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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:32 am
by Long Con
Just wanted to post this for fun reference, and thanks to JJJ for inspiring me to find it:
Boomslang wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2017 6:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: My top 3 suspects are Llama, JJJ and idk. (content cut)
INH, LC and Quin can I have you 3 let me know full reads on the other 2 in this group?
Niju, Marmot, and Epi can I have you 3 let me know full reads on the other 2 in this group?
That's mentioning at least eight separate players in a single post, with relatively little rationale about why. It's player salad, trying to very quickly establish a record with everyone so we feel you've had something to say on them.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:33 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:27 am A valued talent.

And, as a believer in Player Salad as a tell, that example really supports it. I do get, however, that the definition can be muddied easily. I think it's just gotta be analyzed by experts on a contextual basis.

Good night Epi!
Let’s go outside to our Official Player Salad correspondent...

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:40 am
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:31 am
timmer wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:52 pm Okay, so reading owner's iso, I'd say he really and oddly blindered onto DH very early, and for what seems like entirely prev-game reasons. This allows him to talk a lot about suspicions towards sh, but without having to defend anything he says because, hey, is based on last game. And when pressed about it, he just versions of iunno I just feel it...

This can be a baddie move, but it can also just be blindering which ive done in the past. Those who know owner well, do you get any kind of alignment read from this angle?
Bullzeye wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:59 pm Don't really have time to catch up before the lynch, but I can see from the Who Posted list that Nova still hasn't checked in so I will vote there today.

[VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine
These are my least favorite posts in the thread, for unrelated reasons.

Timmer’s is a typical hedge, complete with all of adverbs and the disclaimer to render the product a cringe.

Bullzeye’s vote is just ugly under the circumstances. Evasion of prevailing discussions in favor of a whatever vote on a no-show is a bad look.
The timmer thing is pretty hedgey... complete with the "I'm seeking greater understanding" at the end.

I really can't blame bullzeye for going for a non-poster because we lost Mega Man because of absent players (no it totally wasn't because I was fooling around it was absent players)... I think your analysis of "ugly under the circumstances" is excessive. Why were these circumstances particularly ugly-inducing? It's not the greatest reason for a Day 1 vote, but it's not totally unusual.

Although there were some bullzeye suspicions earlier that I didn't disagree with. I forget what they were right now, but that's because I'm having some drinks.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:47 am
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:06 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:38 pm
Bullzeye wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:59 pm Don't really have time to catch up before the lynch, but I can see from the Who Posted list that Nova still hasn't checked in so I will vote there today.

[VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine
Major scum afraid of being the decisive vote vibes here.
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LOL and I think this is the thing that I agreed with before. Gotta stop Mafia-ing drunk. Maybe Morgan Freeman is too influential on me.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:49 am
by Long Con
That said, I kind of suspect Colin and Mac for jumping on it.

Maybe I'll just shut up and wait for bullzeye to respond.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:52 am
by Long Con
Hey Turnip Head, I see you reading the thread... sorry for clinching your death dude. I just wanted the Deathly Hallow that you just... didn't have. :(

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:02 am
by MacDougall
Long Con wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:49 am That said, I kind of suspect Colin and Mac for jumping on it.

Maybe I'll just shut up and wait for bullzeye to respond.
How come for though?

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:03 am
by MacDougall
I came into this world as a reject
Look into these eyes
Then you'll see the size of these flames
Dwellin on the past
Its burnin' up my brain
Everyone that burns has to learn from the pain
Hey I think about the day
My girlie ran away with my pay
When fellas come to play
No she stuck with my homeez that she fucked
And I'm just a sucker with a lump in my throat
Hey, like a chump
Should I be feelin' bad? No
Should I be feelin good? No
Its kinda sad I'm the laughin' stock of the neighborhood
You would think that I'd be movin' on
But I'm a sucker like I said
Fucked up in the head, not!!
Maybe she just made a mistake
I should give her a break
My heart will ache either way
Hey, what the hell
Watcha want me to say
I wont lie that I cant deny
I did it all for the nookie
Come on
The nookie
Come on
So you can take that cookie
And Stick it up your, yeah!
Stick it up your, yeah!
Stick it up your, yeah!

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:04 am
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:02 am
Long Con wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:49 am That said, I kind of suspect Colin and Mac for jumping on it.

