The Syndicate

Next time I’m bad, I’m going to see if I can get into one of these day 1 dick measuring contests with a teammate to test all of you who are sure you can sus out when these things are scripted.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:36 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:34 pm I’m seeing a civ-civ altercation with Dom and sig

In 500 words or fewer please explain your answer. Guiding questions might be: "Why did sig vote for Dom?" "Why did sig stop voting for Dom?" "Why did sig personally attack Dom, repeatedly?" "What did sig hope to accomplish by the post Dom has bemoaned?"


Thank you for your time.

This is where I write my name on my test, calmly take out a pack of gum, look around absently to the other students in class, clear my throat, pop some gum in, stare at nothing on my desk and then methodically get up with blank test in hand, place it on the teacher’s desk, quietly exclaim that I had a great semester and about face to go decompress into a box of fries

I’m not saying you can’t. I’m saying you should be tested cause the sample size of w/w doing that is low.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:42 pm ftr speed ended up civ in the GOC right?

Correct. But he routinely sided with baddies to the point where he looked obviously bad in hindsight

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:43 pm Next time I’m bad, I’m going to see if I can get into one of these day 1 dick measuring contests with a teammate to test all of you who are sure you can sus out when these things are scripted.

lol

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:43 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:36 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:34 pm I’m seeing a civ-civ altercation with Dom and sig

In 500 words or fewer please explain your answer. Guiding questions might be: "Why did sig vote for Dom?" "Why did sig stop voting for Dom?" "Why did sig personally attack Dom, repeatedly?" "What did sig hope to accomplish by the post Dom has bemoaned?"


Thank you for your time.

This is where I write my name on my test, calmly take out a pack of gum, look around absently to the other students in class, clear my throat, pop some gum in, stare at nothing on my desk and then methodically get up with blank test in hand, place it on the teacher’s desk, quietly exclaim that I had a great semester and about face to go decompress into a box of fries

v funny
but like
pls substantiate ur claim for me?

[mention]insertnamehere[/mention]

Do something townieish so we can be friends this game.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:42 pm ftr speed ended up civ in the GOC right?

yes.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:28 pm Hi, TH.

Have we played together before?

don't think so

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:46 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:42 pm ftr speed ended up civ in the GOC right?

Correct. But he routinely sided with baddies to the point where he looked obviously bad in hindsight

right. that's why i had no clue anymore of his alignment.

good to know thx.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:46 pm @insertnamehere

Do something townieish so we can be friends this game.

I don't think INH has an alignment in this game.

lol

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:48 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:46 pm @insertnamehere

Do something townieish so we can be friends this game.

I don't think INH has an alignment in this game.

I was just testing you.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:47 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:28 pm Hi, TH.

Have we played together before?

don't think so

Are you like good at this game?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:43 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:36 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:34 pm I’m seeing a civ-civ altercation with Dom and sig

In 500 words or fewer please explain your answer. Guiding questions might be: "Why did sig vote for Dom?" "Why did sig stop voting for Dom?" "Why did sig personally attack Dom, repeatedly?" "What did sig hope to accomplish by the post Dom has bemoaned?"


Thank you for your time.

This is where I write my name on my test, calmly take out a pack of gum, look around absently to the other students in class, clear my throat, pop some gum in, stare at nothing on my desk and then methodically get up with blank test in hand, place it on the teacher’s desk, quietly exclaim that I had a great semester and about face to go decompress into a box of fries

We admire your bravery and courage. You're going to become a case study for the decline of public education in America.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:49 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:47 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:28 pm Hi, TH.

Have we played together before?

don't think so

Are you like good at this game?

Sometimes.

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:46 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:43 pm Next time I’m bad, I’m going to see if I can get into one of these day 1 dick measuring contests with a teammate to test all of you who are sure you can sus out when these things are scripted.

lol

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:43 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:36 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:34 pm I’m seeing a civ-civ altercation with Dom and sig

In 500 words or fewer please explain your answer. Guiding questions might be: "Why did sig vote for Dom?" "Why did sig stop voting for Dom?" "Why did sig personally attack Dom, repeatedly?" "What did sig hope to accomplish by the post Dom has bemoaned?"


Thank you for your time.

