Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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You have no experience with this guy right?Golden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:13 amTake this post mac. It’s TMI… that’s how it reads to me.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:00 amGuillotine wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:22 pm There is def a wolf in Mac, Alison, Golden, Neon dynamic.
The Alison/guillo dynamic is just blatant wolfmate to me.
Thanks for letting it go, and I forget the mech you have on him but I am gonna let you slide like you're letting me slide.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:57 am As far as town players go, Guillo is probably the person who will tilt someone into scumreading him on their first experience with him more predictably than anyone.
You might be right, but like... did you not read the part about me maybe having mech here?
This simple little post from day 1 might end up making me clear PC. Funny world we live in.Party Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 17, 2023 5:32 am Anywho DZ gotta go.
My reads are Cape/Lucy town; Guillo/HK prolly contains a wolf but TBD who
I'll bbl
I might be wrong. I might be right. Hard for me to evaluate or troubleshoot your mech thoughts, but i take them as a + unless you think otherwise.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:57 am As far as town players go, Guillo is probably the person who will tilt someone into scumreading him on their first experience with him more predictably than anyone.
You might be right, but like... did you not read the part about me maybe having mech here?
Essentially Guillo freaked out and hard counterclaimed me for having his role. When he realised that there were two flipped town with the same role he immediately dropped it and pretended that he was testing me lol. I believe he wasn't testing me, and that he really does have my role. Especially because my/our role is very similar to the role that Cape and Pyxxy both had, in both name (it's a nationality of townie much like theirs is kiwi] and it's function being that 2 or more people need to vote me for me to activate a vigilante shot. I can also tell you that because of my role I can see a joke in the Pyxxy and Cape roles that you guys probably can't see lol.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:06 amThanks for letting it go, and I forget the mech you have on him but I am gonna let you slide like you're letting me slide.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:57 am As far as town players go, Guillo is probably the person who will tilt someone into scumreading him on their first experience with him more predictably than anyone.
You might be right, but like... did you not read the part about me maybe having mech here?
@Guillotine what’s your response?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:19 amEssentially Guillo freaked out and hard counterclaimed me for having his role. When he realised that there were two flipped town with the same role he immediately dropped it and pretended that he was testing me lol. I believe he wasn't testing me, and that he really does have my role. Especially because my/our role is very similar to the role that Cape and Pyxxy both had, in both name (it's a nationality of townie much like theirs is kiwi] and it's function being that 2 or more people need to vote me for me to activate a vigilante shot. I can also tell you that because of my role I can see a joke in the Pyxxy and Cape roles that you guys probably can't see lol.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:06 amThanks for letting it go, and I forget the mech you have on him but I am gonna let you slide like you're letting me slide.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:57 am As far as town players go, Guillo is probably the person who will tilt someone into scumreading him on their first experience with him more predictably than anyone.
You might be right, but like... did you not read the part about me maybe having mech here?
I think I am just always right here. Because like, based on there being two Kiwi Townie, there is almost certainly another version of me too, and Guillo literally claimed the role at one point lol.
Guillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:59 pmThen you are mafia because i am this.MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:58 pmof courseGuillotine wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:58 pmYou hard claim this?MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 9:55 pm btw I don't really check ppl who vote me I shoot one of them and it's a compulsive action so unless you want to die don't vote me and also force the entire poe to vote me every day lol
[VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine
This is not an FPS
Nah like, not everything is doubled. If you look at Pyxxy and Cape you will see that they are similar to me but slightly different. Guillo said he's my exact role and accused me of being scum from it. It's a weird thing for a mafia to do at any rate but it really just makes it incredibly obvious that he has the same role as me in hindsight and I should have realised it sooner.
Bruh, Pyxxy and Cape ... Kiwi Townie - Need 2 votes to blah blah blah. Me ... [redacted] Townie - Need 2 votes to blah blah blah.