Maybe I'll just shut up and wait for bullzeye to respond.
How come for though?
It's about jumping on an action that could easily be innocuous Civ Day 1 "I didn't pay enough attention". It's real easy to put a negative spin on it, so it's the kind of thing that's common for baddies to jump on.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:05 am
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:03 am I came into this world as a reject
Look into these eyes
Then you'll see the size of these flames
Dwellin on the past
Its burnin' up my brain
Everyone that burns has to learn from the pain
Hey I think about the day
My girlie ran away with my pay
When fellas come to play
No she stuck with my homeez that she fucked
And I'm just a sucker with a lump in my throat
Hey, like a chump
Should I be feelin' bad? No
Should I be feelin good? No
Its kinda sad I'm the laughin' stock of the neighborhood
You would think that I'd be movin' on
But I'm a sucker like I said
Fucked up in the head, not!!
Maybe she just made a mistake
I should give her a break
My heart will ache either way
Hey, what the hell
Watcha want me to say
I wont lie that I cant deny
I did it all for the nookie
Come on
The nookie
Come on
So you can take that cookie
And Stick it up your, yeah!
Stick it up your, yeah!
Stick it up your, yeah!
I never really understood the 'cookie' part. Is that, like, a metaphor?

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:07 am
by MacDougall
Long Con wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:04 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:02 am
Long Con wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:49 am That said, I kind of suspect Colin and Mac for jumping on it.

Maybe I'll just shut up and wait for bullzeye to respond.
How come for though?
It's about jumping on an action that could easily be innocuous Civ Day 1 "I didn't pay enough attention". It's real easy to put a negative spin on it, so it's the kind of thing that's common for baddies to jump on.
Yeah but it's more common for non baddies to jump on it

Checkmate

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:10 am
by Long Con
MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:07 am
Long Con wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:04 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:02 am
Long Con wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:49 am That said, I kind of suspect Colin and Mac for jumping on it.

Maybe I'll just shut up and wait for bullzeye to respond.
How come for though?
It's about jumping on an action that could easily be innocuous Civ Day 1 "I didn't pay enough attention". It's real easy to put a negative spin on it, so it's the kind of thing that's common for baddies to jump on.
Yeah but it's more common for non baddies to jump on it

Checkmate
Eeeeeeeeenhh... I'd really rather hear from Morgan Freeman about this...

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:30 am
by DharmaHelper
So anyway my RDR2 game glitched on a mission cuz I'd already looted the house that you're supposed to loot in the mission when I was fuckin' around in free-roam so thats cool.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:50 am
by MacDougall
Long Con wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:10 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:07 am
Long Con wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:04 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 1:02 am
Long Con wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:49 am That said, I kind of suspect Colin and Mac for jumping on it.

Maybe I'll just shut up and wait for bullzeye to respond.
How come for though?
It's about jumping on an action that could easily be innocuous Civ Day 1 "I didn't pay enough attention". It's real easy to put a negative spin on it, so it's the kind of thing that's common for baddies to jump on.
Yeah but it's more common for non baddies to jump on it

Checkmate
Eeeeeeeeenhh... I'd really rather hear from Morgan Freeman about this...
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Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:04 am
by nutella
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:47 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:38 pm
Where was my vote before TH when you observed a change in my vote?
Quin, I think. I just remember you being the 4th one in the list and tying up the votes at 4.
I was the 2nd vote for TH, and at the time I don’t believe you had more than one vote.

I wasn’t around, and you made it look as though I’d dropped in to try to save you. I believe @juliets at least was fooled by that portrayal. And if you’re a mafioso, in this effort you have attempted to glue me to you, as your “partner” (in the eyes of any clueless civilians trying to interpret events) who wanted TH lynched merely to keep you alive. It’s entirely false.

I am not pleased.
You understand full well that she just erroneously assumed the poll votes reflected vote order (a reasonable assumption, as they damn well should :disappoint: ). Stop fake-reading too much into this. You're full of shit.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:04 am
by nutella
I take back my town lean on Jay. He's jumped right back in digging his own grave.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:08 am
by Long Con
nutella wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:04 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:47 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:38 pm
Where was my vote before TH when you observed a change in my vote?
Quin, I think. I just remember you being the 4th one in the list and tying up the votes at 4.
I was the 2nd vote for TH, and at the time I don’t believe you had more than one vote.

