The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 amIt was weird, you live with her, you know exactly how busy she is or isn't, you're not an appropriate player to be putting down a pressure vote on her. It's FAKE.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:33 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 amIt was weird, you live with her, you know exactly how busy she is or isn't, you're not an appropriate player to be putting down a pressure vote on her. It's FAKE.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:48 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:46 pm MP showed up. I appreciate it. I know how time is tight. But I don't feel the passion and heat and fury of a thousand suns. Something's just not there and I'd feel like a baboon's ass if it were just a time issue and being worried about everything in RL. But I can't shake that feeling off.

If you don't feel what I'm bringing right now, I don't know what to say. "Something's just not there". Elaborate. Point to a post. This just reads like an excuse to justify consistency on me, and I find that suspect.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:24 pm Because he lives with me. This has 0 to do with my role, or even his alignment. Why does no one find it weird that a spouse puts a pressure vote on someone knowing full well if they have had time to be in the thread or not. If you lived with someone who was playing, and knew for a fact they have not been in the thread, would you put a pressure vote on them? how does a pressure vote get me in here? It doesn't. I am affected by it literally not at all. Thus I find it ridiculous, useless and easy. Pressure vote someone who you don't know if has been in the thread, sure. That makes sense.

dunya wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:49 pm

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:24 pm Because he lives with me. This has 0 to do with my role, or even his alignment. Why does no one find it weird that a spouse puts a pressure vote on someone knowing full well if they have had time to be in the thread or not. If you lived with someone who was playing, and knew for a fact they have not been in the thread, would you put a pressure vote on them? how does a pressure vote get me in here? It doesn't. I am affected by it literally not at all. Thus I find it ridiculous, useless and easy. Pressure vote someone who you don't know if has been in the thread, sure. That makes sense.

I understand that, I'd probably be peeved by it too.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 11:09 am MovingPictures07 Enjoy the last time you get any response whatsoever from your "pressure vote" which does literally 0 to get me to read or post, I think it is useless and you will never hear me comment on it again. this time around you didn't even say you thought I was suspicious. Which in itself is mildly suspicious because last time it got a very passionate reaction from me. Is that why you didn't use it here? Either way, your so called pressure vote on me is in my opinion easy and therefore lazy.

btw, I could see a DDL/MP pairing as well, given how DDL was hem hawing between MP and Quin and then ended up voting Quin.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:33 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 amIt was weird, you live with her, you know exactly how busy she is or isn't, you're not an appropriate player to be putting down a pressure vote on her. It's FAKE.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 am

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:02 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:51 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 9:03 pm

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 8:54 pm Oh I see I’m joining a wagon

Still going ti keep my vote there but I don’t think we should let anyone become a consensus or avoid putting pressure on as many people as possible. Spread the love around. Lol

Hey, buddy pal friend, not super terribly fond of this here move.

I agree with this. Scumdar10 rating for MP07: 5.9

What was there to agree with? Explain. This is suspicious at face value, like you're just attaching onto a reason to suspect someone.

Even Kyle's initial reaction wasn't ideal, because he doesn't explain what he doesn't like about it once it's apparent I'm gone from the thread, but I'm less bothered by that. I'm bothered by this.

A widespread vote makes it really easy for the mafia to control the lynch. You know this.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:04 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:08 pm Yeah, also that Daisy vote irked me about MP07's play today. That was just weird.

Spoiler: show

"Weird" and "interesting" are words that mafia loves to throw around, while they noncommittedly make no argument or assessment as to why what they're observing is alignment-indicative.

Explain, LC. You look scummy.

People of both alignments use those words. What Mafia do is try to dress word-usage up as alignment-indicative. It was weird, you live with her, you know exactly how busy she is or isn't, you're not an appropriate player to be putting down a pressure vote on her. It's FAKE.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:09 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:11 pm Votes I'm willing to end on: DDL, MP07, speedchuck, sig... Quin if none of those are viable.

This is player salad. I hate it.

I really think LC is bad. He needs to answer for this.

