The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:34 pm

ColinIsCool wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 11:12 pm So I think we ought to see who attempted to redirect from cbob, even if they ended up voting for him. And maybe especially if they ended up voting for him.

Nobody did that.

Aw, shucks.

That beer emoji was an accident but it is keeping with my spirit

jay is my favorite mafia player.

jay may have him in dark green, and while macdougall is no way bob's teammate, i haven't ruled him out from being s/a.

i see no motivation for a scum epi to have even placed a long vote on sabie when mac and even dunya were ripe for his picking, even DF to a lesser extent. nah. not buying it. he wasn't around for the last moments of eod, but he was online during the day and saw the thread progressing. he could have steered it in a safer direction. sabie was not a safe scum bet. i'm feeling assured he isn't cbob's teammate.

i'm feeling equal measures of good on quin and colin's votes if we look at the big picture, although i remember feeling quin's rationale at the time of placing his vote was a little underwhelming.

reywas not placing a vote on anyone is pingy, would have to take a look at his cbob interaction or lack thereof.

nova is my biggest scumspect atm.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:08 am Her perception of bob improved here; it is unclear why. Please talk about that, dunya.

he wasn't in the clear, but this post was more along the lines of what a cbob post feels like to me and him chipping in on epi made feel a little better and i wanted to see if that would continue and sway me the other way.

i didn't like his colin vote at all. i hated his vote on me even more, it was weak and prodded by you. his inital posts made it seem like he was satisfied with my explanations but after you kept asking him he suddenly decided he could make an issue out of it. but i had bigger fish to fry that eod; i was focused on a big bad australian.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:45 am

reywaS wrote: ↑Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:57 pm

I might vote for Bob for the sake of chaos.

What? I don't know what this means. Why would that be "chaos"? Anyway, rey didn't vote for bob or anyone else. I'm not a fan.

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i remember that post. if he voted for bob then it would have tied mac and bob. i think a draw is "chaotic" to reywas.

i agree though, that post 1 hr from eod and reywas not voting anywhere is indeed pingy. but if he was cbob's teammate, he could have easily swung it in mac's direction instead of defending him, no?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 1:55 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:57 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:25 am

Spoiler: show

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:13 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:10 am

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 11:07 amShe's completely different from what I'm used to, which has always been civ. So GTH she's bad.

But GTH sucks and fails to consider she is obviously roleplaying, so more like neutral from now.

What is completely different about her?

Normally I'm expecting a single, 8 line paragraph on how she is unsure about a bunch of different topics.

This is so specific that I struggle to believe it.

i can see why it feels fabricated, but is it an accurate representation of sabie outside roleplay? i checked the ongoing game and can see a lot of variety in her posts, more beefy content as the game progressed. we won't talk about that now since we don't know her alignment and the game is ongoing.

then i checked a world asunder and honestly, i did see more beefy content as a whole from her there. the observation isn't completely unwarranted for someone who's played with her in a few games recently. but it was day 0. she was role playing a character she loves in a show she expressed genuine excitement about even in the sign up thread. and she did have a funeral and personal reasons yesterday. the question is would she use roleplay to mask discomfort at being given a scum role or not?

as much as i'd like to give ddl shit for that, i don't think it was a bad observation. i just dislike how he made it, and tried to get it to stick, then pulled out of it.

Like this dunya content a lot.

this post specifically makes me feel worse about ddl. after calling him fake for quite a big portion of his initial posting history, he likes the content where i defend ddl without being prodded to like it. it just seems like such a weird post to like. and it makes me feel better about sabie when you couple it with his poking of her on a separate occasion.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:07 am jay may have him in dark green, and while macdougall is no way bob's teammate, i haven't ruled him out from being s/a.

Yup anybody can be indy.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:33 am i agree though, that post 1 hr from eod and reywas not voting anywhere is indeed pingy. but if he was cbob's teammate, he could have easily swung it in mac's direction instead of defending him, no?

on the other end of the spectrum, ddl's defence of macd kinda really looks like TMI.

dunya, if you have to put four people in a mafia-specific suspect pool, who ya got?

DDL, novaselinenever, DF or reywas

i don't think sabie is mafia.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 2:24 pm DDL, novaselinenever, DF or reywas

i don't think sabie is mafia.

