Re: The Emperor's Soul [D1]
Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:25 pm
is it? it had no effect on anything and could just be someone scrambling to make a vote before EODMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:20 pm As for Ricochet, I'd definitely consider him for a vote today. I don't think it's a stretch to say that his vote at the deadline was uninspiring. It's one thing to make an uninformed vote, or a hasty vote, but he seemed to try to force reasoning into it when he had none to give, which is kinda wolfy.
I noticed it in my reread, hence my sudden reversal in read on you.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:24 pmActually, LC ruined everything because I was building up to softing that I was the skeleton dude and chose him as my townmark, hence me telling everyone not to vote him. But lololMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:12 pmTbh, I thought Scotty was the other PR based on his reaction to Lime Coke, but that theory was wrong.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:37 pm Lime Coke is nowhere to be found! Lime Coke was the Bloodsealer's Skeletal!
Dizzy also never appeared the following morning. Dizzy was the Bloodsealer!
You have 48 hours to deliberate and find who did this! End of Day will be an hour later than normal because of my own awareness issues. Poll should be good to go now. Remember votes are locked and hammer is at 5. I will only count the first vote in the thread, but please have your vote in the poll match.
I thought this post was Lime Coke trying to signal to Scotty that he knew what Scotty was, and Scotty's response was one coming from the The Bloodsealer acknowledging it.Spoiler: show
But at least now I don't have to pretend like that's the case, now that this game is almost mountainous.
I appreciate that you are admitting your supposition that his mark was me. I think I believe you
KMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:26 pm Still on board with nutella, Syn, SVS town. Falcon to a lesser extent.
Thunal is a huge blind spot to me, mainly because we've had zero live interactions, so she's a priority reread for me today when I get the chance.
Epi and Rico have moved into my basement and I'm ready to start charging rent.
Scotty I'm still wary of for the LC read, but I think in the end he's probably just town.
We only have two mischops left, so we need a correct POE of four players at this point.
He didn't have any good reasoning to couple with his vote, I think if he was town he'd be more likely to just admit that.Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:27 pmis it? it had no effect on anything and could just be someone scrambling to make a vote before EODMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:20 pm As for Ricochet, I'd definitely consider him for a vote today. I don't think it's a stretch to say that his vote at the deadline was uninspiring. It's one thing to make an uninformed vote, or a hasty vote, but he seemed to try to force reasoning into it when he had none to give, which is kinda wolfy.
unlikely Rico would have any awareness at all about vote locking or the hullabaloo around consolidating votes
Ture. But if not now, then when?Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:28 pmKMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:26 pm Still on board with nutella, Syn, SVS town. Falcon to a lesser extent.
Thunal is a huge blind spot to me, mainly because we've had zero live interactions, so she's a priority reread for me today when I get the chance.
Epi and Rico have moved into my basement and I'm ready to start charging rent.
Scotty I'm still wary of for the LC read, but I think in the end he's probably just town.
We only have two mischops left, so we need a correct POE of four players at this point.
Well
I don’t think we should ever yeet Rico today. We need to find his partner first if he is bad, and he needs to participate. If he goes and he is town…well…we might as well be throwing the baby water out with the bathtub, as they say
I don't see it tbhMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:12 pmTbh, I thought Scotty was the other PR based on his reaction to Lime Coke, but that theory was wrong.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:37 pm Lime Coke is nowhere to be found! Lime Coke was the Bloodsealer's Skeletal!
Dizzy also never appeared the following morning. Dizzy was the Bloodsealer!
You have 48 hours to deliberate and find who did this! End of Day will be an hour later than normal because of my own awareness issues. Poll should be good to go now. Remember votes are locked and hammer is at 5. I will only count the first vote in the thread, but please have your vote in the poll match.
I thought this post was Lime Coke trying to signal to Scotty that he knew what Scotty was, and Scotty's response was one coming from the The Bloodsealer acknowledging it.Spoiler: show
But at least now I don't have to pretend like that's the case, now that this game is almost mountainous.
it is unlikely an empty slot will be allowed to remain empty all the way to LYLOMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:33 pmTure. But if not now, then when?Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:28 pmKMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:26 pm Still on board with nutella, Syn, SVS town. Falcon to a lesser extent.
