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[JaggedJimmyJay]

Be sure to log every reaction Guillotine because I can’t from my phone. It’ll be worth a chat later.

weird post though maybe you're mafia anyway

As if I could be this annoying when mafia

I haven't found you annoying tho. Is this a tell lol

Sorry I’ve probably given most of my annoying to others, poopie

[orangecrush]

Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts

vote me then

What was your case on Dana?

[MacDougall]

Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts

vote me then

What was your case on Dana?

I had a fake red check on her

[orangecrush]

Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts

vote me then

What was your case on Dana?

I had a fake red check on her

^ more anti-town play

[bad bunny]

Is alison busy or is she gone cuz wolf burnout

[Guillotine]

guillos claim is very fake

o rly y that mac

as if guillo holsters a cop check til now

I only had one shot, i wanted to sure of my reads and my gut to fo do. This feels like a giant discredit of my abilities and wisdom as a player.

[MacDougall]

I didn't really have a case on her I just voted her because I felt like she needed to be voted for.

[Actvscenei]

@Guillotine, why did you hold onto an investigation ability until now? You’ve been declaring yourself as super townie since D1 haha that would make you a high NK risk. Holding onto an investigative ability for so long feels neglectful in a way tbh.

[MartinGG99]

@Dana, would you be able and willing to provide a reads list? It doesn’t have to be super detailed, just your raw reads would be helpful.

Yes for sure, just got a lil busy with the real life but Ive been planning to work on a reads list sometime during this day phase

*cocks an eyebrow at Dana and taps watch expectantly*

yeah yeah..

reads off the top of my head

town:
tangy
seanzie
Alison
jjj
nanook
lost monkey

townlean:
mac
guillo
actv
gnome
sloonei
long con

unsure:
hawk
made
sonny/orangecrush
allcrab
Martin
bad bunny

gonna try refine my unsure list a little bit

I would personally doubt Seanzie getting shot unless he's right about JJJ.

I would doubt Alison as well, based on my current sense of the game and recent activity of Alison. I get the feeling they may not be seen as big of a threat; activity can certainly influence that imo. Also my TMI gut speaking here.

LoMo just doesn't seem like a likely NK target to me. Same for Nanook. Both of them aren't conclusively town-read (afaik) and aren't really menacing to the mafia if they're town fmpov.

Tangy could have potentially been attacked. Though they weren't particularly active D3, they were certainly cleared as Not-Mafia on D2 by desperado shot.

JJJ could have potentially been attacked if he's not mafia.

Sloonei is a big ol' maybe. As it stands, the n1 vest is the explanation for the missing night-kill. Then again, Dana could have been innocent and simplistic in their choice (Re: the quote JJJ pulled and posted moments ago).

So basically if Dana wasn't attacked directly fmpov, then 1 of these die:

Seanzie (if JJJ Mafia)/JJJ (if JJJ town)/ Sloonei (Maybe)/ Tangy (Not-Mafia Clear)

[MacDougall]

Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts

vote me then

What was your case on Dana?

I had a fake red check on her

^ more anti-town play

your definition of anti-town is hilar

[MartinGG99]

Would have been attacked* I mean. Not die.

[orangecrush]

guillos claim is very fake

o rly y that mac

as if guillo holsters a cop check til now

I only had one shot, i wanted to sure of my reads and my gut to fo do. This feels like a giant discredit of my abilities and wisdom as a player.

What if you had dies and wasted an important role by not using the shot

[MacDougall]

guillos claim is very fake

o rly y that mac

as if guillo holsters a cop check til now

I only had one shot, i wanted to sure of my reads and my gut to fo do. This feels like a giant discredit of my abilities and wisdom as a player.

you've been also begging a cop to check me

[MacDougall]

@Dana, would you be able and willing to provide a reads list? It doesn’t have to be super detailed, just your raw reads would be helpful.

Yes for sure, just got a lil busy with the real life but Ive been planning to work on a reads list sometime during this day phase

*cocks an eyebrow at Dana and taps watch expectantly*

yeah yeah..

reads off the top of my head

town:
tangy
seanzie
Alison
jjj
nanook
lost monkey

townlean:
mac
guillo
actv
gnome
sloonei
long con

unsure:
hawk
made
sonny/orangecrush
allcrab
Martin
bad bunny

gonna try refine my unsure list a little bit

I would personally doubt Seanzie getting shot unless he's right about JJJ.