I wasn’t around, and you made it look as though I’d dropped in to try to save you. I believe @juliets at least was fooled by that portrayal. And if you’re a mafioso, in this effort you have attempted to glue me to you, as your “partner” (in the eyes of any clueless civilians trying to interpret events) who wanted TH lynched merely to keep you alive. It’s entirely false.

I am not pleased.
You understand full well that she just erroneously assumed the poll votes reflected vote order (a reasonable assumption, as they damn well should :disappoint: ). Stop fake-reading too much into this. You're full of shit.
But she said she remembers Jay tying up the votes at 4.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:16 am
by nutella
Long Con wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:08 am
nutella wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:04 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:47 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:38 pm
Where was my vote before TH when you observed a change in my vote?
Quin, I think. I just remember you being the 4th one in the list and tying up the votes at 4.
I was the 2nd vote for TH, and at the time I don’t believe you had more than one vote.

I wasn’t around, and you made it look as though I’d dropped in to try to save you. I believe @juliets at least was fooled by that portrayal. And if you’re a mafioso, in this effort you have attempted to glue me to you, as your “partner” (in the eyes of any clueless civilians trying to interpret events) who wanted TH lynched merely to keep you alive. It’s entirely false.

I am not pleased.
You understand full well that she just erroneously assumed the poll votes reflected vote order (a reasonable assumption, as they damn well should :disappoint: ). Stop fake-reading too much into this. You're full of shit.
But she said she remembers Jay tying up the votes at 4.
No she just saw that Jay's name was fourth and assumed he must have just voted there.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:21 am
by nutella
I just think it's ridiculous of Jay to try to paint owner as having some elaborate motive behind lying about jay's vote rather than the occam's razor explanation that she made a legitimate mistake (and a fairly understandable one, except for the unlikelihood that jay would change a vote without posting).

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:00 am
by juliets
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:47 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:38 pm
Where was my vote before TH when you observed a change in my vote?
Quin, I think. I just remember you being the 4th one in the list and tying up the votes at 4.
I was the 2nd vote for TH, and at the time I don’t believe you had more than one vote.

I wasn’t around, and you made it look as though I’d dropped in to try to save you. I believe @juliets at least was fooled by that portrayal. And if you’re a mafioso, in this effort you have attempted to glue me to you, as your “partner” (in the eyes of any clueless civilians trying to interpret events) who wanted TH lynched merely to keep you alive. It’s entirely false.

I am not pleased.
Sad but true, I was indeed fooled.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:10 am
by juliets
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:13 am Phones are an asspain. I am browsing ISOs, and I will just state emerging gut reads:

Colin - good
DH - good
INH - bad
Kyle - good

Bullzeye - bad
Epignosis - good
Glorfindel - good
Owner - good
poutanko - good
Soneji - good

juliets - bad
Long Con - good
Lunalee - good
Mac - good
nutella - good
Quin - good

Jack - bad
lap - bad
nova - good
speed - good
timmer - bad
karavalenge - bad

Request expansion as you so desire. I should be able to get to it at some point. Chuckles for Slytherin
JJJ can you explain why you are seeing me as bad?

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:25 am
by juliets
Long Con wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:40 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:31 am
timmer wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:52 pm Okay, so reading owner's iso, I'd say he really and oddly blindered onto DH very early, and for what seems like entirely prev-game reasons. This allows him to talk a lot about suspicions towards sh, but without having to defend anything he says because, hey, is based on last game. And when pressed about it, he just versions of iunno I just feel it...

This can be a baddie move, but it can also just be blindering which ive done in the past. Those who know owner well, do you get any kind of alignment read from this angle?
Bullzeye wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:59 pm Don't really have time to catch up before the lynch, but I can see from the Who Posted list that Nova still hasn't checked in so I will vote there today.

[VOTE: novaselinenever] aubergine
These are my least favorite posts in the thread, for unrelated reasons.

Timmer’s is a typical hedge, complete with all of adverbs and the disclaimer to render the product a cringe.

Bullzeye’s vote is just ugly under the circumstances. Evasion of prevailing discussions in favor of a whatever vote on a no-show is a bad look.
The timmer thing is pretty hedgey... complete with the "I'm seeking greater understanding" at the end.

