 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:16 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:11 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:16 pm @112 @falcon45ca @BoKnows

Does Koba seem like Aladeen to you?
in what way?
Performative when caught.
haven't read any of their stuff really but i'm pretty sure they're maf just by the forced gibberizing of their posts
this looks pretty bad for 112 tbh
i thought koba was pretending to be drunk here btw. i think if you scroll up on that page there's a post or a post in a quote suggesting koba was claiming to be 'hammered' or, in my interpretation, drunk. the post i said was gibberized looked like fake drunk texting, but i think koba was just in a rush or something and i started townreading them after their explanation.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:08 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:11 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:00 am @Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?
Of course.

The thing about 112 is that when she's on her game she is a unique player archetype I struggle to definitively read, despite having played with her for so many years. I could definitely read her pre-2019 or so, but since her Champs experience I've often struggled - unless she's phoning it in, of course, which happened occasionally in CDC games.

My default setting is to scumread her. Partially this is me just being very reluctant to let myself be fooled by her, partially it's the erratic behaviour she can exhibit as town/mimic as scum. I need to look for reasons to call her town, not the other way around. So far this game we've not interacted in the thread at the same time much; both of us have had long spurts of not being present. So it's been difficult to get any sort of accurate read and I've largely avoided doing so and focused instead on what's in front of me when I'm here.

I will go out on a limb and again GTH call her town. On a big picture level, her limpness in the game would point to her being scum who just doesn't have the time/inclination to put in work. As town she should find it easier to throw out some snap reads without a care in the world. But that's too easily explained away by 'irl stuff' (which I might be overly sympathetic to right now tbh) and when reading her individual posts I can't see anything in particular I want to point out and call scummy. I don't sense what I think is her usual scum agenda of making herself come across as erratic and pure. If she's on a team with others I don't see what she's doing to help them.

It's still very possible she's scum and just sort of coasting by because she's never faced any particularly hot heat, but I think she is probably town who doesn't have the time or energy to put in.

Spoiler: show
Or 3P actually. I, uh, have been harbouring that one for awhile now. If this game reminds me of any I've played with her, it's GoC, where she was 3P.

this is fair and reads as prototypical towny MR

Okay, so now that MR has flipped Red, I see so many red flags in this ISO from that POV alone.
112 called MR scummy on multiple occasions never followed that read of theirs, when somone questioned them about MR, they changed with a towny opinion even though they found MR scummy few pages back. They only voted for MR D3 when he was becoming a topic of concern and after some time they called their post as "this is fair and reads as prototypical towny MR". i don't see why MR-112 can't be scum buddies given the progression honestly.

Even when I am leaving MR aside, 112's defense against early Scotty ISO was WIFOMy imo, and they explained their game on unnecessary places in unnecessary amounts that idk how points a towny agenda in anyway. The other incident that raised a few question was their TR on Koba before flip, the defense for their read was weak. Apart from all these they have casted their votes without explaining their reads on the player they voted + didn't bother to look into them later/make further reads on them.

If they flip red, i'm auto scum reading all games where they hardclaim mafia in the first post.

i quoted a few posts that should be looked at imo.

If 112 is scum do you think 2 scum would try to throw me under the bus if I am scum?

Posted: **Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:33 am**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:06 am
Poison wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 3:07 am
Spoiler: show
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:44 pmhardclaiming mafia

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:59 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:53 pm Hmmmmm.

Fuck.
mac + this guy scum

MR possibly scum but i'm not sure yet. he's forcing all his posts but consciously/knowingly so i dunno

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:08 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:06 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:59 pm
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 5:53 pm Hmmmmm.

Fuck.
mac + this guy scum

MR possibly scum but i'm not sure yet. he's forcing all his posts but consciously/knowingly so i dunno
all posts are forced
maybe, but there's a distinct quality to wolfous stilt as opposed to townous stilt to me

112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:27 pm k i got in touch with my homies and they advised me not to say anything and just dip out of the thread until this boils over

so i am going to have dinner and consider deeper questions

smh

112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:37 am
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 4:31 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:40 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:37 am
112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:35 am

i lap everyone in wolfchat. my teammates hate me, but bear in forest is no fear. i can outrun it.
You stand at a crossroads...what will you do?

^Church
<-Pawn Shop
Pirate Ship->
Magic Shopv
Magic shop probably most useful with my current build. v

@Master Radishes - how are you doing catching up?
Why would I catch up
ngl, i'm wondering if you're not taking this game seriously when you do crucial errands instead of spending your morning reading up on 10 pages of roughly insignificant dialogue.

112 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:06 am you know who probably is legit wolfing?

MR

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:16 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:13 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:09 pm well anyway:

i think michelle is mafia and the poisoner is town-aligned so good job poisoner

let me write up the thing i was finna write

i also thing syn is town and there was nothing but town on town violence day 1, will also write up on that
I thought I was gonna be all edgy coming in here saying Michelle maf and Syn town and tutuu snipes me.

(Not sure on Michelle being mafia anymore though if she's poisoned.)
what are your thoughts on mac?

