The Syndicate

My vote is staying where it is unless something irresistibly compelling comes up.

My reads are so weak I'm going to have to GTH them to get any scumreads. List and vote incoming.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:34 pm Speedchuck, gimme a read on lunalee. Please and thanks.

GTH town.

Though I've never played mafia, IRL or elsewhere, with a scum Luna. At least, I don't remember doing so.

That's because my whole time on the syndicate I have not once gotten a scum role :P

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:42 pm My vote is staying where it is unless something irresistibly compelling comes up.

I can't find any mention of Long Con in your post history. Do you have any thoughts on him?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:46 pm @insertnamehere

Do something townieish so we can be friends this game.

no u

I'm going to pick 7 scum out of our playerlist. Gun to head. One for each scum and one for the 3P potential scums. That's an arbitrary number, I know.

Choutas - SCUM
ColinIsCool - SCUM
Dom - TOWN
dunya - TOWN
Epignosis - SCUM
Golden - TOWN
Jackofhearts2005 - TOWN
Kites - TOWN
Kylemii - SCUM
lapluie - SCUM
Long Con - TOWN
Lunalee - TOWN
M Plus 7 - TOWN
MacDougall - TOWN
Marmot - SCUM
novaselinenever - TOWN
Scotty - TOWN
sig - TOWN
Sloonei - TOWN
Spacedaisy - SCUM
speedchuck - TOWN
Turnip Head - SCUM
wolbre04 - TOWN

This is hard when we have so many low posters and so many high posters and not so many in-betweens.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:46 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:42 pm My vote is staying where it is unless something irresistibly compelling comes up.

I can't find any mention of Long Con in your post history. Do you have any thoughts on him?

He's a real class act

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 6:23 pm

Spoiler: show

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:57 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:52 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Apr 22, 2018 5:47 pm I am here. whoa! what a game.

fair warning, I'll be travelling April 24th till May 4th so don't expect crazy dunia level of activity. kthx.

lots of people I haven't played with before, and Choutas!!!!!!! we haven't played together since mid-RYM mafia days. it's gonna be interesting.

You're mafia, aren't you?

I'm very much town. What about you?

Town AF.

I don't know if I buy it, MP. But for now I'm placing my vote on Long Con, since he was first to kick off the Dunya bandwagon.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:47 pm I'm going to pick 7 scum out of our playerlist. Gun to head. One for each scum and one for the 3P potential scums. That's an arbitrary number, I know.

Choutas - SCUM
ColinIsCool - SCUM
Dom - TOWN
dunya - TOWN
Epignosis - SCUM
Golden - TOWN
Jackofhearts2005 - TOWN
Kites - TOWN
Kylemii - SCUM
lapluie - SCUM
Long Con - TOWN
Lunalee - TOWN
M Plus 7 - TOWN
MacDougall - TOWN
Marmot - SCUM
novaselinenever - TOWN
Scotty - TOWN
sig - TOWN
Sloonei - TOWN
Spacedaisy - SCUM
speedchuck - TOWN
Turnip Head - SCUM
wolbre04 - TOWN

This is hard when we have so many low posters and so many high posters and not so many in-betweens.

Which names surprised you or gave you the most pause on this list?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:46 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:42 pm My vote is staying where it is unless something irresistibly compelling comes up.

I can't find any mention of Long Con in your post history. Do you have any thoughts on him?

He's a real class act

Town or scum?
What about speedchuck?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:49 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:47 pm I'm going to pick 7 scum out of our playerlist. Gun to head. One for each scum and one for the 3P potential scums. That's an arbitrary number, I know.

Choutas - SCUM
ColinIsCool - SCUM
Dom - TOWN
dunya - TOWN
Epignosis - SCUM
Golden - TOWN
Jackofhearts2005 - TOWN
Kites - TOWN
Kylemii - SCUM
lapluie - SCUM
Long Con - TOWN
Lunalee - TOWN
M Plus 7 - TOWN
MacDougall - TOWN
Marmot - SCUM
novaselinenever - TOWN
Scotty - TOWN
sig - TOWN
Sloonei - TOWN
Spacedaisy - SCUM
speedchuck - TOWN
Turnip Head - SCUM
wolbre04 - TOWN

This is hard when we have so many low posters and so many high posters and not so many in-betweens.