I really can't blame bullzeye for going for a non-poster because we lost Mega Man because of absent players (no it totally wasn't because I was fooling around it was absent players)... I think your analysis of "ugly under the circumstances" is excessive. Why were these circumstances particularly ugly-inducing? It's not the greatest reason for a Day 1 vote, but it's not totally unusual.

Although there were some bullzeye suspicions earlier that I didn't disagree with. I forget what they were right now, but that's because I'm having some drinks.
I was going to vote for Bullzeye because his posts were few, jokey and/or lacking content. Most of us were putting a lot of thought into our vote and he just breezed by with a look at the poll and a vote. These things made me think "bad".

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:38 am
by ColinIsCool
MacDougall wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:06 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 8:51 pm Good:
Epignosis
timmer
DH
INH
Poutanko
Quin
Karavalenge
Jack

Wary:
Kyle
Glorf
Juliets
Long Con
Lunalee
Speedchuck

Shit List:
JJJ
Bullzeye
Owner
Soneji
Mac
Nutella

N/A:
lapluie
Nova
Oh behave I haven't even been paying attention to the game.
That’s what rustles my jimmies.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:40 am
by ColinIsCool
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:30 pm Owner can you please expand briefly on those four scum reads, or direct me to already existing explanations
Colin and Luna both read me town, but then also voted for me. Both of them seem opportunistic.
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:49 pm I think Colin is scum. Even before the flip, he was setting this up.
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:06 pm If TH is good, Owner still deserves scrutiny. If Owner is bad, check TH’s wagon.
He read me town for a little bit, but the instant things started going south for me he quickly did what felt like a 180 to me and pushed for my lynch.

Or basically, this whole if-then situation is particularly bad when both wagons are positioned on good players, which I feel like Colin knows this.
Luna had sort of a tunnel vision or was quick to think me asking what changed Colin's mind meant in her mind that I was asking where I went wrong.

I guess imo it feels like they weren't truly reading me as town to begin with. Or how else could they make the leap to vote for me?

Kara is picture tell read.

Poutanko is lacking activity or vocal presence in the thread. Town!poutanko felt very noticeable to me in past games. She just appears to be different. Also the popcorn emote is sometimes associated with scum watching town destroy each other.
I didn’t vote for you.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 9:51 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
nutella wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 2:04 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:47 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:41 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:38 pm
Where was my vote before TH when you observed a change in my vote?
Quin, I think. I just remember you being the 4th one in the list and tying up the votes at 4.
I was the 2nd vote for TH, and at the time I don’t believe you had more than one vote.

I wasn’t around, and you made it look as though I’d dropped in to try to save you. I believe @juliets at least was fooled by that portrayal. And if you’re a mafioso, in this effort you have attempted to glue me to you, as your “partner” (in the eyes of any clueless civilians trying to interpret events) who wanted TH lynched merely to keep you alive. It’s entirely false.

I am not pleased.
You understand full well that she just erroneously assumed the poll votes reflected vote order (a reasonable assumption, as they damn well should :disappoint: ). Stop fake-reading too much into this. You're full of shit.
No, I don’t know that. Owner’s language suggested she witnessed me changing my vote. She’s allowed to have made an error and that’s why I got in her grill — I’m not making the friendly assumption without investigating it first.

I read her as a civilian, as I already indicated.

You’re behaving like I often have. I’m glad you can fill the void I’ve left. ;)

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:05 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
juliets wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:10 amJJJ can you explain why you are seeing me as bad?
There are a collection of small issues that I take with your posts which add up to that judgment. Your handling of me has been questionable — early in Day 1 when I was giving Quin hell for no reason (a strategic approach I’ve employed for years which still somehow seems misunderstood), you stood in his defense for what I perceive to be a poor reason that is suggestive of TMI. You have either faintly or overtly contributed to the negative thread climate surrounding me in this game, but only as a commentator and never with action. I am concerned that you were positioning yourself in your dealings with me instead of acting upon a read you really believed in. Grabbing example posts is difficult on mobile, maybe later.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:20 am
by speedchuck
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:24 am I remember every Mafia thing. What a pointless talent.
I remember almost nothing of past games. That's why my signature exists.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:23 am
by Jackofhearts2005
lapluie wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:59 pm helo checking in
Hi, Lap. :)

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:24 am
by speedchuck
I still don't believe in picture tells.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:25 am
by speedchuck
If Kara is scum I will believe.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:29 am
by speedchuck
In other news, Colin is town. He cares dearly about the roof.
Nutella and Owner are town, even if they are wrong I disagree with a lot of their reads and such.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:54 am
by Jackofhearts2005
DharmaHelper wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:05 pm Thinking out loud, is there a way to math out who has what/who targeted who with what/etc using the potential House Points as a jumping off point?

