The Syndicate

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:16 pm If I’ve been pocketed by tutuu i might just permanently retire from mafia

if you're pocketed that makes me right, and therefore lock claire!

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:02 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:44 pm

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:42 pm Are hk/ted/tim partners

Hmmmmthinking

i like ted i think he's town

maybe dizzy maf coz he killed dya n1 coz most other players here dont have that much experience with dya and wouldnt likely to kill them that much n1 coz they havent heard about them? (credit to nutella for making this read first or whoever did it first i dont mean to steal it )

I would straight up kill the following N1: Tim, Dya, Nutella, Mac, Syn, Michelle, Nanook, maybe dizzy

why me lol

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:33 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:07 pm

Spoiler: show

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:56 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:28 pm Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:44 pm Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

Nute, Made, Time, and Mac are the four people that were on both EoD scum wagons. I was already townreading all four of them, but I think this strengthens my townreads on all four of them (well, Mac is confirmed town now since he'd dead, but still!).

On the other hand, Nanook, Tutuu, Ted, Falcon, Dizzy, and Marmot were on the D1 wagon that yeeted a scum, but weren't on the D2 wagon. One of these people (Marmot) has flipped scum. If there were any other bussers on Cat, I'd look at these six people first and foremost because I don't think scum would want to lose two teammates in a row, and thus wouldn't be on Marmot's wagon EoD2?

yea but if u just look at the eod poll and ignore the context i dont think the results will be fruitful

u should take into consideration that marmot was the only wagon on day 2

i forgot about day 1 but ithink there were multiple wagons

on day 2 marmot had 10 votes, a bunch of wagons had 3 votes and it wasnt even close

there wasnt competing wagons i think using VCA the way u are trying to use it wont be effective

also nook and dizzy werent even here for EoD so like

if theyre town they dont vote marmot thats an explanation (cuz they werent physically here for the flash wagon)

and as scum they're after afk still or choose not to

but again, yeah, idk if u can produce results from this

wait, hang on, are you giving benefit of the doubt for not being here EOD to dizzy/nanook but not to me or am I misunderstanding your point here?

wot? i am only telling hyena why i think his method is flawed

im not taking into account whether or not u were at EoD or not, that doesnt matter to me!

i dont care who was on the marmot wagon, everyone present voted there except me!

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:10 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:39 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:32 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:08 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:02 pm now would be a fun time for a vig shot. make things ~e x c i t i n g~

It would be, but you have to wait for tonight. That gives you 47 hours to convince me not to shoot you, or to convince the dumb town to chop their vigilante, your choice. This is where I planed on starting to read, because this is where I expected I would be trying to figure out who to shoot...but I am pretty satisfied.

Congratulations to me, I lived long enough that I think I get a shot off before I get NKed...but of course bad town barely let me get this far and still may get in the way.

oh lord

You should have seen this coming yesterday. If you had puzzled it out I probably would have played this a lot differently, but going straight back into your tunnel sort of made this look like the better plan.

why do you think anyone would figure out you were claiming vig

quote the softs


and not just the thing where you said youre a pr or whatever bc everyone is and last time someone slipped not knowing that was mafia sloon in shadow corridors

Nope. Didn't soft anything. Hate softs. You're town. You're town leader. You played with me before when I played the same way as town...though admittedly you got N1Ked.

I OPEN CLAIMED. Yes, in a game where everyone is a PR. Yes, I think that was more than enough for people to get that I wasn't claiming to be a pissant motion detector without spelling it out. The wolves I am pretty sure recognized they want me dead, but not enough to let Mac live obviously. Now they are hoping to get me chopped before I shoot anyone because they know I'm town and they know I will make a good shot...maybe not a wolf killing shot but a shot that will be good for town, whether that is resolving Made once and for all or shooting a counterwagon, or a slanker...whatever.

So here's the deal town leader...you have to either wolf side by preventing a town vig shot and saving the wolves the necessity of a NK on me...or not.

I've asked for someone to show me how Made is "town spewed." That would be a much better use of my time and yours.

holy fuck there is so much bullshit in this post

it is unbelievable it is coming from tim

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:34 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:31 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:29 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:29 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:28 pm Hallelujah I can speak.

Thanks for figuring out my situation, y’all. I have been busy and did not keep up very well, so I just sheeded nutella at the end of the day.

I will remain somewhat busy for this phase. I have two wolves to analyze for associative reads. I intend to make that my primary focus, since I will likely be unable to catch myself up this phase, so I feel like this is the most effective use of my time right now. I will certainly be here to answer any questions that you all have for me.

why r u so cute?