Which names surprised you or gave you the most pause on this list?

Nova. I was considering moving my vote to him from Epi, but no. I hold firm. I'm not certain on Epi, but I suspect him more than Nova. I don't have a reason to vote Nova.

Spacedaisy. I hadn't realized she was in the game. I POE'd it to her.

Kylemii. Gave me a lot of pause, but that good feeling I got from his first few posts is gone. He's skating.

Is this helping you Sloon? Because it's not helping me. If I have something noteworthy to say, I will

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:36 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:33 pm

Spoiler: show

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:44 am There's so much going on here, I'm having trouble getting a read on anyone at this point. But here's where I'm at right now: Dunya feels genuine to me, and as was mentioned before, the fact that she's added so much to the thread gives her a civvie vibe. It would make total sense for Persians to lead a lynch against Dunya on day one. To them, she's a threat, and getting her out of the game early gives them an advantage.

With that said, I'm still hesitant to place a vote right now. I'll check back in later.

Why are you hesitant?

I'm hesitant because I don't want to lynch a civilian on day one. I want my vote to count, and go towards the right person.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 1:33 pm

Spoiler: show

Lunalee wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:39 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 11:08 am Statistically speaking, we’re likely to catch a baddie by lynching Speedchuck.

That's not how statistics work. His chances of being scum in this game are the same as everyone else's. It is not dependent on previous games. I'm sure you realize that, but just clarifying for anyone who might think this is a good argument.

You have thus far defended dunya and subtly defended Speedchuck, while I guess shining on a light of suspicion on those that would have led a lynch on dunya without naming any names.[/spoiler]

If I hadn’t offered the olive branch on people I haven’t played with before, you would be getting my vote rIght now

I appreciate you olive branch Scotty, I may have to return the generous favor. I defended Dunya because I feel she's being genuine. I guess I'm better at defending than incriminating, I may have to work on my playstyle here.

I did not defend Speedchuck, I'm just really passionate about the misuse of statistics. If further evidence shows speedchuck may be scum, I will happily help lynch him (sorry @speedchuck , still love you).

I like your spoilers. Sometimes the quote mechanism is a bit screwy in this forum, but I like the de clutter.

Ok so when you say “return the favor” on the olive branch, are you just saying that because you suspect me? I think you should go for it if so, otherwise no need. I’m a strong boy (or so my momma says) and I can take it

And yes, you did defend Speedchuck by latching on to jack’s ‘statistically speaking’ comment. You are technically correct, but before he explains his motivation behind it, you made a conscious decision to respond to that opinion, attempting to set the record straight for speed. That may very well be your playstyle to correct statistical misanalysis, but to not see that as a subtle form of defense is suspect too.

Switching my vote to Spacedaisy because pretty much her only on topic posts so far are interactions with dunya which include a mild defense, followed by a step back, then a step forward.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:55 pm Is this helping you Sloon? Because it's not helping me. If I have something noteworthy to say, I will

There are scum in this game. This is noteworthy.

Jack has very little to say and makes a lot of one-line posts. Then he plants a vote on Epi:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:48 pm [VOTE: Vote Epignosis] aubergine

Eggplant.

But I don't see him engaging with Epi, or anyone else for that matter. This is an easy vote for a player who is acting strangely.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:32 am @Sloonei

I hear a rumor you might be bad this game. Tell me about that rumor.

(I’m happy with my Epi vote btw.)

He poked me last night with rumors of rumors. It went nowhere:

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:49 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:46 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:39 am Linki: That’s not what I meant when I said “Tell me about that rumor.”

I’m not bad. Do you have reasons to think I might be?

I haven’t read any of your posts from before the last three or so pages so “not really.”

You have no thoughts on your accusers?