Or would that require too much outing/claiming/bullshit to be worth anything in the long term.
The later.

All you’ll get is that x players forgot to submit actions minus y players have used all three powers give or take mod error.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:56 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Plus, I don’t envy DDL having to count up and average all that stuff. I’m certainly not going to duplicate his work.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:56 am
by Jackofhearts2005
karavalenge wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:33 pm I think Gryffindor is suspect since the murder occured in front of their common room.
This checks out.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:57 am
by DharmaHelper
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:54 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:05 pm Thinking out loud, is there a way to math out who has what/who targeted who with what/etc using the potential House Points as a jumping off point?

Or would that require too much outing/claiming/bullshit to be worth anything in the long term.
The later.

All you’ll get is that x players forgot to submit actions minus y players have used all three powers give or take mod error.
Thanks for the timely reply.

After I posted this I figured since the House Points use "minimum" values to score points and not "Each time you do X" they'd be more or less unreadable.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:01 am
by Jackofhearts2005
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:57 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 10:54 am
DharmaHelper wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 5:05 pm Thinking out loud, is there a way to math out who has what/who targeted who with what/etc using the potential House Points as a jumping off point?

Or would that require too much outing/claiming/bullshit to be worth anything in the long term.
The later.

All you’ll get is that x players forgot to submit actions minus y players have used all three powers give or take mod error.
Thanks for the timely reply.

After I posted this I figured since the House Points use "minimum" values to score points and not "Each time you do X" they'd be more or less unreadable.
My time turner is busted. *sneers*

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:01 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Actually, a grackle ate it.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:02 am
by Owner of a Lonely Heart
ColinIsCool wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 8:40 am
I didn’t vote for you.
My mistake:
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 12:59 pm Still want to lynch 3J, but Owner isn’t a bad call either.
You suggested that my lynch would be a good one. That's around the time votes started piling on me. Both inh and timmer voted me soon thereafter by the looks of things.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:06 am
by Lunalee
Epignosis wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:11 pm
Spoiler: show
Lunalee wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:44 pm gut read: Epi and Owner are scum mates
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:58 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:31 pm I suspect these people: JJJ, TH, DH, and timmer in no particular order.
Enlighten me about the JJJ read.
Engages with Epi in his player salad post.
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:31 pm This sounds like a bullshit act to me.
Which part? And who?
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:34 pm
I think you're trying to set DH up.
A lot of his posts read scummy to me. Maybe, he'll improve tomorrow, but so far, I don't see it.
DharmaHelper wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:35 pm
That was a joke.

Or was it.
Hmm. You really aren't helping your case. But then again, I can be pretty annoying too.
Epi tries to distance himself from Owner
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:23 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:19 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:11 pm
I respect you, but that doesn't mean I'll stop being critical of you.
Seems like you're constantly and exclusively critical of me, but hell I've got pretty thick skin I'll be fine. Anyway good luck with that I guess.
JJJ seems alright. I want to look at Quin. Epi is null. Speedy, I'm slightly worried about.

I think yourself, JJJ, nova, and poutanko are the players I feel like I might have some meta on.
Owner produces their own player salad post and lists Epi as "null"
If Owner had three or four or five or six votes (I think I heard all of these numbers) around the time this post was made, ask yourself what its purpose was.

The language of this post doesn't suggest "gut" at all, but rather is assertive and sure of itself in a way that doesn't ring true with respect to mere intuition.

"Engages with Epi in his player salad post."

I suppose in this day and age if you name more than two people as suspects, you are guilty of making a "salad" or some nonsense such as that. I named my four top suspects at the time. I ask you, is there a way I can do that without someone being able to characterize it as a "salad?"

"Epi tries to distance himself from Owner"

The biggest issue I have with this particular comment is its circularity: It assumes the conclusion it aims to support is true, which is the only way the premise can be true. This suggests to me that Lunalee is less interested in figuring out if I'm bad or not and more interested in making it look like I am bad should Owner be lynched and be revealed as bad.

