Re: Take Me Out at the Ballgame! [NIGHT 1]
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:47 pm
I think people in this game hold a much higher opinion of my own scum range than I do.
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God was that mccarver? I’m having flashbacksSloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:41 pmEarly Exit for Balfour
Grant Balfour had been having trouble with the strike zone all inning. Or, in his head, the umpire was having trouble with it. He'd already walked the leadoff man on what felt like a good pitch. Now he was down 2-1 in the count, and his latest pitch had been perfectly located on the black.
"Crikey!" he muttered to himself, wondering aloud where the pitch might have been. But his musings were overheard by the homeplate ump, who did not take kindly to criticism. Without a moment's hesitation, Grant was ejected. In stunned disbelief, he pleaded his case, but he knew there was no use. When eventually he retreated to the dugout, the ump stood staring long in his direction, as if daring anyone else to raise their voice. No one was willing to test him. Not yet, at least.
MacDougall has been ejected. He was Grant Balfour, a vanilla civilian.
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Oh I meant game face. Real face is not a thread thing, and when I say "you" I mean "game you". Game MP and Real MP are not the same person, just like game me and real me are no where near the same. IRL I would never tell a person something they did was crap like I did for Jays list, lol.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:44 pmThat's (the bolded/underlined) the strangest thing you've ever said to me.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:43 pmBut you woudn't be faking the reassessment, would you? If you were bad and you knew she wasn't? It woud be easier to change your mind that to push the fake suspicion initially. I think you are downplaying your skills in this post as well.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:37 pmYou tell me.
But if I had to point to one thing, I don't think I can quite fake the exact progression of reads changes I do as town when I'm scum. It's very hard to fake complete re-assessment like that, and I did that with Michelle.
I don't necessarily suspect you, but I don't not suspect you either. But you downplaying how good you actuallyare at things like this ... I never saw you as a falsely modest person, and we leave it there for now.
Linki @MP, OK, it didn;t read that way to me, but I could be overreading it becasue I used to be so good at reading you, and I am trying to find my way to that again.
linki, Oh for Christs sake.
I may come across like an arrogant fuckface sometimes in game, but I'm absolutely that modest of my own abilities.
I appreciate the conversation either way, so no worries from my end.
Yeah I realized you had more history of suspecting Mac so I do think Nanook looks a lot worse for pushing the cfd. I think it looked like a save of LC or Epi.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:46 pmYou didn't wait until the flip happened, and it also seems closed-minded to me as if you're only evaluating our final impact (the vote) as opposed to the totality of posts.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:45 pmWhy? I townread you and nanook before that shitshow, so how is that not reassessingM Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:42 pmI think I fixed it.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:38 pmWe have no idea what the flip is. I honestly hate that kind of stuff; it shows an agenda. IMO a townie should re-evaluate at every flip regardless of preconceived notions.Spoiler: show
It's all my opinion, SVS. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I'm voicing my opinions just like anyone else does.
Anyway, to add to this train of thought re: nutella specifically, I dislike that kind of statement in general always for all time, but I dislike it more coming from her. I understand I haven't played with nutella in a while, but one of my favorite things about her town game is her ability to re-assess, and so I find it incompatible with her town game if she says stuff like that.
I'll take a step back and re-consider. I still think you're more town than not as well, and I don't want us to drift away from having found each other if that is indeed the case. I appreciate the input regardless. It could just be that you and I disagree with how to approach pre-associative reads, even if they're technically after EOD but before the flip, and that's totally okay. I overreacted because I know I'm town and I feel like I've made that evident, so it's on me. I apologize, I should have taken a step back. It's all just very foreign to my brain.
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Ermagerd, you're orange. I don't care. What are your other gripes?S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 pm Oh I meant game face. Real face is not a thread thing, and when I say "you" I mean "game you". Game MP and Real MP are not the same person, just like game me and real me are no where near the same. IRL I would never tell a person something they did was crap like I did for Jays list, lol.
linki, lol, and Jay produces an even crappier list.
