The Syndicate

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:31 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:30 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:48 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:43 pm Do you think LC is a fine exile?

Not at all tbh.

If you want to exile somebody who is a relatively low poster, 112 and Gira are much more likely to be town.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:49 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:43 pm Do you think LC is a fine exile?

No, and the fact he volunteered himself is total garbage

Suit yourselves.

Now you're trying to use reverse psychology on us, it won't work

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 7:03 pm Falcon remains prime for being traitor here.

Creature wrote: ↑Mon May 31, 2021 10:14 am I wonder how we'll find the traitors

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:13 pm Murphy is a good exile choice

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:20 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:13 pm Murphy is a good exile choice

Looks meh

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:09 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:57 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:47 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:46 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:39 pm What an irritating game

How you feeling about Mac's turn around on you?

I have no idea what he's doing but I'm gonna let him do it

Who do you want to exile?



How's work? I'm at work too, and it's totes lame right meow

Work is stupid

I'll exile Sparkles for sanity reasons

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:09 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:57 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:47 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:46 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:39 pm What an irritating game

How you feeling about Mac's turn around on you?

I have no idea what he's doing but I'm gonna let him do it

Who do you want to exile?



How's work? I'm at work too, and it's totes lame right meow

Work is stupid

I'll exile Sparkles for sanity reasons

Why sanity reasons? Like what’s the issue everyone seems to have with me?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:22 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:19 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 4:11 pm

112 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:40 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:36 pm Who are we exiling?

do we want to exile town or wolves?

Preferably town, but that we wouldn't mind silenced

I can volunteer.

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:30 pm

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:09 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:57 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:47 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:46 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:39 pm What an irritating game

How you feeling about Mac's turn around on you?

I have no idea what he's doing but I'm gonna let him do it

Who do you want to exile?



How's work? I'm at work too, and it's totes lame right meow

Work is stupid

I'll exile Sparkles for sanity reasons

Why sanity reasons? Like what’s the issue everyone seems to have with me?

you keep calling me names

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:09 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:57 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:47 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:46 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:39 pm What an irritating game

How you feeling about Mac's turn around on you?

I have no idea what he's doing but I'm gonna let him do it

Who do you want to exile?



How's work? I'm at work too, and it's totes lame right meow

Work is stupid

I'll exile Sparkles for sanity reasons

Why sanity reasons? Like what’s the issue everyone seems to have with me?

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:21 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:20 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:13 pm Murphy is a good exile choice

Looks meh

personally I've gotten severe IDGAF vibes from him every time he shows up which is townie

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:48 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:43 pm Do you think LC is a fine exile?

Not at all tbh.

If you want to exile somebody who is a relatively low poster, 112 and Gira are much more likely to be town.

KGMurphy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:32 pm

MissSparkles wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:26 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 2:09 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:57 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:47 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:46 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 12:39 pm What an irritating game

How you feeling about Mac's turn around on you?

I have no idea what he's doing but I'm gonna let him do it

Who do you want to exile?



How's work? I'm at work too, and it's totes lame right meow

Work is stupid

I'll exile Sparkles for sanity reasons

Why sanity reasons? Like what’s the issue everyone seems to have with me?

Your biggest issue is that you're a traitor. I can see right through your facade.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:39 pm Why was Poison being townread? I barely remember them this game.

KGMurphy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:44 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:39 pm Why was Poison being townread? I barely remember them this game.

Are they poisoned?

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:46 pm

KGMurphy wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:44 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:39 pm Why was Poison being townread? I barely remember them this game.

Are they poisoned?

Not yet

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:13 pm Murphy is a good exile choice

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am The only thing that chop tells us is that giving zero fucks is in people's town range. We probably should kill KZA technically because clearing day 1 c/ws is usually a good play. Definitely not exiling him.

Exile Wiml imo.

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am The only thing that chop tells us is that giving zero fucks is in people's town range. We probably should kill KZA technically because clearing day 1 c/ws is usually a good play. Definitely not exiling him.

Exile Wiml imo.

wagonomics are irrelevant tho

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:53 pm Stamp out bullshit and make it a very serious and unfun game.

Creature wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:56 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:53 pm Stamp out bullshit and make it a very serious and unfun game.

Getting wolf killed is never unfun tbh.

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:26 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:18 am I hardclaim cop.

I was hoping for a green peek but I got a red peek Day 1. I'll share it tomorrow unless that player is getting exile votes today.

Also, don't exile me plz.

