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Starting early I see, I wonder if that will make you a friend or a foe. Pottermore has put me in Gryffindor or Slytherin in the past, but I Googled Hufflepuff. I might be a Hufflepuff in actuality, but I'm really unsure. I personally enjoy the Prisoner of Azkaban PC game.
hi housemate!!! *Owner watches ASMR video to prep for this house*Glorfindel wrote: ↑Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:27 pm Greetings, my friends! I know very little about Harry Potter - never read the books, seem some but not all of the movies. That said, I only wanted to be in one ‘house’ and as luck would have it, it’s the one I got!
Hi, it's good to play with you again, though I'm still suspicious of you.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:28 pm
It's relatively late, my sleep schedule is fucked, and I win games when I troll you and refuse to add anything of value to discussion.
2/3 of those things means I'll dig my heels in and do some rock-squeezing tomorrow.
In the Firefly game we played together, I was suspicious of him the whole game. I just couldn't bring myself to trust him sadly. We were actually on the same side though. Rip.Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:54 pm"Still?"Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:52 pmHi, it's good to play with you again, though I'm still suspicious of you.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:28 pm
It's relatively late, my sleep schedule is fucked, and I win games when I troll you and refuse to add anything of value to discussion.
2/3 of those things means I'll dig my heels in and do some rock-squeezing tomorrow.
[VOTE: DharmaHelper] aubergine
I thought you were done for the day. What changed your mind?
I have my reasons, or it could be DH just reads scummy each game. (that could be a thing; I would need to have played more games with him to test this theory).
So you are chalking up any potential future badly typed posts "oh I'm tired" or "basically you are downplaying your ability"?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:02 pm
I didn't say I was done for the day, I said I'm tired and I don't think I'd be able to dig into the thread productively.
I respect you, but that doesn't mean I'll stop being critical of you.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:08 pm I'm starting to think Owner of a Lonely Heart just doesn't like me very much which I'm not sure how to take.
By saying that you were tired, you excused yourself from the thread and haven't been posting here, until I voted for you and started talking.
JJJ seems alright. I want to look at Quin. Epi is null. Speedy, I'm slightly worried about.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:19 pmSeems like you're constantly and exclusively critical of me, but hell I've got pretty thick skin I'll be fine. Anyway good luck with that I guess.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:11 pm
I respect you, but that doesn't mean I'll stop being critical of you.
You did. You felt it necessary to tell JJJ that you weren't a full strength, but that's potentially null. If you're scum and Epi is town, then this question would be to find out where Epi stands on you. So far, these two things could support scum motivations.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:21 pm
Before you got here and after I told Jay that I'd do more serious and focused work on the thread tomorrow, I asked Epi if he meant that I was a filer position on his list of suspects or if he mean that I was on his list of suspects because I'd been posting "filler".
I can't tell if you are trying to appeal to emotion or if this is a joke.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:24 pm Owner if you just admit you hate me I'll be cool with it, seriously its fine I've been through much worse mafia-relationships before.
A lot of his posts read scummy to me. Maybe, he'll improve tomorrow, but so far, I don't see it.
Hmm. You really aren't helping your case. But then again, I can be pretty annoying too.
That's just one possible world. It's kind of light right now.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:37 pmi don't understand what you're talking about. I told Jay I'd get to the meat of things tomorrow, and I asked Epi for clarification on his "filler" remark. Where's that track to "if you're scum and Epi is town" territory?Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:27 pmYou did. You felt it necessary to tell JJJ that you weren't a full strength, but that's potentially null. If you're scum and Epi is town, then this question would be to find out where Epi stands on you. So far, these two things could support scum motivations.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:21 pm
Before you got here and after I told Jay that I'd do more serious and focused work on the thread tomorrow, I asked Epi if he meant that I was a filer position on his list of suspects or if he mean that I was on his list of suspects because I'd been posting "filler".
IDK Fam you do you.
I want to say I was back and forth on you on day 2 that game, but I don't know if I voiced this opinion or not. I thought I did. *takes slight offense at calling me a liar*DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:39 pmI dunno out of everything you've said I take this as the biggest lie. I don't recall you ever even almost reading me as town in Firefly for one thing and for another it's barely D1 and your reasons for "scum" reading me are convoluted and backwards.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:31 pm So far DH, I haven't seen anything that screams town from you. Cause, in Firefly, you did do some townie things that almost made me read you correctly.
This post here is very different from the last game. Those statements don't contradict each other. I struggled to trust you in the Firefly game, and in this game, you feel different from the Firefly game.
I haven't said all the reasons. And am I not allowed to start this early? It shouldn't matter of how early or late in the game it is.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:39 pm
I dunno out of everything you've said I take this as the biggest lie. I don't recall you ever even almost reading me as town in Firefly for one thing and for another it's barely D1 and your reasons for "scum" reading me are convoluted and backwards.