I am very confident you’re not a wolf. Just trying to work out if he thought you were wolf for claiming that role *because* he was wolf.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:28 amNah like, not everything is doubled. If you look at Pyxxy and Cape you will see that they are similar to me but slightly different. Guillo said he's my exact role and accused me of being scum from it. It's a weird thing for a mafia to do at any rate but it really just makes it incredibly obvious that he has the same role as me in hindsight and I should have realised it sooner.
Like, this is just always correct Guillo is essentially clear unless you think I'm a wolf.
yeah, but I can see nanook being a bastard and rolling mafia and rolls differently (not a bastard game) BUT that is just me being paranoid and now that you remind me of that. It did seem very townyMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:19 amEssentially Guillo freaked out and hard counterclaimed me for having his role. When he realised that there were two flipped town with the same role he immediately dropped it and pretended that he was testing me lol. I believe he wasn't testing me, and that he really does have my role. Especially because my/our role is very similar to the role that Cape and Pyxxy both had, in both name (it's a nationality of townie much like theirs is kiwi] and it's function being that 2 or more people need to vote me for me to activate a vigilante shot. I can also tell you that because of my role I can see a joke in the Pyxxy and Cape roles that you guys probably can't see lol.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:06 amThanks for letting it go, and I forget the mech you have on him but I am gonna let you slide like you're letting me slide.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:57 am As far as town players go, Guillo is probably the person who will tilt someone into scumreading him on their first experience with him more predictably than anyone.
You might be right, but like... did you not read the part about me maybe having mech here?
I think I am just always right here. Because like, based on there being two Kiwi Townie, there is almost certainly another version of me too, and Guillo literally claimed the role at one point lol.
no that was speculationMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:34 am That Marmot read reads like an actual opinion not speculation. Are you townreading Marmot now?
Master Radishes the confirmed flipped mafia voted for Marmot in a CFD which was a counterwagon to a confirmed flipped mafia named Seanzie.S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:33 am I have heard people say bastard game, but what exactly is that? The host throws in a secret twist?
I always thought the point of a vig is to kill baddies, not sort out possible town. We've had two baddies vigged this game; this is like an extra chop round. I know this makes me look hopelessly old fashioned and I don't care
And I am gonna put in my vote for @Dyslexicon to vig Marmot.
They are the person I most find bad, they keep wiggling their way out of it. I think being a fruit vendor is a good, innocuous role to hide behind. I think their interactions with Sabi were super sketch, and I think they slipped up when comparing Neons game here to her bad game in Holes, which led me to compare Marmot here to Holes, and yeah, not the same Marmot.
hi mac - no its not a lieMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:34 am You are a hydra, in the game of champions, comprised of a group of players that didn't win a game in 2022, which is the prerequisite to entry into the game, with the name Party Crasher, and you have a bulletproof vest and you're town?
This is your story, and at least some part of it is a lie. I refuse to believe the above to be a truthful statement.
my objective is to troll everyone every game mac but. IM TELLING THE TRUTH NOW I SWEARMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:40 am the fact that three of you die the first time you die and the rest don't reads plainly like you're Nanook's version of the NPC role from secret playerlist mafia, which if you are your objective in this game is literally to troll us, so you can come right out and just say it lol
You think baddies don't vote for each other? And when two wagons are both bad, and it would look awful for a baddie not to vote on one of them? Maybe the Mafia felt Seanzie was worth a ballsy save attempt as he had a kill and Marmot was a fruit vendor. It reduces the ODDS that they are bad, but it doesn't *clear* them. The only thing that clears anyone is a flip. Voting for or against someone doesn't clear someone. And I'm surprised you think it does.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:35 amMaster Radishes the confirmed flipped mafia voted for Marmot in a CFD which was a counterwagon to a confirmed flipped mafia named Seanzie.S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:33 am I have heard people say bastard game, but what exactly is that? The host throws in a secret twist?
I always thought the point of a vig is to kill baddies, not sort out possible town. We've had two baddies vigged this game; this is like an extra chop round. I know this makes me look hopelessly old fashioned and I don't care
And I am gonna put in my vote for @Dyslexicon to vig Marmot.
