The Syndicate

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:55 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:52 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:49 am Well actually . Also, Do you think is possible Cham is a wolf in a world where Wisp is town?
I think that is kinda unlikely, so Cham wagon should either fuse with Wisp wagon o look somewhere else? Idk

nah i think its highly likely they are both the same alignment

Well actually yeah. But when imagining a W/V dynamic, I think its more likely a W!Wisp and V!Cham dynamic than the reverse, so going Wisp first if you think Cham is prob a wolf should be the safer thing to do? At least in my mind lol

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:47 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 11, 2022 8:47 pm I was asked elsewhere but it’s only fair that this answer is given publicly.

It WILL be announced when the game moves into lylo.

Granted, role madness can make lylo a little fuzzy but as a general rule of thumb for when we make this announcement, we’ll assume the mafia factional is not prevented or redirected onto a wolf.

Somebody do me a favor and ping all living players as I’m on mobile and I think Dizzy is already asleep.

Votes WILL be locked at lylo

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:26 am @dyachei can i have your thoughts on a wisp/cham team? and ur thots on belzy

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:31 am Well actually

{Cham, ender , ilario , lily ,Mac , Nanook ,Neon , Seanzie}

Fmpov I currently think that at max there is only 1 wolf here, and currently wouldnt go to any of them tbh. Wisp I have to reeval to be if they could be there or nah .
I think I can explain why I have anyone there so lmk if you have doubts.

PoE ends up in: Wisp > Dya/Rondo/Belzy .
Belzy cant be yeeted today. So Dya/Rondo > Wisp.
Hmmm. Rondo had also the vote on Porscha D1 that was kinda whatever, but idk. I think if Ender sr's Rondo I'll trust it. If Ender doesnt vote there then I'll just go Dya.

Tho I think its highly likely that voth Dya/Rondo are wolves cuz that would make the game easier for me tbh

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:58 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:55 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:52 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:49 am Well actually . Also, Do you think is possible Cham is a wolf in a world where Wisp is town?
I think that is kinda unlikely, so Cham wagon should either fuse with Wisp wagon o look somewhere else? Idk

nah i think its highly likely they are both the same alignment

Well actually yeah. But when imagining a W/V dynamic, I think its more likely a W!Wisp and V!Cham dynamic than the reverse, so going Wisp first if you think Cham is prob a wolf should be the safer thing to do? At least in my mind lol

how come you think its more likely wolf wisp/v cham and not the other way around?

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:12 am Well actually you can clearly see that being in a PoE the main thing is that I am townreading everyone else dya LoL

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:07 am and whoever accused me of not sticking with reads has clearly not read my d1. It's so misinformed it's hilarious

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:13 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:12 am Well actually you can clearly see that being in a PoE the main thing is that I am townreading everyone else dya LoL

well actually your reads have kind of sucked this game so maybe you should re-evaluate

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:14 am

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:07 am and whoever accused me of not sticking with reads has clearly not read my d1. It's so misinformed it's hilarious

Well actually which are the reads you think you sticked the most?

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:15 am

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:13 am

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:12 am Well actually you can clearly see that being in a PoE the main thing is that I am townreading everyone else dya LoL

well actually your reads have kind of sucked this game so maybe you should re-evaluate

Well actually yes. I as town have better reads when the person Im trying to solve isnt dismissive with me and actually tries to work together with me if they are town what can I say

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:08 am like this is the reason I want ilario to actually ISO me in full. I think I've been plenty villagery and I keep getting pushed for bad reasons

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:19 am Well actually I think that when you asked me worlds about V!Alison worlds I answered still and you got more upset with Mac fwiw.