I don’t need to build a Mac TK from the ground up to save either of them, thoughnutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 pmYeah I realized you had more history of suspecting Mac so I do think Nanook looks a lot worse for pushing the cfd. I think it looked like a save of LC or Epi.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:46 pmYou didn't wait until the flip happened, and it also seems closed-minded to me as if you're only evaluating our final impact (the vote) as opposed to the totality of posts.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:45 pmWhy? I townread you and nanook before that shitshow, so how is that not reassessingM Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:42 pmI think I fixed it.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:38 pmWe have no idea what the flip is. I honestly hate that kind of stuff; it shows an agenda. IMO a townie should re-evaluate at every flip regardless of preconceived notions.Spoiler: show
It's all my opinion, SVS. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I'm voicing my opinions just like anyone else does.
Anyway, to add to this train of thought re: nutella specifically, I dislike that kind of statement in general always for all time, but I dislike it more coming from her. I understand I haven't played with nutella in a while, but one of my favorite things about her town game is her ability to re-assess, and so I find it incompatible with her town game if she says stuff like that.
Move nutella up a tier. And maybe SVS as well. I need to clearly do some work though because I'm feeling so much town out of us as a group and I'm probably wrong about one particular person.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:47 pm Emergent gut takes:
M Plus 7
Epignosis
Michelle
Long Con
nutella
S~V~S
Nanook
All this about "need" means nothing. I don't care what you think you need. Why was Mac your choice instead of [anyone else]?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:50 pm I don’t need to build a Mac TK from the ground up to save either of them, though
Also I voted Epi before that so that’s a weird way to save him
Oh, yeah, I understand that. I just think there's an element of modesty to my mafia game that you all don't get to see most of the time unless I dump it in the thread.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 pmOh I meant game face. Real face is not a thread thing, and when I say "you" I mean "game you". Game MP and Real MP are not the same person, just like game me and real me are no where near the same. IRL I would never tell a person something they did was crap like I did for Jays list, lol.Spoiler: show
linki, lol, and Jay produces an even crappier list.
Now that's something I'll entertain. With Mac flipping town and us being at 8, presumably 7 tonight, I'll have to give them both a hard look.
POE and viability. Didn’t want to kill the other options (LC/Epi/Nutella...you at some point, I think?), thought j could get traction on Mac and had no reason not to want to kill him.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:52 pmAll this about "need" means nothing. I don't care what you think you need. Why was Mac your choice instead of [anyone else]?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:50 pm I don’t need to build a Mac TK from the ground up to save either of them, though
Also I voted Epi before that so that’s a weird way to save him
You didn't build it from scratch. Numerous people were considering a Mac lynch.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:52 pm Like I get the natural “hey that guy just killed a townie!” Snap reactions, but think this through...why does scumNanook need to build a Mac wagon ENTIRELY FROM SCRATCH when nutella/Epi/LC are all already there?
What?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:49 pmUh
Why do I need to do that as scum? I can only have one partner, lol
You didn't built it from the ground up, you made sure MP was on board with it.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:50 pmI don’t need to build a Mac TK from the ground up to save either of them, thoughnutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 pmYeah I realized you had more history of suspecting Mac so I do think Nanook looks a lot worse for pushing the cfd. I think it looked like a save of LC or Epi.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:46 pmYou didn't wait until the flip happened, and it also seems closed-minded to me as if you're only evaluating our final impact (the vote) as opposed to the totality of posts.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:45 pmWhy? I townread you and nanook before that shitshow, so how is that not reassessingM Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:42 pmI think I fixed it.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:38 pmWe have no idea what the flip is. I honestly hate that kind of stuff; it shows an agenda. IMO a townie should re-evaluate at every flip regardless of preconceived notions.Spoiler: show
It's all my opinion, SVS. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I'm voicing my opinions just like anyone else does.
