The Syndicate

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:59 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:55 pm i voted "will you become more" because it's either a rhetorical question with a motivating connotation or a question as to whether i'm going to get super fat this christmas in which case the answer is yes

Town.

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:16 pm

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:15 pm

LoRab wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:27 am Can I suggest that we change the vote word from aubergine to something that is not one of the role names? I mean, if the point is to be easily searched, then it seems to me it would make it easier if it were a word that isn't likely to come up. Also, lol to the hosts for putting that in there.

This aubergine thing sounds silly. Why is there a need to have a vote word?

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:29 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:19 pm Keep an eye on the folks who darted in here early and, in light of the D0 poll result, pooh-poohed ties on the lynch poll. It’s a subtle way to establish a preemptive cop-out for either train-hopping later (to show they stick to their convictions) or blame-shifting to set up fall guys who tie polls that result in mislynches.

Close lynches and ties (whether mid-phase or at EOD) are valuable sources of information. Granted, that information is best in hindsight after the herd has thinned some.

We may not know who is on the Tribunal but we’re starting out with more civs than baddies (unless this game is extra-double whacky) and there are also two baddie factions, so the odds are against Tribunal being filled with one baddie team.

This post is an amazing piece of wisdom and logic that doesn't acrually do any scumhuting.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:55 pm Has anyone seen Quin? At this point I'd expect to see him angrily hissing at the people accusing him.

timmer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:04 pm I hate Day 1. I don't know how you guys do it. I hate so much the voting and trying to make cases based on so little that Day 1's just make me twitchy. As of this moment, I am mostly on the lookout for people who seem to eager to make something out of nothing. Luna's vote fits the bill, for instance.

timmer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:17 pm Actually, to be more clear, Luna's vote seems fine. I was trying to reference this POST of hers: "Sorry, but that is not a god reason to vote someone. Anything Jack has done this game to make you suspect him?"

I don't like when people try to make big deals out of anyone's day 1 vote, because frankly, to me they ALL are weak votes. Why call one specific one out?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:10 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:07 am I've added another town read to my list.

I have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin, but am I little anxious about the ease with which his case gained momentum. His post about bandwagonining DDL is patented shady-nasty business, but I don't know how to feel about the seemingly exaggerated scrutiny it's received. Then again, there's also the fact that we have two scum teams. It's entirely possible for scum to pile on an easy bandwagon that ends up being correct. I'd like for Colin to say things. I'll lay out my own gripes against them so he has more variety to respond to. I was voting for Colin before it was cool, after all.

What mafia member says, "You know what? I'm going to plop a lazy third vote down on DDL early on in the day and draw attention to myself! That's a great idea!"

Lock civilian.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:31 am

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:25 amwtf im hurt

When you say someone has no peers it means they are excellent. It's a complement mate.

S~V~S wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:52 am Woke up in the middle of the night can't sleep grabbed my phone and read the last page,

Sloonie and Nutella sitting in a tree, k.

That is all goodnight.

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:31 pm I thought I saw an epig vote mixed in there, maybe I misread?

I guess what I'm stuck on is... why not leave your vote on sig, who you seem pretty strong on, relative to it being day 1, WHILE you talk up other candidates?
Don't you weaken your own ideas by removing your vote from your #1 guy? You and me both know that a number of people will show up in the last few hours and vote with little thought, and they will do so using the current votes as a sort of weaksauce guide.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:42 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:31 pm I thought I saw an epig vote mixed in there, maybe I misread?

I guess what I'm stuck on is... why not leave your vote on sig, who you seem pretty strong on, relative to it being day 1, WHILE you talk up other candidates?
Don't you weaken your own ideas by removing your vote from your #1 guy? You and me both know that a number of people will show up in the last few hours and vote with little thought, and they will do so using the current votes as a sort of weaksauce guide.

I joked about voting for epi because he said I smell.

And I'm usually just loose with my vote. I move it around based on where I want the conversation to go. I've been yelling about sig for a while and it's become clear that a number of people, whose opinions I trust and appreciate, don't feel the same way that I do. In light of that, I think it's more productive to turn my attention elsewhere. My stance on sig is out there if anyone wants to pick it back up (and he promised to return later, so I'm sure it will). But in the meantime, I'd rather focus on developing other reads.

I'm leaving now, for real this time. If I had spent 1/4 of the time I've been in here on my paper today I'd be done with schoolwork for the semester.

linki: thank you quin. listen to quin. he knows my deal.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:05 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:51 pm i went to read back and noticed everyone was hankering for a sig lynch and let me tell you if you do it then i'm quitting mafia forever

i mean if there's more than the use of 'bloodthirsty' when describing SVS as the case against him then be my guest but what i've read makes me want to throw up

Make it 2

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:16 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:59 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:30 pm My valid suspicion of Colin shows that day one can contain valid suspicions.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:07 amI have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin

My question is for Epignosis, is the first quote suss?

