The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:29 pm**

Epignosis is working. Here because of the time, sure, but working all the same.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:27 pm Epignosis is a bit suspicious for seeming to not give a shit that I am dying.

What else would you have me do? Hack into other people's devices and unvote you?

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:30 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:29 pm Epignosis is working. Here because of the time, sure, but working all the same.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:27 pm Epignosis is a bit suspicious for seeming to not give a shit that I am dying.
What else would you have me do? Hack into other people's devices and unvote you?

I don't actually know if you want them to unvote me. Am I a civilian?

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:30 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:27 pm Well, is he even here?
He's been around most of the day phase since I accumulated three votes.

Logged in =/= "around"

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:31 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:30 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:28 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:27 pm Well, is he even here?
He's been around most of the day phase since I accumulated three votes.
Logged in =/= "around"

I don't mean that. I mean you've made posts during that period.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:32 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:30 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:29 pm Epignosis is working. Here because of the time, sure, but working all the same.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:27 pm Epignosis is a bit suspicious for seeming to not give a shit that I am dying.
What else would you have me do? Hack into other people's devices and unvote you?
I don't actually know if you want them to unvote me. Am I a civilian?

I think so. I've had my doubts at times, but I'd certainly prefer an 8-poster to go over someone making significantly more effort.

I don't understand why OTHER people's actions specifically has fuck all to do with me.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:33 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:20 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:17 pm Ah, well you've said it about myself in a game we played together last year

Do you now feel it's an inaccurate description of how I play?
I'm sure you do that sometimes. Everyone does that sometimes.

Why are you voting for me?

I think you're Maf

You talk about a stranglehold on the thread...what does that mean?

Does it mean you'd have near or over 200 posts by D2? Cuz that's what's happened
What I mean is that I would have zero votes on me, because I'd be adhering to everyone's generic cookie cutter impression of my "meta" by being assertive, making cases, being extensively analytical all game instead of just today, and I would have achieved this with fewer than 200 posts. I would exhibit no turbulence. I would be a beacon of self-assurance and strategic soundness. People would look up to me instead of telling me that they don't believe in my methods. People would find warmth under my gaze instead of saying I'm "demotivated".

That's all so damned easy in a game like this. I could do it with my eyes closed. I have many times.

If I am a goofy floppy mess, it's because I am not in control and cannot take it by force. That only comes from my civilian body. This is complete truth, but nobody I know nobody cares. WIFOM is too scary, and we don't have the courage to acknowledge that it's probably legitimate.

You've made many reads based off meta, and I asked you about that earlier

Now you're referring to your own meta and asking us to read you based off it

I recall a game you were scum in last year, and I sussed you due to your milquetoast posting

You're doing the same thing this game as well

You're the flavour of whoever is currently sitting at the table, you have no spice of your own

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:33 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:32 pm I think so. I've had my doubts at times, but I'd certainly prefer an 8-poster to go over someone making significantly more effort.

I don't understand why OTHER people's actions specifically has fuck all to do with me.

You're not responsible for other people's votes. You are responsible for what you do and do not say. Anyway you're not dying today so whatever.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:35 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:33 pm You've made many reads based off meta, and I asked you about that earlier

Now you're referring to your own meta and asking us to read you based off it

I recall a game you were scum in last year, and I sussed you due to your milquetoast posting

You're doing the same thing this game as well

You're the flavour of whoever is currently sitting at the table, you have no spice of your own

I'm not asking anyone to read me based on my own self-assessment. I know that's pointless. But it feels good to tell the truth even when it falls on deaf ears. I have absolutely not been milquetoast in this game. I have been turbulent and irritable, yes, but not milquetoast.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:36 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:16 pm If I am dead, I want to know everyone's plans of action moving forward.

We're not going to fart around while I watch from the grave. What's next? Plan ahead starting immediately.

Kill a slankers in effort to prep for best possible lylo.

If slankers is hit, proceed with assoc.

If slankers not it, cry.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:36 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:33 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:32 pm I think so. I've had my doubts at times, but I'd certainly prefer an 8-poster to go over someone making significantly more effort.

I don't understand why OTHER people's actions specifically has fuck all to do with me.
You're not responsible for other people's votes. You are responsible for what you do and do not say. Anyway you're not dying today so whatever.