This is where I write my name on my test, calmly take out a pack of gum, look around absently to the other students in class, clear my throat, pop some gum in, stare at nothing on my desk and then methodically get up with blank test in hand, place it on the teacher’s desk, quietly exclaim that I had a great semester and about face to go decompress into a box of fries

v funny
but like
pls substantiate ur claim for me?

I can’t really defend sig. he’s talking in his own language. I’m choosing to ignore the subject matter of your clash because I believe that what you both are perceiving as personal attacks is just miscommunication. He doesn’t agree with the dunya thing and thinks you brought it up when you don’t believe it to be true.

dog is also defending Epi right now to a large extent and if they are teammates then that’s bogus.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:49 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:43 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:36 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:34 pm I’m seeing a civ-civ altercation with Dom and sig

In 500 words or fewer please explain your answer. Guiding questions might be: "Why did sig vote for Dom?" "Why did sig stop voting for Dom?" "Why did sig personally attack Dom, repeatedly?" "What did sig hope to accomplish by the post Dom has bemoaned?"


Thank you for your time.

This is where I write my name on my test, calmly take out a pack of gum, look around absently to the other students in class, clear my throat, pop some gum in, stare at nothing on my desk and then methodically get up with blank test in hand, place it on the teacher’s desk, quietly exclaim that I had a great semester and about face to go decompress into a box of fries

We admire your bravery and courage. You're going to become a case study for the decline of public education in America.

#murica

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:33 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:17 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:10 pm

Dom wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:32 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:28 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:59 pm every game Dom has been in with me, he ended up being inactive so this is actually the first time I get to play with him and I'm not at all familiar with his meta. from what I have heard, this seems to be Dom being Dom.

But your vote is currently on him.

Weird how I was inactive and people discussed my meta.

I'll elaborate on this.

She's heard of my meta in games I never really played in? Really, my meta came up?

suspect af. who in btsc gave you an idea of my meta?

nah you were compared to other players to me in discord in the past when we were OT discussing prolific Syndicate mafia players.

Nope. Don't believe this.

[VOTE: dunya] aubergine

There is a consistent theme of dunya suspicion in LC's post history, but this is where he placed his vote. This is my least favorite point I've seen brought against dunya in the game, so I'm not crazy about it being the apparent straw that broke the camel's back for LC. He made a more substantial point against her here:

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:12 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:08 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:03 am

dunya wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:01 am

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 12:49 am The one that stands out the most right now is dunya's vote for scotty - I have no history with dunya, but dunya has no history with scotty. It's possible it stands out for 'culture clash' reasons.

I dunno. I prodded Scotty for info on his personality both from Scotty and others, and backed it up with a vote. My vote and questioning his motives and sincerity has created discussion. This is a good thing. We have 48 hours; my vote's moving all over the place before I make a more informed Day 1 decision.

This post strengthens my suspicion of dunya. Votes for pressure don't have a lot of teeth when you explain them away as harmless prodders.

I do the same thing sometimes... because I'm bad.

Me too. I think maybe it was the original Phenon when I was doing that, and I got called out correctly for it. That's precisely why I am sensitive to it now.

But I don't necessarily agree that that is suspicious. Dunya announced her vote as a pressure vote well after the fact, and being open about pressure voting on Day 1 was fairly standard on RYM, where dunya comes from.

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:25 pm

Golden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 8:23 pm For someone to think I’m bad in this game they have to believe...

You turn out bad and you'll never be able to say this phrase again. I'll be watching.

This post feels like it could be indirectly setting up a tinfoil case against Golden, and I don't love that.

I'd like to reads from LC on players not called dunya.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:49 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:47 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:28 pm Hi, TH.

Have we played together before?

don't think so

Are you like good at this game?

TH was the Syndicate's representative for the tournament of champions the year before you and I went. But this is his first game back in over a year, I think.

Kites wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:07 am hi asked JJJ to replace me. Some personal problems and my head is such a mess right now I can’t put any effort in playing this game. you guys have fun

Bye kites, I hardly knew ye

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:49 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:48 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:46 pm @insertnamehere

Do something townieish so we can be friends this game.

I don't think INH has an alignment in this game.

I was just testing you.

Move your vote.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:31 am

sig wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:25 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:13 am Pretty sure speedchuck is bad

Why?

