The Syndicate

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 5:43 pm Sheeping dunya

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:04 am Nicol town lean for explaining the rules in a very responsible manner. Clearly he has his GED.


Scum lean for Kylemii for adding confusion and silliness to the answers of his questions. Feels like he wants there to be a certain chaos surrounding things ATM

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:13 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:58 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:57 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:52 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:48 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:43 pm Also, i wolf read everyone that hinted at getting me yeeted for my playstyle, sounds like you knew i was widely townread and you were looking to get a wagon built on me under the pretense of a policy lynch.

You think not liking a gimmick is scummy behaviour lol

Yes! It is! Scummy or anti-town behavior. So you'd be willing to yeet someone for disliking a gimmick who could potentially be say a doctor, or a cop or a vig? You didnt think, well it's his playstyle but he maybe town with an important role to us?

Let's yeet him because im intolerant!

Either that! Or you were looking to build a wagon under the pretense of a policy lynch on an obvious townie player.

I never said that. I just found the pictures annoying and it was flooding the thread

You didnt have to say it. Behavior says it all. I find a lot of things annoying in players! Not for that im gonna yeet them! This game is not about killing the people that annoys you, it's about killing the people you scum read. Wanna kill players that annoy you. You play fortnite! That game is full of annoying pricks.

Your gimmick, however, was directly a mask that obfuscated attempts to read you. I can understand why it would be viewed with suspicion.

I noted that he dropped the gimmick once a few votes got tossed onto him.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:59 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:42 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:40 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:29 am [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

don't think he found kyle's post genuinely "chaotic". feels stifling to me and calling questions in a complex setup silly is -----

I clearly stated the exact posts that I thought added a chaotic nature to the game and were in no way related to adding clarity to the complexity of the game, and you ignoring that fact is bothersome. You're weaving a false narrative.

i saw them and disagree with you

no question is silly and he went to the effort to summarize the rules first and asked questions about things he still had ???? about.

false narrative is you calling questions "chaotic"

you may have experience with mtg but as someone with 0 previous experience the whole setup is chaotic to me.

Again, the questions weren't the chaos, it's the response to the answers. He doesn't ask questions in the posts I mentioned. false. narrative. you. weave.


You can disagree with my reads of his responses, that's fine. But you're framing them to be something they're not, and that's not cool yo

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:47 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:04 am Nicol town lean for explaining the rules in a very responsible manner. Clearly he has his GED.


Scum lean for Kylemii for adding confusion and silliness to the answers of his questions. Feels like he wants there to be a certain chaos surrounding things ATM

Pardon me, but what is the baseline expectation for the level of order in the thread?

Because I'm a civilian, and I want a shit ton of chaos in the thread.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:53 pm I am glad I don't have to solve any teddy bear puzzles (not that I ever started, heh), but Guillotine's "let's burn this mother down" approach after that brief period of frustration strikes me as genuine rather than manufactured. I haven't read the posts carefully, but I think I would have words to say in chat if my teammate spiraled like that.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:35 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:17 pm I pity the fool.

Still haven't got around to doing my ISO eh? You sum beach

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:47 pm falcon, you've made a bunch of jabs and that's fine.

Unfortunately many of them don't go anywhere. For example:

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:13 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:58 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:57 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:54 pm

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:52 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 12:48 pm

You think not liking a gimmick is scummy behaviour lol

Yes! It is! Scummy or anti-town behavior. So you'd be willing to yeet someone for disliking a gimmick who could potentially be say a doctor, or a cop or a vig? You didnt think, well it's his playstyle but he maybe town with an important role to us?

Let's yeet him because im intolerant!

Either that! Or you were looking to build a wagon under the pretense of a policy lynch on an obvious townie player.

I never said that. I just found the pictures annoying and it was flooding the thread

You didnt have to say it. Behavior says it all. I find a lot of things annoying in players! Not for that im gonna yeet them! This game is not about killing the people that annoys you, it's about killing the people you scum read. Wanna kill players that annoy you. You play fortnite! That game is full of annoying pricks.

Your gimmick, however, was directly a mask that obfuscated attempts to read you. I can understand why it would be viewed with suspicion.

I noted that he dropped the gimmick once a few votes got tossed onto him.

Great. What does this say about Guillotine's alignment?

