The Syndicate

Checking in, but very quickly. Welcome to all the new folks, and hello again to all the familiar faces!

I originally voted "Space" because it's clearly the best option, but after reading Daisy's post, I have changed to "Cars" because it needs more votes. I would encourage the extra "Space" voters to also change. Unless you really want your cubicle decorated with extra votes during Day 1. It looks like we're going to have to read Daisy's posts very carefully in this game!

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:19 pm I understand the suspicion on indigo as their only post said they were going to read things carefully and then they haven't been here since.

No, I said it would be important to read Daisy's posts carefully. The hostess's posts. The lady who posts the rules and what not?

I also clearly said before the game started I wouldn't be here much. But I'll try my best to keep up with the thread and at least get my votes in. Working on that right now, but I'm hella busy with RL stuff and don't have much time to mafia these days.


Hella linki - posting then going back to continue catching up.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 6:53 pm I'd rather lynch Wilgy than Creature or sabie.

Oh poo, I had finally decided on sabie. That mis-quoting me sticks in my craw, it feels like hoping to build momentum with a nothing. Nutella's vote on me feels genuine at least.

Are you serious about Wilgy?

I was going to ask Jules too, but I don't have to as she just voted sabie.

I'm going to go ahead and get my vote on the board:

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine



Linki - posting, then reading

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:03 pm I'm also up for a CFD if we can gather 4-5 willing votes.

What do you have in mind?

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:04 pm Those of you that know me know how disheartening this is for me for this to happen to me again. I try so hard to participate and throw out ideas and get better and people just shut me down.

Awww, this makes me sad.

Let's keep talking, we have time still!!


Linki - post, then read

sabie12 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:06 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:04 pm I'm going to go ahead and get my vote on the board:

[VOTE: sabie] aubergine



Linki - posting, then reading

Matahari wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:01 pm Dr Wilgy doesn’t seem very serious about the game. But that’s all I see where he is concerned. Why is he a good vote?

You do realize the only reason I even looked at you as a suspect is because epi was trying to make a case on you. I was trying to understand where that was coming from.


Also I made the mistake of leading a mislynch on wilgy once because of his lack of caring and nonchalance

Epi was being Epi. I didn't believe his vote for a second, but sometimes seeing how other players react to some mud slinging can give you an indication on allignment

LINKI

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

Because I'm now paranoid about sabie, and also I realized I forgot to put my sabie vote on the poll.

Tossing mine last minute

[VOTE: Sokoth] aubergine


Oh, linki with Daisy LMAO

Creature wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:04 pm I think I expected this to be MafiaUniverse 2.0 and found out I was wrong the hardest way.

Now that I'm shaking off the adrenaline, I want to know what this means.

birdwithteeth11 wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:22 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 7:20 pm Tossing mine last minute

[VOTE: Sokoth] aubergine


Oh, linki with Daisy LMAO

You come in close to the last minute and then move your vote between 3 different people very quickly. Why?

Because votes are changeable?

Well shit.

I'm just waiting for the forum to tell them they've maxed out on quotes. (Does the forum still do that? It used to only allow a certain number of embedded quotes per post.)

Ok, so I was asking Creature what he meant by this place not being MafiaUniverse 2.0 earlier. And I'm wondering what is your general mafia philosophy. Let me be more specific. In the last game I played here (I'm coming off a 3-4 year hiatus, I believe) players were talking about how they had changed/evolved their playstyles. Now they more looked for civ/town connections, rather than focusing on trying to nitpick scum tells. Then, using those civ/town connections to create a suspect list based on process of elimination.

I don't know if I'm explaining this well, as it's a new idea and new playstyle for me to consider and explore. However, saying that, I have found it helpful so far in this game, as I've been able to create a short list of players I feel pretty good about up till now. Obviously, no one is set in stone, but I do feel like it has given me a base from which to build, if that makes sense. And I'm curious if anyone else is approaching the game that way. If I am just a relic, just now coming around to how the game actually works now. LOL

I realize that may have sounded like the question was only for Creature. I didn't intend for it to sound that way. Input from others is welcome.