Is that a product primarily of her own posts or of colonialbob's treatment of her? This will be an important read for us all to sort out given the general agreement otherwise that she is a good candidate.

she was in character for all of day 0 and had personal problems after that which didn't allow her to contribute as we'd hoped. it's hard to judge her on her posts solely. but her reasoning that she's not good at day 1s and needs time to get into the flow of the game and make beefy reads like the rest of us is in tune with what she said in the first game i played with her (the one you hosted, i'm so bad at mafia game names...especially ones i don't win). at that time, everyone was calling her fake as well and didn't like her "YAY I'M TOWN I GOT A GOOD ROLE" post, if you recall.

i know you didn't like her post where she was pretending to meet ddl's quota of sentences, but i thought it was enough tongue in cheek / exasperation at that judgment that it felt authentic. it was a little sassy and something i would have done myself even.

i definitely don't like cbob's mentions of her, it was reaching. it was like "i want to pile onto the sabie looks suspicious for reasons reasons reasons, let's go fishing" and his reasoning seemed to have been fabricated in a way after i asked him about her specifically, similar to his justification of voting for me at the eod. it's a good look for her. i like her. i dunno. she seems completely authentic and real to me.

as of tonight, i feel best about lynching between ddl and nova tomorrow as best candidates for cbob's teammate. if i die tonight, please start there.

i'd also like to see more content from DF and reywas (i won't ask sabie for more content given her situation, but if she can...that's great). i still echo that DF seems very sincere and authentic, though stingy with his words and posts. and reywas' eod defence of macdougall was kind of a good look for him when he could have instead tipped the scales and saved cbob.

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention], how confident are you it's sabie, percentage-wise and why? in little bullet points for me.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:49 pm JaggedJimmyJay, how confident are you it's sabie, percentage-wise and why? in little bullet points for me.

*proceeds through a lengthy process of scribbling equations, erasing them, and scribbling new equations until a solution has been derived*

I feel pretty good that this pool is sound:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 12:53 am I will reduce that to a 4-player mafia-oriented POE based on how I feel about players apart from their interactions with bob:

DDL
sabie12
nova
rey

I don't particularly feel any of them stands out as The One. I don't share your confidence in sabie, but nor do I think she looks horrible. Call each of them 22% and leave the remaining 12% for DF.

do you have a preference from most likely to least likely in that pool of 4? i know there's each 22%, but if i was really pulling your hand for an answer.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:56 pm do you have a preference from most likely to least likely in that pool of 4? i know there's each 22%, but if i was really pulling your hand for an answer.

nova ≥ sabie ≥ DDL ≥ reywaS

what is the most civ-like thing ddl has done?

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:48 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:18 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:55 pm sabie12, any impressions of dunya, Epi, or myself (or anyone else that may have shimmied in a post)?

Maaaaaan I don't know my brain hurts I didn't know there was a quiz on the first day. Wait it's the zero day...or is it zeroth day?

This is a mild ping but also might just be a result of her role-playing rather than her normal posting style. Usually I would expect a lot of waffly stuff (not in a bad way) but this is short and doesn't mention anything about any of those players.

I would encourage sabie12 to do a little more talking about specific people (while keeping up the good RP )

This was the only interactive thing to talk about regarding sabie, and my initial take was a slight positive. I can't do much with it though, because I don't struggle at all to view it from the other direction.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:02 pm what is the most civ-like thing ddl has done?

scream at you about how bad you are

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:44 pm I noticed ddl and dunya had a lot of back and forth so I was at first like what if they're teammates, but she voted him so probably not. Unless she plans to move votes. I'm not a fan of DDLs sort of snarky jab at how I post. Epi seems less talkative and involved than usual to me. Kinda leaning bad on DDL and Epi and they also voted together.

I hope this post is short enough for you

The highlighted bits are hard for me to buy.

what recent game have sabie and epi played together?

i can see sabie genuinely saying and believing the first part.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:06 pm what recent game have sabie and epi played together?

i can see sabie genuinely saying and believing the first part.

Socky Awards Mafia

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:03 pm

colonialbob wrote: ↑Tue Feb 26, 2019 1:48 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:18 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:55 pm sabie12, any impressions of dunya, Epi, or myself (or anyone else that may have shimmied in a post)?

Maaaaaan I don't know my brain hurts I didn't know there was a quiz on the first day. Wait it's the zero day...or is it zeroth day?

This is a mild ping but also might just be a result of her role-playing rather than her normal posting style. Usually I would expect a lot of waffly stuff (not in a bad way) but this is short and doesn't mention anything about any of those players.

I would encourage sabie12 to do a little more talking about specific people (while keeping up the good RP )

This was the only interactive thing to talk about regarding sabie, and my initial take was a slight positive. I can't do much with it though, because I don't struggle at all to view it from the other direction.

don't forget him praising my post, where i defended ddl for making the observation that sabie might be posting differently than usual.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:07 pm don't forget him praising my post, where i defended ddl for making the observation that sabie might be posting differently than usual.

I honestly have a hard time getting as much from that post as you get from it.

colonialbob said something about dunya saying something about DDL saying something about sabie

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:09 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:07 pm don't forget him praising my post, where i defended ddl for making the observation that sabie might be posting differently than usual.

I honestly have a hard time getting as much from that post as you get from it.

colonialbob said something about dunya saying something about DDL saying something about sabie

annie edison is smart.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:07 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:06 pm what recent game have sabie and epi played together?

i can see sabie genuinely saying and believing the first part.

