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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
@Alison, can you tell me more about Mac?
I give him zero points for Sonny/OrangeCrush, so don't talk about that, please.
I give him zero points for Sonny/OrangeCrush, so don't talk about that, please.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
I had a read on Sonny/Orange but it was an illegal one and town has bashed me for less crazy reads, i was not gonna try that one, i told my mason partner and he disregarded it too.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 1]
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 8:24 am @Owner of a Lonely Heart, you haven’t posted any thoughts on me. You questioned why I was the leading wagon at the time...but so did Mac and so did Sonny. The question doesn’t bother me from Mac. It’s slightlyfrom Sonny, and very
from you. Have you got your answer and have you made an opinion on it?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
You should ask the hosts in your discord if you can share it.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:28 am I had a read on Sonny/Orange but it was an illegal one and town has bashed me for less crazy reads, i was not gonna try that one, i told my mason partner and he disregarded it too.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
I’m cool with act votes. Sitting on made for a but for the sake of reminding us all that there are probably still multiple wolves in here.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Well let's discount Sonny from the equation for a moment.
Mac has still kept up a stream of solving, pro-town content from Day 1 up til now. He was one of the first to express suspicion on nutella and pushed her wagon hard. He didn't bury Owner but he had zero interest in defending them. Furthermore his POEs have been largely accurate and he has shown enough paranoia of strong players to be townie but not enough that I'd think he's mafia trying to break up the towncore.
orangecrush tried to get us to suspect him for really bad reasons. nutella treated Mac in an extremely "appeasement" way, saying "ah Mac will just reverse his read on me in a bit or else I'll know he's scum". This is almost like she is hoping/begging that Mac will drop his attack against her, and certainly not something you'd expect to see from her treating a bussing teammate. So that makes two scum that have treated him in a very distinctly nonpartnery way, and nutella is well known for giving good spew (see Owner).
Taken as a totality Mac has been a force for good this game and the mafia have treated him in ways that do not appear partnered.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Guillo if your mason partner is one of the four people in my POE please share their identity, else keep their identity secret.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Fine by me. I'd be pretty surprised at this point if two are in the [Act, Made, Gnome] set, and I have a way of figuring out Gnome. Let's not chop Gnome today.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Lots of people's roles have been exposed.
The host has warned that there will be consequences for mass claiming. We have seen hide nor hair of traditional anti-massclaim mechanics, like soupkills or similar. I am slightly worried there is a bomb brewing.
Don't lose your minds over this but do think twice before claiming unnecessarily from now on.
The host has warned that there will be consequences for mass claiming. We have seen hide nor hair of traditional anti-massclaim mechanics, like soupkills or similar. I am slightly worried there is a bomb brewing.
Don't lose your minds over this but do think twice before claiming unnecessarily from now on.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Have you seen Mac powerwolf?Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:32 amWell let's discount Sonny from the equation for a moment.
Mac has still kept up a stream of solving, pro-town content from Day 1 up til now. He was one of the first to express suspicion on nutella and pushed her wagon hard. He didn't bury Owner but he had zero interest in defending them. Furthermore his POEs have been largely accurate and he has shown enough paranoia of strong players to be townie but not enough that I'd think he's mafia trying to break up the towncore.
orangecrush tried to get us to suspect him for really bad reasons. nutella treated Mac in an extremely "appeasement" way, saying "ah Mac will just reverse his read on me in a bit or else I'll know he's scum". This is almost like she is hoping/begging that Mac will drop his attack against her, and certainly not something you'd expect to see from her treating a bussing teammate. So that makes two scum that have treated him in a very distinctly nonpartnery way, and nutella is well known for giving good spew (see Owner).
Taken as a totality Mac has been a force for good this game and the mafia have treated him in ways that do not appear partnered.
What scummates lets first-time-mafia-rep-in OC go at Town!Mac like she did? <---- this question is the most important one.
Who told us this originally?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Setup spec: there is a lot of anti-town KP floating around this game. There is the date that kills one or both people on it, there is whatever nutella's role does (presumably it enhances mafia KP somehow), and there is a poisoner. Scum teams might be smaller than you would expect from a game of this size.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Sonnycrush and Actvscenei, continued
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I'm not going to bother breaking out the markers and highlighters. This can just be another compilation of interactions, focused from the Act side of the equation. Long story short none of this changes my mind.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Is someone gonna gonna comment on the possibility that indeed mafia may have copies of town roles?
Gavial/Sonny roleblockers
Hawk/Martin healers
LoMo/AllCrab watchers
Or did we abandon that theory long ago?
Gavial/Sonny roleblockers
Hawk/Martin healers
LoMo/AllCrab watchers
Or did we abandon that theory long ago?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Not interested at this point. Unless the team is exactly Martin + Allcrab/monkey, the theory is bunk. I doubt that's the team.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:39 am Is someone gonna gonna comment on the possibility that indeed mafia may have copies of town roles?