There is something about the way he is providing opinions without seeming to have any objective. Much content with little to make me content.

But not enough to make you change your vote? Why are you voting nova again? I must have missed it in your iso

Choutas wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:28 am Sloppy -> Scumtell
Random voting -> Scumtell

Anyway, I always work the evening shift so expect low to zero participation from 14:00 to 24:00
It's possible I could scrabble some posts here and there but my participation in this game will be from low to low-average.
It's a blast we get to play again together guys. Thank you Jay.

It's been a long time since I played a game with choutas, but I struggle to see how he can label "random voting" as a scumtell. Choutas is another player who has been predominantly focused on one suspect (Golden), and I don't agree with his reasoning at all. [mention]Choutas[/mention] give me other reads.

Sloondawg are you looking for alternative wagons?

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] you made a read list yesterday with town reads, and about 5 other various pings you had on people, with the promise that you would sus people out by tomorrow (today). The rest of your posts since have been condemnations on Epi’s meta being different, picking apart some of his flighty voting patterns and parking your vote on him, though he wasn’t a player highlighted on your ping list yesterday. What happened to those pings?

Or was that just a semblance of appearing town for a bit while flying under the radar hmm?

Hey all, apologies for my absence; it's been busy between work, somewhat unexpectedly hanging out with some friends last night, and then Annie's birthday today. I still have a few items to attend to but after that I'll pop back in here in a bit and see what I can do, but I won't be as active before the deadline as I was hoping.

If a wagon is formed on any of the new faces or people I haven’t played with, I’m out today. Just a heads up.

Watch all the Persians be among those and I’m left with my thumb up my butt for sticking to my word

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:55 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:49 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:48 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:46 pm @insertnamehere

Do something townieish so we can be friends this game.

I don't think INH has an alignment in this game.

I was just testing you.

Move your vote.

Don’t tell me what to do.

But okay.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:04 pm Sloondawg are you looking for alternative wagons?

Yes. Got a suggestion?

Turns out I'm a lot busier than I thought I'd be today. I'll try to catch up, revise my list, add suspicions, and vote in the 20 or so minutes I have.

No not really. Half the player list is new to me and I'm trying not to make snap judgments this early.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine he's just parked a vote on me and then hopped off. He's here now. [mention]Marmot[/mention] what do you think about stuff?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:21 pm No not really. Half the player list is new to me and I'm trying not to make snap judgments this early.

Why is your vote on nova?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:21 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine he's just parked a vote on me and then hopped off. He's here now. @Marmot what do you think about stuff?

Stuff is suspect and people bad vote lynch the non Pelops with the 1Day.

Am I doing it right?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:40 amIf.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

I concur.

Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.

I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.

How does your current Epi vote differentiate itself from a "lazy" vote based on his activity?

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:21 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine he's just parked a vote on me and then hopped off. He's here now. @Marmot what do you think about stuff?

Stuff is suspect and people bad vote lynch the non Pelops with the 1Day.

Am I doing it right?

I don't know. Do you have a read on me yet, at least?

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine because I don't know where his questioning of Golden's mafia history is going.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:40 pm

Spoiler: show

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:39 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:08 am Statistically speaking, we’re likely to catch a baddie by lynching Speedchuck.

That's not how statistics work. His chances of being scum in this game are the same as everyone else's. It is not dependent on previous games. I'm sure you realize that, but just clarifying for anyone who might think this is a good argument.

Do you have a read on speedchuck yet?

Speed is tricky. I've played games with him in person, and it is always difficult to tell when he's scum or not. Right now I have no definite read.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:28 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:21 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine he's just parked a vote on me and then hopped off. He's here now. @Marmot what do you think about stuff?

Stuff is suspect and people bad vote lynch the non Pelops with the 1Day.

Am I doing it right?

I don't know. Do you have a read on me yet, at least?

I dub you a civilian.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:22 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:21 pm No not really. Half the player list is new to me and I'm trying not to make snap judgments this early.

Why is your vote on nova?

You already asked me that an hour ago. http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 65#p432665

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:26 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:18 pmWhy are we voting for nova?

it's like a gut feel for me but I'm not in love with my vote.

I did not see this, sorry Mr Head.

Who's on your short list of suspects other than nova?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:21 pm No not really. Half the player list is new to me and I'm trying not to make snap judgments this early.