Ok, off to a graduation ceremony!

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 11:51 am I'm a little concerned about how easy of a lynch creature seems to be rn. The low level of conversation/lack of anyone objecting makes me wonder if he's a mislynch and the real scum are sitting back contented with it.

Working on catching up, but right now this is 100% my feeling, as I have Creature on my short list for town. Will continue catching up. I will not be voting him today, I just don't see it.

Oh, LOL caught up. I thought there were going to be more posts. I'm going to go back and iso LC.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

It's the best thing going that isn't a Creature vote.

I will not be here for EOD today, but I have several hours still. So hopefully we can stay organized.

(Also, Creature, if you really are mafia, I tip my hat to you. lol )

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 1:27 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 12:48 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

It's the best thing going that isn't a Creature vote.

I will not be here for EOD today, but I have several hours still. So hopefully we can stay organized.

(Also, Creature, if you really are mafia, I tip my hat to you. lol )

indi, did you see something in LC's ISO that convinced you to vote him?

I'm not married to my vote for LC. At this point, I feel like my most likely candidates would be between Mac, Wilgy and LC. Because of how the votes started going down from the beginning of this day phase.

I wanted to get a vote on the board, and of those 3, LC had the most votes so far. I'm open to further discussion for sure, and vote changing, up until the time I have to leave.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 2:13 pm Creature was my main suspect going into today because of the player salad catch. That made it easy, when Mac said please just vote for him, to vote for him. I agree at this point that there has been little opposition , sort of... Or you could say that there has been much opposition ... due to little opposition.

Are you still comfortable voting Creature? And you feel Mac is town?

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 2:18 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 2:13 pm Creature was my main suspect going into today because of the player salad catch. That made it easy, when Mac said please just vote for him, to vote for him. I agree at this point that there has been little opposition , sort of... Or you could say that there has been much opposition ... due to little opposition.

Do you trust Mac?

Or this ^^ lol Derp

Oreki wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 9:39 am I'm not finished with reading yet but looking at the thread, @birdwithteeth11 comes off quite aggressively and his behavior not really feel like town behavior, it's more comes off as a wolf for me. They way he ask players or point out thinks Kinda coming forcefully. I will read the entire thread and will provide my reads on my suspect along with birdwith.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:43 pm @Creature if there's anything that I've learned in my time on this planet it's that if you sus bwt day 1 and he's not bad, you are. Wanna flip that coin buddy?

So I just found this. Wilgy is calling out Creature for doing something that Oreki did Day 1... but Wilgy doesn't throw any suspicion Oreki's way for it. I don't like that at all.

Meh, stupid website.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

What say you, sir?

Dragomir wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 2:53 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 2:51 pm Meh, stupid website.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

What say you, sir?

What do you think about Rej?

After an ISO, I get the distinct feeling he's flying solo here - no scum teammates.



Linki - posting, then reading, like I do

Rej wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 3:04 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 2:23 pm @Rej what don't you like about Mac's play?

there is multiple things accumulating together.
1. the way Mac entered DP1 claimed himself and the others town, he then didn't contribute much for a wagon giving me the vibe of him not caring for the lynch train, following his jump on Creature on DP2 which quite was an obvious train I fell also for it but I didn't know what do back then
2. Drago obviously tunnels on me again which I like. We can bring back drago's statement of admitting chainsaw defending Mac. Am I dumb or just tunneling myself on Mac? Atleast I try to combine the clues.

Drago and Mac are scum.

Who else would you add to the team?


I'm thinking maybe more like Mac, Wilgy and Oreki now.


Linki~
Post, read, blah

Poo, still no consensus and I have to go. I understand it, since there are still a couple hours left, but still, poo.