" Owner produces their own player salad post and lists Epi as "null""

And? What about it?

I submit that when it appeared likely that Owner was on the way out the door, Lunalee used one of my own favorite mafia tricks in the book: Getting a preemptive start on the next Day.
Actually the poll was a three-way tie at the time (and Owner was one of the three) I started making this post.
I started looking at Owner's ISO, and I thought, "hey with the way Owner and Epi have interacted with each other, what if they were scum mates?"
Throwing out actual reasons you suspect 4 people is better than just saying you suspect those 4 people. That to me is what makes the difference between "player salad" and "here are my suspects."
The reason I thought is was strange that Owner lists you as "null" was because she seemed to have opinions on everyone else she interacted with except you.
Those were my thoughts, and admittedly I threw out my "gut read" post without a ton of thought, but it was close to EOD, and I thought it might be useful for discussion.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Day 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:07 am
by Lunalee
Epignosis wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:11 pm
Spoiler: show
Lunalee wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 3:44 pm gut read: Epi and Owner are scum mates
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:58 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:31 pm I suspect these people: JJJ, TH, DH, and timmer in no particular order.
Enlighten me about the JJJ read.
Engages with Epi in his player salad post.
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:31 pm This sounds like a bullshit act to me.
Which part? And who?
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:39 pm
Epignosis wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:34 pm
I think you're trying to set DH up.
A lot of his posts read scummy to me. Maybe, he'll improve tomorrow, but so far, I don't see it.
DharmaHelper wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:35 pm
That was a joke.

Or was it.
Hmm. You really aren't helping your case. But then again, I can be pretty annoying too.
Epi tries to distance himself from Owner
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:23 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:19 pm
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:11 pm
I respect you, but that doesn't mean I'll stop being critical of you.
Seems like you're constantly and exclusively critical of me, but hell I've got pretty thick skin I'll be fine. Anyway good luck with that I guess.
JJJ seems alright. I want to look at Quin. Epi is null. Speedy, I'm slightly worried about.

I think yourself, JJJ, nova, and poutanko are the players I feel like I might have some meta on.
Owner produces their own player salad post and lists Epi as "null"
If Owner had three or four or five or six votes (I think I heard all of these numbers) around the time this post was made, ask yourself what its purpose was.

The language of this post doesn't suggest "gut" at all, but rather is assertive and sure of itself in a way that doesn't ring true with respect to mere intuition.

"Engages with Epi in his player salad post."

I suppose in this day and age if you name more than two people as suspects, you are guilty of making a "salad" or some nonsense such as that. I named my four top suspects at the time. I ask you, is there a way I can do that without someone being able to characterize it as a "salad?"

"Epi tries to distance himself from Owner"

The biggest issue I have with this particular comment is its circularity: It assumes the conclusion it aims to support is true, which is the only way the premise can be true. This suggests to me that Lunalee is less interested in figuring out if I'm bad or not and more interested in making it look like I am bad should Owner be lynched and be revealed as bad.

" Owner produces their own player salad post and lists Epi as "null""

And? What about it?

I submit that when it appeared likely that Owner was on the way out the door, Lunalee used one of my own favorite mafia tricks in the book: Getting a preemptive start on the next Day.
Actually the poll was a three-way tie at the time (and Owner was one of the three) I started making this post.
I started looking at Owner's ISO, and I thought, "hey with the way Owner and Epi have interacted with each other, what if they were scum mates?"
Throwing out actual reasons you suspect 4 people is better than just saying you suspect those 4 people. That to me is what makes the difference between "player salad" and "here are my suspects."
The reason I thought is was strange that Owner lists you as "null" was because she seemed to have opinions on everyone else she interacted with except you.
Those were my thoughts, and admittedly I threw out my "gut read" post without a ton of thought, but it was close to EOD, and I thought it might be useful for discussion.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:09 am
by Lunalee
oops

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:13 am
by Lunalee
[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention] sort of answered your question in my response to Epi, but at the point I started to look at Owner, the poll was at a 3-way tie between you, Owner, and TH, I believe.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:25 am
by poutanko
[mention]Soneji[/mention] your avy+sig set, if it's just your way of speaking I can't tell Image