I still don't like the "trying too hard" accusation because I think that's nonsense, but I wasn't willing to scumread him for it because I know it's one that LC regularly throws at mine and others' direction.

How the hell was he consensus townread during the GTH exercise? If I was caught up, there's no way I'd have given him a town reading.

More clichés. Player salad indeed. Those are the players that I discussed during the day that I came away feeling suspicious about. You can even see the various levels of my suspicion for those players laid out clearly as Scumdar10 ratings. Naming them all in one post isn't suspicious, it's called consistency, and it was a good way to remind everyone of where I stand for the lynch.

You think you have found a weakness in me to exploit, but you are wrong. And you are going down, tomorrow if I get my way.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:08 pm How you can’t even fathom why I suspect you only for you to turn it around on me reeks of opportunism and you’re the one who looks fake.

NewTraditionalist wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:14 pm Shiver me timbers, mateys. The 3 sided coin decided the 1st days splinterfoot. I wasn't able to see any of yas as surely bad but hopefully that changes.

my only read so far:

Kylemii = good (for being concerned re: distracted driving...how can that be a scum poster?)

I hope to dodge the flintlock this evening and see all of you with the sunrise.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:00 pm Play nice, lads, and make sure you put a filthy scab in the water at the end of the day! Arr!

Quin wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 11:13 pm

sig wrote: ↑Tue Oct 31, 2017 10:23 pm Switched to NewTraditionalist until they post.

I didn't read Kyle's post as that odd or pingy.

I figured MP was messing/flirting with you over that vote Daisy, I'm surprised you're taking it that way.

I've got nothing else to add besides the fact that I think either DDL or LC is bad, but not both. The other baddies are either semi active or inactive I believe. I must be off for the time, but I'll be back tomorrow.

I don't understand how you can form an assumption like this on Day 1. Does this mean you're currently town-reading all the other active players?

dunya wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 2:11 pm People I'd be willing to lynch today in order:

Kyle - I appreciate the excuse of being rusty (me too dude, apart from Seinfeld I played here, and the few days I was alive in Street Fighter mafia, I haven't played in aaaages). Still, something strikes me as insincere. Something strikes me as being mafia and trying to hard to be townie. Something strikes me as playing it too safe and trying to appear purposely unknowledgeable. I stand by it. Even yesterdays "rainbow list and reads" were like a mafia coverup trying to keep everyone somewhat happy because you're taking initiative and making an effort so to keep them at bay. Didn't like it.

MovingPicture - I want to say your dissertation is reason of your absence. But you have people suspecting you. Townie you would be going bonkers at this point. You haven't made a suspect list. Your contributions day 1 were out there, but timid. Every time someone answered a query, you said you were happy with that explanation. Where are you? Why aren't you probing harder? Why are you encouraging a Day 1 no-poster lynch?

Quin - wishy washy. Had him down as semi-town. Participation has dwindled down quite noticeably and I wonder if that's in part due to fear of being eliminated since some heat was thrown his way, and wanting to show up at the eleventh hour to cast a vote. Seems too obvious, so I don't like it. Prove me wrong.

sig wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:00 pm Can't talk in class will explain vote later

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:34 pm Perhaps I'm finding it hard to be objective on Kyle because I'm just so happy to have him back around and really don't want to lynch the guy on D1 of his first game back when he's been dying to play a game. I should throw that sentiment out to the window, but I can't seem to be able to.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:48 pm Ok Im still here.

I dont like this day end.

I dont like how quin and mp are not voting each oter.

Cfd on wilgy guys?

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:50 pm

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:49 pm

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:46 pm dunya, you're here. Talk to me. Pick just one person who should go and why, hurry.

Explain your thoughts now. This is nonsense.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:54 pmnvm i voted wilgy

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:28 pm It seems the towniest thing to do is not be here for the latter half of the day. Thanks GTH reads.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:38 pm
- LC and sig are the most consensus townread players. Based on what I'm familiar with at the start of the game, the LC consensus isn't surprising, but the sig one is. Note to self: need to look into this and see what people have said about sig itt.