(I see dunya had to press you for this and it took a five paragraph essay to arrive at your response)

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:59 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:42 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 11:40 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:29 am [VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

don't think he found kyle's post genuinely "chaotic". feels stifling to me and calling questions in a complex setup silly is -----

I clearly stated the exact posts that I thought added a chaotic nature to the game and were in no way related to adding clarity to the complexity of the game, and you ignoring that fact is bothersome. You're weaving a false narrative.

i saw them and disagree with you

no question is silly and he went to the effort to summarize the rules first and asked questions about things he still had ???? about.

false narrative is you calling questions "chaotic"

you may have experience with mtg but as someone with 0 previous experience the whole setup is chaotic to me.

Again, the questions weren't the chaos, it's the response to the answers. He doesn't ask questions in the posts I mentioned. false. narrative. you. weave.


You can disagree with my reads of his responses, that's fine. But you're framing them to be something they're not, and that's not cool yo

If dunya is weaving a false narrative, then what is her intention? How does this affect your view of her alignment?

We don't know.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 7:15 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:35 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 4:17 pm I pity the fool.

Still haven't got around to doing my ISO eh? You sum beach

I did read your iso, only took me 27 seconds.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:18 pm @Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:18 pm @Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:01 pm People I won't be voting for today:

dunya
Guillotine
Marmot
Kylemii

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:48 pmhello fwens

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:01 pm People I won't be voting for today:

dunya
Guillotine
Marmot
Kylemii

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:34 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Mar 06, 2021 10:28 pm We can't publicly give too much mana out:



The mafia has a way to punish us for that.

Town lean for pointing this out

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:04 am Nicol town lean for explaining the rules in a very responsible manner. Clearly he has his GED.


Scum lean for Kylemii for adding confusion and silliness to the answers of his questions. Feels like he wants there to be a certain chaos surrounding things ATM

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:29 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:01 pm People I won't be voting for today:

dunya
Guillotine
Marmot
Kylemii

add me to the list and you got a full basketball squad

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:32 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:29 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:01 pm People I won't be voting for today:

dunya
Guillotine
Marmot
Kylemii

add me to the list and you got a full basketball squad

Guess who else made the team!!!

Spoiler: show

Tutuu

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:20 pm When did Kyle have 80 posts in the thread? I don't remember any of them. Heck, he doesn't remember them either.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:20 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:48 pmhello fwens

I demand reads.

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:18 pm @Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:19 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:01 pm People I won't be voting for today:

dunya
Guillotine
Marmot
Kylemii

I agree with this list.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:20 pm When did Kyle have 80 posts in the thread? I don't remember any of them. Heck, he doesn't remember them either.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:41 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:19 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:01 pm People I won't be voting for today:

dunya
Guillotine
Marmot
Kylemii

I agree with this list.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:20 pm When did Kyle have 80 posts in the thread? I don't remember any of them. Heck, he doesn't remember them either.

Agrees with a town list thats has a player of whose posting he doesn't remember?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:18 pm @Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?

basically nothing has changed. the fact that he's done absolutely nothing with his read reinforces that it's something he doesn't truly believe in. he hasn't followed up on it at all nor has he tried to convince any other people of it's validity, nor has he asked any follow up questions or even voted for me as he would if it was meant as a townie prod.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:44 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:18 pm @Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?

basically nothing has changed. the fact that he's done absolutely nothing with his read reinforces that it's something he doesn't truly believe in. he hasn't followed up on it at all nor has he tried to convince any other people of it's validity, nor has he asked any follow up questions or even voted for me as he would if it was meant as a townie prod.

You're a dum dum head if you don't think me explaining my read on you to several different players isn't proof of my belief in its validity.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:44 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:18 pm @Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?

basically nothing has changed. the fact that he's done absolutely nothing with his read reinforces that it's something he doesn't truly believe in. he hasn't followed up on it at all nor has he tried to convince any other people of it's validity, nor has he asked any follow up questions or even voted for me as he would if it was meant as a townie prod.

You're a dum dum head if you don't think me explaining my read on you to several different players isn't proof of my belief in its validity.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:40 pm oh, tldr, what's going on with ted?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am so punish the fool seems like a pretty punishing ability for our team.

the best we can probably do is to make scum play whack-a-mole. we all need mana for something...

fix suggestion : everyone should ask for the mana they need (and that's it - just ask for the mana, don't say what it's for or that it needs priority, etc etc), irregardless of how good or bad their ability is.

loop holes : the mafia will target strong people this way, so we're a bit forced to spread the cards to someone they don't need dead. (PoEish targets that can reasonably be town)

my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather? so let's not try to get caught up in an ability that takes quite a bit to use anyway.

thoughts / concerns about this?