These questions feel directionless and empty. I could vote for Jack. Let's do it. [VOTE: Jackofhearts] aubergine

[mention]speedchuck[/mention] why pick out a defined number of scum? That sounds like the opposite of what a GTH read list is supposed to be: spontaneous

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:57 pm Ok so when you say “return the favor” on the olive branch, are you just saying that because you suspect me? I think you should go for it if so, otherwise no need. I’m a strong boy (or so my momma says) and I can take it

I don't suspect you right now, so by "returning the favor" I simply meant I'm not planning to vote for you on day one. I'm also amused that had you not made that promise of not voting for new players on day one, that you would want to lynch me. I'll give you a pass if you really feel that way. :P

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:55 pm Is this helping you Sloon? Because it's not helping me. If I have something noteworthy to say, I will

A little. I read people by asking them questions. I don't currently know where you stand on a lot of things in this game and it makes reading you difficult, but I am willing to give you time before I jump on you or anything. I just wanna know your thoughts.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:00 pm @speedchuck why pick out a defined number of scum? That sounds like the opposite of what a GTH read list is supposed to be: spontaneous

Is it? I'm new to GTH. I thought the gun was only supposed to force you to say town or scum instead of null.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:02 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:55 pm Is this helping you Sloon? Because it's not helping me. If I have something noteworthy to say, I will

A little. I read people by asking them questions. I don't currently know where you stand on a lot of things in this game and it makes reading you difficult, but I am willing to give you time before I jump on you or anything. I just wanna know your thoughts.

I'm not too concerned about your read of me... I have my own game to play Feel free to keep an eye on me tho

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:58 pm Switching my vote to Spacedaisy because pretty much her only on topic posts so far are interactions with dunya which include a mild defense, followed by a step back, then a step forward.

Soooo not that you're wrong, but can you explain why these posts bring you to that conclusion, and what that says about Dunya?
Is your scumread of daisy predicated on Dunya also being scum?

By Zeus, I have to start getting ready for work. I'll try to follow along, at least with the poll, but I can't promise any activity the rest of the day. I'll leave my vote on Jack for now and I encourage discussion of him and everyone else. It's been a big and busy Day 1, keep that up as the deadline approaches.

I've read his ISO thrice. I don't get it. Why the heck are [mention]MacDougall[/mention], [mention]sig[/mention], and [mention]Turnip Head[/mention] voting for Nova?

I'm looking to possibly move my vote and the only two options that really matter at this point (I'll be completely AFK for the last 2 hours of day) are:

Dunya - this lynch is based on a scumslip I don't believe occurred. Frankly, I think it's ridiculous, and I refuse to vote there.
Nova - I have no idea why Nova has any votes.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:03 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:00 pm @speedchuck why pick out a defined number of scum? That sounds like the opposite of what a GTH read list is supposed to be: spontaneous

Is it? I'm new to GTH. I thought the gun was only supposed to force you to say town or scum instead of null.

The whole premise of Gun to Head is that it is just that- assumptions you would make on people if you had a gun to your head. Not organized beforehand where you say “ok, I’m thinking I’ll maybe call him bad and him good and oh! Looks like I need to come up with a few more grease monkeys!”

Bad look

Vote with your heart young speedchucker

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:12 pm I'm looking to possibly move my vote and the only two options that really matter at this point (I'll be completely AFK for the last 2 hours of day) are:

Dunya - this lynch is based on a scumslip I don't believe occurred. Frankly, I think it's ridiculous, and I refuse to vote there.
Nova - I have no idea why Nova has any votes.

Talk about Jack and Marmot

Hopefully I'll be able to post in some hours.
Work related problems arose and a million things to do today aside work.
Just try to cope with my absence and if it gets worse I'll politely ask to be replaced.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:05 pm By Zeus, I have to start getting ready for work. I'll try to follow along, at least with the poll, but I can't promise any activity the rest of the day. I'll leave my vote on Jack for now and I encourage discussion of him and everyone else. It's been a big and busy Day 1, keep that up as the deadline approaches.

I will say that jack seems different from his pregnancy in GoC but is it enoug to make him scum? I dunno

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:05 pm By Zeus, I have to start getting ready for work. I'll try to follow along, at least with the poll, but I can't promise any activity the rest of the day. I'll leave my vote on Jack for now and I encourage discussion of him and everyone else. It's been a big and busy Day 1, keep that up as the deadline approaches.

