The Syndicate

Dont tell me u DMd her rofl

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:03 pm oh no im not dead


oh no carot was town???


ugh


well at least im pretty dang sure sloonei is mafia

he basically lolcatted in night chat

What? No I did not.

[mention]nutella[/mention] why are you not suspicious of me?

I have not looked at the grasslands yet but Hally was a comfortable town read for me coming out of yesterday.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:34 pm Dont tell me u DMd her rofl

No, I just wanted to try a weird trap and see if Hally had access to the treehouse from scumchat.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:39 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:34 pm Dont tell me u DMd her rofl

No, I just wanted to try a weird trap and see if Hally had access to the treehouse from scumchat.

I did not link it, I wanted Hally to say something like "yeah I skimmed it" so that I could potentially catch them.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:36 pm What? No I did not.

What did you do

Oh was a joke lol soz

Ur like, a dry humor type of gal aint ya? Or how do u call it. Pan faced? Stone faced

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:40 pm Oh was a joke lol soz

Ur like, a dry humor type of gal aint ya? Or how do u call it. Pan faced? Stone faced

Not really a joke either. I just thought I maybe had a 0.001% chance of catching scum!Hally in a small gambit.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:40 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:36 pm What? No I did not.

What did you do

Nothing at all. I was doing other things and had nothing to contribute to what seemed mostly to be a discussion not related to solving the game.

first of all, i really want to know what the hell happened in the treehouse

Potential bias in the following assertion:

Alison killed one of the two people most consistently opposing her on Day 1 (nova and I), and she picked the one that tutuu wasn't yelling about auto-voting today.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:36 pm @nutella why are you not suspicious of me?

I have no concerns, that's all. I don't know how to articulate it better except your hunting feels genuine and not like the Fake!Jay that I know I can sniff out.

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:39 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:34 pm Dont tell me u DMd her rofl

No, I just wanted to try a weird trap and see if Hally had access to the treehouse from scumchat.

uhh. weird

I'm fine with sharing the treehouse chat as soon as Hally responds to Alison's gripes.

Marking myself here for a 209 post cap.

fwiw i don't think it'll be super fruitful to analyze nova's reads since i think he was a good kill choice precisely because his reads weren't very developed and yet he was a pretty universal townread. that's pretty much an optimal kill target -- someone who is commonly accepted as town, but who didn't actually provide a ton of content for us to delve in and analyze as motivation/spew.

RIP town folk. Sorry I wasn't present in the night chat, I was hoping it would be quiet but it sounds like it wasn't.

I guess i can see alison mafia with carotte flipping town. Means that alison if mafia was not playing poorly like i thought she was. Shes in a good position rn imo if shes maf

I think I'm just going to start tinfoiling everyone right now. Nutella saying that Sloonei was lolcatting is a pretty clear misrep, he was barely there at all and certainly didn't make any jokes or flail like a caught scum. I don't really understand how town viewing that same chat could come to that conclusion (maaaaybe if they're heavily confbiased). I think I'm going to have to reevaluate pretty completely since Hally and Nutella were two of my top townreads but now I have some reason to think both of them are suspicious - and at the same time Alison's push on me seems like a losing one if she's mafia so she's actually looking a little better.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:02 pm @novaselinenever was found with a knife in his back.

He was a seeker (town).

Well this is an interesting night kill result, at least for me.

Glad to know my possible tinfoil read was wrong, but I had hoped if I was wrong I would've realized that if they lived longer to make posts that I would see as towny.

That isn't to say I was overall scum-reading him, but I was definitely considering the possibility of it for D2 or D3 re-evaluation since their entrance rubbed me the wrong way.

I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.

Okay, this makes a little more sense.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:02 pm @novaselinenever was found with a knife in his back.

He was a seeker (town).

Well this is an interesting night kill result, at least for me.

Glad to know my possible tinfoil read was wrong, but I had hoped if I was wrong I would've realized that if they lived longer to make posts that I would see as towny.

That isn't to say I was overall scum-reading him, but I was definitely considering the possibility of it for D2 or D3 re-evaluation since their entrance rubbed me the wrong way.

This post is triggering me in a very level one way.

Why did you feel it necessary to explain this, Martin?

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.

Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] what is my alignment?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.

Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted.

I don't think activity/lack of activity in the nightchats is AI for most people since some people just want a break from playing during the night phase like they're used to.

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.

Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted.

