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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:51 pm
by hollowkatt
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:47 pm
That said... I didn't think hk was being serious about his vote for me, nor do I think he's being serious about his vote for you esooa (unless he previously had reason to suspect you)

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:52 pm
by Samusamu
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:43 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:30 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:28 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:38 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:15 am
Seanzie & Gavial are top scum for me.
[VOTE:
VOTE SEANZIE] aubergine
Care to elaborate?
I found his approach to Samu's & I the most opphrtunistic
Yet Samu and Me seemed to bother you more at that time.
I'm town and my reads change as the game progresses. Why do you seem intent on keeping it in the past?
And your reads til the moment are?
You, LC & I are town reads.
Gav & Seanzie are scum reads.
Lotta null beyond that
How many time have you been playing mafia?
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:53 pm
by hollowkatt
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:57 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:38 pm
where I'm at:
town
Gavail
Marmot
Sam
leans town
Doom
Esooa
everyone else is some flavor of POE or another, or I'm not paying attention
You have Marmot pretty high, (I did as well but with more going up he went down and the read wasn’t that strong to begin with) so what’s your reasoning for Marmot?
I don't think wolf marmot asks me what would get him wolf read, do half of it (poorly), and then say "HKs vote on me wasn't serious and neither is his vote on Esooa"
Also he's a warm fuzzy mammal and that's nice too
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:53 pm
by falcon45ca
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:52 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:43 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:30 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:28 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:38 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:10 pm
Care to elaborate?
I found his approach to Samu's & I the most opphrtunistic
Yet Samu and Me seemed to bother you more at that time.
I'm town and my reads change as the game progresses. Why do you seem intent on keeping it in the past?
And your reads til the moment are?
You, LC & I are town reads.
Gav & Seanzie are scum reads.
Lotta null beyond that
How many time have you been playing mafia?
This is my 2nd time
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:53 pm
by BoKnows
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:03 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:24 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:22 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:20 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:58 am
@BoKnows if u are town i need to now before eod where u gonna put your vote.
give me a few. hungover
Before you do, I want you to think about your read on Falcon and then share it with the class.
last I've seen falcon is in his scum range
saying someone is in their scumrange isn't exactly a read. Do you think he is scum, or no?
Going to check his ISO and get back to you
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:28 pm
we could just chop alison
No
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:54 pm
by BoKnows
I just read the thread from pg. 13 to now. I'm retracting my statement on Alison
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:54 pm
by falcon45ca
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:47 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:43 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:30 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:28 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:38 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:10 pm
Care to elaborate?
I found his approach to Samu's & I the most opphrtunistic
Yet Samu and Me seemed to bother you more at that time.
I'm town and my reads change as the game progresses. Why do you seem intent on keeping it in the past?
And your reads til the moment are?
You, LC & I are town reads.
Gav & Seanzie are scum reads.
Lotta null beyond that
Are all your reads based on that one interaction? You claim that your reads change as the game progresses, but I don't really see any evidence of that. Have you read the full thread?
I have not
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:57 pm
by Marmot
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:53 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:03 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:24 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:22 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:20 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 11:58 am
@BoKnows if u are town i need to now before eod where u gonna put your vote.
give me a few. hungover
Before you do, I want you to think about your read on Falcon and then share it with the class.
last I've seen falcon is in his scum range
saying someone is in their scumrange isn't exactly a read. Do you think he is scum, or no?
Going to check his ISO and get back to you
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:28 pm
we could just chop alison
No
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:54 pm
I just read the thread from pg. 13 to now. I'm retracting my statement on Alison
I'm confused by these two posts. Why did you said No, then 40 seconds, say you've read the last 3 pages and changed your mind?
Or was there another statement somewhere?