Look who’s talking tbh

HIHI HIHEYHI HHHIEHEYYYY HEYYYYYYYYY HEYYYYY NO NO NO. STOP. BAD SLOONEI BAD SLOONEI BAD BAD BAD BAD

I rest my case.

u are the cutest robo i know u are so polite and gentleman and smart and sophisticated and u never yell or get angry and ive never seen u lose ur cool and ur just so cool and in control and smart and and an thinking and strategist and tactician and cute and funny and awesome and amazing and u will succeed a lot in life i know it i just knnow it, never lose hope and never change and always shine bright little pogchamp!!!!! <3

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:29 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:46 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:37 pm "I am now a vig is an interesting way to say it.

I needed time to charge weapons. So I chose the annoying intentional slank as a way to avoid the NK. I'm usually towny enough to avoid rational cases so I figured I'd make it at least far enough to get off one shot, claim it, and eat a night kill. That's good enough contribution from me I think.

rofl

so you're telling us that you sussed people with delayed abilities, because they're delayed

while apparently YOUR ability is delayed too, AND it takes three days to charge?

lolololol

No...I WORRIED about how Kyle told the town he would be spending the day charging up and the town shrugged and said "cool, let's see what charged up Kyle can do then" without seeming to consider that Kyle might be charging a killing machine and may not be towns best friend...specifically because, yes I also was charging a killing machine.

That's not the same thing as sussing him.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:29 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:29 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:06 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

okay fuck this

first of all

i am not on a "tunnel rampage"

i think this may be town indicative but it's bad play

and this is not like the other time i saw you pr

like tutuu said i don't understand why you claimed at sod

it's bizarre and suboptimal imo

feisty, you can be town

or a wolf unhappy a push is getting away

Spoiler: show

but still probably town

Nutella's just town and I am pissing her off...mostly intentionally.

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:20 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:41 pm also rn I'm only half in thread, half on the other side of a bong

but Tim, how is town bad this game? we got 2 back to back baddie kills

high gth reads now gogoogogogogogogo

Kyle - probably town, maybe 3p
nutella- probably town
tutuu- probably town
Jpic- lean town
wilgy- lean town
Hyena- lean scum
Syn- lean scum
Hollowkatt- lean scum (but I still don't have a clue what was happening with Thunal early game)
Made- probably town
Nanook- probably scum
Dizzy- lean town
Sloonei- null
Tim- lean scum
Falcon- null tbh. I'm still filtering at reads from spiderverse tbh
radish- lean scum ( makes sense especially if Tim is town)
Ted- null
Michelle- probably town
112- probably scum...actually [VOTE: 112] aubergine
jack- null
LC- gth town, but not a strong read
TSP-null
Martin- lean town
Alison- lean 3p

I'm the person who first sussed and cased marmot but ok i guess

also the person who picked marmot for the flash wagon out of a list of options lol

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:25 pm

Spoiler: show

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:41 pm also rn I'm only half in thread, half on the other side of a bong

but Tim, how is town bad this game? we got 2 back to back baddie kills

Mac I credit for that...you on the other hand want to kill me for spite, and Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

Tutuu I think is pretty well open wolfing and getting town read for it, and then openly mocking people for town reading her for it. And most of the rest are apparently slanking and waiting for a mech solve to absolve them of responsibility. So, yeah, here we are...and if the wolves convince the town to chop a claimed vig...cherry on top.

I mean okay, I do want to spite dunk. Yes. but like, one good town does not a strong town make, nor does one incompetent make a weak town. Both marmot and Cat were chopped in fairly large wagons.

for me, right now, I think it's more likely that you're not bad than are. so i'll ask you take a step back and reeval. if all three people you're sussing--me, nutella, tutuu-- were bad, it would be stupid for all three of us to push you right now, especially since we'd know for sure you're town, and it'd be a mislynch.
Outside of the 3 of us, where are you looking?

I think I've been pretty open about having no reads this game, throughout. I was Mac's little sheep for two days, and now I'm a rabid dog with a gun. I answered your question about bad town. Bad town is not the same as wolf. Nutella and her piss poor read on me is still town, just bad town. You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun. Tutuu I think is probably just a wolf.

Outside of that...looking? I'm barely even reading. I'm certainly not backreading. The back and forth between Ted and LC I skimmed looking for possible memes. LC's questioning of me seems benign so I have no immediate urge to shoot him. HK has said nothing about me that isn't true, but that's NAI...he's too smart to try to push for a chop on a claimed town vig as a wolf.

Exactly, that's what i'm saying. Incompetent town, not wolf. Town isn't incompetent if they sheep the right people. Also this is GOC, it's prob best to assume people are playing well.