I really don't know what you're expecting from me. I was logged in but working at this same computer (and also watching a television program's finale). Yes, I've been reading in sips so I'm not buried before the vote locks and trying to catch up. Again, this is a strange expectation for specifically me.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:39 pm**

His Meta read on me was accurate.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:40 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:36 pm I really don't know what you're expecting from me. I was logged in but working at this same computer (and also watching a television program's finale). Yes, I've been reading in sips so I'm not buried before the vote locks and trying to catch up. Again, this is a strange expectation for specifically me.

I don't care about logged in or logged out. I am not going to go there.

A simple "Abigail is a much more sensible elimination than JJJ" goes a long way if that's your belief. You may genuinely believe that placing the vote alone is sufficient to convey that message, and maybe it is. But I am tasked with assessing you as I am anyone else, and that includes assessing your apparent investment (or non) in what happens at today's deadline.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:41 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:40 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:36 pm I really don't know what you're expecting from me. I was logged in but working at this same computer (and also watching a television program's finale). Yes, I've been reading in sips so I'm not buried before the vote locks and trying to catch up. Again, this is a strange expectation for specifically me.
I don't care about logged in or logged out. I am not going to go there.

A simple "Abigail is a much more sensible elimination than JJJ" goes a long way if that's your belief. You may genuinely believe that placing the vote alone is sufficient to convey that message, and maybe it is. But I am tasked with assessing you as I am anyone else, and that includes assessing your apparent investment (or non) in what happens at today's deadline.

Assess all you like.

I'm assessing my bank account right now, and that's more important than worrying about what happens to you in a game of mafia.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:42 pm**

In case I am unclear in my narcissistic brags: I don't mean I would have a stranglehold over ANY game if I was mafia. Sometimes I lay eggs, but that has only happened in highly active threads with super-effortful civilians (e.g., Mountain Mafia or Philosophy 2). I don't think I have ever lost a game as mafia in a low-activity thread. Those games allow me to utterly dictate terms. I become god-emperor.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:44 pm**

If Abigail Sophia is mafia, I think the only bad teammate fit on the board is Epignosis. Everyone else is basically compatible, POE or not.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:47 pm**

I would love to see falcon and Long Con interact more with one another, because they occupy similar spaces in my mind.

If I want, I could easily devise a case against them, because they're not overtly town in most regards. However, in response to pressure, each one has kinda looked like their ordinary town game. If they're both town, then that suggests someone is pulling the wool. So don't be complacent with the poop-tier reads we've been trying to work with to this point. It's all been barrell-scraped and shouldn't be trusted. Start over if you have to.

If Abigail Sophia is mafia, there's still room for a little status quo. Even then though, it's precarious. LoRab?

If Abigail Sophia is town, the game is bung. You're likely looking at mafia that are under no pressure today.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:48 pm**

Proposition

[VOTE: Falc] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:50 pm**

But abigail sophia is F R O Z E N.

She is not sure what to do under all this suspicion and has nothing to say. She doesn't even have a teammate in her family that she can bounce ideas off.

These are my thoughts. I don't know if they are good ones.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:50 pm**

I'd vote falcon if forced to do so. I would place such a vote with a confidence level amounting to "bleh".

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:51 pm**

Been reading but not posting over dinner. I’m not seeing bad Jjj. Moving to Abigail Sofia to break the tie. Don’t really have strong opinion of her, but epi has suspected her, and I have no reason to think she is civ.

[VOTE: AS] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:51 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:50 pm But abigail sophia is F R O Z E N.

She is not sure what to do under all this suspicion and has nothing to say. She doesn't even have a teammate in her family that she can bounce ideas off.

These are my thoughts. I don't know if they are good ones.

Certainly could be. She should try to Let It Go.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:52 pm**

I mean, I'm not leaving it a tie.

I'm at Abigail > Falc > Jay

Moving from Abigail to Falc still satisfies tie condition, but doesn't send the preferred

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:53 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:51 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:50 pm But abigail sophia is F R O Z E N.

She is not sure what to do under all this suspicion and has nothing to say. She doesn't even have a teammate in her family that she can bounce ideas off.