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:57 pm
by Marmot
3 pages in 40 seconds is like falcon speed of reading
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:58 pm
by BoKnows
Alison - Null
Doom - Null
Esooa - Town
Falcon - Scum
Gavial - Scum
Hollowkatt - Town
JessieKruger - Null
Long Con - Null
Marmot - Mixed feelings
Samusamu - Town
Seanzie - Town
Tsp - Null
Urist - Town
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:58 pm
by hollowkatt
Elanor Woodheads Sped Redding Course
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:59 pm
by Samusamu
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:43 pm
Samusamu wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:30 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:28 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:38 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:15 am
Seanzie & Gavial are top scum for me.
[VOTE:
VOTE SEANZIE] aubergine
Care to elaborate?
I found his approach to Samu's & I the most opphrtunistic
Yet Samu and Me seemed to bother you more at that time.
I'm town and my reads change as the game progresses. Why do you seem intent on keeping it in the past?
And your reads til the moment are?
You, LC & I are town reads.
Gav & Seanzie are scum reads.
Lotta null beyond that
How many time have u been playing mafia?
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:59 pm
by BoKnows
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:57 pm
3 pages in 40 seconds is like falcon speed of reading
the posts are backwards
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm
by Seanzie
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:49 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:40 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:15 am
Seanzie & Gavial are top scum for me.
[VOTE:
VOTE SEANZIE] aubergine
spicy
why are they top scum?
Both of their reactions to Samu & I
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:43 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:38 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:15 am
Seanzie & Gavial are top scum for me.
[VOTE:
VOTE SEANZIE] aubergine
Care to elaborate?
I found his approach to Samu's & I the most opphrtunistic
I'm taking sean out of my townreads. I was just reading through those posts again and I agree with this.
He didn't have a lot of conviction and I think it's because he was looking for an easy way to back out of the read.
soooo lets just murder seanz then
[VOTE:
seanzie] aubergine
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:50 pm
Alrirghty
[VOTE:
sean] aubergine
Wagonz!

Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm
by BoKnows
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:59 pm
Just gonna post some townreads for now while I'm catching up. I don't have any confident scumreads yet.
Strong town reads:
BK - This is nothing like his recent scum games.
Samu - his testing of falcon looked fine, it got the game rolling. He moved on from it too. He's interacting with people. I like his presence
Light town reads
Gavial - Taking up a lot of threadspace, but as-so-far, I find him less manipulative than I recall in Fallout. This is not a comprehensive read
Urist - Soul read
Seanzie - I'd like to see him enter the fray more, but his content, observations, and questions are similar to what I'd expect from him.
Omega - Similar to sean, I'd like to see her dig in more. That aside, she has more energy than she did as scum in Fallout Mafia, but her lack of energy there might not have been based solely on rolling mafia. Just a slight town lean here
TSP - Soul read
All other players I don't have reads on yet, so they are in a sense my poe.
Part of me thinks this is TMI spew
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm
by hollowkatt
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:58 pm
Alison - Null
Doom - Null
Esooa - Town
Falcon - Scum
Gavial - Scum
Hollowkatt - Town
JessieKruger - Null
Long Con - Null
Marmot - Mixed feelings
Samusamu - Town
Seanzie - Town
Tsp - Null
Urist - Town
Why so many nulls?
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:01 pm
by hollowkatt
and also how are you getting to scum on Gavial? / town on Seanzie?
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:02 pm
by Marmot
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:59 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:57 pm
3 pages in 40 seconds is like falcon speed of reading
the posts are backwards
What statement about Alison are you retracting?
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:02 pm
by Marmot
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:59 pm
Just gonna post some townreads for now while I'm catching up. I don't have any confident scumreads yet.
Strong town reads:
BK - This is nothing like his recent scum games.
Samu - his testing of falcon looked fine, it got the game rolling. He moved on from it too. He's interacting with people. I like his presence
Light town reads
Gavial - Taking up a lot of threadspace, but as-so-far, I find him less manipulative than I recall in Fallout. This is not a comprehensive read
Urist - Soul read
Seanzie - I'd like to see him enter the fray more, but his content, observations, and questions are similar to what I'd expect from him.