Thunal is a huge blind spot to me, mainly because we've had zero live interactions, so she's a priority reread for me today when I get the chance.
Epi and Rico have moved into my basement and I'm ready to start charging rent.
Scotty I'm still wary of for the LC read, but I think in the end he's probably just town.
We only have two mischops left, so we need a correct POE of four players at this point.
Well
I don’t think we should ever yeet Rico today. We need to find his partner first if he is bad, and he needs to participate. If he goes and he is town…well…we might as well be throwing the baby water out with the bathtub, as they say
I agree with the general reasoning, and I think it most applies Day 1. But it also isn't a slot I would feel comfortable hinging the game in LYLO on chopping, if the level of activity keeps up.
Also I'm not saying that we should chop him today, I'm just saying I'm now open to the possibility, whereas yesterday I wasn't.
It appeared to me that Lime Coke was trending toward a townread of Scotty from prior observations, so this 50/50 comment just seemed like a weird conclusion, and I thought that was what he was going for.Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:50 pmI don't see it tbhMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:12 pmTbh, I thought Scotty was the other PR based on his reaction to Lime Coke, but that theory was wrong.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:37 pm Lime Coke is nowhere to be found! Lime Coke was the Bloodsealer's Skeletal!
Dizzy also never appeared the following morning. Dizzy was the Bloodsealer!
You have 48 hours to deliberate and find who did this! End of Day will be an hour later than normal because of my own awareness issues. Poll should be good to go now. Remember votes are locked and hammer is at 5. I will only count the first vote in the thread, but please have your vote in the poll match.
I thought this post was Lime Coke trying to signal to Scotty that he knew what Scotty was, and Scotty's response was one coming from the The Bloodsealer acknowledging it.Spoiler: show
But at least now I don't have to pretend like that's the case, now that this game is almost mountainous.
That's not what I'm saying we should do today. I think Rico made a wolfy post so I'm open to it now.Syn wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:54 pmit is unlikely an empty slot will be allowed to remain empty all the way to LYLOMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:33 pmTure. But if not now, then when?Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:28 pmKMarmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:26 pm Still on board with nutella, Syn, SVS town. Falcon to a lesser extent.
Thunal is a huge blind spot to me, mainly because we've had zero live interactions, so she's a priority reread for me today when I get the chance.
Epi and Rico have moved into my basement and I'm ready to start charging rent.
Scotty I'm still wary of for the LC read, but I think in the end he's probably just town.
We only have two mischops left, so we need a correct POE of four players at this point.
Well
I don’t think we should ever yeet Rico today. We need to find his partner first if he is bad, and he needs to participate. If he goes and he is town…well…we might as well be throwing the baby water out with the bathtub, as they say
I agree with the general reasoning, and I think it most applies Day 1. But it also isn't a slot I would feel comfortable hinging the game in LYLO on chopping, if the level of activity keeps up.
Also I'm not saying that we should chop him today, I'm just saying I'm now open to the possibility, whereas yesterday I wasn't.
this insistence by multiple players to just phone it in and chop someone who isn't even playing is really quite baffling. surely we are capable of better
This isn't a good look for you because I don't really believe that you believed I was the bloodsealer. I thought it was Dizzy and realized it close to EoD, but after I looked through LC's ISO I thought it was clear. He had Dizzy as his top townread for "reasons" when he tried to explain it.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:54 pmI mean it didn’t really matter when it comes to my vote tbh, since I had already voted marmot at that point.
LC shielding Thunal was so left field that it really made me think thunal was the bloodsealer.
Now without LC to shield her I’m…I guess…even more tunneled on her being bad
Why are you so interested in discussing this if he's off the table for you today (pending a volume/player change)? Why does it seem unlikely to you that inactivity is an AI facet of his play?