Gavial/Sonny roleblockers
Hawk/Martin healers
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Or did we abandon that theory long ago?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
1) Yes.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:38 amHave you seen Mac powerwolf?Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:32 amWell let's discount Sonny from the equation for a moment.
Mac has still kept up a stream of solving, pro-town content from Day 1 up til now. He was one of the first to express suspicion on nutella and pushed her wagon hard. He didn't bury Owner but he had zero interest in defending them. Furthermore his POEs have been largely accurate and he has shown enough paranoia of strong players to be townie but not enough that I'd think he's mafia trying to break up the towncore.
orangecrush tried to get us to suspect him for really bad reasons. nutella treated Mac in an extremely "appeasement" way, saying "ah Mac will just reverse his read on me in a bit or else I'll know he's scum". This is almost like she is hoping/begging that Mac will drop his attack against her, and certainly not something you'd expect to see from her treating a bussing teammate. So that makes two scum that have treated him in a very distinctly nonpartnery way, and nutella is well known for giving good spew (see Owner).
Taken as a totality Mac has been a force for good this game and the mafia have treated him in ways that do not appear partnered.
What scummates lets first-time-mafia-rep-in OC go at Town!Mac like she did? <---- this question is the most important one.
Who told us this originally?
2) orange's attack seemed opportunistic. I don't think they ran it by scum chat before it happened.
3) I did. It's a pretty well known fact, and she has a reputation for spew in MU games. I have also witnessed her do it in other games (Radiohead), and as mentioned I caught Owner off nutella spew so we know that nutella was not going hard into anti spew this game.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
If the setup is designed like this they would almost certainly be given fakeclaims.Guillotine wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:39 am Is someone gonna gonna comment on the possibility that indeed mafia may have copies of town roles?
Gavial/Sonny roleblockers
Hawk/Martin healers
LoMo/AllCrab watchers
Or did we abandon that theory long ago?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Seanzie you're pretty clearly trying to convince me that my townread on Mac is bunk.
What's your case?
What's your case?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
"2) orange's attack seemed opportunistic. I don't think they ran it by scum chat before it happened."Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:41 am1) Yes.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:38 amHave you seen Mac powerwolf?Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 12:32 amWell let's discount Sonny from the equation for a moment.
Mac has still kept up a stream of solving, pro-town content from Day 1 up til now. He was one of the first to express suspicion on nutella and pushed her wagon hard. He didn't bury Owner but he had zero interest in defending them. Furthermore his POEs have been largely accurate and he has shown enough paranoia of strong players to be townie but not enough that I'd think he's mafia trying to break up the towncore.
orangecrush tried to get us to suspect him for really bad reasons. nutella treated Mac in an extremely "appeasement" way, saying "ah Mac will just reverse his read on me in a bit or else I'll know he's scum". This is almost like she is hoping/begging that Mac will drop his attack against her, and certainly not something you'd expect to see from her treating a bussing teammate. So that makes two scum that have treated him in a very distinctly nonpartnery way, and nutella is well known for giving good spew (see Owner).
Taken as a totality Mac has been a force for good this game and the mafia have treated him in ways that do not appear partnered.
What scummates lets first-time-mafia-rep-in OC go at Town!Mac like she did? <---- this question is the most important one.
Who told us this originally?
2) orange's attack seemed opportunistic. I don't think they ran it by scum chat before it happened.
3) I did. It's a pretty well known fact, and she has a reputation for spew in MU games. I have also witnessed her do it in other games (Radiohead), and as mentioned I caught Owner off nutella spew so we know that nutella was not going hard into anti spew this game.
Attacks? This question to you was only half a trick question. Even if you're town, you should ask yourself, what scumteam lets OC go at Mac like she did. It wasn't just one attack.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Plenty of scumteams let OC go at Mac like she did. If the scumteam is, let us say, Act and Made, they aren't the kind of players who would micromanage their partners' attempts. They may even be feeling demoralized and just want OC to go out in a blaze of glory.
You're making some pretty reachy assumptions about how scumteams must or should act in order to twist the interpretation of OC's attack(s) around. Occam's Razor is that OC tried to whack Mac because Mac is town, end of story.
You're making some pretty reachy assumptions about how scumteams must or should act in order to twist the interpretation of OC's attack(s) around. Occam's Razor is that OC tried to whack Mac because Mac is town, end of story.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Interactions of Sonnycrush and Made
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Note that OC did not mention Made.
I have little to say about this stuff; it's not especially interesting. I highlighted a few bits. Sonny suggested that Mac calling for Made votes was a deflection. This is a deflection away from Made votes. Heh. The other two orange lines probably mean less in context. I note them anyway just as moments of considerable attention paid by Sonny to votes on Made, even one in Owner's direction.