Anyway, to add to this train of thought re: nutella specifically, I dislike that kind of statement in general always for all time, but I dislike it more coming from her. I understand I haven't played with nutella in a while, but one of my favorite things about her town game is her ability to re-assess, and so I find it incompatible with her town game if she says stuff like that.
Also I voted Epi before that so that’s a weird way to save him
Which I can do much more easily by, you know, keeping my vote on Epi. Or putting it on you.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:54 pmWhat?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:49 pmUh
Why do I need to do that as scum? I can only have one partner, lol
I'm not sure but I think LC was in the lead before the mac votes? So I'm suggesting you were trying to save him
MP wanted to lynch Mac first. You saw the opportunityNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:52 pm Like I get the natural “hey that guy just killed a townie!” Snap reactions, but think this through...why does scumNanook need to build a Mac wagon ENTIRELY FROM SCRATCH when nutella/Epi/LC are all already there?
Bullshit, I built that fucking wagon wholesale. I own it, that wagon belongs to me, I bought the materials and assembled everything, MP brought the horses and LC/JJJ brought the shade cover on top.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:55 pmYou didn't built it from the ground up, you made sure MP was on board with it.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:50 pmI don’t need to build a Mac TK from the ground up to save either of them, thoughnutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 pmYeah I realized you had more history of suspecting Mac so I do think Nanook looks a lot worse for pushing the cfd. I think it looked like a save of LC or Epi.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:46 pmYou didn't wait until the flip happened, and it also seems closed-minded to me as if you're only evaluating our final impact (the vote) as opposed to the totality of posts.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:45 pmWhy? I townread you and nanook before that shitshow, so how is that not reassessingM Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:42 pmI think I fixed it.M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:38 pmWe have no idea what the flip is. I honestly hate that kind of stuff; it shows an agenda. IMO a townie should re-evaluate at every flip regardless of preconceived notions.Spoiler: show
It's all my opinion, SVS. I'm not forcing anyone to do anything. I'm voicing my opinions just like anyone else does.
Anyway, to add to this train of thought re: nutella specifically, I dislike that kind of statement in general always for all time, but I dislike it more coming from her. I understand I haven't played with nutella in a while, but one of my favorite things about her town game is her ability to re-assess, and so I find it incompatible with her town game if she says stuff like that.
Also I voted Epi before that so that’s a weird way to save him
Neither of those people were getting lynched. The climate of the thread was not for it. The loudest people were not for it. You'd have needed a more popular choice. Like Mac.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:55 pm Which I can do much more easily by, you know, keeping my vote on Epi. Or putting it on you.
No you couldn't have.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:58 pm Strongly disagree, I definitely could’ve gotten Epi or nutella TKed over long con imo
This post stinksNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:53 pmPOE and viability. Didn’t want to kill the other options (LC/Epi/Nutella...you at some point, I think?), thought j could get traction on Mac and had no reason not to want to kill him.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:52 pmAll this about "need" means nothing. I don't care what you think you need. Why was Mac your choice instead of [anyone else]?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:50 pm I don’t need to build a Mac TK from the ground up to save either of them, though
Also I voted Epi before that so that’s a weird way to save him
I mean I got Mac TKed with one other person expressing interest, I’m pretty confident I could’ve gotten any of Nutella/Epi/LC killed yesterdayJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:58 pmNo you couldn't have.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:58 pm Strongly disagree, I definitely could’ve gotten Epi or nutella TKed over long con imo
Gut read town, same as last time you askedJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:00 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what is your perspective of Long Con?
I am a bit annoyed right now, tbh. So not a good time for me to engage. You came in here like an overwhelming force trying to wrench people to your opinions, and other peoples thoughts count, not just yours. People listen to you and you are making reads on cursory reads. I did not think your LC case was convincing, I know I am not orange, and I guess my gripe is that you come in here like you're the mafia player wrangler. It's not you, it's me.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:49 pmErmagerd, you're orange. I don't care. What are your other gripes?S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:48 pm Oh I meant game face. Real face is not a thread thing, and when I say "you" I mean "game you". Game MP and Real MP are not the same person, just like game me and real me are no where near the same. IRL I would never tell a person something they did was crap like I did for Jays list, lol.
linki, lol, and Jay produces an even crappier list.