I would doubt Alison as well, based on my current sense of the game and recent activity of Alison. I get the feeling they may not be seen as big of a threat; activity can certainly influence that imo. Also my TMI gut speaking here.

LoMo just doesn't seem like a likely NK target to me. Same for Nanook. Both of them aren't conclusively town-read (afaik) and aren't really menacing to the mafia if they're town fmpov.

Tangy could have potentially been attacked. Though they weren't particularly active D3, they were certainly cleared as Not-Mafia on D2 by desperado shot.

JJJ could have potentially been attacked if he's not mafia.

Sloonei is a big ol' maybe. As it stands, the n1 vest is the explanation for the missing night-kill. Then again, Dana could have been innocent and simplistic in their choice (Re: the quote JJJ pulled and posted moments ago).

So basically if Dana wasn't attacked directly fmpov, then 1 of these die:

Seanzie (if JJJ Mafia)/JJJ (if JJJ town)/ Sloonei (Maybe)/ Tangy (Not-Mafia Clear)

Kito died the previous night so it could have been anyone.

[MartinGG99]

Is alison busy or is she gone cuz wolf burnout

I have the impression Alison would've been more active if wolf.

I also have reasons to believe she isn't 3P, but I'm not going to discuss them right now.

[MartinGG99]

Kito died the previous night so it could have been anyone.

Dana couldn't have looked at everyone and think "Yeah, okay, I'll protect them tonight" though.

So that limits the possible night-kills for last night imo.

[MacDougall]

Is alison busy or is she gone cuz wolf burnout

I have the impression Alison would've been more active if wolf.

I also have reasons to believe she isn't 3P, but I'm not going to discuss them right now.

aren't you a 1 shot healer? what could you plausibly know thats worthy of not discussing right now?

[Actvscenei]

guillos claim is very fake

o rly y that mac

as if guillo holsters a cop check til now

I only had one shot, i wanted to sure of my reads and my gut to fo do. This feels like a giant discredit of my abilities and wisdom as a player.

You’re a very confident player in your reads, and being a self-declared super townie, why would you risk not using it?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It had to be someone that Dana would protect or Dana herself. No alternatives.

[MartinGG99]

Though Dana could have been directly attacked and I don't think there's strong enough evidence to discount it.

[MacDougall]

Kito died the previous night so it could have been anyone.

Dana couldn't have looked at everyone and think "Yeah, okay, I'll protect them tonight" though.

So that limits the possible night-kills for last night imo.

Why did you rule out me as a possibility?

[MacDougall]

It had to be someone that Dana would protect or Dana herself. No alternatives.

... this sure is a post

[MartinGG99]

Is alison busy or is she gone cuz wolf burnout

I have the impression Alison would've been more active if wolf.

I also have reasons to believe she isn't 3P, but I'm not going to discuss them right now.

aren't you a 1 shot healer? what could you plausibly know thats worthy of not discussing right now?

I don't think this is the right time to be discussing 3P's. I think it has the potential to throw everyone into disarray and incoordination given that some of the players are skeptical of the more-town-read players such as JJJ.

How I got my information isn't related to my role though.

[Guillotine]

guillos claim is very fake

o rly y that mac

as if guillo holsters a cop check til now

I only had one shot, i wanted to sure of my reads and my gut to fo do. This feels like a giant discredit of my abilities and wisdom as a player.

you've been also begging a cop to check me

Yah but just like you said yesterday, you are not town leader and my theory was that the deepwolf was between players i recognize as leaders. JJJ, Alison and Seanzie.
I was thinking of checking Seanzie, but my inner voice told me that his reaction to Hawktaine trolling seemed genuine.

[MartinGG99]

Kito died the previous night so it could have been anyone.

Dana couldn't have looked at everyone and think "Yeah, okay, I'll protect them tonight" though.

So that limits the possible night-kills for last night imo.

Why did you rule out me as a possibility?

I don't think you were going to be NK'ed + you weren't in the top tier of Dana's last recorded reads-list.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I do think it’s unlikely the mafia team shoots into the POE no matter how many of them are in it. To me it seems pretty simple:

Dana protected me > Dana protected Sloonei/Alison/Tangy/Seanzie/Mac > Dana was shot > Dana protected rando for no reason

I put myself on top because it’s the most obvious deduction given the answers she received at twilight from Sean and Sloonei. Doesn’t have to be me, but I bet it was me.