..also...
"You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun."

I'm really not. Like i have this whole thing where I'm most comfortable when people sus me. It's when everyone think i'm town that i'm kinda spooked.

The barrel, she calms me.

Yeah, syn is just town

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:39 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:34 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:20 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:41 pm also rn I'm only half in thread, half on the other side of a bong

but Tim, how is town bad this game? we got 2 back to back baddie kills

high gth reads now gogoogogogogogogo

Kyle - probably town, maybe 3p
nutella- probably town
tutuu- probably town
Jpic- lean town
wilgy- lean town
Hyena- lean scum
Syn- lean scum
Hollowkatt- lean scum (but I still don't have a clue what was happening with Thunal early game)
Made- probably town
Nanook- probably scum
Dizzy- lean town
Sloonei- null
Tim- lean scum
Falcon- null tbh. I'm still filtering at reads from spiderverse tbh
radish- lean scum ( makes sense especially if Tim is town)
Ted- null
Michelle- probably town
112- probably scum...actually [VOTE: 112] aubergine
jack- null
LC- gth town, but not a strong read
TSP-null
Martin- lean town
Alison- lean 3p

I'm the person who first sussed and cased marmot but ok i guess

This is accurate.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:37 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:29 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:46 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:37 pm "I am now a vig is an interesting way to say it.

I needed time to charge weapons. So I chose the annoying intentional slank as a way to avoid the NK. I'm usually towny enough to avoid rational cases so I figured I'd make it at least far enough to get off one shot, claim it, and eat a night kill. That's good enough contribution from me I think.

rofl

so you're telling us that you sussed people with delayed abilities, because they're delayed

while apparently YOUR ability is delayed too, AND it takes three days to charge?

lolololol

No...I WORRIED about how Kyle told the town he would be spending the day charging up and the town shrugged and said "cool, let's see what charged up Kyle can do then" without seeming to consider that Kyle might be charging a killing machine and may not be towns best friend...specifically because, yes I also was charging a killing machine.

That's not the same thing as sussing him.

you're not charging up a killing machine

you were worried that kyle was gonna do a massive soup kill after a single day's charge

this does not compare to your "i'm charging for three days for one kill" claim

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:40 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:25 pm

Spoiler: show

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:41 pm also rn I'm only half in thread, half on the other side of a bong

but Tim, how is town bad this game? we got 2 back to back baddie kills

Mac I credit for that...you on the other hand want to kill me for spite, and Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

Tutuu I think is pretty well open wolfing and getting town read for it, and then openly mocking people for town reading her for it. And most of the rest are apparently slanking and waiting for a mech solve to absolve them of responsibility. So, yeah, here we are...and if the wolves convince the town to chop a claimed vig...cherry on top.

I mean okay, I do want to spite dunk. Yes. but like, one good town does not a strong town make, nor does one incompetent make a weak town. Both marmot and Cat were chopped in fairly large wagons.

for me, right now, I think it's more likely that you're not bad than are. so i'll ask you take a step back and reeval. if all three people you're sussing--me, nutella, tutuu-- were bad, it would be stupid for all three of us to push you right now, especially since we'd know for sure you're town, and it'd be a mislynch.
Outside of the 3 of us, where are you looking?

I think I've been pretty open about having no reads this game, throughout. I was Mac's little sheep for two days, and now I'm a rabid dog with a gun. I answered your question about bad town. Bad town is not the same as wolf. Nutella and her piss poor read on me is still town, just bad town. You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun. Tutuu I think is probably just a wolf.

Outside of that...looking? I'm barely even reading. I'm certainly not backreading. The back and forth between Ted and LC I skimmed looking for possible memes. LC's questioning of me seems benign so I have no immediate urge to shoot him. HK has said nothing about me that isn't true, but that's NAI...he's too smart to try to push for a chop on a claimed town vig as a wolf.

Exactly, that's what i'm saying. Incompetent town, not wolf. Town isn't incompetent if they sheep the right people. Also this is GOC, it's prob best to assume people are playing well.

..also...
"You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun."

I'm really not. Like i have this whole thing where I'm most comfortable when people sus me. It's when everyone think i'm town that i'm kinda spooked.