Yay!! You actually understood me. That is correct.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:49 pm I feel different than I did in the game you scum read me, but you scum read me in this game as well.
You sound angry. Are you going to be okay?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:51 pm
"its barely D1" meaning "Get off my jock about not participating or excusing myself from the thread or w/e"
Okay, if you're sure,DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:58 pmI'm fine. If I get angry you'll recognize it.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:55 pmYou sound angry. Are you going to be okay?DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Oct 28, 2018 11:51 pm
"its barely D1" meaning "Get off my jock about not participating or excusing myself from the thread or w/e"
I wouldn't want to have been able to get you riled up that easily. 
You knowing the intricacies of the Dark Arts stuff and sharing it could be an act to try to buy townie points. I remember reading the stuff about it but not nearly picking up enough about it to understand it all. Basically, if someone had or possessed Dark Arts abilities this game, they would probably read up on it or make sure they understood their abilities.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:04 amwhat about me, owner? Give DH a break and flag me for a bit.
I would say I play like chess but think like go.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 9:29 am I've had btsc with epi and juliets before, that was definitely a conversation that would have been had in btsc instead of the thread. That's why epi pointed it out.
@Owner of a Lonely Heart if you suspect DH I suggest giving him a lil rope to hang himself with instead of attacking his every move. Mafia is more like chess and less like tag imo
So that's a null tell then, *puts speedy in null pile* hmmspeedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:13 am
I know about the Deathly Hallows. I haven't explained anything about the Dark Arts to anyone.
Though I would if they asked, even if it required looking it up myself. That's a consistent thing I do, regardless of alignment.
That's kind of great lols.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:13 amOh, and I went to bed like immediately.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:25 am Me: *Talks to speedy*
Speedy: *is frozen or typing a freakishly long post*...or idk
Me: What? He wanted me to talk to him. Is that a bad thing? Hmmm
I think I associate Dark Arts with Deathly Hallows as they are relatively both dark things. Or in my mind, both relate to the one who isn't to be named. The Deathly Hallows wouldn't exist without the dark arts I think.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:14 amOk I'll walk you though it, because I love you.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:05 am=.=DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:03 amNo I mean did she scumslip. They're two completely different things. One of them you were talking about, the other one you weren't.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:02 amI don't know how that would be a slip. They're two completely different things.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:00 am Did Owner slip when she conflated Dark Arts and Deathly Hallows mechanics?
... unless you meant townslip.
Yeah I don't get it.
Here you explain the Deathly Hallows mechanic. Which, since they're all locked behind secrets, the basic gist is "You get one if you kill the guys that have them or if you're the last vote on the guys that have one"
Here Owner says "Dark Arts" and not "Deathly Hallows". Her exact quote will be helpful in understanding my thought process so here:
"The intricacies of" - What's intricate about [SECRET] and "Keep what you kill"Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:12 amYou knowing the intricacies of the Dark Arts stuff and sharing it could be an act to try to buy townie points. I remember reading the stuff about it but not nearly picking up enough about it to understand it all. Basically, if someone had or possessed Dark Arts abilities this game, they would probably read up on it or make sure they understood their abilities.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:04 am
Technically, what you said is some form of mechanical-talk or a retelling of information, in which some of it is free to us. But it doesn't necessarily solve us the game or anything.
It's potenitally the kind of post meant to look like a person is being useful, but in reality, they aren't truly really adding to the thread.
"The Dark Arts Stuff" - if you've got Dark Arts on the mind and someone says Deathly Hallows, you might confuse the two. Freudian Slippage.
"I remember reading the stuff about it but not nearly picking up enough...." - [Secrets] and "Keep what you kill" doesn't strike me as hard to retain.
IDK thinking out loud, the best indicator of an actual slip here is conflating "Dark Arts" with "Deathly Hallows" because she had "Dark Arts" on the mind.
I did comment on speedychuck though, but he didn't plan on sticking around.Turnip Head wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:27 am I could get behind the Freudian slip angle, especially since speedchuck asked her to comment on him so she may have been off guard when responding.
I wish I had meta on you. I can read this post both ways, but part me, kind of wants to read you town for it. Could Glorfindel be with jay? Or enjoys playing with friends thing?Quin wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:15 amSure. On that same basis, if he's bad, I'd much prefer him dead. How do you think he'll reveal himself? Do you have any scum-3J tells to share?Glorfindel wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 7:37 amI’m not sure what you mean by this remark, Quin? My personal view is that Jay is a fellow of superior intellect and capable of analysis far beyond that of mere mortals. On that basis, if he’s Town, I’d much prefer him on our side. If by some fluke he’s bad, he’ll reveal himself later down the track. I think he’s far more useful to us alive.