Because he knew carotte's flip would cement him as the next priority suspect? I feel like that's pretty obvious

Does alison + thunal w/w make sense? I found it a bit odd thunal voted alison eod1 just to show she wanna to vote her (like she put her at 4 votes, everyone was at 3, it was like "hey guys look at me im putting her at 4 votes"). Dunno

i don't have the context of what happened in the treehouse, and i think that's a missing puzzle piece for why the vibe of today is so different, but i really hope we continue w/the same level headed and clear communication that all of us showed on day one. exploring all possibilities is a good thing, but paranoia isn't. i know that the carotte flip sucks, but i don't see a reason to feel panicked yet

tbh the people im immediately intending to dig into today are sloonei/alison/jagged - and probably in that order. i do not think all of those names are likely to be town, and the dynamic between them is worth exploring regardless. i know that you guys are waiting for hally to respond to something before you link the treehouse, but i hope that i can look at it soon - i feel like im missing a big portion of the game

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:59 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.

Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted.

I don't think activity/lack of activity in the nightchats is AI for most people since some people just want a break from playing during the night phase like they're used to.

Fwiw, nights are usually open on this site so most of us are accustomed to putting in some effort overnight, albeit a lot less. I just really think if Sloonei were town he'd have put in some effort to redeem himself and contribute to some of the solving/discussion in there

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:00 pm Does alison + thunal w/w make sense? I found it a bit odd thunal voted alison eod1 just to show she wanna to vote her (like she put her at 4 votes, everyone was at 3, it was like "hey guys look at me im putting her at 4 votes"). Dunno

I knew my vote had no impact but it was more of a representative thing showing a strong suspicion + maaaybe there's a tiny chance people pile on Alison.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:00 pm Does alison + thunal w/w make sense? I found it a bit odd thunal voted alison eod1 just to show she wanna to vote her (like she put her at 4 votes, everyone was at 3, it was like "hey guys look at me im putting her at 4 votes"). Dunno

I wouldn't entirely discount the idea. I do tend to doubt though that Alison pointedly resists Thunal's growing town credit by putting forth a contrary case against her if they're both mafia. That doesn't strike me as an optimal play, and Alison is someone for whom optimality is more important than the average bear.

[mention]JaggedJimmyJay[/mention], I don't think Hally is going to be available to answer your thing for a while, and I think you should weigh that with the priority of providing spf the context of the night chat.

The tree house chat wasnt that toxic it was nanook bickering with nutella and me bickering with nutella and a bunch of reads here and there

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:56 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:02 pm @novaselinenever was found with a knife in his back.

He was a seeker (town).

Well this is an interesting night kill result, at least for me.

Glad to know my possible tinfoil read was wrong, but I had hoped if I was wrong I would've realized that if they lived longer to make posts that I would see as towny.

That isn't to say I was overall scum-reading him, but I was definitely considering the possibility of it for D2 or D3 re-evaluation since their entrance rubbed me the wrong way.

This post is triggering me in a very level one way.

Why did you feel it necessary to explain this, Martin?

Maybe because I am human and some things I like to comment on?

I really wasn't expecting it so I wanted to express that.

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:03 pm The tree house chat wasnt that toxic it was nanook bickering with nutella and me bickering with nutella and a bunch of reads here and there

well I can tell you that my own personal experience is that it was toxic and I was very unhappy and considered subbing out for like the first time in my life

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:05 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:56 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:02 pm @novaselinenever was found with a knife in his back.

He was a seeker (town).

Well this is an interesting night kill result, at least for me.

Glad to know my possible tinfoil read was wrong, but I had hoped if I was wrong I would've realized that if they lived longer to make posts that I would see as towny.

That isn't to say I was overall scum-reading him, but I was definitely considering the possibility of it for D2 or D3 re-evaluation since their entrance rubbed me the wrong way.

This post is triggering me in a very level one way.

Why did you feel it necessary to explain this, Martin?

Maybe because I am human and some things I like to comment on?

I really wasn't expecting it so I wanted to express that.

Not everything a person says or does is deemed necessary, y'know.

There are humans behind the keyboards.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:03 pm @JaggedJimmyJay, I don't think Hally is going to be available to answer your thing for a while, and I think you should weigh that with the priority of providing spf the context of the night chat.

I mean hell, if Hally is mafia then they already have a link in their chat. Hally don't click on this until you answer the previous query.

also hally tends to respond to things in order without reading everything ahead of it so I think that should be fine

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:57 pm @Sloonei what is my alignment?

Town.

Why can I be mafia?

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:06 pm

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:05 pm Maybe because I am human and some things I like to comment on?

I really wasn't expecting it so I wanted to express that.

Not everything a person says or does is deemed necessary, y'know.

There are humans behind the keyboards.

Sure. Nonetheless you made a post and it's my job to discern the motivations underlying it. I've seen mafia do things like that. Go about the new day however you will and I'll see how I feel.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:00 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:59 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.

Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted.

I don't think activity/lack of activity in the nightchats is AI for most people since some people just want a break from playing during the night phase like they're used to.

Fwiw, nights are usually open on this site so most of us are accustomed to putting in some effort overnight, albeit a lot less. I just really think if Sloonei were town he'd have put in some effort to redeem himself and contribute to some of the solving/discussion in there

That's interesting, I haven't played in a game that isn't this setup where nights were open. Does Sloonei usually contribute a lot during the night? He did start looking better than he did previously near EoD, but not good since he piled on Carotte with everyone else. He also had to post his way out of suspicion no matter his alignment so him posting more is pretty NAI for him.

Also, there was so much agreement yesterday I found it odd especially since I wasn't quite aligned with the thread consensus. It seems like scum were not only content with the Carotte wagon but also content on some level with the consensus PoE (Sloonei/Alison/Carotte/LC) so I'm inclined to think that maybe we're on the wrong track.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:07 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:57 pm @Sloonei what is my alignment?

Town.

Why can I be mafia?

Why am I town?

You can be mafia, because I would describe your game as "continually doing just little enough that I cannot form a confident read on you". It's not a problem I typically encounter with Sloonei. I don't always get to a solid town read quickly, but I usually do. I also think this is the first time you've shared a stance on me, and we're already a full cycle into the game. So these things are odd, Sloober.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:59 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.

Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted.

Because he knew carotte's flip would cement him as the next priority suspect? I feel like that's pretty obvious

Gotcha.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:00 pm

Thunal33 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:59 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.

Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted.

I don't think activity/lack of activity in the nightchats is AI for most people since some people just want a break from playing during the night phase like they're used to.

Fwiw, nights are usually open on this site so most of us are accustomed to putting in some effort overnight, albeit a lot less. I just really think if Sloonei were town he'd have put in some effort to redeem himself and contribute to some of the solving/discussion in there

I would normally be more present at night, but I didn't like being in Quicktopic so I just took the night off instead.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:05 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:03 pm The tree house chat wasnt that toxic it was nanook bickering with nutella and me bickering with nutella and a bunch of reads here and there

well I can tell you that my own personal experience is that it was toxic and I was very unhappy and considered subbing out for like the first time in my life

Sounds like something I'm glad I missed.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:11 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:07 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:57 pm @Sloonei what is my alignment?

Town.

Why can I be mafia?

Why am I town?

You can be mafia, because I would describe your game as "continually doing just little enough that I cannot form a confident read on you". It's not a problem I typically encounter with Sloonei. I don't always get to a solid town read quickly, but I usually do. I also think this is the first time you've shared a stance on me, and we're already a full cycle into the game. So these things are odd, Sloober.

I liked your initial defense of me, but was wary because mafia Jay would need to do those things to not draw my attention. I didn't have a firm read to offer on Day 1 and wanted to see how things developed. This push on me feels to be coming from a place of real concern.

I signed up for this game so that I could get back into playing mafia without it consuming my life. I don't intend to do all of the things I usually do, and I'm not up for that anyway. But I will hopefully be doing things that make it obvious I am town soon enough.

Thunal and Alison are names I would like to dig into today, and I've already seen others float them. That is encouraging.

My strong TRs so far: tutuu, SPF, JJJ

I think JJJ waiting to share the link and trying a slightly unconventional way of reading Hally is really towny.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.

I was not invested in it, yeah. I did not have anything to say and had other things to do in my life. I was at work yesterday evening, and was Taking Care of Business all afternoon today. The night result had been settled in here during Day 1.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:17 pm I liked your initial defense of me, but was wary because mafia Jay would need to do those things to not draw my attention. I didn't have a firm read to offer on Day 1 and wanted to see how things developed. This push on me feels to be coming from a place of real concern.

I signed up for this game so that I could get back into playing mafia without it consuming my life. I don't intend to do all of the things I usually do, and I'm not up for that anyway. But I will hopefully be doing things that make it obvious I am town soon enough.

Thunal and Alison are names I would like to dig into today, and I've already seen others float them. That is encouraging.

Cool beans. You've got ~90 posts to be all Sloonei about your business, so do your thing.

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:59 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:56 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:54 pm I am exaggerating a bit when I say sloonei was lolcatting, but he really did not post any serious content and seemed completely flippant about the night vote. He really felt detached in the way a deflated scum would.

Why would he be deflated? Town was yeeted.

Because he knew carotte's flip would cement him as the next priority suspect? I feel like that's pretty obvious

Why can't it be town-town, what is it about Sloonei-Carotte that one of them has to be a wolf?