The barrel, she calms me.

put on the cat ears

how long did it take for the marmot wagon to form? it seemed pretty quick

what are the optics on teammate hop-on potentiality

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:40 pm also the person who picked marmot for the flash wagon out of a list of options lol

tbf, I need to go back and read how that went down. I was tunneled on Tim, and pissed people seemed to switch to him on a whim

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:38 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:29 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:29 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:06 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

okay fuck this

first of all

i am not on a "tunnel rampage"

i think this may be town indicative but it's bad play

and this is not like the other time i saw you pr

like tutuu said i don't understand why you claimed at sod

it's bizarre and suboptimal imo

feisty, you can be town

or a wolf unhappy a push is getting away

Spoiler: show

but still probably town

Nutella's just town and I am pissing her off...mostly intentionally.

literally anti town to do this

so far all the mafia have been named after animals

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:42 pm so far all the mafia have been named after animals

i knew a cat named kyle once

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:42 pm so far all the mafia have been named after animals

*rushes to dm dunya and epi*

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:42 pm so far all the mafia have been named after animals

falcon:

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:42 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:42 pm so far all the mafia have been named after animals

i knew a cat named kyle once

Is this true????

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:43 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:42 pm so far all the mafia have been named after animals

falcon:

Hyena is so town tho

Im just gonna sheep syn tbh

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:41 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:40 pm also the person who picked marmot for the flash wagon out of a list of options lol

tbf, I need to go back and read how that went down. I was tunneled on Tim, and pissed people seemed to switch to him on a whim

And I was gonna just stay on you because I really had no reads. I only moved in response to JPICs plea for a bigger wagon.

FWIW I am really hoping that you respond to the threat here and lead the day to a successful wolf chop that makes you lock town.

hyena 3p

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:44 pm Im just gonna sheep syn tbh

pls don't kill me

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:22 pm made amd marmot are unlikely to be teammates because they've already been teammates in the last 3 months. the goddess of luck would never allow that

can you point me at that luck goddess, that brat and I have some words to exchange

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:44 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:42 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:42 pm so far all the mafia have been named after animals

i knew a cat named kyle once

Is this true????

I think that you, me, Mac, and Martin are the only players using given names for screen names...Mac's town, I'm town...if you are town should we just clear Martin or nah?

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:41 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:40 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:25 pm

Spoiler: show

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:41 pm also rn I'm only half in thread, half on the other side of a bong

but Tim, how is town bad this game? we got 2 back to back baddie kills

Mac I credit for that...you on the other hand want to kill me for spite, and Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

Tutuu I think is pretty well open wolfing and getting town read for it, and then openly mocking people for town reading her for it. And most of the rest are apparently slanking and waiting for a mech solve to absolve them of responsibility. So, yeah, here we are...and if the wolves convince the town to chop a claimed vig...cherry on top.

I mean okay, I do want to spite dunk. Yes. but like, one good town does not a strong town make, nor does one incompetent make a weak town. Both marmot and Cat were chopped in fairly large wagons.

for me, right now, I think it's more likely that you're not bad than are. so i'll ask you take a step back and reeval. if all three people you're sussing--me, nutella, tutuu-- were bad, it would be stupid for all three of us to push you right now, especially since we'd know for sure you're town, and it'd be a mislynch.
Outside of the 3 of us, where are you looking?

I think I've been pretty open about having no reads this game, throughout. I was Mac's little sheep for two days, and now I'm a rabid dog with a gun. I answered your question about bad town. Bad town is not the same as wolf. Nutella and her piss poor read on me is still town, just bad town. You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun. Tutuu I think is probably just a wolf.

Outside of that...looking? I'm barely even reading. I'm certainly not backreading. The back and forth between Ted and LC I skimmed looking for possible memes. LC's questioning of me seems benign so I have no immediate urge to shoot him. HK has said nothing about me that isn't true, but that's NAI...he's too smart to try to push for a chop on a claimed town vig as a wolf.

Exactly, that's what i'm saying. Incompetent town, not wolf. Town isn't incompetent if they sheep the right people. Also this is GOC, it's prob best to assume people are playing well.

..also...
"You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun."

I'm really not. Like i have this whole thing where I'm most comfortable when people sus me. It's when everyone think i'm town that i'm kinda spooked.

The barrel, she calms me.

put on the cat ears

make me

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:48 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:22 pm made amd marmot are unlikely to be teammates because they've already been teammates in the last 3 months. the goddess of luck would never allow that

can you point me at that luck goddess, that brat and I have some words to exchange

Should we tell him that we randed wolf together two games in a row?

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:49 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:41 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:40 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:25 pm

Spoiler: show

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:41 pm also rn I'm only half in thread, half on the other side of a bong

but Tim, how is town bad this game? we got 2 back to back baddie kills

Mac I credit for that...you on the other hand want to kill me for spite, and Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

Tutuu I think is pretty well open wolfing and getting town read for it, and then openly mocking people for town reading her for it. And most of the rest are apparently slanking and waiting for a mech solve to absolve them of responsibility. So, yeah, here we are...and if the wolves convince the town to chop a claimed vig...cherry on top.