I was doing a lot of ISO reading near EoD to find a vote, and on reread I wasn't as confident in Seanzie being town as I was before, but Marmot's more recent posts looked good. I had limited posts and limited time so I couldn't respond to every question or detail my whole progression. I wanted to be right over showing my work in the thread.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:19 pmHow’s that ‘clearing’ coming?One of thunal’s random questions. Syn answered but Thunal didn’t seem to do anything with his answer.
Hmmmm
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Yo, check this progression:That’s the progression of someone that casts a wide net and doesn’t actually care who goes.
Marmot slightly good look > will not vote 5 names including Seanzie > voting Seanzie over marmot.
I think she forgot who she actually suspected.
For me I changed quite a bit in my head, even more so than in the thread. I had tinfoil on you, Scotty, Nutella, and Seanzie but with everyone but Seanzie I put it away because I thought you three looked good on reread.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:50 pm I don't recall my reads between sessions of posting in the thread either. Some yes, but I often have to ISO myself to see what I previously thought (which is one of the reason I like to show my work in the thread)
I was thinking the same thing earlier when Scotty mentioned that, but I don't think it's AI.
Au contrair monfrauThunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:34 pmThis isn't a good look for you because I don't really believe that you believed I was the bloodsealer. I thought it was Dizzy and realized it close to EoD, but after I looked through LC's ISO I thought it was clear. He had Dizzy as his top townread for "reasons" when he tried to explain it.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:54 pmI mean it didn’t really matter when it comes to my vote tbh, since I had already voted marmot at that point.
LC shielding Thunal was so left field that it really made me think thunal was the bloodsealer.
Now without LC to shield her I’m…I guess…even more tunneled on her being bad
It's easier for a wolf to think "oh crap, maybe I'm pushing a power role" and be paranoid about that than it is for a townie, since a wolf already knows their push is town. If you're town, you believed I was a wolf but still backed off because LC was townreading me even though he was townreading Dizzy twice as hard for no reason? From the mindset of a townie who confidently believes I'm a wolf, thinking "wait, maybe she's a power role" would not be the first thing that comes to mind.
Did you think I was a power role when you made this post?Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:19 pmWhat/who even was this a response to?
Based on derpvibes, I wanna give Epi a pass. Based on variablevibes, Epi is definitely capable of doing this as mafia.
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Falcon’s entrance seems fine enough. The two lowest posters just outright voting without apparently reading the rules is mighty…coincidental tho.
I will drop both into my teetering scumlean but not in my scumreads. I think they both share equity of being partners with each other for this shtick if it’s really a shtick. It might just be derp. Will avoid D1.
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I like Sean’s solving after he answered my question. I feel better on him atm. His rainbow, while not exactly sharing the same scumreads, is close with the townreads. Leantown
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SVS had a tone in her recent posts that are playful and also inquisitive that I associate with town SVS. There are other things that I feel like I would have seen that would spell bad SVS that I have not seen, so svs is upper Townlean
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nutella- I have liked her vibes but the way she is reacting to certain reads comes off as faux indignation at times. She’s a tough nut to crack but I’m actually putting her into scumlean atm.
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Thunal continues to exhibit fringe behavior. When I say fringe, it’s just in the middle. She hasn’t taken many strong stances from my observation, and I feel has overexplained her feelings in some cases.
I also acknowledge that she is very calmly continuing to post thoughts and not go into defensive mode, which is probably??? something a town would be doing in this case.this quote oozes ‘come on fellow town, let’s pull it together!’ While slapping everyone’s butt as we go into the cricket pitch or what have you
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:44 pmWhy are you so interested in discussing this if he's off the table for you today (pending a volume/player change)? Why does it seem unlikely to you that inactivity is an AI facet of his play?
I've already explained what about him I think is wolfy and it isn't from activity.
because I was already forced once to act in opposition to pushing rico's slot and I don't feel like doing it again, especially if it happens near EOD like it did the first time
Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:00 pmAu contrair monfrauThunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:34 pmThis isn't a good look for you because I don't really believe that you believed I was the bloodsealer. I thought it was Dizzy and realized it close to EoD, but after I looked through LC's ISO I thought it was clear. He had Dizzy as his top townread for "reasons" when he tried to explain it.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 6:54 pmI mean it didn’t really matter when it comes to my vote tbh, since I had already voted marmot at that point.