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:16 am

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:34 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:29 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am so punish the fool seems like a pretty punishing ability for our team.

the best we can probably do is to make scum play whack-a-mole. we all need mana for something...

fix suggestion : everyone should ask for the mana they need (and that's it - just ask for the mana, don't say what it's for or that it needs priority, etc etc), irregardless of how good or bad their ability is.

loop holes : the mafia will target strong people this way, so we're a bit forced to spread the cards to someone they don't need dead. (PoEish targets that can reasonably be town)

my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather? so let's not try to get caught up in an ability that takes quite a bit to use anyway.

thoughts / concerns about this?

I don't think that 3 mana is tough to gather. I can produce that much mana in a night. I don't know how many lands you have, but I have three. If that's standard, then this is probably somewhere near equivalent to a wolf giving up their personal ability in order to use Punish The Fool.

Actually, this kind of reads like ted is a wolf with 3 lands who thinks that townies start with fewer.
Why would a townie ever say "3 mana is a bit tough to gather" here?

i didn’t think all lands tap at the same time at the time of this post, but i don’t see how the fact that it could be used every time changes anything.

assuming mafia have decent roles to use, we’d be forcing them to swap over to using that ability and take a gamble anyway

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:13 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:29 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 3:15 am so punish the fool seems like a pretty punishing ability for our team.

the best we can probably do is to make scum play whack-a-mole. we all need mana for something...

fix suggestion : everyone should ask for the mana they need (and that's it - just ask for the mana, don't say what it's for or that it needs priority, etc etc), irregardless of how good or bad their ability is.

loop holes : the mafia will target strong people this way, so we're a bit forced to spread the cards to someone they don't need dead. (PoEish targets that can reasonably be town)

my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather? so let's not try to get caught up in an ability that takes quite a bit to use anyway.

thoughts / concerns about this?

I don't think that 3 mana is tough to gather. I can produce that much mana in a night. I don't know how many lands you have, but I have three. If that's standard, then this is probably somewhere near equivalent to a wolf giving up their personal ability in order to use Punish The Fool.

that was more my point, i assume they won’t use it every time.

unless their roles are pretty terrible

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:56 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:44 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:18 pm @Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?

basically nothing has changed. the fact that he's done absolutely nothing with his read reinforces that it's something he doesn't truly believe in. he hasn't followed up on it at all nor has he tried to convince any other people of it's validity, nor has he asked any follow up questions or even voted for me as he would if it was meant as a townie prod.

You're a dum dum head if you don't think me explaining my read on you to several different players isn't proof of my belief in its validity.

i don't think anything you could say or do could prove that you authentically believe that asking questions and joking about the answers is 'creating chaos' because it's a ludicrous statement to begin with, and it's a statement that you haven't even really explained yet.

but also defending yourself against dunya does nothing to do create pressure against me, and also you're not even voting for me, you're also not even voting for me? what do you hope to learn like that?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:48 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:44 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:18 pm @Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?

basically nothing has changed. the fact that he's done absolutely nothing with his read reinforces that it's something he doesn't truly believe in. he hasn't followed up on it at all nor has he tried to convince any other people of it's validity, nor has he asked any follow up questions or even voted for me as he would if it was meant as a townie prod.

You're a dum dum head if you don't think me explaining my read on you to several different players isn't proof of my belief in its validity.

Is Kyle dumb or is he mafia?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:56 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:44 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:32 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:18 pm @Kylemii have you read falcon today? has your opinion on how he interacted with you felt the same?

basically nothing has changed. the fact that he's done absolutely nothing with his read reinforces that it's something he doesn't truly believe in. he hasn't followed up on it at all nor has he tried to convince any other people of it's validity, nor has he asked any follow up questions or even voted for me as he would if it was meant as a townie prod.

You're a dum dum head if you don't think me explaining my read on you to several different players isn't proof of my belief in its validity.

i don't think anything you could say or do could prove that you authentically believe that asking questions and joking about the answers is 'creating chaos' because it's a ludicrous statement to begin with, and it's a statement that you haven't even really explained yet.

but also defending yourself against dunya does nothing to do create pressure against me, and also you're not even voting for me, you're also not even voting for me? what do you hope to learn like that?