They are the person I most find bad, they keep wiggling their way out of it. I think being a fruit vendor is a good, innocuous role to hide behind. I think their interactions with Sabi were super sketch, and I think they slipped up when comparing Neons game here to her bad game in Holes, which led me to compare Marmot here to Holes, and yeah, not the same Marmot.
Explain how he is not confirmed town via this?
You have your theories and reasons for things, so do I. And I specifically asked if fruit vendors are ever bad, and was told they could be either alignment. It's a jolly place for a baddie to hide, and they sent Nutella a "magical item", I assume a tree lol. Maybe specifically to get her on their side?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:05 am Marmot is a fruit vendor. Confirmed. Not a threat even if a mafia.
Nutella would probably have the best Marmot read of anyone I know, shielded him.
Master Radishes tried to CFD him over mafia KP.
He also has really good Seanzie interactions.
I understand that mafia vote mafia, but ... if you just hand wave away all of the above like "well he could still be mafia" I'll be pretty disappointed cuz it just seems like tunneling at this point from you.
Twas I that surfaced the Sabi interactions so yes I am aware of them, and I still think he has more going for him that he does not, but sure you do you.S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:15 amYou have your theories and reasons for things, so do I. And I specifically asked if fruit vendors are ever bad, and was told they could be either alignment. It's a jolly place for a baddie to hide, and they sent Nutella a "magical item", I assume a tree lol. Maybe specifically to get her on their side?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:05 am Marmot is a fruit vendor. Confirmed. Not a threat even if a mafia.
Nutella would probably have the best Marmot read of anyone I know, shielded him.
Master Radishes tried to CFD him over mafia KP.
He also has really good Seanzie interactions.
I understand that mafia vote mafia, but ... if you just hand wave away all of the above like "well he could still be mafia" I'll be pretty disappointed cuz it just seems like tunneling at this point from you.
And yes, Radishes joined a CFD against them to try to save a HP. Hrm, fruit vendor vs HP? Marmot was prolly the most viable wagon at the time.
And they may have really good Seanzie interactions, but they have awful Sabi interactions.
I know you are a strong player, and tend to think your way is the way, but so am I and so do I.
Maybe it is tunnelling, but I still think they're bad. His posts the first few days are not town Marmot.
Gotta go get ready for work. Later.
.... I mean mine is tooParty Crasher wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:43 am update: ....
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um ....
i dont know how u guys will take this information ....
but we would survive getting chopped. once. like ... our protection extends to getting chopped. it just doesnt work in lylo
my objective is to troll everyone every game mac but. IM TELLING THE TRUTH NOW I SWEARMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:40 am the fact that three of you die the first time you die and the rest don't reads plainly like you're Nanook's version of the NPC role from secret playerlist mafia, which if you are your objective in this game is literally to troll us, so you can come right out and just say it lol
-tutuu
Marmot is always town here and I will die on that hill.S~V~S wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:33 am I have heard people say bastard game, but what exactly is that? The host throws in a secret twist?
I always thought the point of a vig is to kill baddies, not sort out possible town. We've had two baddies vigged this game; this is like an extra chop round. I know this makes me look hopelessly old fashioned and I don't care
And I am gonna put in my vote for @Dyslexicon to vig Marmot.
They are the person I most find bad, they keep wiggling their way out of it. I think being a fruit vendor is a good, innocuous role to hide behind. I think their interactions with Sabi were super sketch, and I think they slipped up when comparing Neons game here to her bad game in Holes, which led me to compare Marmot here to Holes, and yeah, not the same Marmot.
Neon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:23 pmOnly cause I like youRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:14 pmnice job!
