The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:12 am S T I L T E D

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:03 am say we elim 2 towns back to back, then would you entertain the idea of him being in a poll?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:13 pm Well falcon's posts certainly bear his typical town personality. Trust no one. I am not terribly confident that this is a good reason to call him town, but at the very least he looks familiar.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:46 am

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 2:00 am I’ll get my head screwed on straight and also I’ll figure out how to communicate properly

Has your take on JJJ changed yet? You said 20 minutes, but it's been 24 hours.

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:03 am say we elim 2 towns back to back, then would you entertain the idea of him being in a poll?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:17 am JJJ sloonei is where I'm at.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:20 am So I usually wait to express my own read on him, because a lot of folks tend to just adopt the “whatever slopnei says” approach to reading Jay.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:17 am JJJ sloonei is where I'm at.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:16 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:03 am say we elim 2 towns back to back, then would you entertain the idea of him being in a poll?

These kind of questions are tire spinners....there's a whole game to be played in between these 2 hypothetical mislynches, and that is what we should be using to determine a player being in the POE

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:28 am At present I am not uncomfortable voting for either marmot or sig. it is slightly worrying that I don’t have any names beyond those two.

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:29 am I will admit, sloonei trying to avoid giving a read on JJJ is pretty towny and letting everyone develop their on stances on him naturally. I think as mafia he would probably feel more obligated to make his stance clear on jjj in a world where jjj is town.

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:32 am

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:29 am I will admit, sloonei trying to avoid giving a read on JJJ is pretty towny and letting everyone develop their on stances on him naturally. I think as mafia he would probably feel more obligated to make his stance clear on jjj in a world where jjj is town.

However if this is what sloonei does regularly then my point doesn’t stand but I assume someone will correct me if I’m wrong

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:31 amand I

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:30 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:28 am At present I am not uncomfortable voting for either marmot or sig. it is slightly worrying that I don’t have any names beyond those two.

I think marmot is kinda towny tbh

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:09 am I read sig's ISO. It's 12 posts. It's not townie. I could see him being town, but I could also see him being scum. I can't make up my mind on him right now. I can't tell what he's trying to do, except pick a fight with a player that's roleclaimed. Those are the kind of waves that, at least to me, don't make sense for a scum player to make.

I'd love feedback on this take.

Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:35 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 6:31 pm Sig is our resident mischop bait on the Syndicate, for those who are new here. Or... he was as of a year ago. I really haven't been around much lately.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:45 am Also Marmot is one of the other most mislynched players early on so I'm going to go ahead and call both these wagons as bad town/town.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:35 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:09 amhttps://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/ucp.php
I read sig's ISO. It's 12 posts. It's not townie. I could see him being town, but I could also see him being scum. I can't make up my mind on him right now. I can't tell what he's trying to do, except pick a fight with a player that's roleclaimed. Those are the kind of waves that, at least to me, don't make sense for a scum player to make.

I'd love feedback on this take.

I think it's unclear whether Sig is aware that Anarch roleclaimed. His beef was about Anarch suggestion the Vendor to claim, which is a beef I don't understand. I'm a vegetarian. I also think that picking that as a point to argue is very easy for scum to do, and it's unclear to me why Sig thinks it's scummy behaviour rather than something he "doesn't like".

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:46 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:45 am Also Marmot is one of the other most mislynched players early on so I'm going to go ahead and call both these wagons as bad town/town.

Point us in a better direction.

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:55 am Going to do my repeat, just because Sloonie/Jay townread each other doesn't mean they're locked town.

From there, I've caught up in theory, mainly skims and still haven't read the first 8 pages.

SPF case on me doesn't seem mafia aligned, but it's not good. It's like the equivalent of someone "scum slipping" when it wasn't a slip, but like worse. Especially if trying to think I'm mafia. HOWEVER, I don't see mafia making that sort of case, though its the type of thing they'd jump on.