LC shielding Thunal was so left field that it really made me think thunal was the bloodsealer.
Now without LC to shield her I’m…I guess…even more tunneled on her being bad
It's easier for a wolf to think "oh crap, maybe I'm pushing a power role" and be paranoid about that than it is for a townie, since a wolf already knows their push is town. If you're town, you believed I was a wolf but still backed off because LC was townreading me even though he was townreading Dizzy twice as hard for no reason? From the mindset of a townie who confidently believes I'm a wolf, thinking "wait, maybe she's a power role" would not be the first thing that comes to mind.
LC made no real lead up to town read too, and then lumped you into the ‘donotkill’ list, hence me thinking he did so for a reason. I didn’t see him townreading dizzy twice as hard as you say, probably because I was a bit tunneled on you.
I think you’re purposefully finding kernels in crackers to try and discredit the witness.
Which is me. I’m the witness
This is what I'm talking about. LC always had Dizzy at the top of his townreads, and when asked to explain gave "reasons".Lime Coke wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:12 pm Dizzy - Reasons
Syn - Appears to be loose and is giving off reads in a way that I feel is towny.
Thunal - Liked how she's gotten reads, posts liked #91 because of the description of the read given to Syn that I wasn't able to put into words myself.
Nutella - Is getting reads, specifically scumreads, in a way that I'm used to seeing her get where it basically snowballs.
Scotty - Kind of already explained it.
Marmot - Responses to suspicion all around him feel fine.
@Dyslexicon
You didn't vote me because LC was shielding me, but you had no problem voting Dizzy who LC was also shielding in the same post. If you just wanted LC's strong townreads to be off limits that makes sense, but that's not what you wanted. I feel like if there are two people you think could be the bloodsealer, if you were town you probably wouldn't think it was the one you thought was a wolf all day.Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 2:55 pmLaughable that you could clear anyone
If LC wasn’t shielding you I would have voted you.
I still think you’re bad.
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Marmot could be good. Their response is not terrible, but they’re also just a scumlean to me atm. I don’t regret voting for them.
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Dizzy is an enigma. Syn calling dizzy a top town read is laughable. Dizzy is rather despondent. Epi called him mean, which equates to, as dizzy describes, bluntness. But I see the opposite. He’s a bit aloof and isn’t ruffling any feathers. Blendy, not pushing the envelope. I support a dizzy vote if the rest of y’all with votes remaining choose to go there
Would you say you are polarized enough that you would never forget to explain a progression or even forget that you had a specific suspicion?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:47 pmI was doing a lot of ISO reading near EoD to find a vote, and on reread I wasn't as confident in Seanzie being town as I was before, but Marmot's more recent posts looked good. I had limited posts and limited time so I couldn't respond to every question or detail my whole progression. I wanted to be right over showing my work in the thread.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:19 pmHow’s that ‘clearing’ coming?One of thunal’s random questions. Syn answered but Thunal didn’t seem to do anything with his answer.
Hmmmm
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Yo, check this progression:That’s the progression of someone that casts a wide net and doesn’t actually care who goes.
Marmot slightly good look > will not vote 5 names including Seanzie > voting Seanzie over marmot.
I think she forgot who she actually suspected.
Also, "forgot who I actually suspected?" I didn't, but I also wouldn't as a wolf. It's actually towny for me since I make more 180s and have random thoughts about my reads while as a wolf I care more about having a progression that looks good.
Nope. Let me pull up exactly when that wasThunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:01 pmDid you think I was a power role when you made this post?Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:19 pmWhat/who even was this a response to?
Based on derpvibes, I wanna give Epi a pass. Based on variablevibes, Epi is definitely capable of doing this as mafia.
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Falcon’s entrance seems fine enough. The two lowest posters just outright voting without apparently reading the rules is mighty…coincidental tho.