Socky Awards Mafia

I that post just now dunya said something about JaggedJimmyJay saying something about dunya saying something about colonialbob saying something about dunya saying something about Dragon D. Luffy saying something about sabie12.

lmao. sockey award 2020

I may not be around much if at all through the remainder of the night phase. If I die, stay vigilant civilians. POE is effective but not perfect. Remember indies. K.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:05 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:44 pm I noticed ddl and dunya had a lot of back and forth so I was at first like what if they're teammates, but she voted him so probably not. Unless she plans to move votes. I'm not a fan of DDLs sort of snarky jab at how I post. Epi seems less talkative and involved than usual to me. Kinda leaning bad on DDL and Epi and they also voted together.

I hope this post is short enough for you

The highlighted bits are hard for me to buy.

hi [mention]sabie12[/mention]. if you have a moment, can you address the post here. i think it's important in preparation for tomorrow's lynch. why did you reach the conclusion me and ddl couldn't be teammates if one of us was voting for the other?

also, have you played other games with epi? jjj linked us to the socky game where i didn't see a much more "talkative" epi there. in fact, if anything, he's been more talkative here. can you tell us what you meant with that?

I felt like everyone was pressuring me to just throw out reads based on random stuff like everyone else does. So I did that and now it's like the only thing anyone can focus on. It's not my style but I feel like my style is not very accepted and I think I was getting overly offended when maybe I shouldn't. There is nothing to analyze in my post I just threw out random silly stuff because no one likes me being cautious and unsure and just making a list of random thoughts and observations like I normally do apparently. That's it there's nothing else to it. I felt like ddl was suspicious but due to time constraints and other things I wasnt able to put together a big post about why I feel that way.

I'll just go back to the normal way I post and not try to fit in with what everyone else does. I am who I am and I can't change it. It's all good.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:14 pm I felt like everyone was pressuring me to just throw out reads based on random stuff like everyone else does. So I did that and now it's like the only thing anyone can focus on. It's not my style but I feel like my style is not very accepted and I think I was getting overly offended when maybe I shouldn't. There is nothing to analyze in my post I just threw out random silly stuff because no one likes me being cautious and unsure and just making a list of random thoughts and observations like I normally do apparently. That's it there's nothing else to it. I felt like ddl was suspicious but due to time constraints and other things I wasnt able to put together a big post about why I feel that way.

I like this.

Nova is mafia

Nova is Town

The towniest to ever town, if I may add.

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:27 pm I'll just go back to the normal way I post and not try to fit in with what everyone else does. I am who I am and I can't change it. It's all good.

you should absolutely do you and don't worry about anyone's expectations, sabie. i love reading your thoughts, and though it's only my second game with you, i feel like your sincerity is what gives you a special mafia flavor and i like to see what you contribute.

so do you mean to say that the thing about epi not posting as much as you're used to was just to fill up the post because you felt your playstyle was being attacked? or did you actually feel epignosis was posting less than usual?

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:40 pm The towniest to ever town, if I may add.

i love that gif, i'm going to use it in every game i ever play.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:53 pm

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:27 pm I'll just go back to the normal way I post and not try to fit in with what everyone else does. I am who I am and I can't change it. It's all good.

you should absolutely do you and don't worry about anyone's expectations, sabie. i love reading your thoughts, and though it's only my second game with you, i feel like your sincerity is what gives you a special mafia flavor and i like to see what you contribute.

so do you mean to say that the thing about epi not posting as much as you're used to was just to fill up the post because you felt your playstyle was being attacked? or did you actually feel epignosis was posting less than usual?

I don't know why everyone is so focused on that. I meant more like I thought he usually had more to say like longer posts. That's all. Not really anything to delve that far into. I should know better than to get on epis bad side. He did kill me off in that ice cream game pretty quick

do you have any opinions on anyone in your catchup? what about the cbob bandwagon? who would your 4 poe suspects be for tomorrow?

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:54 pm

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:40 pm The towniest to ever town, if I may add.

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:55 pm i love that gif, i'm going to use it in every game i ever play.

It's ugly

sabie12 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:04 pm I meant more like I thought he usually had more to say like longer posts. That's all. Not really anything to delve that far into. I should know better than to get on epis bad side. He did kill me off in that ice cream game pretty quick

i don't know about epi in the ice cream game, i didn't see that (but he was mafia there i'm assuming), but epi in the sockys game was not posting longer posts. i had a look. he barely had 20 posts in day 2 and none of them were long. which leaves me feeling confused about that particular criticism because it feels to me like you are criticizing epi in almost the same manner ddl criticized you, which you felt was an attack on you and you took offence at. so i'm a little confused understanding your perspective there.

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 6:10 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2019 5:55 pm i love that gif, i'm going to use it in every game i ever play.

It's ugly

oh no he didn't

who are your 4 poe suspects, nova?