Like yeah I was tunneled on a read so ofc my read out of it was prob bad? But I feel like you got more yoset with Mac at the tim and didnt really follow up on that . I think I have been doing a great effort to engage when asked stuff / also doing effort to engage with reads tbf

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:05 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:26 am @dyachei can i have your thoughts on a wisp/cham team? and ur thots on belzy

I think it's possible if belzy is v. But I don't really think millium/belzy can be a team due to voting dynamics (both porscha and belzy were on millium's wagon d1, even as day ended). I would have to look again to see if there is any reason why wisp/cham cant be teamed. I had a v read on wisp d1 but I don't think he's actually trying to evaluate me at all. A lot of people aren't but he's been pushing me the most for basically all 3 days

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 10:31 am Well actually

{Cham, ender , ilario , lily ,Mac , Nanook ,Neon , Seanzie}

Fmpov I currently think that at max there is only 1 wolf here, and currently wouldnt go to any of them tbh. Wisp I have to reeval to be if they could be there or nah .
I think I can explain why I have anyone there so lmk if you have doubts.

PoE ends up in: Wisp > Dya/Rondo/Belzy .
Belzy cant be yeeted today. So Dya/Rondo > Wisp.
Hmmm. Rondo had also the vote on Porscha D1 that was kinda whatever, but idk. I think if Ender sr's Rondo I'll trust it. If Ender doesnt vote there then I'll just go Dya.

Tho I think its highly likely that voth Dya/Rondo are wolves cuz that would make the game easier for me tbh

it's because I scum read you, isn't it.

Im not a wolf. I tried to get porscha's wagon going yesterday several times. I made it clear I preferred that over Alison

santygrass wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:20 am Well actually

[VOTE: Millium ] aubergine I still thinking where to end tho. But I think ISOing dya may help me to decide at the end wowee

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:43 am Hmm Wisp wagon structure is basically everything I hate

Neon wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 11:40 am I was on wisp most of today lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:40 am k i read thread here are my very expensive thoughts

hello lily sweet princess how has your day been

mac town likelay

uuuuuuuh yeah sean is doing like the opposite of his towntell atm so that's pain

nobody else important enough for first post not sorry

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 4:03 am

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:45 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:40 am k i read thread here are my very expensive thoughts

hello lily sweet princess how has your day been

mac town likelay

uuuuuuuh yeah sean is doing like the opposite of his towntell atm so that's pain

nobody else important enough for first post not sorry

</3

i'm sorry ender ily but all you had posted was like 3 lolcat posts so there wasn't much to say anyway

Porscha wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:40 pm k I didn't finish catch up gotta go see my parents

I feel like sean is intentionally mixing up his playstyle so I fear this is his attempt to not be polarized but don't know if he's more likely to do this as wolf or town

neon/wisp not w/w

this is the first game ever I think i've seen neon make serious posts day 1. doesn't feel scummy but I was absolutely snowed recently by them wolfing so i'll give tl for now but i'm inclined to re-eval later

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 12:49 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 11:33 pm a hot take that i have is that i actually lightly scumread Belzy. i think that he sounds okay on a tonal level but the actual content of his posts is generally disjointed and the way that he handled his suspicion of the wisp slot in particular didnt really feel like it came from the perspective of someone who cared about wisp's alignment

thank you for saying it b/c I was afraid I was the idiot in the room

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:13 am

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:10 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:09 am lily locktown never rescind btw

why

owo

I held off evaluating you until you came back but your responses were A1 I simply do not think you can fake it the same way as wolf, you're extremely comfortable

not like i've been wrong yet anyway lmfao

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:40 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:42 am

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:38 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:17 am @Porscha what are ur thoughts on the game so far?

If you tr me, why aren’t you defending for me harder?
It seems u have a tr on me but don’t seem keen on convincing others to feel the same way. Maybe I’m over exaggerating, but it feels like with me being top wagon, that you don’t seem to Interested in trying to defend me.

I wouldnt call it a TR
And it's hardly a defense to say something you've done is something I consider NAI
I'm wary of you especially early so I'm not keen on being overly graceful
Also you only have 2 votes right now? I wouldnt call that top wagon status to worry about

I had 3 at the time I said that.

And that’s the thing is you were quick to tr me and felt better about it from what I saw, but I also know that you’re very wary around my slot a lot, so I was curious why you felt the way u did but then didn’t overly defend.

And you say it’s NAI, but you were tr me for certain reasons earlier and discussed it a bit lol.