I will drop both into my teetering scumlean but not in my scumreads. I think they both share equity of being partners with each other for this shtick if it’s really a shtick. It might just be derp. Will avoid D1.
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I like Sean’s solving after he answered my question. I feel better on him atm. His rainbow, while not exactly sharing the same scumreads, is close with the townreads. Leantown
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SVS had a tone in her recent posts that are playful and also inquisitive that I associate with town SVS. There are other things that I feel like I would have seen that would spell bad SVS that I have not seen, so svs is upper Townlean
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nutella- I have liked her vibes but the way she is reacting to certain reads comes off as faux indignation at times. She’s a tough nut to crack but I’m actually putting her into scumlean atm.
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Thunal continues to exhibit fringe behavior. When I say fringe, it’s just in the middle. She hasn’t taken many strong stances from my observation, and I feel has overexplained her feelings in some cases.
I also acknowledge that she is very calmly continuing to post thoughts and not go into defensive mode, which is probably??? something a town would be doing in this case.this quote oozes ‘come on fellow town, let’s pull it together!’ While slapping everyone’s butt as we go into the cricket pitch or what have you
No, but I think I do it more often as town than as wolf.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:17 pmWould you say you are polarized enough that you would never forget to explain a progression or even forget that you had a specific suspicion?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:47 pmI was doing a lot of ISO reading near EoD to find a vote, and on reread I wasn't as confident in Seanzie being town as I was before, but Marmot's more recent posts looked good. I had limited posts and limited time so I couldn't respond to every question or detail my whole progression. I wanted to be right over showing my work in the thread.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:19 pmHow’s that ‘clearing’ coming?One of thunal’s random questions. Syn answered but Thunal didn’t seem to do anything with his answer.
Hmmmm
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Yo, check this progression:That’s the progression of someone that casts a wide net and doesn’t actually care who goes.
Marmot slightly good look > will not vote 5 names including Seanzie > voting Seanzie over marmot.
I think she forgot who she actually suspected.
Also, "forgot who I actually suspected?" I didn't, but I also wouldn't as a wolf. It's actually towny for me since I make more 180s and have random thoughts about my reads while as a wolf I care more about having a progression that looks good.
@Thunal33 this was the moment
This is my smug lawyer cross examination moment:Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:20 pmNo, but I think I do it more often as town than as wolf.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:17 pmWould you say you are polarized enough that you would never forget to explain a progression or even forget that you had a specific suspicion?Thunal33 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 8:47 pmI was doing a lot of ISO reading near EoD to find a vote, and on reread I wasn't as confident in Seanzie being town as I was before, but Marmot's more recent posts looked good. I had limited posts and limited time so I couldn't respond to every question or detail my whole progression. I wanted to be right over showing my work in the thread.Scotty wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:19 pmHow’s that ‘clearing’ coming?One of thunal’s random questions. Syn answered but Thunal didn’t seem to do anything with his answer.
Hmmmm
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Yo, check this progression:That’s the progression of someone that casts a wide net and doesn’t actually care who goes.
Marmot slightly good look > will not vote 5 names including Seanzie > voting Seanzie over marmot.
I think she forgot who she actually suspected.
Also, "forgot who I actually suspected?" I didn't, but I also wouldn't as a wolf. It's actually towny for me since I make more 180s and have random thoughts about my reads while as a wolf I care more about having a progression that looks good.
AHAHAHAHAHAJA that was actually an autocorrect and how appetizer
ugh
This feels very consistent with your defense against Scotty right now, in that you're making a similar argument for how I'm town and for how you're town. Namely that wolves like progressions and that you're saying you and I didn't do that.
I think we’re just talking around each other
It's just something I think is generally town indicative for most people.Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Aug 09, 2023 9:30 pmThis feels very consistent with your defense against Scotty right now, in that you're making a similar argument for how I'm town and for how you're town. Namely that wolves like progressions and that you're saying you and I didn't do that.
It feels weird. I don't know if I can put my finger on why, it might be that I'm worried you're arguing for v!me in order to support an argument for v!Thunal (especially after I flip town), which itself is pretty wolfy.