These are my thoughts. I don't know if they are good ones.
Certainly could be. She should try to Let It Go.

Ok, good enough for me. You are free.

[VOTE: Abigail sophia ] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:54 pm**

Please forgive my hubris late this phase, friends. While it was honest, it's still annoying to listen to some idiot on a forum talk about how great he'd be if X or Y or Z. Can it, Jay.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:54 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:52 pm I mean, I'm not leaving it a tie.

I'm at Abigail > Falc > Jay

Moving from Abigail to Falc still satisfies tie condition, but doesn't send the preferred

You are no longer responsible.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:54 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:54 pm Please forgive my hubris late this phase, friends. While it was honest, it's still annoying to listen to some idiot on a forum talk about how great he'd be if X or Y or Z. Can it, Jay.

I enjoyed it.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:54 pm**

Mmmm good

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:56 pm**

One day I hope to visit the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul. The Byzantines were so neat.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:56 pm**

smh really wanna vote jay

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:57 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:56 pm smh really wanna vote jay

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Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:58 pm**

Go for it, there's room.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:58 pm**

this isn't a wolf flip

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:58 pm**

i kinda started it didn't i

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:58 pm**

If not her, I am quite stumped.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:59 pm**

Probably not.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:59 pm**

Probably because it feels so much like the first limp-ass one ,as I said earlier.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 9:59 pm**

Review my latest analyses for legacy.

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:00 pm**

also could be a pr flip

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:00 pm**

when does day end

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:00 pm**

oh shit

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:00 pm**

Phase locked

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:00 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:00 pm oh shit

Mmmm yes

Posted: **Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:03 pm**

@falcon45ca
@Epignosis
@DrWilgy
@LoRab
@TonyStarkPrime
@Long Con
@sig
@JaggedJimmyJay
@Abigail Sophia
@motobot
@Simon

Who killed Naitō Masatoyo?
Poll ended at Mon Mar 25, 2024 10:00 pm

falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Epignosis
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
1
7%
Voters: sig
LoRab
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
sig
0
No votes
Voters: None
JaggedJimmyJay
4
29%
Voters: motobot, Simon, falcon45ca, Abigail Sophia
Abigail Sophia
6
43%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, LoRab, TonyStarkPrime, DrWilgy, Epignosis, Long Con
motobot
0
No votes
Voters: None
Simon
0
No votes
Voters: None
The Jesuits (host/spec)
3
21%
Voters: S~V~S, leetic, Scotty

A thief was caught stealing coins and was later hanged. Abigail Sophia was the thief.

N2 begins and ends 24 hours from now.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:00 pm**

@falcon45ca
@Epignosis
@DrWilgy
@LoRab
@TonyStarkPrime
@Long Con
@sig
@JaggedJimmyJay
@Abigail Sophia
@motobot
@Simon

In order to get revenge for the Takeda clan's casualties, Takeda Katsuyori rushed into battle. However, his strategical acumen was nowhere near as good as his father's, and he was quickly killed.

leetic wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:22 pm You are Takeda Katsuyori, Shingen's son and heir! You are a member of the Takeda Clan, and win when all threats to your faction are eliminated or otherwise neutralized or if nothing can stop this from happening.

DrWilgy was killed. It is now D3, which lasts 48 hours.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:08 pm**

RIP Wilgy.

I thought the thief WAS Kagemusha, from the opening description. The thief is identical to the daimyō, but is Shingen the daimyō? And Kagemusha replaces Shingen, so I thought they would be identical.

But now I don't know, because AS didn't flip Kagemusha, so the thief is someone different? Hopefully, a Wolf? Also, there was no alignment given in the host post?

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:11 pm**

Did we get Maf?

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:12 pm**

Fairly sure Abigail was non-mafia. She was likely the main character flipping as Kagemusha (who is the thief).

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:13 pm**

So the game is kinda bung.

DrWilgy is a somewhat fortuitous kill. That removed one layer of tinfoil.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:15 pm**

That sucks, if true.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:16 pm**

Radical theory:

Epignosis and motobot are mafia. Scotty only gave them soft town reads, so they killed him. Wilgy explicitly suggested they’re a tinfoil theory of his, so they killed him.

It’d also explain why this whole game has felt like ass.

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