So given this, I think Gira would be my choice to exile because (assuming I'm not missing something mech-wise) I really don't think that it's worthwhile for him as a wolf to point out the mech solve strategy that he did?


I know I touched on it briefly but I was waiting to see if anybody else said something first and that's what happened.

I'd to open to considering within Sparkles/Wisdom/112/Mac too.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:53 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am The only thing that chop tells us is that giving zero fucks is in people's town range. We probably should kill KZA technically because clearing day 1 c/ws is usually a good play. Definitely not exiling him.

Exile Wiml imo.

wagonomics are irrelevant tho

Not here they aren't. We haven't got much else empirical to work with so lower percentage things become more valuable. I think KZA has a good chance to be a wolf just simply for having been run up. If a bunch of people who were all realsolving (keep in mind that's occurring here, it's no different than multiball in that sense) all sort of coalesced on KZA, then it's pretty strong. Wisdom of the crowd is a big time tell here.

If town really wants to win that game, the simplest method is to put in effort and create a threadstate that is anti-bullshit. I know I contributed heavily to the bullshit day 1, but I really wasn't ready to start the game when it started so I was kinda being a direspectful turd. Having had a chance to think about it sitting on my ass in a chair as opposed to half asleep with a phone hanging out of my hand, I realise that was anti-town of me and I intend not to do it anymore.

Strategy to win this game: Force everyone to realsolve. The wisdom of the crowd will be strong in this game. Trust the consensus. Force everyone to share their reads. Stamp out bullshit and make it a very serious and unfun game.

That's our path to victory here.

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:53 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am The only thing that chop tells us is that giving zero fucks is in people's town range. We probably should kill KZA technically because clearing day 1 c/ws is usually a good play. Definitely not exiling him.

Exile Wiml imo.

wagonomics are irrelevant tho

Not here they aren't. We haven't got much else empirical to work with so lower percentage things become more valuable. I think KZA has a good chance to be a wolf just simply for having been run up. If a bunch of people who were all realsolving (keep in mind that's occurring here, it's no different than multiball in that sense) all sort of coalesced on KZA, then it's pretty strong. Wisdom of the crowd is a big time tell here.

If town really wants to win that game, the simplest method is to put in effort and create a threadstate that is anti-bullshit. I know I contributed heavily to the bullshit day 1, but I really wasn't ready to start the game when it started so I was kinda being a direspectful turd. Having had a chance to think about it sitting on my ass in a chair as opposed to half asleep with a phone hanging out of my hand, I realise that was anti-town of me and I intend not to do it anymore.

Strategy to win this game: Force everyone to realsolve. The wisdom of the crowd will be strong in this game. Trust the consensus. Force everyone to share their reads. Stamp out bullshit and make it a very serious and unfun game.

That's our path to victory here.

eh, the general theory behind wagonomics is that scum position themselves tactically based on the alignment of dueling wagons, here they aren't informed of their teammates so they can't do that, meaning that trying to guess where traitors are positioned on wagons is useless. the idea that someone got wagoned and is therefore likely to flip scum seems a bit of a fallacy? the masses are wrong all the time, on most sites people are no better than random on day 1 wagons


all that being said it's nightless so i don't give a crap if he dies at some point

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:29 pm yeah I'm definitely cranking the bullshit now that Mac directly said not to

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:36 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:53 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am The only thing that chop tells us is that giving zero fucks is in people's town range. We probably should kill KZA technically because clearing day 1 c/ws is usually a good play. Definitely not exiling him.

Exile Wiml imo.

wagonomics are irrelevant tho

Not here they aren't. We haven't got much else empirical to work with so lower percentage things become more valuable. I think KZA has a good chance to be a wolf just simply for having been run up. If a bunch of people who were all realsolving (keep in mind that's occurring here, it's no different than multiball in that sense) all sort of coalesced on KZA, then it's pretty strong. Wisdom of the crowd is a big time tell here.

If town really wants to win that game, the simplest method is to put in effort and create a threadstate that is anti-bullshit. I know I contributed heavily to the bullshit day 1, but I really wasn't ready to start the game when it started so I was kinda being a direspectful turd. Having had a chance to think about it sitting on my ass in a chair as opposed to half asleep with a phone hanging out of my hand, I realise that was anti-town of me and I intend not to do it anymore.

Strategy to win this game: Force everyone to realsolve. The wisdom of the crowd will be strong in this game. Trust the consensus. Force everyone to share their reads. Stamp out bullshit and make it a very serious and unfun game.