[mention]nutella[/mention] it's from NF emotes but not all of them can be viewed openly so need to upload it somewhere else to use them
https://www.narutoforums.org/help/smilies

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:26 am
by poutanko
Time to read ~

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:27 am
by DharmaHelper
Full disclosure I have a busy day today and I probably won't be able to do a re-reading of the end of D1 until tomorrow, but I'll try.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 11:35 am
by DharmaHelper
And by busy I mean adult responsible shit and then tonight I drew the short straw again and have to hand out candy again

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:05 pm
by poutanko
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:42 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:30 pm Owner can you please expand briefly on those four scum reads, or direct me to already existing explanations
Colin and Luna both read me town, but then also voted for me. Both of them seem opportunistic.
Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 10:49 pm I think Colin is scum. Even before the flip, he was setting this up.
ColinIsCool wrote: Tue Oct 30, 2018 5:06 pm If TH is good, Owner still deserves scrutiny. If Owner is bad, check TH’s wagon.
He read me town for a little bit, but the instant things started going south for me he quickly did what felt like a 180 to me and pushed for my lynch.

Or basically, this whole if-then situation is particularly bad when both wagons are positioned on good players, which I feel like Colin knows this.
Luna had sort of a tunnel vision or was quick to think me asking what changed Colin's mind meant in her mind that I was asking where I went wrong.

I guess imo it feels like they weren't truly reading me as town to begin with. Or how else could they make the leap to vote for me?

Kara is picture tell read.

Poutanko is lacking activity or vocal presence in the thread. Town!poutanko felt very noticeable to me in past games. She just appears to be different. Also the popcorn emote is sometimes associated with scum watching town destroy each other.
Had something to do IRL, you can chill :beer:

Also, Colin is my strongest town read Image He just said whatever however and whenever without thinking much (if any at all). Dude is filterless. Same with Luna and Nutella although I will put Luna under Nutella (she's not as bold as Nutella but she was like this too on Outpost game, not as bold as I'd like her to be). Out of your scum read I only agree with Kara but it's not because of picture tell Image

Other than Fav 7, Fav 8, This Town Called Home (you rolled scum in 2 of those 3), is there another game we're both in before?

Some people that catch my attention next :bounce:

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:36 pm
by karavalenge
I'm just confused about "picture read" to the point where I have just ignored it completely until now but since it keeps being brought up.

I apologize for having fun and picking out a fun Harry Potter themed comic to share during the pregame. Clearly this was because I am scum. For reasons I have yet to determine beyond "posted a picture". I wrongly assumed that during Day 0 I would not be judged for posting a picture and even spoiler tagging it so that people wouldn't have to see it if they didn't like it.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:37 pm
by DharmaHelper
karavalenge wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:36 pm I'm just confused about "picture read" to the point where I have just ignored it completely until now but since it keeps being brought up.

I apologize for having fun and picking out a fun Harry Potter themed comic to share during the pregame. Clearly this was because I am scum. For reasons I have yet to determine beyond "posted a picture". I wrongly assumed that during Day 0 I would not be judged for posting a picture and even spoiler tagging it so that people wouldn't have to see it if they didn't like it.
I *just* went through your ISO for a picture/gif post cuz I was like "what f***** picture?" and its of Hagrid.

If me being Negan = Negan is bad therefore I am I bad

Why is Kara being Hagrid = Hagrid is good therefore Kara is bad.

Re: Hogwarts Mafia - Night 1

Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:39 pm
by karavalenge
DharmaHelper wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:37 pm
karavalenge wrote: Wed Oct 31, 2018 12:36 pm I'm just confused about "picture read" to the point where I have just ignored it completely until now but since it keeps being brought up.

I apologize for having fun and picking out a fun Harry Potter themed comic to share during the pregame. Clearly this was because I am scum. For reasons I have yet to determine beyond "posted a picture". I wrongly assumed that during Day 0 I would not be judged for posting a picture and even spoiler tagging it so that people wouldn't have to see it if they didn't like it.
I *just* went through your ISO for a picture/gif post cuz I was like "what f***** picture?" and its of Hagrid.

If me being Negan = Negan is bad therefore I am I bad

Why is Kara being Hagrid = Hagrid is good therefore Kara is bad.
No no, clearly I am the book on Monsters because reasons.