112 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:49 pm hi sorry, long couple of days. renovations in my suite are ongoing and it's stressful on top of general business

[VOTE: enderwiggin] aubergine

^because i'm 50 pages behind and will be going by gut until i catch up on enough details

112 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:53 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:47 pm Looking through 112’s iso…

There’s a few red flags

There’s no discernible progression of how 112 starts our scum reading Mac:
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:13 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:10 pm
112 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 7:59 pm

mac + this guy scum

MR possibly scum but i'm not sure yet. he's forcing all his posts but consciously/knowingly so i dunno
[VOTE: 112] aubergine
that womp womp stuff was probably the wolfiest thing anyone's posted this game and you know it.
To this:
112 wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:29 am
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Aug 27, 2021 3:23 am I'll probably roll with Mac for a bit don't really care if I'm wrong I can always reevaluate or die
i'm pretty confident he's town fwiw

112 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:48 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 1:46 am KZA is also a reasonable confident townread.
you and him are the players i normally read well and am pretty sure are town

'that womp womp stuff was probably the wolfiest thing anyone's posted this game and you know it' was sarcasm. i don't even remember making the initial read and whether it was serious.

i am always on top of maintaining consistency when i'm wolfing. i'll only break the general rules and backflip like that from this player is x alignment to this player is y alignment without any progression when i'm town. i know i'm giving you a meta read on myself but it's the truth, so take it with w/e you want.

also i feel i'm a better wolf than you're assuming so i feel somewhat challenged here lmao.

112 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:37 pm
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 01, 2021 9:35 pm im just clueless at whos the mafia lol

...syn? rondo? wilgy? radish? falcon?
MR likely
i haven't read a syn post in days
rondo plausible to probable
falc also likely

in conclusion if i have played with you extensively, you are scum

112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:16 am
Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:47 am
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:19 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:16 pm
112 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 31, 2021 1:11 pm

in what way?
Performative when caught.
haven't read any of their stuff really but i'm pretty sure they're maf just by the forced gibberizing of their posts
this looks pretty bad for 112 tbh
i thought koba was pretending to be drunk here btw. i think if you scroll up on that page there's a post or a post in a quote suggesting koba was claiming to be 'hammered' or, in my interpretation, drunk. the post i said was gibberized looked like fake drunk texting, but i think koba was just in a rush or something and i started townreading them after their explanation.

112 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 2:08 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 1:11 pm
Made wrote: ↑Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:00 am @Master Radishes if there ever a world where 112 is just scum here?
Of course.

The thing about 112 is that when she's on her game she is a unique player archetype I struggle to definitively read, despite having played with her for so many years. I could definitely read her pre-2019 or so, but since her Champs experience I've often struggled - unless she's phoning it in, of course, which happened occasionally in CDC games.

My default setting is to scumread her. Partially this is me just being very reluctant to let myself be fooled by her, partially it's the erratic behaviour she can exhibit as town/mimic as scum. I need to look for reasons to call her town, not the other way around. So far this game we've not interacted in the thread at the same time much; both of us have had long spurts of not being present. So it's been difficult to get any sort of accurate read and I've largely avoided doing so and focused instead on what's in front of me when I'm here.

I will go out on a limb and again GTH call her town. On a big picture level, her limpness in the game would point to her being scum who just doesn't have the time/inclination to put in work. As town she should find it easier to throw out some snap reads without a care in the world. But that's too easily explained away by 'irl stuff' (which I might be overly sympathetic to right now tbh) and when reading her individual posts I can't see anything in particular I want to point out and call scummy. I don't sense what I think is her usual scum agenda of making herself come across as erratic and pure. If she's on a team with others I don't see what she's doing to help them.

It's still very possible she's scum and just sort of coasting by because she's never faced any particularly hot heat, but I think she is probably town who doesn't have the time or energy to put in.

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Or 3P actually. I, uh, have been harbouring that one for awhile now. If this game reminds me of any I've played with her, it's GoC, where she was 3P.

this is fair and reads as prototypical towny MR

Okay, so now that MR has flipped Red, I see so many red flags in this ISO from that POV alone.
112 called MR scummy on multiple occasions never followed that read of theirs, when somone questioned them about MR, they changed with a towny opinion even though they found MR scummy few pages back. They only voted for MR D3 when he was becoming a topic of concern and after some time they called their post as "this is fair and reads as prototypical towny MR". i don't see why MR-112 can't be scum buddies given the progression honestly.

Even when I am leaving MR aside, 112's defense against early Scotty ISO was WIFOMy imo, and they explained their game on unnecessary places in unnecessary amounts that idk how points a towny agenda in anyway. The other incident that raised a few question was their TR on Koba before flip, the defense for their read was weak. Apart from all these they have casted their votes without explaining their reads on the player they voted + didn't bother to look into them later/make further reads on them.

If they flip red, i'm auto scum reading all games where they hardclaim mafia in the first post.

i quoted a few posts that should be looked at imo.
If 112 is scum do you think 2 scum would try to throw me under the bus if I am scum?

Since it is a flipless game I think many things can happen but if two scums die on consecutive days I think scum would try to keep the other scums safe or distance them. But I don't think understand your reason for asking this question and what is it based on?

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