Omega - Similar to sean, I'd like to see her dig in more. That aside, she has more energy than she did as scum in Fallout Mafia, but her lack of energy there might not have been based solely on rolling mafia. Just a slight town lean here
TSP - Soul read
All other players I don't have reads on yet, so they are in a sense my poe.
Part of me thinks this is TMI spew
Why is this TMI?
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:04 pm
by BoKnows
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:47 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:43 pm
Where's your head at @BoKnows? I don't know where you stand on a lot of players. Afaik, you have a scumread of falcon and gavial, and a townread of sean.
Yeah I'm not too certain about falcon but Gavial just seems scummy to me. Sean is still giving me town vibes.
Alison's lack of presence is also worth noting IMO. I'm a few pages behind, I'll start skimming through them and give you a better answer.
@Marmot
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:04 pm
by BoKnows
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:02 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:59 pm
Just gonna post some townreads for now while I'm catching up. I don't have any confident scumreads yet.
Strong town reads:
BK - This is nothing like his recent scum games.
Samu - his testing of falcon looked fine, it got the game rolling. He moved on from it too. He's interacting with people. I like his presence
Light town reads
Gavial - Taking up a lot of threadspace, but as-so-far, I find him less manipulative than I recall in Fallout. This is not a comprehensive read
Urist - Soul read
Seanzie - I'd like to see him enter the fray more, but his content, observations, and questions are similar to what I'd expect from him.
Omega - Similar to sean, I'd like to see her dig in more. That aside, she has more energy than she did as scum in Fallout Mafia, but her lack of energy there might not have been based solely on rolling mafia. Just a slight town lean here
TSP - Soul read
All other players I don't have reads on yet, so they are in a sense my poe.
Part of me thinks this is TMI spew
Why is this TMI?
Seems like a silly reason to strong town read somebody.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:05 pm
by BoKnows
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:58 pm
Alison - Null
Doom - Null
Esooa - Town
Falcon - Scum
Gavial - Scum
Hollowkatt - Town
JessieKruger - Null
Long Con - Null
Marmot - Mixed feelings
Samusamu - Town
Seanzie - Town
Tsp - Null
Urist - Town
Why so many nulls?
Haven't read any or many of their posts to make a fair judgement.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:06 pm
by Esooa
[VOTE:
seanzie] aubergine
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:07 pm
by BoKnows
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:01 pm
and also how are you getting to scum on Gavial? / town on Seanzie?
Read something that Sean posted a while back and sounded super towny. Sean hasn't done anything to lose those feelings since then.
Gavial's reasoning on some of his reads are bleh. Plus I still think he likes to make something out of nothing.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:10 pm
by BoKnows
[VOTE:
Gavial] aubergine
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:11 pm
by BoKnows
Why is seanzie the lead wagon?
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:12 pm
by Gavial
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:07 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:04 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:23 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:16 pm
I will proceed by not voting myself because this game sucks
Top scumread if you please?
If you read their posts you would find out.
Now 2 people who don’t answer questions are DOOM and Alison so you should give them some.
This was a question for esooa. She did not answer the question.
Where in her iso does it say, "This person is my top scumread."?
What question did Alison not answer?
She also isn’t here yet and she stated her SR’s in her Readslist.
I don’t remember them but I remember that Me,Samu and Hollow are her top Town.
At this point I forgot but it’s like right after they accused me I asked them.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:12 pm
by Seanzie
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:11 pm
Why is seanzie the lead wagon?
They hate me because I'm beautiful.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:13 pm
by Marmot
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:04 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:02 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:00 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:59 pm
Just gonna post some townreads for now while I'm catching up. I don't have any confident scumreads yet.
Strong town reads:
BK - This is nothing like his recent scum games.