[MartinGG99]

Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts

vote me then

What was your case on Dana?

I had a fake red check on her

^ more anti-town play

^ hey lets make this note as small as possible by using an up arrow

[JaggedJimmyJay]

It had to be someone that Dana would protect or Dana herself. No alternatives.

... this sure is a post

“It could be anyone” isn’t objectively wrong, but it might as well be. Dana isn’t protecting bad bunny

[orangecrush]

Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts

vote me then

What was your case on Dana?

I had a fake red check on her

^ more anti-town play

your definition of anti-town is hilar

Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.

Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?

[Seanzie]

I think speculating about who Dana protected and who the wolves shot is a fools errand. It is just wasting thread space.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@orangecrush is the red check on me real?

[Guillotine]

I do think it’s unlikely the mafia team shoots into the POE no matter how many of them are in it. To me it seems pretty simple:

Dana protected me > Dana protected Sloonei/Alison/Tangy/Seanzie/Mac > Dana was shot > Dana protected rando for no reason

I put myself on top because it’s the most obvious deduction given the answers she received at twilight from Sean and Sloonei. Doesn’t have to be me, but I bet it was me.

She cant have bodyguarded you unless the 3P is a serial killer or a town vigilante targeted you. Dont you think?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think speculating about who Dana protected and who the wolves shot is a fools errand. It is just wasting thread space.

I think that’s absolutely wrong. Whoever they shot is confirmed not mafia, and if that can be determined with even a small degree of confidence that’s important.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I do think it’s unlikely the mafia team shoots into the POE no matter how many of them are in it. To me it seems pretty simple:

Dana protected me > Dana protected Sloonei/Alison/Tangy/Seanzie/Mac > Dana was shot > Dana protected rando for no reason

I put myself on top because it’s the most obvious deduction given the answers she received at twilight from Sean and Sloonei. Doesn’t have to be me, but I bet it was me.

She cant have bodyguarded you unless the 3P is a serial killer or a town vigilante targeted you. Dont you think?

Eh?

I don’t understand how you came to that conclusion, no. Why can’t she bodyguard me from a mafia kill?

[Actvscenei]

Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts

vote me then

What was your case on Dana?

I had a fake red check on her

^ more anti-town play

your definition of anti-town is hilar

Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.

Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?

So long story short, Mac is scum (or a bad town player) because he faked a red check?

[Seanzie]

Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts

vote me then

What was your case on Dana?

I had a fake red check on her

^ more anti-town play

your definition of anti-town is hilar

Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.

Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?

Orange, for the record, fake redchecks, when used properly can be very pro-town. While it is almost always very bad play to fake a red that you don't rescind eventually, coming into the thread, faking a redcheck, seeing how people reacting, and then rescinding it, and making reads off those reactions can be very beneficial.

[Guillotine]

I do think it’s unlikely the mafia team shoots into the POE no matter how many of them are in it. To me it seems pretty simple:

Dana protected me > Dana protected Sloonei/Alison/Tangy/Seanzie/Mac > Dana was shot > Dana protected rando for no reason

I put myself on top because it’s the most obvious deduction given the answers she received at twilight from Sean and Sloonei. Doesn’t have to be me, but I bet it was me.

She cant have bodyguarded you unless the 3P is a serial killer or a town vigilante targeted you. Dont you think?

Eh?

I don’t understand how you came to that conclusion, no. Why can’t she bodyguard me from a mafia kill?

Because i red checked you

[Seanzie]

I think speculating about who Dana protected and who the wolves shot is a fools errand. It is just wasting thread space.

I think that’s absolutely wrong. Whoever they shot is confirmed not mafia, and if that can be determined with even a small degree of confidence that’s important.

I think Dana is the most likely NK target. You trying to gleam townpoints off this is bad.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Yes yes Guillotine great wonderful

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think speculating about who Dana protected and who the wolves shot is a fools errand. It is just wasting thread space.

I think that’s absolutely wrong. Whoever they shot is confirmed not mafia, and if that can be determined with even a small degree of confidence that’s important.

I think Dana is the most likely NK target. You trying to gleam townpoints off this is bad.

I think that assertion is nonsense, to be quite frank. I mean are we even trying gang?

Fuck’s sake

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Use your brains

[orangecrush]

@orangecrush is the red check on me real?