I mean okay, I do want to spite dunk. Yes. but like, one good town does not a strong town make, nor does one incompetent make a weak town. Both marmot and Cat were chopped in fairly large wagons.

for me, right now, I think it's more likely that you're not bad than are. so i'll ask you take a step back and reeval. if all three people you're sussing--me, nutella, tutuu-- were bad, it would be stupid for all three of us to push you right now, especially since we'd know for sure you're town, and it'd be a mislynch.
Outside of the 3 of us, where are you looking?

I think I've been pretty open about having no reads this game, throughout. I was Mac's little sheep for two days, and now I'm a rabid dog with a gun. I answered your question about bad town. Bad town is not the same as wolf. Nutella and her piss poor read on me is still town, just bad town. You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun. Tutuu I think is probably just a wolf.

Outside of that...looking? I'm barely even reading. I'm certainly not backreading. The back and forth between Ted and LC I skimmed looking for possible memes. LC's questioning of me seems benign so I have no immediate urge to shoot him. HK has said nothing about me that isn't true, but that's NAI...he's too smart to try to push for a chop on a claimed town vig as a wolf.

Exactly, that's what i'm saying. Incompetent town, not wolf. Town isn't incompetent if they sheep the right people. Also this is GOC, it's prob best to assume people are playing well.

..also...
"You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun."

I'm really not. Like i have this whole thing where I'm most comfortable when people sus me. It's when everyone think i'm town that i'm kinda spooked.

The barrel, she calms me.

put on the cat ears

make me

wait i stg i was on a mafia with made and marmot once

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:52 pm I AM DEAD

big if true

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:52 pm I AM DEAD

wait, mac died?

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:25 pm

Spoiler: show

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:41 pm also rn I'm only half in thread, half on the other side of a bong

but Tim, how is town bad this game? we got 2 back to back baddie kills

Mac I credit for that...you on the other hand want to kill me for spite, and Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

Tutuu I think is pretty well open wolfing and getting town read for it, and then openly mocking people for town reading her for it. And most of the rest are apparently slanking and waiting for a mech solve to absolve them of responsibility. So, yeah, here we are...and if the wolves convince the town to chop a claimed vig...cherry on top.

I mean okay, I do want to spite dunk. Yes. but like, one good town does not a strong town make, nor does one incompetent make a weak town. Both marmot and Cat were chopped in fairly large wagons.

for me, right now, I think it's more likely that you're not bad than are. so i'll ask you take a step back and reeval. if all three people you're sussing--me, nutella, tutuu-- were bad, it would be stupid for all three of us to push you right now, especially since we'd know for sure you're town, and it'd be a mislynch.
Outside of the 3 of us, where are you looking?

I think I've been pretty open about having no reads this game, throughout. I was Mac's little sheep for two days, and now I'm a rabid dog with a gun. I answered your question about bad town. Bad town is not the same as wolf. Nutella and her piss poor read on me is still town, just bad town. You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun. Tutuu I think is probably just a wolf.

Outside of that...looking? I'm barely even reading. I'm certainly not backreading. The back and forth between Ted and LC I skimmed looking for possible memes. LC's questioning of me seems benign so I have no immediate urge to shoot him. HK has said nothing about me that isn't true, but that's NAI...he's too smart to try to push for a chop on a claimed town vig as a wolf.

I see you in the corner ignoring me.

also wait, has anyone ever claimed dead before?

Like can you do that?

I should sleep

Behave scallywags

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:54 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:25 pm

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Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:41 pm also rn I'm only half in thread, half on the other side of a bong

but Tim, how is town bad this game? we got 2 back to back baddie kills

Mac I credit for that...you on the other hand want to kill me for spite, and Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

Tutuu I think is pretty well open wolfing and getting town read for it, and then openly mocking people for town reading her for it. And most of the rest are apparently slanking and waiting for a mech solve to absolve them of responsibility. So, yeah, here we are...and if the wolves convince the town to chop a claimed vig...cherry on top.

I mean okay, I do want to spite dunk. Yes. but like, one good town does not a strong town make, nor does one incompetent make a weak town. Both marmot and Cat were chopped in fairly large wagons.

for me, right now, I think it's more likely that you're not bad than are. so i'll ask you take a step back and reeval. if all three people you're sussing--me, nutella, tutuu-- were bad, it would be stupid for all three of us to push you right now, especially since we'd know for sure you're town, and it'd be a mislynch.
Outside of the 3 of us, where are you looking?