Quin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 5:57 pm Wilgy's posting gambit is annoying but not suspicious < Was pinged once by dunya

Moved to dunya.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2017 7:26 pm Wow that sucks.

Sorry Wilgy.

This is what happened, guys: I wasn't feeling very sure on either the Quin or the MP lynch. And don't even get me staretd on NT because I despise lynches on inactives.

So I saw someone mentioned they wanted Wilgy to be punished for his posting. I didn't have an opinion on him at all. But having seen CFDs work in the past, I thought "why not?" and tried to push one on him. Maybe it could reveal us something. I dunno.

It didn't work though.

Though it might have revealed something, from what I'm seeing (I'm not fully caught up)

first you apologize then after you try to give some reasoning, I also find it pingy for why you explain your CFD

sig wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:10 pm Speed said he didn't like CFDs so I'm curious why he was the first voter on Wilgy's wagon. @speedchuck could you explain this or quote your explanation?

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 4:08 pmBullshit LC you are so bad, you even seem overly concerned with being consistent which is yet again a more likely trait of mafia than town.

AND you’re absolutely misrepresenting me, you know damn well what I meant. Yes, of course town players can use ‘weird’ or ‘interesting’ and do, but at least very soundly in my experience mafia love getting attention on other players without dirtying their hands and that’s exactly what I thought you we’re doing.

Player salad is also a legitimate tell; I just saw your teammates get rightfully caught for it in Seinfeld. You threw out a bunch of different possibilities for your vote and that’s suspect because especially this early you can plant seeds and then flexibly vote for any number of options.

Anyway I am on phone and busy and will respond more later, seriously leaving now. How you can’t even fathom why I suspect you only for you to turn it around on me reeks of opportunism and you’re the one who looks fake.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 am

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:02 amWhat was there to agree with? Explain. This is suspicious at face value, like you're just attaching onto a reason to suspect someone.

Even Kyle's initial reaction wasn't ideal, because he doesn't explain what he doesn't like about it once it's apparent I'm gone from the thread, but I'm less bothered by that. I'm bothered by this.

A widespread vote makes it really easy for the mafia to control the lynch. You know this.

MovingPictures07 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:56 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 2:33 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:29 amIt was weird, you live with her, you know exactly how busy she is or isn't, you're not an appropriate player to be putting down a pressure vote on her. It's FAKE.

You’re wrong, and clearly just trying to smear me at this point.

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:54 pm Who were the player's with 2 or more votes near the end of the lynch yesterday? There was DDL, DrWilgy, MP, Quin was there anyone else?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 6:23 am So I've been playing 3 games at once which means I put this one in the fridge. Will catch up now.

(though there doesn't seen to be many posts to catch up on)

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:38 pm It's not the first time MP's pressure vote for Daisy has been called into question. The same thing that happened in this thread happened in another game (though to a lesser extent) in The Search for Quin. It was pretty well established in that game that pressure votes between them don't carry much weight, since significant others should well know eachother's availability. Yet he does it anyway here. While he had a back and forth about it with her in TSFQ, he doesn't respond in this game. I could see a baddie MP trying to cover his bases on Day 1 like this.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:11 am

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2017 4:38 pm It's not the first time MP's pressure vote for Daisy has been called into question. The same thing that happened in this thread happened in another game (though to a lesser extent) in The Search for Quin. It was pretty well established in that game that pressure votes between them don't carry much weight, since significant others should well know eachother's availability. Yet he does it anyway here. While he had a back and forth about it with her in TSFQ, he doesn't respond in this game. I could see a baddie MP trying to cover his bases on Day 1 like this.

One thing that I've noticed is that arguing with MP over the point of applying his methods is futile. He is strongly believer in the more info = better reads concept, which I partially agree with. So he will put pressure votes in hopes of obtaining anything no matter how meaningful or meaningless it might be. And he did obtrain an angry reaction from Daisy, so it's not like the exercise was futile (what that reaction means is another story).