That's our path to victory here.

eh, the general theory behind wagonomics is that scum position themselves tactically based on the alignment of dueling wagons, here they aren't informed of their teammates so they can't do that, meaning that trying to guess where traitors are positioned on wagons is useless. the idea that someone got wagoned and is therefore likely to flip scum seems a bit of a fallacy? the masses are wrong all the time, on most sites people are no better than random on day 1 wagons


all that being said it's nightless so i don't give a crap if he dies at some point

You are overthinking it. The fact is that everyone in this game is inclined to genuinely solve, therefore the thread consensus is >rand compared to usual. Therefore exeing counterwagons is also >rand compared to usual because the thread sentiment is more accurate. Use the hive mind. It's multiball mafia theory and it works, trust me.

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:05 pm

Wiml wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:26 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:18 am I hardclaim cop.

I was hoping for a green peek but I got a red peek Day 1. I'll share it tomorrow unless that player is getting exile votes today.

Also, don't exile me plz.

So given this, I think Gira would be my choice to exile because (assuming I'm not missing something mech-wise) I really don't think that it's worthwhile for him as a wolf to point out the mech solve strategy that he did?


I know I touched on it briefly but I was waiting to see if anybody else said something first and that's what happened.

I'd to open to considering within Sparkles/Wisdom/112/Mac too.

correct, i would never do that

i would gladly accept exile on the grounds that it would give me an excuse to pay less attention to the game

of course hypothetically the only real winning strategy for scum in this setup is to aim for the exile victory so feel free to take it with a grain of salt, both town and traitors have incentive to want to be exiled

regardless, exiling me even if you're unsure of my alignment is fine if we only do it once

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:53 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am The only thing that chop tells us is that giving zero fucks is in people's town range. We probably should kill KZA technically because clearing day 1 c/ws is usually a good play. Definitely not exiling him.

Exile Wiml imo.

wagonomics are irrelevant tho

Not here they aren't. We haven't got much else empirical to work with so lower percentage things become more valuable. I think KZA has a good chance to be a wolf just simply for having been run up. If a bunch of people who were all realsolving (keep in mind that's occurring here, it's no different than multiball in that sense) all sort of coalesced on KZA, then it's pretty strong. Wisdom of the crowd is a big time tell here.

If town really wants to win that game, the simplest method is to put in effort and create a threadstate that is anti-bullshit. I know I contributed heavily to the bullshit day 1, but I really wasn't ready to start the game when it started so I was kinda being a direspectful turd. Having had a chance to think about it sitting on my ass in a chair as opposed to half asleep with a phone hanging out of my hand, I realise that was anti-town of me and I intend not to do it anymore.

Strategy to win this game: Force everyone to realsolve. The wisdom of the crowd will be strong in this game. Trust the consensus. Force everyone to share their reads. Stamp out bullshit and make it a very serious and unfun game.

That's our path to victory here.

eh, the general theory behind wagonomics is that scum position themselves tactically based on the alignment of dueling wagons, here they aren't informed of their teammates so they can't do that, meaning that trying to guess where traitors are positioned on wagons is useless. the idea that someone got wagoned and is therefore likely to flip scum seems a bit of a fallacy? the masses are wrong all the time, on most sites people are no better than random on day 1 wagons


all that being said it's nightless so i don't give a crap if he dies at some point

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:36 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:53 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am The only thing that chop tells us is that giving zero fucks is in people's town range. We probably should kill KZA technically because clearing day 1 c/ws is usually a good play. Definitely not exiling him.

Exile Wiml imo.

wagonomics are irrelevant tho

Not here they aren't. We haven't got much else empirical to work with so lower percentage things become more valuable. I think KZA has a good chance to be a wolf just simply for having been run up. If a bunch of people who were all realsolving (keep in mind that's occurring here, it's no different than multiball in that sense) all sort of coalesced on KZA, then it's pretty strong. Wisdom of the crowd is a big time tell here.

If town really wants to win that game, the simplest method is to put in effort and create a threadstate that is anti-bullshit. I know I contributed heavily to the bullshit day 1, but I really wasn't ready to start the game when it started so I was kinda being a direspectful turd. Having had a chance to think about it sitting on my ass in a chair as opposed to half asleep with a phone hanging out of my hand, I realise that was anti-town of me and I intend not to do it anymore.

Strategy to win this game: Force everyone to realsolve. The wisdom of the crowd will be strong in this game. Trust the consensus. Force everyone to share their reads. Stamp out bullshit and make it a very serious and unfun game.