I will say that jack seems different from his pregnancy in GoC but is it enoug to make him scum? I dunno

Oh for ducks sake

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:21 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:05 pm By Zeus, I have to start getting ready for work. I'll try to follow along, at least with the poll, but I can't promise any activity the rest of the day. I'll leave my vote on Jack for now and I encourage discussion of him and everyone else. It's been a big and busy Day 1, keep that up as the deadline approaches.

I will say that jack seems different from his pregnancy in GoC but is it enoug to make him scum? I dunno

Oh for ducks sake

PERFORMANCE

There is no reason to settle or focus on any of the existing wagons. There’s no reason to ignore them either, but we have 3 hours and the leader in the poll curently has voted, with a ton of fistribution. Things are open and everyone should be in play right now, not just dunya, Epi, and nova.

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:05 pm By Zeus, I have to start getting ready for work. I'll try to follow along, at least with the poll, but I can't promise any activity the rest of the day. I'll leave my vote on Jack for now and I encourage discussion of him and everyone else. It's been a big and busy Day 1, keep that up as the deadline approaches.

I will say that jack seems different from his pregnancy in GoC but is it enoug to make him scum? I dunno

First of all, congrats on the big news, Jack! Is it a boy or girl?

Second, in what way does he seem different to you?

Why is it so hard to lynch Epi in general? His reputation precedes him and he tends to have people touring his perceived meta as a civ. I’m scrapping pretenses and I don’t find his input today civ-leaning. It’s sporatic, like my girlfriend digging through a new bag of Trail Mix for the M&M’s and leaving me the nut crap

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:24 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:21 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:05 pm By Zeus, I have to start getting ready for work. I'll try to follow along, at least with the poll, but I can't promise any activity the rest of the day. I'll leave my vote on Jack for now and I encourage discussion of him and everyone else. It's been a big and busy Day 1, keep that up as the deadline approaches.

I will say that jack seems different from his pregnancy in GoC but is it enoug to make him scum? I dunno

First of all, congrats on the big news, Jack! Is it a boy or girl?

Second, in what way does he seem different to you?

I’ve brought this up before, and you’ve already touched on it. He seems silly and his investment is quite casual. I’m not sure if he’s just trying a different technique or what, but he was poking his nose in closets that didn’t need to be opened in GoC. Here it’s like he just lit a Yankee Doodle candle because he doesn’t feel like smelling cat hair

I tend to give Epi a long leash because he's fun to watch. If he gets boring I'ma turn on him real quick

Sup folks?

So I'm not going to play catch-up right now (#downwithketchup [mention]Sloonei[/mention]) because that would be unwise. Rather, I'll skim through a few ISOs and focus instead on interacting with you all. So who's around and wants to talk about their suspects?

Alright, which ISO should I look at first?

idk Alex it's up to you. You could just hang out in real time with us.

Alright bud, who are your suspects and why?

Its daisys birthday can't so I'd rather not lynch her.

I explained my nova vote, but it's weak

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:30 pm I tend to give Epi a long leash because he's fun to watch. If he gets boring I'ma turn on him real quick

Like a Barnum elephant. I like it

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:34 pm Alright bud, who are your suspects and why?

oh shit I didn't mean me. But okay ISO me real quick, I'm playing super casual so far.

Hey sig! Do you suspect Daisy and that's why you're saying that? Is nova your preferred lynch? If you had sole control over the lynch outcome, who would die?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:35 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:34 pm Alright bud, who are your suspects and why?

oh shit I didn't mean me. But okay ISO me real quick, I'm playing super casual so far.

On it, thanks.

I think I trust you, TH. At least for now. Enjoy a town read.

Why is dunya's vote on you? I guess I should skim her ISO real fast anyway because I'm voting for her and I need to figure out what I'm doing.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:38 pm I think I trust you, TH. At least for now. Enjoy a town read.

Why though

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:39 pm Why is dunya's vote on you? I guess I should skim her ISO real fast anyway because I'm voting for her and I need to figure out what I'm doing.

Probably because I'm acting silly and we've never played together before.