It would be dumb to fake a check right now I'd say so probably real unless something happened but I wouldn't rule that out, like I said I thought you were town on your early play before the red check . Alison said she had a redirect so we should wait to see if they used jt

[Garden Gnome]

Be sure to log every reaction Guillotine because I can’t from my phone. It’ll be worth a chat later.

weird post though maybe you're mafia anyway

As if I could be this annoying when mafia

I think that there is such thing as annoying mafia.

[MacDougall]

guillos claim is very fake

o rly y that mac

as if guillo holsters a cop check til now

I only had one shot, i wanted to sure of my reads and my gut to fo do. This feels like a giant discredit of my abilities and wisdom as a player.

you've been also begging a cop to check me

Yah but just like you said yesterday, you are not town leader and my theory was that the deepwolf was between players i recognize as leaders. JJJ, Alison and Seanzie.
I was thinking of checking Seanzie, but my inner voice told me that his reaction to Hawktaine trolling seemed genuine.

ok then

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Be sure to log every reaction Guillotine because I can’t from my phone. It’ll be worth a chat later.

weird post though maybe you're mafia anyway

As if I could be this annoying when mafia

I think that there is such thing as annoying mafia.

Your reputation precedes you.

[MacDougall]

Ugh hey everyone I'm sorry I've been inactive last days I have has to do stuff with my family for the holiday weekend, I want to try and look into some things tomorrow when I get a chance, I think people shading or targeting Dana might be a good place to look with her flipping town as maybe there was People looking for easy target with her. I thought she look very towny from her early posts

vote me then

What was your case on Dana?

I had a fake red check on her

^ more anti-town play

your definition of anti-town is hilar

Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.

Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?

I didn't really fake red check her.

Trying to be light hearted isn't shit posting.

Try again.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME you seem to have your head on straight in this game, and for the moment folks are unlikely to take me seriously in here. I’d appreciate if you could do me a solid and keep the thread in line. Thanks.

[Seanzie]

I think speculating about who Dana protected and who the wolves shot is a fools errand. It is just wasting thread space.

I think that’s absolutely wrong. Whoever they shot is confirmed not mafia, and if that can be determined with even a small degree of confidence that’s important.

I think Dana is the most likely NK target. You trying to gleam townpoints off this is bad.

I think that assertion is nonsense, to be quite frank. I mean are we even trying gang?

Fuck’s sake

Either 1. drop the act if you're a wolf, or 2. go back and read twilight last night. Because I realized pretty strongly that Dana was a protective role last night, and I probably shouldn't have hardtownread her like I did, but anyone paying attention to the thread at that time probably came to the same conclusion I did. You don't shoot top townreads when a protective role was accidentally outed in thread. Sorry I did that, but it happened.

[orangecrush]

vote me then

What was your case on Dana?

I had a fake red check on her

^ more anti-town play

your definition of anti-town is hilar

Actually self admittedly shit posting is anti town because it disrupts the thread which could be used for good solving discussion and it clogs up the thread with stuffs that we don't need. Like I've already said Gavlis did this in the last hame I played exactly the same and yes he was scum

Fake red checking someone if you are town would be hilariously anti-town so the question is Just how bad are you as town because if the answer is not very then the plausible explanation is anti-town you is not actually town this game.

Any reasonablly good town lplayer doesn't have to fake check someone to get people to vote them too they can get those votes anyway, wouldn't you agree with that?

I didn't really fake red check her.

Trying to be light hearted isn't shit posting.

Try again.

Uh you yourself called it shit posting

Try again

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think speculating about who Dana protected and who the wolves shot is a fools errand. It is just wasting thread space.

I think that’s absolutely wrong. Whoever they shot is confirmed not mafia, and if that can be determined with even a small degree of confidence that’s important.

I think Dana is the most likely NK target. You trying to gleam townpoints off this is bad.

I think that assertion is nonsense, to be quite frank. I mean are we even trying gang?

Fuck’s sake

Either 1. drop the act if you're a wolf, or 2. go back and read twilight last night. Because I realized pretty strongly that Dana was a protective role last night, and I probably shouldn't have hardtownread her like I did, but anyone paying attention to the thread at that time probably came to the same conclusion I did. You don't shoot top townreads when a protective role was accidentally outed in thread. Sorry I did that, but it happened.

I’ll go back through it when I’m at my computer.