That's our path to victory here.

eh, the general theory behind wagonomics is that scum position themselves tactically based on the alignment of dueling wagons, here they aren't informed of their teammates so they can't do that, meaning that trying to guess where traitors are positioned on wagons is useless. the idea that someone got wagoned and is therefore likely to flip scum seems a bit of a fallacy? the masses are wrong all the time, on most sites people are no better than random on day 1 wagons


all that being said it's nightless so i don't give a crap if he dies at some point

You are overthinking it. The fact is that everyone in this game is inclined to genuinely solve, therefore the thread consensus is >rand compared to usual. Therefore exeing counterwagons is also >rand compared to usual because the thread sentiment is more accurate. Use the hive mind. It's multiball mafia theory and it works, trust me.

That is to say that while I do believe people will be predisposed to solving, including each traitor, we need to encourage and force a threadstate that insists upon it, and do away with all of the chaff ruthlessly, and force the traitors to actually help us kill each other by genuinely solving or outing themselves trying to kill obvious town players.

That is why if KZA follows through with his plan to just oppose my strategy, and especially given he was a d1 c/w. He can just die.

In this particular strategy, if a town decides to gamethrow, and have no better strategy, fuck them. I'll just policy not sign up to games they sign up to in future because it's straight up throwing.

If you want to argue with the validity of the strategy and follow your own positive proactive strategy that's fine. But "fuck Mac, I'm gonna just be an anti-town cockhead" is policy lynch for me here and starting right now.

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:13 pm @112 do you have other strong thoughts not related to KZA?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:40 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:36 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:19 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:53 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 10:48 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:42 am The only thing that chop tells us is that giving zero fucks is in people's town range. We probably should kill KZA technically because clearing day 1 c/ws is usually a good play. Definitely not exiling him.

Exile Wiml imo.

wagonomics are irrelevant tho

Not here they aren't. We haven't got much else empirical to work with so lower percentage things become more valuable. I think KZA has a good chance to be a wolf just simply for having been run up. If a bunch of people who were all realsolving (keep in mind that's occurring here, it's no different than multiball in that sense) all sort of coalesced on KZA, then it's pretty strong. Wisdom of the crowd is a big time tell here.

If town really wants to win that game, the simplest method is to put in effort and create a threadstate that is anti-bullshit. I know I contributed heavily to the bullshit day 1, but I really wasn't ready to start the game when it started so I was kinda being a direspectful turd. Having had a chance to think about it sitting on my ass in a chair as opposed to half asleep with a phone hanging out of my hand, I realise that was anti-town of me and I intend not to do it anymore.

Strategy to win this game: Force everyone to realsolve. The wisdom of the crowd will be strong in this game. Trust the consensus. Force everyone to share their reads. Stamp out bullshit and make it a very serious and unfun game.

That's our path to victory here.

eh, the general theory behind wagonomics is that scum position themselves tactically based on the alignment of dueling wagons, here they aren't informed of their teammates so they can't do that, meaning that trying to guess where traitors are positioned on wagons is useless. the idea that someone got wagoned and is therefore likely to flip scum seems a bit of a fallacy? the masses are wrong all the time, on most sites people are no better than random on day 1 wagons


all that being said it's nightless so i don't give a crap if he dies at some point

You are overthinking it. The fact is that everyone in this game is inclined to genuinely solve, therefore the thread consensus is >rand compared to usual. Therefore exeing counterwagons is also >rand compared to usual because the thread sentiment is more accurate. Use the hive mind. It's multiball mafia theory and it works, trust me.

That is to say that while I do believe people will be predisposed to solving, including each traitor, we need to encourage and force a threadstate that insists upon it, and do away with all of the chaff ruthlessly, and force the traitors to actually help us kill each other by genuinely solving or outing themselves trying to kill obvious town players.

That is why if KZA follows through with his plan to just oppose my strategy, and especially given he was a d1 c/w. He can just die.

In this particular strategy, if a town decides to gamethrow, and have no better strategy, fuck them. I'll just policy not sign up to games they sign up to in future because it's straight up throwing.

If you want to argue with the validity of the strategy and follow your own positive proactive strategy that's fine. But "fuck Mac, I'm gonna just be an anti-town cockhead" is policy lynch for me here and starting right now.

112 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:14 am

KZA wrote: ↑Wed Jun 02, 2021 9:13 pm @112 do you have other strong thoughts not related to KZA?

Yes but they're personal.