Can you do me a solid and grab all the votes from d1/2 like wilgy did (you have it quoted, I just want to make sure its ALL the vote) and update it with the MR flip colour for me? I would but I dont have the time atm
Cape90 ( 16 ): Seanzie, S~V~S, sig, Golden, Inawordyes, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Le petit poussin, Kate, nutella, Marmot, Urist, Alison, EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Michelle
Inawordyes ( 8 ): Scotty, DrWilgy, 112, Sloonei, Master Radishes, Lilypetal, Sabiplz, Cape90
Dennis ( 3 ): Guillotine, Neon, falcon45ca
MacDougall ( 3 ): RondoDimBuckle, Porscha, Dennis
Creature ( 2 ): pyxxy, Creature
Guillotine ( 1 ): TonyStarkPrime
Party Crasher ( 1 ): hollowkatt
pyxxy ( 1 ): ilario
not voting ( shrug emoji ): idk lol I think nobody
Seanzie ( 10 ): Marmot, falcon45ca, nutella, Neon, Party Crasher, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha, Kate
RondoDimBuckle ( 6 ): Urist, Sloonei, Creature, EnderWiggin, 112, Seanzie
Marmot ( 4 ): MacDougall, Master Radishes, RondoDimBuckle, Scotty
S~V~S ( 2 ): sig, Golden
Scotty ( 2 ): hollowkatt, Michelle
Golden ( 1 ): Guillotine
MacDougall ( 1 ): S~V~S
sig ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( idk hopefully none of you lol ): shrug emoji
Assuming I didn't fuck anything up redoing this
I think it would depend on how many more wolves there, but given that the three primary wagons on Day 1 were town, the wolves probably didn't have incentive to push any of them in particular.falcon45ca wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:30 pmThere's gotta be at least 1 more Maf on Cape I'd thinkNeon wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:23 pmOnly cause I like youRondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 9:14 pmnice job!
Can you do me a solid and grab all the votes from d1/2 like wilgy did (you have it quoted, I just want to make sure its ALL the vote) and update it with the MR flip colour for me? I would but I dont have the time atm
Cape90 ( 16 ): Seanzie, S~V~S, sig, Golden, Inawordyes, Party Crasher, MacDougall, Le petit poussin, Kate, nutella, Marmot, Urist, Alison, EnderWiggin, Dyslexicon, Michelle
Inawordyes ( 8 ): Scotty, DrWilgy, 112, Sloonei, Master Radishes, Lilypetal, Sabiplz, Cape90
Dennis ( 3 ): Guillotine, Neon, falcon45ca
MacDougall ( 3 ): RondoDimBuckle, Porscha, Dennis
Creature ( 2 ): pyxxy, Creature
Guillotine ( 1 ): TonyStarkPrime
Party Crasher ( 1 ): hollowkatt
pyxxy ( 1 ): ilario
not voting ( shrug emoji ): idk lol I think nobody
Seanzie ( 10 ): Marmot, falcon45ca, nutella, Neon, Party Crasher, Alison, Dyslexicon, Lilypetal, Porscha, Kate
RondoDimBuckle ( 6 ): Urist, Sloonei, Creature, EnderWiggin, 112, Seanzie
Marmot ( 4 ): MacDougall, Master Radishes, RondoDimBuckle, Scotty
S~V~S ( 2 ): sig, Golden
Scotty ( 2 ): hollowkatt, Michelle
Golden ( 1 ): Guillotine
MacDougall ( 1 ): S~V~S
sig ( 1 ): DrWilgy
not voting ( idk hopefully none of you lol ): shrug emoji
Assuming I didn't fuck anything up redoing this
Yeah no, that was my read on it at the time and I said nothing because I didnt want to draw more attention to it and I cant believe I completely forgot it. Its been a big game. I dont want to clear him fully because I am me but its a good indicator. Which makes me unhappy because it narrows the pool closer to urist and I kinda need to believe he is town atm. Short of you being a snowing mafiadon I think I can trust your read on Guillo. But then there are those weird fuckin interactions with me that make me want to yeet himMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:19 amEssentially Guillo freaked out and hard counterclaimed me for having his role. When he realised that there were two flipped town with the same role he immediately dropped it and pretended that he was testing me lol. I believe he wasn't testing me, and that he really does have my role. Especially because my/our role is very similar to the role that Cape and Pyxxy both had, in both name (it's a nationality of townie much like theirs is kiwi] and it's function being that 2 or more people need to vote me for me to activate a vigilante shot. I can also tell you that because of my role I can see a joke in the Pyxxy and Cape roles that you guys probably can't see lol.RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:06 amThanks for letting it go, and I forget the mech you have on him but I am gonna let you slide like you're letting me slide.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 5:57 am As far as town players go, Guillo is probably the person who will tilt someone into scumreading him on their first experience with him more predictably than anyone.
