The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:34 pm sloonei with all due respect I'm done responding to you. your case is bad and you're only being repetitive and I have family over that I should be hanging out with, I can't be a good family member, and respond to you, and also make a good decision for this day phase at the same time. I can do 1, maybe 2 of those things but not all 3.

Sloonei's case is literally the only thing I haven't read in this thread (except what I haven't read that I am going to read). I have never known anyone to pour that much effort into a Day 1 case as that.

There are three mafia. Not one. If Sloonei feels he has a fish (you), he can afford to cast his net for others. And I don't see him doing that.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:42 pm Sloonei doesn't care about the roof.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 3:42 pm Nobody gets an automatic pass. Passes have to be earned.

If you're building a roof (presumably for someone to fiddle on), and you've hired sixteen men to build it, but you are informed that three of those men are intent on destroying the roof, whom do you fire first?

Is it somebody whom you see working very hard on the construction, or someone who looks like he doesn't care about the roof?

If you fire the first guy first, and he wasn't planning to destroy the roof, then you've lost a good worker on the basis of the least evidence. If you fire the second guy, then you've lost someone who...looks like he doesn't care about the roof.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:06 pm Oh gross the light forum skin my eeyyyyyyeeesss

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:10 pm Speedchuck is a truly delightful fellow.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:08 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:06 pm Oh gross the light forum skin my eeyyyyyyeeesss

Yeah, I only use it.

You guys with your yellow text. It's awful.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:14 pm why shouldn't I vote for Epi right now?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:14 pm why shouldn't I vote for Epi right now?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:17 pmWho is Dave?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:14 pm why shouldn't I vote for Epi right now?

What are your biggest present gripes?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:16 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:14 pm why shouldn't I vote for Epi right now?

Are there (non-Kylemii) people you'd rather lynch?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:11 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:08 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:06 pm Oh gross the light forum skin my eeyyyyyyeeesss

Yeah, I only use it.

You guys with your yellow text. It's awful.

Do you prefer white?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:18 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:17 pmWho is Dave?

He's Dave.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:14 pm why shouldn't I vote for Epi right now?

What are your biggest present gripes?

I hate the argument he used to frame his vote on me. I probably still town read him, but this evening has been a challenge for me and I don't really know how to read anything in this game anymore. I still don't know what the existing case on him is.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:21 pm meh. I voted for daisy.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:23 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:19 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:15 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:14 pm why shouldn't I vote for Epi right now?

What are your biggest present gripes?

I hate the argument he used to frame his vote on me. I probably still town read him, but this evening has been a challenge for me and I don't really know how to read anything in this game anymore. I still don't know what the existing case on him is.

There isn't a consolidated single case. There are scattered fragments of my yelling (which you don't need acquainted with) as well as the suspicions expressed by nutella, LoRab, FZ, and most recently Marmot. The prevailing concern is that he has been unreasonable to the point of parody in his handling of me, and that his willingness to give me a Day 1 pass doesn't smell like something a civilian Epignosis would do with a mafia Jay read. For all he'd know I could just kill him pronto and then survive the game while he pulls his hair out.

Did you see the parallel to the RED vs. BLUE game? The resemblance was striking.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:24 pm holy shit?

okay I'm still with fam, but I can check in every once in a while still between songs, what's the deal with space daisy?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:24 pm Hey, just got off work, and I'm 8 pages behind. I'll try to hang out here in the present a little while I catch up.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:21 pm meh. I voted for daisy.

Do you consider a Daisy lynch to be less lazy and crappy than a Marmot lynch?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:26 pm I apologize for having emotions earlier, I will avoid that in the future.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:27 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:24 pm Hey, just got off work, and I'm 8 pages behind. I'll try to hang out here in the present a little while I catch up.

Things will be more interesting if you vote for me.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:29 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:26 pm I apologize for having emotions earlier, I will avoid that in the future.

Cool, I'm not there yet. Is it going to be awesome?

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:31 pm I know this is a needy request but could someone quote or copy/paste Spacedaisy's 4 posts for me? I can't iso rn without the link

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:46 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:41 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:24 pm If I may make an observation, regarding the setup:

Tevye can get BTSC with his daughters. In doing so, he can confirm them town to himself. So that's neat.