Becasue I am at the very bottom of this one, save one space. I might have been second from the bottom on the last one, too, but I don't think there was a red person on that one, so this just looks worse. It's also even worse becasue he produced it after I told him to read more after he said the first one was based on cursory reads, and I told him to read more.
No dude. MP was not the only person who viewed Mac as an option. I had just stuck him in the orange pile. LC needed a counterwagon. This is bogus.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:00 pmI mean I got Mac TKed with one other person expressing interest, I’m pretty confident I could’ve gotten any of Nutella/Epi/LC killed yesterdayJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:58 pmNo you couldn't have.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:58 pm Strongly disagree, I definitely could’ve gotten Epi or nutella TKed over long con imo![]()
I came in here with more votes on me to be lynched than anyone else. I fought my tail off to prevent my mislynch in a game I had not even begun to read. I do not apologize for that.S~V~S wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:01 pm I am a bit annoyed right now, tbh. So not a good time for me to engage. You came in here like an overwhelming force trying to wrench people to your opinions, and other peoples thoughts count, not just yours. People listen to you and you are making reads on cursory reads. I did not think your LC case was convincing, I know I am not orange, and I guess my gripe is that you come in here like you're the mafia player wrangler. It's not you, it's me.
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@Sloonei will we be pushing the end time any later? 4:30 is super bad for me, I can't stop after work if I have to, and I can't go to stores before work becasue that is when only over 60's are allowed. I don't want you to rearrange the thread just for me, but isn't Bartolo Colon worth it?
He’s the only one I sawJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:01 pmNo dude. MP was not the only person who viewed Mac as an option. I had just stuck him in the orange pile. LC needed a counterwagon. This is bogus.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:00 pmI mean I got Mac TKed with one other person expressing interest, I’m pretty confident I could’ve gotten any of Nutella/Epi/LC killed yesterdayJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:58 pmNo you couldn't have.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:58 pm Strongly disagree, I definitely could’ve gotten Epi or nutella TKed over long con imo![]()
NAI, my friend...JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:35 pmBut bad guys are snarky too Long Con! They're snarky too don't you see!
Me too.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:36 pm This might be the first time I’ve fought for and actually gotten my way on TS
I stated mine and you barely acknowledged it, you just said I'm Chandler.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:37 pmWell that's not very nice.![]()
I have provided reasons for all of those reads. Please state your disagreements and we can go from there.
You saved me, so obviously you're my partner.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:49 pmUh
Why do I need to do that as scum? I can only have one partner, lol
Oh, here we go again...JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:56 pm General assertion: anyone inclined to operate from a "somebody saved LC" (or saved whoever) mindset should be inclined to lynch the savee before the saver. That's the foundation of the theory.
You have seven people and two of them are bad. Who's bad?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:00 pmGut read town, same as last time you askedJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:00 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what is your perspective of Long Con?
If I knew the answer to that I would’ve pushed them instead of MacJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:04 pmYou have seven people and two of them are bad. Who's bad?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:00 pmGut read town, same as last time you askedJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:00 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what is your perspective of Long Con?
I explained to you what I said. If you don't think I am reading, then you're not reading. I don't know what to tell you.
This is worthless. The game moves forward. You can still hunt right now. Who's bad?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:05 pmIf I knew the answer to that I would’ve pushed them instead of MacJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:04 pmYou have seven people and two of them are bad. Who's bad?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:00 pmGut read town, same as last time you askedJaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:00 pm @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME what is your perspective of Long Con?![]()
Well it looks like you know where to start your dig.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:06 pm Probably something like two of Epi/Michelle/Nutella/jay/LC
But, like, that’s not even narrow enough to call it a POE.