But I will ask u, what’s ur pov/gamestate rn?

If I qualified you earlier, the most I would have given was a TL which I'm sure you're aware of specifically because I am wary of you

I'm on mobile so this is off the cuff thoughts and yes I will forget people, this time I am sorry:
Lily obvious town one day you guys will get it
Spf I have had a couple moments of agreement/clarity in their posts so despite my fear she can have TL for now. You and her are like paired in my mind
Belzy I masoned with in syn champs in january, it's been a long time, but iirc they are playing at least somewhat similar to that game, but I think that is only based on tone
Wisp literally gave me a headache from the amount of posts, of which maybe 50% contain what could be called content if you peer closely. Dont have meta, willing to take your comment about him usually have pride in wolf play take into consideration at this point and just say sure
I begrudgingly think sean might actually be town and I'm probably just kicking rocks over not having the same way to solve him every game
Nook I generally give TR to until he gives me a reason not to
I literally do not have the slightest idea on how ilario plays but I've seen a few points against him that dont make them look great but idk
I feel good about being able to find town mac and I think he is more likely town here
I'm literally donkey at reading santy so I need more time on him
Ender felt tonally good at first but I found his reasoning to sus me of "usually I vibe with porscha posts but not rn" to be pretty weak. Dont know if town ender just doesnt find himself mind melding as much as usual or if this is wolf ender attempting to set me up for ML at some point
Neon has moved from Administrative TL II to Administrative TL I in the meantime

I feel like I forgot someone who's been talking but my brain is fried and I'm going to sleep sorry to whoever I forgot about

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:04 pm Milly can go idc

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:03 pm

ilario wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:01 pm Tilg was hella scummy near eod

Seven is obv town

/vote Tilg

can you explain your read on seven please? I have seven skill issue to the point where if I think seven is making sense he's probably wolf but if he doesnt make sense he's probably town

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:11 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:05 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:02 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:57 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:56 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:51 pm actually nvm i like porscha's vibe these pages

the questions are directionless antagonism lol

need to see more from her but im not gonna condemn her yet

must be nice to think i'm the one advocating for directionless antagonism but you get to make condescending remarks towards me while you get TR'd for free and I get SR'd for free

sweet power wolf and way to take advantage of aro's flip, bud

lily I didn't see any of your recent posts, can you give me a broad view of your ideas rn

so you scumread me?

honestly your tone is just making me a little angry so I might be an omgus gremlin right now, but depending on how you 180'd on aro's slot I will be taking that into consideration to determine if you're actually just trying to take advantage of his bad read on me to loudly push me over today and keep your hands clean by saying "well it's aro's fault on the read"

because I think a wolf mac who wants to keep the ball rolling could easily throw me under the bus b/c you will always be much louder than I am and I am easily exploitable

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:53 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:46 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:45 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:44 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Nov 08, 2022 11:43 pm @Lilypetal say the word and I will make the most based reads list

do it

do you want it color coded

yes

great then I will make this very easy to read

Neon
Lilypetal
Belzy
Rondo
Santy
Ender

Ilario
Millium
Chamo

Allison
MacDougall
Nanook
Seanzie
Tilg
Dya

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:47 pm I'm confirming myself town by not spamming enough to avoid the slank vig

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:50 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:47 pm I'm confirming myself town by not spamming enough to avoid the slank vig

i think ur just the 3p atp, anyways ill bbl closer to eod if i wake up

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:57 pm I thibk im fairly obvious town tbh but this game has 7k posts so I don't really blame most people for not realizing it and/or forgetting

dyachei wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 12:56 pm @ilario do you think rule of 3 applies to porscha's null list? Or do you think she'd put 2 partners there

ilario wrote: ↑Sat Nov 12, 2022 1:16 pm the way i see it is i think cham is a wolf in most worlds . and i think theres always one in wisp/belzy and thatll need to be resolved at some point. so the benefits to voting cham is i think its more likely to hit a wolf, the benefits to voting wisp is theres a chance hes villa and belzy is the wolf in that pairing, but even if you miss we get some insight onto d1 wagons.