If you were by some chance referring to my last game here with Golden, I’ll confess - I do so wish he was playing this game. It would make my decision here infinitely easier.
I think there's a recurring theme when you play mafia where you prefer not to lynch the people you get along well with. That's normal, I'm not trying to tell you off or anything. But at the same time I think you need to be more mindful that we only get so much time in a game and we can't spend it protecting the people we like.
Or maybe I'm completely wrong about you.
Putting his usefulness if he's a civilian aside, do you actually think he is a civilian?
I didn't read the books and only saw the final movies once. How much do you retain on your first viewing of a movie?speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:58 amOwner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:29 am Or in my mind, both relate to the one who isn't to be named. The Deathly Hallows wouldn't exist without the dark arts I think.I didn't read this book.
Feel like you're trying to overexplain here. Why else would you make up that connection? The Deathly Hallows have nothing to do with Voldy, nor were they created using Dark Arts. Nor are they used with Dark Arts.
Could you walk me through how this makes sense to you?karavalenge wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:05 pm
This really looks like Owner both is scum and has a Deathly Hallow and got mixed up cause it was altogether in their role card.
It's also possible that they're just confused because the ruleset is really confusing.
Only once, if memory serves, I assume DH hasn't played elsewhere or played under another name.timmer wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:42 pm A bit more, befor I have to run. I'm liking the chatter for q day 1. Day 1 has always been weak for me, so im glad some players are so good at getting it going.
I asked Owner if he's played with DH before, don't think he answered? If I did, owner, please shoot out.
Sadly, I can read this post both ways. Slight town maybe if I try to not be paranoid. I guess I'm debating if you would question others about how to read me or if you would just come to a conclusion yourself.timmer wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:52 pm Okay, so reading owner's iso, I'd say he really and oddly blindered onto DH very early, and for what seems like entirely prev-game reasons. This allows him to talk a lot about suspicions towards sh, but without having to defend anything he says because, hey, is based on last game. And when pressed about it, he just versions of iunno I just feel it...
This can be a baddie move, but it can also just be blindering which ive done in the past. Those who know owner well, do you get any kind of alignment read from this angle?
I played the Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban PC game a bunch. I have probably seen the first 5 movies the most. What I remember from the movies 6 and up, take with a grain of salt. If memory serves, I watched the Deathly Hollows thing back to back.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:44 pm
lol I retained almost nothing of the HP movies. Thanks for clarifying.
Depends on the movie though.
I kind of do this, but usually, I have some reasoning for the reads I give, even if I don't say it. Mostly, I have the coffee/excuse tell. And the mind meld tells to go by.speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:51 pmIt's new to everyone.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:44 pm Also, what's a Player Salad? This terminology is new to me.
A few games ago, we found a new scumtell. Scum players, in order to look productive, throw out some reads on other players. Not everyone, but also nobody specific. Nothing substantial, and little to follow up on. Just some light poking at some of the names in the thread, in a way that looks like it's generating content.
Something similar to that. I haven't seen it defined that well, but we've caught scum with it.
The smattering of player reads without substance was coined as 'player salad' by someone.
It's not a regression. It is potentially a meta thing.insertnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:06 pm Alright, I'm now caught up.
Most of the Day so far has just been two different squabbles over semantics. The whole Epi-Juliets thing has been more or less baffling in its scattershot legitimacy. It's the kind of thing that JJJ usually pushes, except with less actual substance, which makes me a tad sus of JJJ. Then there's the whole Owner/DH thing. It definitely feels like Owner is stuck replaying Firefly, while the rest of us are playing a new game. This regression could be scummy or not, depends on what else Owner decides to bring to the table. So far, I ain't impressed.
Probably not on DH cause I'm stubborn, but I am trying to take some leaps in faith elsewhere. I would probably need to do a meta dive in past scum DH game to change my mind. Luna and Colin, I might listen to, but I like having proof.insertnamehere wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:04 pm
Would you trust other people who have played with DH over a ton of games and have seen him as both scum and civ if they were to tell you that you were barking up the wrong tree with your meta characterization of him?
Meta means more than interesting does though.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:04 pm Thank you Owner for proving more thoroughly than I have ever been able to do that "meta" is a made up buzzword that means nothing and is nothing.
Sadly, I don't know how best to read you. And I might have played the most games with you.
Less pictures of Negan might be a sign, but it could just be a personality clash.DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:40 amAdding this to the awesome book I'm writing about how garbo Meta is.Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue Oct 30, 2018 11:36 am poutanko's emotes do not fall under the picture tell. The emotes are probably from NF. The picture tell is mostly of pictures and music. I'm surprised Negan nearly didn't show up at all this game.