I think I've been pretty open about having no reads this game, throughout. I was Mac's little sheep for two days, and now I'm a rabid dog with a gun. I answered your question about bad town. Bad town is not the same as wolf. Nutella and her piss poor read on me is still town, just bad town. You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun. Tutuu I think is probably just a wolf.

Outside of that...looking? I'm barely even reading. I'm certainly not backreading. The back and forth between Ted and LC I skimmed looking for possible memes. LC's questioning of me seems benign so I have no immediate urge to shoot him. HK has said nothing about me that isn't true, but that's NAI...he's too smart to try to push for a chop on a claimed town vig as a wolf.

I see you in the corner ignoring me.

he ignored all my posts calling out his f-tier bullshit too

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:51 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:49 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:41 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:40 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:25 pm

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Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Mac I credit for that...you on the other hand want to kill me for spite, and Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

Tutuu I think is pretty well open wolfing and getting town read for it, and then openly mocking people for town reading her for it. And most of the rest are apparently slanking and waiting for a mech solve to absolve them of responsibility. So, yeah, here we are...and if the wolves convince the town to chop a claimed vig...cherry on top.

I mean okay, I do want to spite dunk. Yes. but like, one good town does not a strong town make, nor does one incompetent make a weak town. Both marmot and Cat were chopped in fairly large wagons.

for me, right now, I think it's more likely that you're not bad than are. so i'll ask you take a step back and reeval. if all three people you're sussing--me, nutella, tutuu-- were bad, it would be stupid for all three of us to push you right now, especially since we'd know for sure you're town, and it'd be a mislynch.
Outside of the 3 of us, where are you looking?

I think I've been pretty open about having no reads this game, throughout. I was Mac's little sheep for two days, and now I'm a rabid dog with a gun. I answered your question about bad town. Bad town is not the same as wolf. Nutella and her piss poor read on me is still town, just bad town. You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun. Tutuu I think is probably just a wolf.

Outside of that...looking? I'm barely even reading. I'm certainly not backreading. The back and forth between Ted and LC I skimmed looking for possible memes. LC's questioning of me seems benign so I have no immediate urge to shoot him. HK has said nothing about me that isn't true, but that's NAI...he's too smart to try to push for a chop on a claimed town vig as a wolf.

Exactly, that's what i'm saying. Incompetent town, not wolf. Town isn't incompetent if they sheep the right people. Also this is GOC, it's prob best to assume people are playing well.

..also...
"You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun."

I'm really not. Like i have this whole thing where I'm most comfortable when people sus me. It's when everyone think i'm town that i'm kinda spooked.

The barrel, she calms me.

put on the cat ears

make me

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nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:31 pm

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hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:23 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:55 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:42 pm fwiw, Tim is probably town here, pushing me hard would be a really bizzare move for baddies

i kinda think so too but like

ugh

it's so annoying lol

hk too, and hk is giving me weird vibes in his reaction the ted/lc stuff (not that i fully followed that myself tbh, but hk seems to be tagging on for a reason to push lc)

That's a weird take from my questions to both of them. I asked a few questions to have a better understanding of what the two of them are doing with regards to each other. Dunno how you get "hk pushing lc" out of that though, that's the weird take

this right here

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:41 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:29 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:22 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:19 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:10 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:59 pm alright LC, since i can’t sleep and decided not to troll anymore

why do you think i’m a wolf again?

I remember I had a reason. You asking Joseph to come and case me more than once was sketchville. And your valentine post pinged me as well.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:09 am @Alison if your wincon is to have half of the number of the people alive bargained with you, then why'd you out that you gave LC the track?

This feels a little like wolfy mindset. And since you asked, and made me go back and look, the following quote is absolutely phony, wolfy, fake-solving.

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

lol, again, you wolfed with me before. why would i need to make mac push you in a playerlist with 22 players that i could fake a read on if i were a wolf? or why is that wolf indicative?

pretty sure i’ve never made someone else do my pushes for me as a wolf

It's not something I recall seeing in either alignment, so I had to decide what I thought it meant. I don't like it. "You wolfed with me before" isn't at all convincing to me, I'm supposed to remember your style or something?

yeah, because i pulled probably what amounts to 3 different omega cases in order to keep you alive in saga, so you saying that with that knowledge felt like a “wtf???”

implying i’d ever need the help of someone in order to get you killed and jumping to it being wolfy with that knowledge felt slimy

I like this

You're reading an awful lot into three little words nutella, so I'll be straight up with you. Do you have The Fear?
Because all I said there was "I like this" because it felt valid and it felt like it was coming from a place of honesty. Not that I trust tedxtr and wolf read LC, but that tedxtr seems to be making a post that would, if it were accurate, potentially out him as wolf this game based on prior actions. I'm reading that as trying to be tonally pure.