Samu - his testing of falcon looked fine, it got the game rolling. He moved on from it too. He's interacting with people. I like his presence
Light town reads
Gavial - Taking up a lot of threadspace, but as-so-far, I find him less manipulative than I recall in Fallout. This is not a comprehensive read
Urist - Soul read
Seanzie - I'd like to see him enter the fray more, but his content, observations, and questions are similar to what I'd expect from him.
Omega - Similar to sean, I'd like to see her dig in more. That aside, she has more energy than she did as scum in Fallout Mafia, but her lack of energy there might not have been based solely on rolling mafia. Just a slight town lean here
TSP - Soul read
All other players I don't have reads on yet, so they are in a sense my poe.
Part of me thinks this is TMI spew
Why is this TMI?
Seems like a silly reason to strong town read somebody.
You might find it weird, but that alone doesn't make it TMI. That said, I no longer feel that way.
Also, the statement you retracted was "Alison's lack of presence is also worth noting IMO". By retracting it, do you find it no longer noteworthy? I assume you had a read on her before and that's what you're retracting, but it isn't clear what it is.
I'm trying to figure out your thought process.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:14 pm
by Gavial
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:58 am
atm I scum read falcon/bk the most
bk just doesn't have great energy and I agree with Dooms point on him
falcon I usually have no struggle reading but this game I'm very bleh on him.
I haven't looked at these two much and I will probably ISO them before EoD but yeah.
if I had to add a third, probably marmot because he is doing nothing but it's more so nai
don't have a lot of scum reads atm which is why I was just voting and didn't really care
cause I was just following other people's votes to see what happens
@Marmot
Like this is only 2 pages down Bro.
I’d expect better from you, you were genuine now you just seem lazy and uncaring.
Your Null to me now
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:14 pm
by BoKnows
Her lack of presence is no longer noteworthy
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:14 pm
by Marmot
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:12 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:07 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:04 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:23 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:16 pm
I will proceed by not voting myself because this game sucks
Top scumread if you please?
If you read their posts you would find out.
Now 2 people who don’t answer questions are DOOM and Alison so you should give them some.
This was a question for esooa. She did not answer the question.
Where in her iso does it say, "This person is my top scumread."?
What question did Alison not answer?
She also isn’t here yet and she stated her SR’s in her Readslist.
I don’t remember them but I remember that Me,Samu and Hollow are her top Town.
At this point I forgot but it’s like right after they accused me I asked them.
What do you mean, esooa responded to that post directly, she most definitely was here.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:14 pm
by Gavial
You were genuine before*
My bad, said it wrong.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:17 pm
by Marmot
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:14 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:58 am
atm I scum read falcon/bk the most
bk just doesn't have great energy and I agree with Dooms point on him
falcon I usually have no struggle reading but this game I'm very bleh on him.
I haven't looked at these two much and I will probably ISO them before EoD but yeah.
if I had to add a third, probably marmot because he is doing nothing but it's more so nai
don't have a lot of scum reads atm which is why I was just voting and didn't really care
cause I was just following other people's votes to see what happens
@Marmot
Like this is only 2 pages down Bro.
I’d expect better from you, you were genuine now you just seem lazy and uncaring.
Your Null to me now
I asked for her top scumread because it wasn't clear to me, and she didn't answer the question. Yet I am now lazy and uncaring here? Why would I be put at a null read for that?
I don't at all understand your read of me right now.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:19 pm
by hollowkatt
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:11 pm
Why is seanzie the lead wagon?
cause he's kinda scummy
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:20 pm
by Marmot
[VOTE:
Gavial] aubergine
I think your read on me is bogus. I'm not playing this game to earn a townread from you, I'm trying to find the scum here.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:20 pm
by Seanzie
I'm kind of second guessing my Falcon read right now. He is unabashedly not caught up. I feel like if he was scum here with an (albiet small) wagon, he'd either make a point to be caught up or offer some sort of excuse for why he isn't caught up. Instead, he has given out-dated reads, and only when pressed did he admit he hasn't read the whole thread.