You might be right, but like... did you not read the part about me maybe having mech here?
I think I am just always right here. Because like, based on there being two Kiwi Townie, there is almost certainly another version of me too, and Guillo literally claimed the role at one point lol.
If Alison didn't kill pyxxy, this might've been how he died.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:07 pm Creature:**American Townie:**
You're a vanilla town, but with a gun. A gun that you have to use. Why else would you have a gun, if not to use it? That would be silly. Anyways, if you receive more than one vote during the day, the following night you MUST shoot someone who voted for you. Only eod votes are counted for the purposes of this role.
Example: on D2 you are voted by fingers, sabie, and nanook. On n2 you must choose to shoot one of those three.
yeah he was about ready to thunderdome you on day 1, that is anti mafia wincon. {REDACTED THIS WHOLE PART BECAUSE ITS JUST FUCKIN MADE OF FOIL}MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:28 amNah like, not everything is doubled. If you look at Pyxxy and Cape you will see that they are similar to me but slightly different. Guillo said he's my exact role and accused me of being scum from it. It's a weird thing for a mafia to do at any rate but it really just makes it incredibly obvious that he has the same role as me in hindsight and I should have realised it sooner.
Like, this is just always correct Guillo is essentially clear unless you think I'm a wolf.
oh look, its my hidden tinfoilGolden wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:31 amI am very confident you’re not a wolf. Just trying to work out if he thought you were wolf for claiming that role *because* he was wolf.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:28 amNah like, not everything is doubled. If you look at Pyxxy and Cape you will see that they are similar to me but slightly different. Guillo said he's my exact role and accused me of being scum from it. It's a weird thing for a mafia to do at any rate but it really just makes it incredibly obvious that he has the same role as me in hindsight and I should have realised it sooner.
Like, this is just always correct Guillo is essentially clear unless you think I'm a wolf.
But I agree that specific reaction post (which I think I missed at the time) feels town.
Whelp.
so the shot is on HK right? Any arguments against?Neon wrote: ↑Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:35 am Based not only on my own experiences with Guillo but on mac vouching so hard for Guillo I 100% Mac is right here.
Town Guillo would always CC Mac's claim if he thought it was impossible for Mac to have the same role as him. I've never played with scum Guillo but I've had Guillo talk many times about his scum game and I simply do not think scum Guillo ever tries to CC Mac unless he is a wolf with the same role and not aligned with Mac but I do think it is entirely more likely Guillo is town
I'm glad Mac brought this back up.
I am also 100% certain that if HK is a evil in any form guillo is never aligned with HK.
I KNOW my role doesnt have a duplicate at this point. I have claimed like 20 different roles too which is hilarious so I dont think anyone really knows what my role is
I dont know if you have noticed but I have pulled away from my ender read a bit. I know for [REDACTED] reasons him being off for the past few days is NAI and I encourage people to give him a bit of slack. BUT I havent seen any town notes from him after he backed off me being wolf
I'm looking through MR posts for potential spew.S~V~S wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 7:15 pmThis feels more like flailing to me, but you do you.Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 23, 2023 6:55 pmMaster Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:51 pm Are SVS and Scotty viable wagons? I don't intend to delve into anyone more than I need to right now.
Although like maybe I could offer thoughts on my fellow Canuckleheads or something but they don't seem relevant atm.MR didn't follow up on these posts, so it wouldn't surprise me if at least one of Scotty/SVS was a wolf.
Who is even in the POE right now with Radishes gone?
Hi cutie <3