I'm waffling between a Mac-Wilgy-Oreki team and an LC-Wilgy-Oreki team. I prefer leaving my vote on Wilgy, who I feel more sure about, rather than choosing between Mac and LC. However, my Wilgy vote accomplishes nothing by its lonesome... and Mac and LC both have votes already, so my vote would have a chance to accomplish something.

Meh. I'm going to take another couple minutes.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:18 pm @indiglo why Wilgy?

I posted my reasoning in the post directly before my vote post Iit was supposed to be all in 1 post, but, something freaked out and it posted before I could add my vote to the post):

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 2:48 pm

Oreki wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 9:39 am I'm not finished with reading yet but looking at the thread, @birdwithteeth11 comes off quite aggressively and his behavior not really feel like town behavior, it's more comes off as a wolf for me. They way he ask players or point out thinks Kinda coming forcefully. I will read the entire thread and will provide my reads on my suspect along with birdwith.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Mon May 20, 2019 8:43 pm @Creature if there's anything that I've learned in my time on this planet it's that if you sus bwt day 1 and he's not bad, you are. Wanna flip that coin buddy?

So I just found this. Wilgy is calling out Creature for doing something that Oreki did Day 1... but Wilgy doesn't throw any suspicion Oreki's way for it. I don't like that at all.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:33 pm

indiglo wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:01 pm Poo, still no consensus and I have to go. I understand it, since there are still a couple hours left, but still, poo.

I'm waffling between a Mac-Wilgy-Oreki team and an LC-Wilgy-Oreki team. I prefer leaving my vote on Wilgy, who I feel more sure about, rather than choosing between Mac and LC. However, my Wilgy vote accomplishes nothing by its lonesome... and Mac and LC both have votes already, so my vote would have a chance to accomplish something.

Meh. I'm going to take another couple minutes.

This is kind of lame. So your big idea is that the whole baddie team is voting for Creature for some reason. Are we supposed to take that seriously?

It doesn't matter to me how you take it. If I see connections between people, or things that don't feel town, I'm mentioning them. I don't expect you to like it, since your name is on the list.

juliets wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:49 pm yeah suspicious or not I think I'm going to vote Creature for similar reasons.

@juliets What were the similar reasons you mentioned here for voting Creature? I ask, because your post was directly after this post of Mata's:

Matahari wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:47 pm I tend to trust Mac so far. Maybe not 100%, but I don’t see a reason not to. He was quiet and town in one game, and more talkative and bad in the next. That’s very little to go on, but I’m a gut based player, and I have never played with six of these people. Mac has been steady on Creature, so I may vote him.
Some of Creature’s posts, I don’t even know what he means.

Also, sorry for multi-posting, I'm catching up and posting as I go to avoid a giant Wall-of-Text post.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 4:32 pm I don't particularly trust Mac. I mostly don't trust Mac though, I don't distrust him specifically for this game. Like, not any more than usual.

To me, in a game where infodumping isn't allowed, saying "Can you just vote there because I asked" carries a bit more gravitas, because it's about the level of strength one could use to make a "I alignment-checked Creature and he's bad" statement.

So, you're saying here that Mac happens to have an alignment checker role. On Night 1, he happened to alignment check Creature, and he happened to hit the jackpot and found out Creature was mafia? See, I think that's kind of lame.

I wouldn't normally think it was lame, because I generally think it's wise to posit any and all theories. But you said mine was lame, and yours is on the same level, so I'm calling it lame too.





Linki w/nutella, I'm thinking that may be the case as well. Which makes me sad.

Dragomir
nutella
Rej
Epignosis
birdwithteeth11
Sokoth
Mac
LongCon
Matahari
juliets
DrWilgy
Oreki

I have to do drive-by mafiaing today. I will be scarce all weekend, I have holiday weekend plans and I don't phone mafia. I'll try to at least get my votes in. Sorry to our hostess with the mostest.

[VOTE: Dr. Wilgy] aubergine

Again. Obvs.