On the other hand, people like Esooa and HK have been vote jumping, seemingly testing the waters with their votes, trying to find what will stick. Coincidence that they both have somehow landed on me without any progression? I don't think either one has said a word about me all day.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:21 pm
by Gavial
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:28 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:38 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:15 am
Seanzie & Gavial are top scum for me.
[VOTE:
VOTE SEANZIE] aubergine
Care to elaborate?
I found his approach to Samu's & I the most opphrtunistic
Yet Samu and Me seemed to bother you more at that time.
I'm town and my reads change as the game progresses. Why do you seem intent on keeping it in the past?
Ok having the entire
Bolded in the same sentence is completely unnecessary and doesn’t at all seem genuine.
All I’m saying is if that’s your only issue it should have bothered you then and not later.
I intent on keeping it in the past because I refuse to allow potential theatre to slip by and I want to nullify it and pretend it never happened because I don’t want anyone falsely cleared from a 1on1 interaction like that. You and Samu need to be read individually.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:22 pm
by BoKnows
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:19 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:11 pm
Why is seanzie the lead wagon?
cause he's kinda scummy
boo
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:23 pm
by Marmot
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:20 pm
I'm kind of second guessing my Falcon read right now. He is unabashedly not caught up. I feel like if he was scum here with an (albiet small) wagon, he'd either make a point to be caught up or offer some sort of excuse for why he isn't caught up. Instead, he has given out-dated reads, and only when pressed did he admit he hasn't read the whole thread.
On the other hand, people like Esooa and HK have been vote jumping, seemingly testing the waters with their votes, trying to find what will stick. Coincidence that they both have somehow landed on me without any progression? I don't think either one has said a word about me all day.
I searched HK's ISO and you're right, he didn't mention a read of you until after his vote (and his vote looks like he's trying to start a wagon on you)
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:23 pm
by Gavial
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:50 pm
Alrirghty
[VOTE:
sean] aubergine
Yeah Marmot/BK/Falcon can never all be town.
I’m good with my Falcon vote.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:24 pm
by Gavial
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:58 pm
Alison - Null
Doom - Null
Esooa - Town
Falcon - Scum
Gavial - Scum
Hollowkatt - Town
JessieKruger - Null
Long Con - Null
Marmot - Mixed feelings
Samusamu - Town
Seanzie - Town
Tsp - Null
Urist - Town
Vote Falcon then so Sean doesn’t die.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:25 pm
by Gavial
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:06 pm
[VOTE:
seanzie] aubergine
Esooa trust me here and vote Falcon please.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:25 pm
by BoKnows
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:24 pm
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:58 pm
Alison - Null
Doom - Null
Esooa - Town
Falcon - Scum
Gavial - Scum
Hollowkatt - Town
JessieKruger - Null
Long Con - Null
Marmot - Mixed feelings
Samusamu - Town
Seanzie - Town
Tsp - Null
Urist - Town
Vote Falcon then so Sean doesn’t die.
Maybe
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:25 pm
by Gavial
Falcon is the best yeet informational wise I believe.
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:25 pm
by hollowkatt
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:23 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:20 pm
I'm kind of second guessing my Falcon read right now. He is unabashedly not caught up. I feel like if he was scum here with an (albiet small) wagon, he'd either make a point to be caught up or offer some sort of excuse for why he isn't caught up. Instead, he has given out-dated reads, and only when pressed did he admit he hasn't read the whole thread.
On the other hand, people like Esooa and HK have been vote jumping, seemingly testing the waters with their votes, trying to find what will stick. Coincidence that they both have somehow landed on me without any progression? I don't think either one has said a word about me all day.
I searched HK's ISO and you're right, he didn't mention a read of you until after his vote (and his vote looks like he's trying to start a wagon on you)
you mean I joined Esooa and Falcon on Seanzie right? Disingenuous much?