Dizzy seems townie from tone and how they approached spf case on me, but that's like a light town read.

Anarchy has apparently claimed so they're a civ, but just totally 100% wrong.

Marmot common mislynch don't see the reasoning for them.

Jay: I'm not a fan of him asking about how many mafia are among the 0 posters. Unless the logic is I think everyone who's posting is a civ hence mafia in 0 poster literally no reason to assume one way or another it's NAI.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:57 am Interesting that sig believes anarch’s claim without a second thought.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:35 am

Lime Coke wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:32 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:30 am
Sloonei: I'd vote for responding to a joke post with an deadpan question.

Wait where did he do that at?

My reason for voting him is also a joke.

But I'm talking about this exchange.


The reason I'd stated interest in voting for LC was that when I first joined the thread, you'd been pretty quick in responding to my posts, but took much longer to respond to my question asking about scumreads. But I also see that you were interacting with someone else, and your response is agreeable in the sense that I believe what you said, so I'm willing to walk that back for now.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 1:30 am Pending his response about scumreads, I'd vote LC if the day ended right now.

Sloonei: I'd vote for responding to a joke post with an deadpan question.

JJJ and TSP: no qualms with either yet.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:15 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:12 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:10 am

Dolby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:59 am Marmot is just w/e

The only things that I care about are the LC and Sloonei SRs and I don't think that either are scummy

You scumread them, but you don't?

I don't scumread either

What I meant is that the scumreads from you aren't scummy. Ie. I don't think that they come from a scum mindset.

Erm, my scumread of Sloonei was a joke and I walked back my initial ping regarding Lime Coke. I thought I'd stated both of those things in the thread (definitely the latter, and I believe yes on the former). Why don't you find them coming from a scum mindset?

I have no updates on either read at this moment.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:22 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:20 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:16 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:14 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:09 am I'm tired and don't want to read 400 posts.

Who wants to chat?

How’s this game feeling so far?

I left the thread ~24 hours ago with no inkling of a scumteam and a couple light townreads and that hasn't changed.

Yourself?

I’ve been able to hover around all day today and I feel pretty good about a relatively large group of town reads. I lack any definitive suspects though, and would like to actually have a tangible suspicion against somebody as we crawl toward the deadline.

Suspect me, I dare you.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:26 am

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:03 am jaggedjimmyjay
sloonei
dyslexicon
sonofanarch
illario
lime coke
notanaxehole
dolby
johanna
g-man
falcon
TSP
marmot
sig

rough snapshot of where my brain is at. i feel good about jagged/sloonei/dizzy/sonofanarch being villagers, and in a world where there is a wolf within these names, i believe that it would only be one. i townread limecoke/illario as well - i think that limecoke has consistently gotten more and more villagery as the day has gone on, and i think that illario has been villagery from the moment the game started - the only reason he isn't in my "confident town" tier is because i know how strong his wolf game is, and how bad i can be at reading him lol

falcon has made no impression on me so far. TSP is mildly wolfy solely because his posts don't make sense to me.

marmot is low in my list because as much as i love the GIF in https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 76#p855876, i think the way marmot talks about TSP feels overly hedgy/cautious. sig is low in my list for obvious reasons

i do not think this is The Solve, and looking at this list more, i actually suspect i'm misreading someone in my list of towns (perhaps i should be taking a closer look at my read on Son Of Anarch - i wrote him off as town almost immediately when i have no idea what his range is like or how competent of a wolf he is), but i think it's a good enough place to start. current feeling is that there's a wolf or two in the bottom 4 names and then another wolf or two in the zero posters, and then one final wolf in the upper tier. that might an overtly convoluted way to explain my reads, but it's just how i'm looking at the game rn

AMA

Your list of suspects is kinda standard Syndicate LHF.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:38 am Well, I'm reading SPF's ISO and there's some damn good content.

Her take on sig earlier today was quite nuanced and one I would expect more from a townie player as opposed to a scum player for that reason. I saw that it does include a response to Dizzy, but I don't think that implicates Dizzy like I think SPF implied.