I am currently relegated to mafiaing on my tablet, because I accidentally left my laptop behind. It sucks because it is tiny, very slow, and hard to type on, but regardless I will try to keep up with the thread. It will be harder for me to quote and respond to anything, so if there is anything pressing, please @ me and I will do my very best to reply. I won't have much time to be on here this weekend, but I will put a reminder on my phone so I won't miss the vote. I was freaking out just now that I was about to miss it. But apparently we are still on night phase. Thank goodness.

Mata, so sorry to hear about your loss! Take care of yourself and your family!!! ((hugs))

I am so sorry gang!! I was in the middle of replying 2 times and lost my signal. When my reminder to vote went off, I had absolutely no signal. I am so sorry and hope this goes through!!!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:13 pm I want everyone to try their best to ISO read Rej. I can't make heads or tails of him except to say that I almost feel like he is POE clamped as he appears in every combination I can muster.

He has found me incredibly hard to deal with, but I am still alive, that is an indicator that I am the patsy here. That the Mafia feel like they can defeat me personally. I feel like if Rej is in the Mafia team he is not in control. Nutella is in control.

Rej + Nutella + Sokoth/Sabie. I really feel that.

We really need BWT's presence to win this though.

@indiglo can you please help?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:10 pm Okay so at the end of yesterday Nutella was the leading wagon with my vote, Juliets vote and Rej's vote. Nutella was trying to drum up an Oreki counterwagon that we now know was a civ counterwagon. So 3-1.

Long Con, Oreki, Matahari, BWT and Indiglo all failed to vote.

If Nutella was a civilian in that scenario, nothing happens. The Mafia hang back and let her go... but here, a save occurred.

Is it possible that Rej and Sabie saved civilian Nutella?

No, I don't believe so. Rej had suspicion of Nutella and had his vote right there until right at the end, I cannot see rationally what Nutella did in thread to deserve a reprieve from a sane civilian Rej.

I think it's quite clear that Rej and Sabie blew in to save Nutella at the end of the day. I think they are the Mafia.

Even if Sabie and Rej just totally fucked up, the numbers lean towards them accidentally saving scum nutella rather than they being scum and saving civilian Nutella.

The ONLY alternative I can see here is that Matahari, Birdwithteeth and Indiglo have just stumblefucked their way into the luckiest flawless victory ever. I do not see it.

@Matahari @indiglo @birdwithteeth11 @juliets we need to lynch Nutella today. We cannot waiver from it either.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 3:04 am Can you tell me why you're not considering juliets?? Do you have any reason to think she's town? Because I don't.

Juliets/Rej/[Mata or Indi] is there any reason that wouldn't make sense to you?

juliets wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 11:04 am

indiglo wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 10:43 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:13 pm I want everyone to try their best to ISO read Rej. I can't make heads or tails of him except to say that I almost feel like he is POE clamped as he appears in every combination I can muster.

He has found me incredibly hard to deal with, but I am still alive, that is an indicator that I am the patsy here. That the Mafia feel like they can defeat me personally. I feel like if Rej is in the Mafia team he is not in control. Nutella is in control.

Rej + Nutella + Sokoth/Sabie. I really feel that.

We really need BWT's presence to win this though.

@indiglo can you please help?

Uh oh, this is not good. She can't talk. Can you still vote Indi?

nutella wrote: ↑Mon May 27, 2019 3:04 am Can you tell me why you're not considering juliets?? Do you have any reason to think she's town? Because I don't.

Juliets/Rej/[Mata or Indi] is there any reason that wouldn't make sense to you?

Thanks for the great game Daisy!

I really was sorry to have to be so absent over the holiday weekend, it was just jampacked with activities, and I really was out in the middle of nowhere half the time with no signal. I hated missing, because I was having such a good time playing.

I had a lot of fun! And really enjoyed being teamed up with Sokoth, Mata and Sabie!

Also, sorry nutella, and all the other mislynched and NKed people!!