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:55 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:54 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:25 pm

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Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:41 pm also rn I'm only half in thread, half on the other side of a bong

but Tim, how is town bad this game? we got 2 back to back baddie kills

Mac I credit for that...you on the other hand want to kill me for spite, and Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

Tutuu I think is pretty well open wolfing and getting town read for it, and then openly mocking people for town reading her for it. And most of the rest are apparently slanking and waiting for a mech solve to absolve them of responsibility. So, yeah, here we are...and if the wolves convince the town to chop a claimed vig...cherry on top.

I mean okay, I do want to spite dunk. Yes. but like, one good town does not a strong town make, nor does one incompetent make a weak town. Both marmot and Cat were chopped in fairly large wagons.

for me, right now, I think it's more likely that you're not bad than are. so i'll ask you take a step back and reeval. if all three people you're sussing--me, nutella, tutuu-- were bad, it would be stupid for all three of us to push you right now, especially since we'd know for sure you're town, and it'd be a mislynch.
Outside of the 3 of us, where are you looking?

I think I've been pretty open about having no reads this game, throughout. I was Mac's little sheep for two days, and now I'm a rabid dog with a gun. I answered your question about bad town. Bad town is not the same as wolf. Nutella and her piss poor read on me is still town, just bad town. You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun. Tutuu I think is probably just a wolf.

Outside of that...looking? I'm barely even reading. I'm certainly not backreading. The back and forth between Ted and LC I skimmed looking for possible memes. LC's questioning of me seems benign so I have no immediate urge to shoot him. HK has said nothing about me that isn't true, but that's NAI...he's too smart to try to push for a chop on a claimed town vig as a wolf.

I see you in the corner ignoring me.

he ignored all my posts calling out his f-tier bullshit too

I responded to the ones that were more than just whining.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:00 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:55 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:54 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:25 pm

Spoiler: show

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:41 pm also rn I'm only half in thread, half on the other side of a bong

but Tim, how is town bad this game? we got 2 back to back baddie kills

Mac I credit for that...you on the other hand want to kill me for spite, and Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

Tutuu I think is pretty well open wolfing and getting town read for it, and then openly mocking people for town reading her for it. And most of the rest are apparently slanking and waiting for a mech solve to absolve them of responsibility. So, yeah, here we are...and if the wolves convince the town to chop a claimed vig...cherry on top.

I mean okay, I do want to spite dunk. Yes. but like, one good town does not a strong town make, nor does one incompetent make a weak town. Both marmot and Cat were chopped in fairly large wagons.

for me, right now, I think it's more likely that you're not bad than are. so i'll ask you take a step back and reeval. if all three people you're sussing--me, nutella, tutuu-- were bad, it would be stupid for all three of us to push you right now, especially since we'd know for sure you're town, and it'd be a mislynch.
Outside of the 3 of us, where are you looking?

I think I've been pretty open about having no reads this game, throughout. I was Mac's little sheep for two days, and now I'm a rabid dog with a gun. I answered your question about bad town. Bad town is not the same as wolf. Nutella and her piss poor read on me is still town, just bad town. You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun. Tutuu I think is probably just a wolf.

Outside of that...looking? I'm barely even reading. I'm certainly not backreading. The back and forth between Ted and LC I skimmed looking for possible memes. LC's questioning of me seems benign so I have no immediate urge to shoot him. HK has said nothing about me that isn't true, but that's NAI...he's too smart to try to push for a chop on a claimed town vig as a wolf.

I see you in the corner ignoring me.

he ignored all my posts calling out his f-tier bullshit too

I responded to the ones that were more than just whining.

die

[VOTE: tim] aubergine

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:00 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:00 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:55 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:54 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:25 pm

Spoiler: show

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:59 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 pm

Mac I credit for that...you on the other hand want to kill me for spite, and Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

Tutuu I think is pretty well open wolfing and getting town read for it, and then openly mocking people for town reading her for it. And most of the rest are apparently slanking and waiting for a mech solve to absolve them of responsibility. So, yeah, here we are...and if the wolves convince the town to chop a claimed vig...cherry on top.

I mean okay, I do want to spite dunk. Yes. but like, one good town does not a strong town make, nor does one incompetent make a weak town. Both marmot and Cat were chopped in fairly large wagons.

for me, right now, I think it's more likely that you're not bad than are. so i'll ask you take a step back and reeval. if all three people you're sussing--me, nutella, tutuu-- were bad, it would be stupid for all three of us to push you right now, especially since we'd know for sure you're town, and it'd be a mislynch.
Outside of the 3 of us, where are you looking?