I'm also probably going to volume-clear Dizzy for Day 1. In the last game I hosted, he played as scum, and didn't really post that all that much until he had to.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:56 am Should I pull quotes, or can I just say that it looks like TSP is trying to move the thread in a direction without doing the work to make it happen and it isn't working? In this case, the direction is to point out that sig is town.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 2:09 am I read sig's ISO. It's 12 posts. It's not townie. I could see him being town, but I could also see him being scum. I can't make up my mind on him right now. I can't tell what he's trying to do, except pick a fight with a player that's roleclaimed. Those are the kind of waves that, at least to me, don't make sense for a scum player to make.

I'd love feedback on this take.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:05 am

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:22 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 1:38 am Well, I'm reading SPF's ISO and there's some damn good content.

Her take on sig earlier today was quite nuanced and one I would expect more from a townie player as opposed to a scum player for that reason. I saw that it does include a response to Dizzy, but I don't think that implicates Dizzy like I think SPF implied.

I'm also probably going to volume-clear Dizzy for Day 1. In the last game I hosted, he played as scum, and didn't really post that all that much until he had to.

This post is entirely pockets / perhaps a partner slipped in there. Its entirely fluff and no substance.

I feel the same way about JJJ, working pretty hard, but has nothing interesting to say.

Is there a difference in your mind between people who are working hard with nothing interesting to say, and people working hard in order to look town?

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:10 am I'm not sold on a Dolby TR yet. I've been trying to explain that my SR of Sloonei was a joke, but he still maintains that I was serious, and that he TR's me for it. Reason being, I expect scum to lock themselves into reads more, and I expect townies to be more fluid.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:57 am Interesting that sig believes anarch’s claim without a second thought.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:57 am

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:55 am Going to do my repeat, just because Sloonie/Jay townread each other doesn't mean they're locked town.

From there, I've caught up in theory, mainly skims and still haven't read the first 8 pages.

SPF case on me doesn't seem mafia aligned, but it's not good. It's like the equivalent of someone "scum slipping" when it wasn't a slip, but like worse. Especially if trying to think I'm mafia. HOWEVER, I don't see mafia making that sort of case, though its the type of thing they'd jump on.

Dizzy seems townie from tone and how they approached spf case on me, but that's like a light town read.

Anarchy has apparently claimed so they're a civ, but just totally 100% wrong.

Marmot common mislynch don't see the reasoning for them.

Jay: I'm not a fan of him asking about how many mafia are among the 0 posters. Unless the logic is I think everyone who's posting is a civ hence mafia in 0 poster literally no reason to assume one way or another it's NAI.

Lime Coke, NotAnAxehole, dolby, falcon.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:14 pm @sig if i’m reading your recent posts correctly, your current list of suspects looks like this:
JaggedJimmyJay

Am I mistaken?

sig wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:18 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:14 pm @sig if i’m reading your recent posts correctly, your current list of suspects looks like this:
JaggedJimmyJay

Am I mistaken?

He's got a raised eyebrow, but I'd probably not go for axing him today.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:10 am I'm not sold on a Dolby TR yet. I've been trying to explain that my SR of Sloonei was a joke, but he still maintains that I was serious, and that he TR's me for it. Reason being, I expect scum to lock themselves into reads more, and I expect townies to be more fluid.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 10:14 amDid you slot me into Unad? Can I upgrade to a Triad?

ilario wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:03 am say we elim 2 towns back to back, then would you entertain the idea of him being in a poll?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sun Sep 12, 2021 11:14 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 11, 2021 10:13 pm Well falcon's posts certainly bear his typical town personality. Trust no one. I am not terribly confident that this is a good reason to call him town, but at the very least he looks familiar.

You have an unusual early interest in my slot this game, and you're approaching it in a very hdegey way that makes me curious...have I ever seen your scum game?