However, if he doesn't search for them, the town gains a cop in the match-maker. Match-maker can search for BTSC, which would (if Tevye doesn't submit actions) only be held by the mafia.

We trade off a BTSC-finder and a town searcher/btsc/lover thing for a cop. Does anyone think this is a good idea?

This is interesting. I need to think on this because traditionally I've always viewed civs with BTSC as one of the strongest things the civs can have...

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:19 pm Ok, holy shit ya'll! I left for work and thought maybe I could slowly catch up on the last three pages. Now there are ten more. There is no way I can catch up with this before the day ends so I'm probably going to random vote between the people earning votes.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:36 pm Let me rephrase this, I am not casting a random vote. That was poorly chosen wording. I am going to cast my vote on someone who already, butnot randomly. I really would like to vote the same way as Kyle for two reasons. As far as I was caught up (only page 9) I felt like Sloonei's behavior around Kyle/Jay in the first few pages was the most shady. In particular the long post where he did one word characterizations of Kyles posts. I can expand on this more after work but I just don't have the time now. I also trust Kyle more than any other after the half the thread I've read, so the fact his vote is there too makes me feel that much more confident in my vote. I only wish more people would consider a vote there.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:34 pm no linki was given

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:30 pm So is it genuinely in Epignosis's MO as Mafia to go after Jimmy on day 1 and put himself at risk like this?

He is now leading the votes. I don't like it. It looks like a potential mislynch to me. I am getting nam flashbacks to MK.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:35 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:34 pm no linki was given

Sometimes the linki giveth. Sometimes it taketh.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:31 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:27 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:12 pmThat's rich coming from someone who didn't notice that my rainbow was copied from the previous page.

"wow, i can't believe you actually really believed i was telling the truth while i was obviously being purposefully deceptive for a weird joke"

I didn't post the rainbow list to make a joke. I posted the rainbow list to determine the level to which people were paying attention to see if I could analyse any level of collusion.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:46 am

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:41 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:24 pm If I may make an observation, regarding the setup:

Tevye can get BTSC with his daughters. In doing so, he can confirm them town to himself. So that's neat.

However, if he doesn't search for them, the town gains a cop in the match-maker. Match-maker can search for BTSC, which would (if Tevye doesn't submit actions) only be held by the mafia.

We trade off a BTSC-finder and a town searcher/btsc/lover thing for a cop. Does anyone think this is a good idea?

This is interesting. I need to think on this because traditionally I've always viewed civs with BTSC as one of the strongest things the civs can have...

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:19 pm Ok, holy shit ya'll! I left for work and thought maybe I could slowly catch up on the last three pages. Now there are ten more. There is no way I can catch up with this before the day ends so I'm probably going to random vote between the people earning votes.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:36 pm Let me rephrase this, I am not casting a random vote. That was poorly chosen wording. I am going to cast my vote on someone who already, butnot randomly. I really would like to vote the same way as Kyle for two reasons. As far as I was caught up (only page 9) I felt like Sloonei's behavior around Kyle/Jay in the first few pages was the most shady. In particular the long post where he did one word characterizations of Kyles posts. I can expand on this more after work but I just don't have the time now. I also trust Kyle more than any other after the half the thread I've read, so the fact his vote is there too makes me feel that much more confident in my vote. I only wish more people would consider a vote there.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:44 pm Daisy does not look great, given that analysis. Not enough for me to vote for her right now, I'm willing to give her more time to make more posts to analyze.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:45 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:44 pm Daisy does not look great, given that analysis. Not enough for me to vote for her right now, I'm willing to give her more time to make more posts to analyze.

what if it's between me and her?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:45 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:44 pm Daisy does not look great, given that analysis. Not enough for me to vote for her right now, I'm willing to give her more time to make more posts to analyze.

what if it's between me and her?

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:51 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:45 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:44 pm Daisy does not look great, given that analysis. Not enough for me to vote for her right now, I'm willing to give her more time to make more posts to analyze.

what if it's between me and her?

But it's not.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:53 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:45 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:44 pm Daisy does not look great, given that analysis. Not enough for me to vote for her right now, I'm willing to give her more time to make more posts to analyze.

what if it's between me and her?

I'll murder you!