I think I've been pretty open about having no reads this game, throughout. I was Mac's little sheep for two days, and now I'm a rabid dog with a gun. I answered your question about bad town. Bad town is not the same as wolf. Nutella and her piss poor read on me is still town, just bad town. You're on tilt if you are town...understandable since you are staring down the barrel of the gun. Tutuu I think is probably just a wolf.

Outside of that...looking? I'm barely even reading. I'm certainly not backreading. The back and forth between Ted and LC I skimmed looking for possible memes. LC's questioning of me seems benign so I have no immediate urge to shoot him. HK has said nothing about me that isn't true, but that's NAI...he's too smart to try to push for a chop on a claimed town vig as a wolf.

I see you in the corner ignoring me.

he ignored all my posts calling out his f-tier bullshit too

I responded to the ones that were more than just whining.

die

[VOTE: tim] aubergine

Not likely today, but sure. No endgame for me.

my posts calling you out were very exact on why your claim is bad and why your play is bad

that is not whining, it is called solving

Eh, I should probably repost what I was/am telling HK since I feel like that could get lost if people aren't paying attention. I think this is kinda important.

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:56 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:28 pm Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:44 pm Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

Nute, Made, Time, and Mac are the four people that were on both EoD scum wagons. I was already townreading all four of them, but I think this strengthens my townreads on all four of them (well, Mac is confirmed town now since he'd dead, but still!).

On the other hand, Nanook, Tutuu, Ted, Falcon, Dizzy, and Marmot were on the D1 wagon that yeeted a scum, but weren't on the D2 wagon. One of these people (Marmot) has flipped scum. If there were any other bussers on Cat, I'd look at these six people first and foremost because I don't think scum would want to lose two teammates in a row, and thus wouldn't be on Marmot's wagon EoD2?

So, just to go over the five people in that latter group,

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Nanook
I was scumreading Nanook for the same reason I was scumreading Marmot -- neither of them went/have gone out of their way to interact with me when they have done so previously when they've been town. I mentioned this previously in these posts,

Hyena wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:49 pm Nanook - I'm gravitating towards scumreading him now. Friendo hasn't engaged me directly at all D1. I feel like he doesn't care about what happens to me in game. He's someone that I believe has a good read on me in general. He wouldn't just sit back and and let me get townread or scumread -- he'd get involved in the discussion, methinks.

Hyena wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:37 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:34 pm I had Marmot as v, can you give me details about your read?

There aren't a lot of details. It's simply a matter of I think Marmot would have engaged me more, even if only in a joking way, if he were town. I can only recount one interaction I've had with him.

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Tutuu
Of the five people in the list, she scares me the most right now for how outspoken she was about not wanting to vote Marmot. Also, after reading some of the recent interactions between Tutuu and Martin, I worry that their relationship in this game is mirroring similar relationships I've had with people in game that I've townread people regardless of their alignment... basically basing it completely off how enjoyable I'm finding someone (past examples for me include Elephant/Mendel, Trustworthy, and Evenstar).

Anyway, here are the posts about Marmot that scared me (in order), And then here are the interactions Martin is having with Tutuu that make me think Martin could be town getting pocketed by scum!Tutuu, -----------------------------

(I'll continue this in a moment!)

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:48 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:44 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:42 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:42 pm so far all the mafia have been named after animals

i knew a cat named kyle once

Is this true????

I think that you, me, Mac, and Martin are the only players using given names for screen names...Mac's town, I'm town...if you are town should we just clear Martin or nah?

Martin's not my given name, Marshall is.

But considering online sources are the most frequent social interaction I get (where my username is martin) you might as well consider my given name to be Martin anyways lol.

I'm not sure clearing me is a good idea for anyone as any alignment. If a town calls me town correctly despite any controversy its likely considered TMI; considering how I've been suspected of TMI for having (what I believe to be) correct town reads on Tutuu and the Thunal/HK slot.

Syn wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:02 pm my posts calling you out were very exact on why your claim is bad and why your play is bad

that is not whining, it is called solving

Which is all fine right up to the point where your solving leads to wanting to chop me. If I am a town vig I will certainly die before end game...probably before I get a second shot off. Typically the NK is the end of the process chain so the wolves will either let my shot go if I am likely to shoot town and then kill me, or block my shot if they think I would hit a wolf and then kill me. Either way, i wind up solved long before the town really has to worry about me.'

So why you want to chop me now?