No.

Double-standards, and what not, but I don't care.

Women write differently than men.

nutella wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:19 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:24 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:16 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 10:59 am

Lunalee wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 8:30 pm My valid suspicion of Colin shows that day one can contain valid suspicions.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:07 amI have a genuine Day 1 suspicion of Colin

My question is for Epignosis, is the first quote suss?

No.

Double-standards, and what not, but I don't care.

Women write differently than men.

Epi is bad for not checking the context behind why Luna was using the word valid.
Or Turnip is bad for posing the question without checking the context behind why Luna was using the word valid.

got em

I don't follow pls explain

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:27 am

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:26 am Oh god no now I want to vote Sloonei just because of this stupid "posts too much to be mafia" didn't we disprove that already with JJJ

The worst part is that he waited for someone else to make the case for him before he raised it as a defence.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:30 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:30 am Can all of the people who are talking about not voting for me please put votes on the poll so I can calm down?

im gonna put mine on you for a placeholder now
[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:34 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:33 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:32 am Hahahaha holy shit...

CFD Wolbre?

Do it bitch

This is... actually extremely Mafia sounding lol.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:37 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:34 am

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:33 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:32 am Hahahaha holy shit...

CFD Wolbre?

Do it bitch

This is... actually extremely Mafia sounding lol.

wolbre04 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:41 am I always self destruct under pressure look back at the Peloponnesian war mafia game where I was town

Dana wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:43 am I'm gonna [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine because I trust him the most and I am always wrong.

colonialbob wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:52 am People: "wilgy is a bad vote for people scared to be held responsible"

Also people: "nah let's not vote for anybody on his wagon"

Lunalee wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:55 am Wilgy on the other hand, has said nothing that looks lock-town.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:06 am I generally disapprove of the entire lynch proceedings that just unfolded.

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:03 pm Voted Auriel Unmysterium.

I caught up on the EoD posts while at work. I don't regret my Wilgy vote.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:43 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:37 pm

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:03 pm Voted Auriel Unmysterium.

I caught up on the EoD posts while at work. I don't regret my Wilgy vote.

talking about regret when talking about voting a player who hasn't flipped yet

preemptive defence because tranq knows wilgy is town

got em

except there's two scum teams SHIT

I think you got that backwards, he said he didn't regret it

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:49 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:44 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:43 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:37 pm

Tranq wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 7:03 pm Voted Auriel Unmysterium.

I caught up on the EoD posts while at work. I don't regret my Wilgy vote.

talking about regret when talking about voting a player who hasn't flipped yet

preemptive defence because tranq knows wilgy is town

got em

except there's two scum teams SHIT

I think you got that backwards, he said he didn't regret it

it is the act of talking about "regret" not whether he did or did not regret it

regret indicates a bad outcome.

I don't follow. Saying he doesn't regret it implies he thinks wilgy is bad, no?

Dana wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:12 am

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:06 am

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:04 am

Kylemii wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:02 am ok so, 2 kills at night means....

mafia + sakana sashimi/savage pixie/trickster/dark worshipper?

is the general consensus that the trickster is probably a mafia role? it mentions some special rules/modifications involved in killing but doesn't mention specifically being able to kill on its own

I mean, TH's role is listed as "corrupted remnant", which may actually just be indie.

may it?

Yes, Sloonei's comment is very suspicious to me also.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:52 am Is that Quin I see? My god I think it is!

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:03 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:59 pm

Quin wrote: ↑Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:55 pm i voted "will you become more" because it's either a rhetorical question with a motivating connotation or a question as to whether i'm going to get super fat this christmas in which case the answer is yes

Town.

i won't be buddied this time, punk.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:59 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:29 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 2:19 pm Keep an eye on the folks who darted in here early and, in light of the D0 poll result, pooh-poohed ties on the lynch poll. It’s a subtle way to establish a preemptive cop-out for either train-hopping later (to show they stick to their convictions) or blame-shifting to set up fall guys who tie polls that result in mislynches.

Close lynches and ties (whether mid-phase or at EOD) are valuable sources of information. Granted, that information is best in hindsight after the herd has thinned some.

We may not know who is on the Tribunal but we’re starting out with more civs than baddies (unless this game is extra-double whacky) and there are also two baddie factions, so the odds are against Tribunal being filled with one baddie team.