Anyway this doesn't make Made look better. That's the most important thing.
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That's it. Snore.
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Conclusion
This doesn't do much of anything. I'll call it a slight tick negative for Made, but whatever -- he remains premier POE.
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Note that OC did not mention Made.
I have little to say about this stuff; it's not especially interesting. I highlighted a few bits. Sonny suggested that Mac calling for Made votes was a deflection. This is a deflection away from Made votes. Heh. The other two orange lines probably mean less in context. I note them anyway just as moments of considerable attention paid by Sonny to votes on Made, even one in Owner's direction.
Anyway this doesn't make Made look better. That's the most important thing.
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Conclusion
This doesn't do much of anything. I'll call it a slight tick negative for Made, but whatever -- he remains premier POE.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Not gonna bother with Gnome reviews right now.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
I think this is TMI that Martin is town. Any objections?orangecrush wrote: ↑Sun May 30, 2021 11:33 pmSorry, I just think there is good sense to it, especially as I don't want people to waste time on me, also I understand many people here haven't played with me and will find me hard to clear as town on play
If you need a better name I'd just point you toward my reads so far
Gnome or Mac or maybe Martin as if Martin can be confirmed town healer it would help us with Alisom also
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No objection worth talking about, no
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [PRE-GAME]
I think this also TMIs Martin town. In fact I think if Martin was scum and a townie had claimed a bad godread on him Sonny would just be like "oh okay cool, I'll sheep it". Questioning the read and trying to force me to articulate specific reasoning suggests that Sonny was upset about the clear and wanted to try to convince me it wasn't as strong as I thought, or otherwise discredit my read on Martin.
My confidence that Martin is town is renewed.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
what's new fam?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
aside from the DEAD MAFIA I mean
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Me and JJJ have been going through spew from orange/Sonny. My conclusions are that Martin is spewed town and Act looks bad.
JJJ claims to have a way of resolving Gnome and asks us to leave Gnome untouched for now.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Oh you know, standard Syndicate night of roast mafia, town confidence, renewed Mac tinfoil, a little smooth jazz, a loosened bath robe
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
“Resolve” is a strong word for Gnome in this case, but I do think it’ll help.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
lol I don't care about tinfoil this game is hilariously over and if you want to flip me or mech clear me you can go right ahead I will be over here shitposting.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
I share your confidence on the mafia side of business. Please do me a solid though and stay engaged so we don’t lose to some facking poisoner.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:07 am lol I don't care about tinfoil this game is hilariously over and if you want to flip me or mech clear me you can go right ahead I will be over here shitposting.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
I'm town AMA
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Is nook the poisoner?
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
I had a brief glance through Made's ISO and it is mafia indicative.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Lots of nothingburger, seems to have no real pushes, interacts mostly with townies and stays away from interacting with any of the mafia. Gets progressively more disheartened and inactive as mafia members start dropping dead.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Predict the year when one of us makes the other look like an idiot.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
2021JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:10 amPredict the year when one of us makes the other look like an idiot.

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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Mac, if this was a real thought and not just meant to discourage me, you'd talk to me about it out of game. Let's talk about that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:07 amSeanzie you have a drinking problem. Let's talk about that.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
No I wouldn't.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:12 amMac, if this was a real thought and not just meant to discourage me, you'd talk to me about it out of game. Let's talk about that.MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:07 amSeanzie you have a drinking problem. Let's talk about that.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
The POE is fine. If the game doesn't end once we kill all of them y'all can flip me first so I don't have to endure the paranoia party.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Guillo is my tinfoil suspect, if the game devolves into a point where "tinfoil" suspects need to be upgraded to regular suspects. I am not inclined to go in that direction right now. A remaining team of exactly Act + Made is believable right now.
Third party remains at large, but meh.
Third party remains at large, but meh.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Which PoE? Can you list names?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:15 am The POE is fine. If the game doesn't end once we kill all of them y'all can flip me first so I don't have to endure the paranoia party.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Probably. I have the least compelling reasons to clear Guillo and there is the argument that he was trying to create chaos when the thread looked to be set for a orange shot.Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:17 am Guillo is my tinfoil suspect, if the game devolves into a point where "tinfoil" suspects need to be upgraded to regular suspects. I am not inclined to go in that direction right now. A remaining team of exactly Act + Made is believable right now.
Third party remains at large, but meh.
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Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 4]
Act, Allc, Gnome, Made etc.Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:18 amWhich PoE? Can you list names?MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Jun 01, 2021 1:15 am The POE is fine. If the game doesn't end once we kill all of them y'all can flip me first so I don't have to endure the paranoia party.
Guillo is also my prime tinfoil subject based on how desperate and weird he gradually has become.
The poisoner is more or less could be anyone.