What will you do instead of making snap judgments?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:27 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:58 pm

sig wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 1:56 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:40 amIf.

Not really lynch worthy though is it?

I concur.

Epi lays low as scum, sure, but he's useful as town. Game has actually been going for less than 24 hours, finals for schoolteachers are approaching, etc. Epi hasn't been super active this weekend either, and has had company if I remember right.

I'm not going to lay a lazy vote on Epi for activity, and I caution against wasting your time with it today.

How does your current Epi vote differentiate itself from a "lazy" vote based on his activity?

Did an entire analysis of Epi's non-comittal prodding, unoriginal posts, and lack of civ oomph. It was half an ISO. And it had nothing to do with post number.

But yes, all of my votes this game will be based on user activity. Not, like, their usernames or divination.

I'll probably be moving my vote though. I find Epi's behavior scummy, but it's not IDEAL scummy. And while I've only played one game with bad Epi, he has a pretty good record as king of evil, and if he were a bad dude, he could do better than this. Those with better meta reads have concurred.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:30 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:21 pm No not really. Half the player list is new to me and I'm trying not to make snap judgments this early.

What will you do instead of making snap judgments?

whatever I want

Speedchuck, gimme a read on lunalee. Please and thanks.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:28 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:21 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine he's just parked a vote on me and then hopped off. He's here now. @Marmot what do you think about stuff?

Stuff is suspect and people bad vote lynch the non Pelops with the 1Day.

Am I doing it right?

I don't know. Do you have a read on me yet, at least?

I dub you a civilian.

Why?

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:33 pm

Spoiler: show

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:44 am There's so much going on here, I'm having trouble getting a read on anyone at this point. But here's where I'm at right now: Dunya feels genuine to me, and as was mentioned before, the fact that she's added so much to the thread gives her a civvie vibe. It would make total sense for Persians to lead a lynch against Dunya on day one. To them, she's a threat, and getting her out of the game early gives them an advantage.

With that said, I'm still hesitant to place a vote right now. I'll check back in later.

Why are you hesitant?

I'm hesitant because I don't want to lynch a civilian on day one. I want my vote to count, and go towards the right person.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:33 pm

Spoiler: show

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:39 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:08 am Statistically speaking, we’re likely to catch a baddie by lynching Speedchuck.

That's not how statistics work. His chances of being scum in this game are the same as everyone else's. It is not dependent on previous games. I'm sure you realize that, but just clarifying for anyone who might think this is a good argument.

You have thus far defended dunya and subtly defended Speedchuck, while I guess shining on a light of suspicion on those that would have led a lynch on dunya without naming any names.[/spoiler]

If I hadn’t offered the olive branch on people I haven’t played with before, you would be getting my vote rIght now

I appreciate you olive branch Scotty, I may have to return the generous favor. I defended Dunya because I feel she's being genuine. I guess I'm better at defending than incriminating, I may have to work on my playstyle here.

I did not defend Speedchuck, I'm just really passionate about the misuse of statistics. If further evidence shows speedchuck may be scum, I will happily help lynch him (sorry [mention]speedchuck[/mention] , still love you).

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:34 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:28 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:21 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine he's just parked a vote on me and then hopped off. He's here now. @Marmot what do you think about stuff?

Stuff is suspect and people bad vote lynch the non Pelops with the 1Day.

Am I doing it right?

I don't know. Do you have a read on me yet, at least?

I dub you a civilian.

Why?

Your attitude towards me reflects a civilian Sloonei I know and fear.

You're 2legit2quit.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:37 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:34 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:28 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:28 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:24 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:21 pm [VOTE: Marmot] aubergine he's just parked a vote on me and then hopped off. He's here now. @Marmot what do you think about stuff?

Stuff is suspect and people bad vote lynch the non Pelops with the 1Day.

Am I doing it right?

I don't know. Do you have a read on me yet, at least?

I dub you a civilian.

Why?

Your attitude towards me reflects a civilian Sloonei I know and fear.

You're 2legit2quit.

What do you have to fear?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:34 pm Speedchuck, gimme a read on lunalee. Please and thanks.

GTH town.

Though I've never played mafia, IRL or elsewhere, with a scum Luna. At least, I don't remember doing so.