This post is an amazing piece of wisdom and logic that doesn't acrually do any scumhuting.

yes

Supports DDL's critique of G-man. Noted

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:02 pm

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 5:55 pm Has anyone seen Quin? At this point I'd expect to see him angrily hissing at the people accusing him.

nobody is accusing me so i have nothing to do

THAT'S NOT TOWN QUIN. Also perhaps he's a baddie overcompensating for his general lack of scrutiny to this point. -1 townie point.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:04 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:04 pm I hate Day 1. I don't know how you guys do it. I hate so much the voting and trying to make cases based on so little that Day 1's just make me twitchy. As of this moment, I am mostly on the lookout for people who seem to eager to make something out of nothing. Luna's vote fits the bill, for instance.

no

Is Quin saying "no" to timmer's general stance on Day 1, or is Quin saying "no" to timmer's criticism of Luna? LET'S HEAR IT QUINNY QUIN QUIN.

Quin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 10:05 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:17 pm Actually, to be more clear, Luna's vote seems fine. I was trying to reference this POST of hers: "Sorry, but that is not a god reason to vote someone. Anything Jack has done this game to make you suspect him?"

I don't like when people try to make big deals out of anyone's day 1 vote, because frankly, to me they ALL are weak votes. Why call one specific one out?

because if you want someone lynched you need to make a case on them. that is how mafia works.

[VOTE: timmer] aubergine

A vote for timmer. I don't love this, it feels kind of forced.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:40 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:31 pm I thought I saw an epig vote mixed in there, maybe I misread?

I guess what I'm stuck on is... why not leave your vote on sig, who you seem pretty strong on, relative to it being day 1, WHILE you talk up other candidates?
Don't you weaken your own ideas by removing your vote from your #1 guy? You and me both know that a number of people will show up in the last few hours and vote with little thought, and they will do so using the current votes as a sort of weaksauce guide.

For Sloonei, this is a waste of town's greatest asset. Their vote. Sloonei throwing his vote around with varying degrees of seriousness is not something I think is scum indicative for him.

I'm not caught up but this has been "Quin sticks his nose where it doesn't belong and make a fool of himself doing so". Tune in next time.

Sounds like Turnip Head! caveat is that quin probably knows me better than anyone else in this game so if there's anyone i trust to read me accurately it's him, BUT! imma be wary of the buddy system.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:49 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:42 pm

timmer wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 7:31 pm I thought I saw an epig vote mixed in there, maybe I misread?

I guess what I'm stuck on is... why not leave your vote on sig, who you seem pretty strong on, relative to it being day 1, WHILE you talk up other candidates?
Don't you weaken your own ideas by removing your vote from your #1 guy? You and me both know that a number of people will show up in the last few hours and vote with little thought, and they will do so using the current votes as a sort of weaksauce guide.

I joked about voting for epi because he said I smell.

And I'm usually just loose with my vote. I move it around based on where I want the conversation to go. I've been yelling about sig for a while and it's become clear that a number of people, whose opinions I trust and appreciate, don't feel the same way that I do. In light of that, I think it's more productive to turn my attention elsewhere. My stance on sig is out there if anyone wants to pick it back up (and he promised to return later, so I'm sure it will). But in the meantime, I'd rather focus on developing other reads.

I'm leaving now, for real this time. If I had spent 1/4 of the time I've been in here on my paper today I'd be done with schoolwork for the semester.

linki: thank you quin. listen to quin. he knows my deal.

STOP BUDDYING ME

Right back atcha, slick.

Objects to sig suspicion on principle. I don't care for this general sentiment. If a player is genuinely suspicious, feel free to suspect them. I don't care what his reputation is.

Quin wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:02 pm actually no i want to vote for [VOTE: g-man] aubergine because ddl said super rad things about him

Okay. This is 5 hours before the deadline, for the record.

This exchange is vintage Quin, but I don't know if it tells me anything about his alignment.

Votes for wilgy to protect me a half hour before the deadline. Thanks.

Seems to be trying to develop his read on me. Cool, I guess.

Then he is one of the first to jump on the wolbre wagon. Scum Quin may not need to do that, but scum Quin also doesn't stand to lose much from it either. Both wagons were equally terrible.
I wanna note now that Quin seems to be generally supportive of me during the end of day phase and things were chaotic enough when he showed up that the votes could have gone just about anywhere. He never turned his attention to a candidate outside of the two main wagons. I was shouting about juliets all the while, but Quin never said a word. He's certainly not the only person who's guilty of this, but I point it out because he was one of my most vocal supporters at the time, along with Turnip Head, and yet neither of them ever really advocated for the case that I was trying to make. Am I being paranoid and unfair? Perhaps. But it's an idea that just struck me as I was reading Quin's posts and now it exists in the thread.

Quin wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:40 am hey here's an idea

if sloonei is bad for coordinating reads with temmie g-man, let's lynch g-man who some of us already have gripes with

He does want to push us over to G-man though. Or he gives it a limp suggestion, at least.

There's absolutely nothing here that screams "I AM TOWN QUIN" and this entire post history is compatible with clever, low-key scum Quin.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Dec 11, 2018 3:36 am Did Quin just accuse me of buddying after I called him a scum read?