Re: Beelzebub The Benign
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:26 pm
by Marmot
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:55 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:42 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:31 pm
why not take votes seriously though?
I mean, votes should always be considered for their meaning. I think the word "serious" isn't quite right. Samu's vote didn't look at all like it was meant to contribute to a TK of Falcon, and rarely are early D1 votes meant in that way. Instead they are more used to generate content and reactions. Samu naked voted Falcon, and then when pressed, asked Falcon what he thinks of that. That vote looks "non-serious" to be in the sense that I don't really think Samu was thinking about TKing Falcon there. If Samu is town, it was a reaction test, and if he is scum, I don't think he would cast a vote meant to stay there this early in D1.
Doing reaction tests like that IMO is >rand town, and Falcon taking the vote seriously enough to OMGUS Samu I think is >rand scum.
basically there's a difference between "I intend to kill you with this vote" and "I wonder what happens if I vote you here". There's also "this vote is literally for laughs" but that category is generally really obvs.
Can see how ppl are getting to wolfy falcon off of that.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 12:16 am
ok thanks. I can see how he gets to "one of falcon, seanzie, samusamu is a wolf". Seems like that's a fairly reasonable stance to take. Not thrilled with his "don't want to hit wrong" take tho, it's still early.
His second post you quote is meh to me. Can grok why you don't like it.
Third post is a throw-away in my book.
I guess I get what concerns you, so thanks, I appreciate it.
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:23 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:23 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:15 pm
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 11:09 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 10:16 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Sat Apr 10, 2021 9:51 pm
If you are being serious, work on your ability to analyze the game
Is this directed at anyone in particular or do you just kinda think everyone who isn't you is shite?
I can't speak for DoO, but I assume it's the latter.
I do think that's more of a townie mindset for her though. I don't disagree with the points you're making about her *in general*, but I don't think they apply to DoO.
tbh I want to wolf read her for it. mostly b/c I've
done what she's doing as wolf, and I've had it done to me. It's kinda effective b/c as long as you're not crossing the line from "annoyed and responding with snark and sarcasm" into "actually insulting people" it gets people who sus you to back off.
Outside of her interactions with me/Gavial what's your take on DoO? I know my read on her is currently clouded by my recent interactions.
You "want" to wolf read her? Are you wolf reading her, or no?
I wolf read AtE
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:15 am
Seanzie & Gavial are top scum for me.
[VOTE:
VOTE SEANZIE] aubergine
spicy
why are they top scum?
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 3:49 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:40 pm
hollowkatt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 1:38 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:15 am
Seanzie & Gavial are top scum for me.
[VOTE:
VOTE SEANZIE] aubergine
spicy
why are they top scum?
Both of their reactions to Samu & I
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:43 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 2:38 pm
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 12:10 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 10:15 am
Seanzie & Gavial are top scum for me.
[VOTE:
VOTE SEANZIE] aubergine
Care to elaborate?
I found his approach to Samu's & I the most opphrtunistic
I'm taking sean out of my townreads. I was just reading through those posts again and I agree with this.
He didn't have a lot of conviction and I think it's because he was looking for an easy way to back out of the read.
soooo lets just murder seanz then
[VOTE:
seanzie] aubergine
For anyone interested, here is HK's progression on sean up to his vote for sean
@hollowkatt what do you find scummy about sean?
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:26 pm
by Gavial
I didn’t wanna say this earlier because it’s anti-town but at this point I’m not doing any better so I’ll come out.
Falcon Softed PR/Mafia
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:26 pm
by hollowkatt
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:25 pm
Falcon is the best yeet informational wise I believe.
why?
Re: Beelzebub The Benign D1
Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:27 pm
by BoKnows
Gavial wrote: ↑Sun Apr 11, 2021 4:26 pm
I didn’t wanna say this earlier because it’s anti-town but at this point I’m not doing any better so I’ll come out.
Falcon Softed PR/Mafia
Prove it